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2881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: August 16, 2019, 10:06:47 AM
Indeed, most of the gamblers play gambling as a profession level and they have good earning from it, we could see casinos online or offline all have enough earning from gambling, they are deal with gambling as a profession, that's why they are successful. But it is not easy as we think, it is depend on luck, skills and money these all things make them in gambling professional. 
2882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Gold? Which one you would choose to invest for long term? Why ? on: August 14, 2019, 02:02:27 PM
We all have different  prospective regarding the investment , be it long term or short term.

 Bitcoin has been the most amazing invention and has given massive return of investment for those who joined from 2013. From low point in 2013 to 20k in 2017, it has gone from one end to another end. Right now today its trading at $10461 per bitcoin. The prediction is with just 21 million maximum supply it will reach 1 million bucks per coin one day.

Gold has been one of the most popular investment for centuries. Every country or government be it in the past or present always prefer gold reserve over their own currency even to prepare themselves for financial meltdown. Right now GOLD is being traded at $1425/oz.

So my question is which one you would chose for your investment ? Which one you would chose to outperform the other ? GOLD or BITCOIN? Please tell us with a reason why ?

Thanks everyone for taking part in this discussion.

Well, in my view, we should invest on this field which we have information and skill, May be gold is more profitable or not, but i have no experience in gold that's why i will choose Bitcoin. I know about bitcoin from 2015 and bitcoin is great investment for me, so definitely i will choose bitcoin.
I have only one reason that i have skill and knowledge of bitcoin investment and this investment will give you profit which you know about it very well. 
2883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Choose Lottery Instead Of Anything Else? on: August 14, 2019, 01:53:53 PM
I am not that big fan of lotteries because I know chances of winning in gambling for me would little better than those winning in the lotteries and better I can try my luck in the gambling where I enjoy the game and the atmosphere as well. And even if I do not win anything atelast I had enjoyed the moment in the casinos with some beverages and it is worth it than playing the lotteries for me.

The probability of winning from lottery is very low, but there are people who have won lottery on mathematical calculations. People who aren't with good knowledge about gambling used to try their luck through lotteries. Recently one of the biggest lottery win happened in UAE and the winning amount is $3.5+ million and the lottery ticket was bought on borrowed money.

He is too much lucky man who won millions in lottery on a borrow money. Surprising, actually he is one out of millions people, most of the people borrowed money and bought ticket but they failed and he only won.
But anyways, I am not vote for lottery, gambling games are more better than lottery, because in gambling at least we won little bit but we won, and in lottery most of the time we loss and only loss, and i see a huge people who are buying lotteries even they have no mathematical calculations how to win in lottery, they just believe on luck and in the end definitely they will lost their money.
2884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is your worst crypto casino experience? on: August 14, 2019, 01:41:04 PM
once I've deposited $50 in btc in one online crypto casino without doing proper research, I won like $150 and when I wanted to cash out I realized there is x50 wagger, since then I'm making sure to do proper research or look at reputable list of crypto casinos before depositing.

Yeah, it is bad experience, you have lost your $50 in just a small mistake, So it will be count in your experience, and next time you always search about gambling sites before betting.
I suggest you, you should play on bitcointalk gambling sites, these all are trust-able and have good reputations and even we have information about all gambling sites on bitcointalk then why we go to out site and play in other non-trust able gambling sites?   
2885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: if you want to win big...accept defeat on: August 14, 2019, 01:10:38 PM
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It is not good for us because even though we are failing and repeating the same thing will easily harm us in many cases. Accepting defeat in business is good but in gambling not suggestable because we don't know whether we are going to win for the rest of life through gambling.

It is actually the vice versa, and the whole point of this thread is to prevent gamblers from chasing their losses. Yes, we don't (and we can't) know whether we are going to win, so we must accept our defeat before starting playing and thus save ourselves from the otherwise possible big loss. Preventing a big loss is equal to big win, hence the title of this thread.

I agree with you, if we stop ourself to play continuity in betting that meant we have saved ourself from coming loss in gambling. Actually it is normal thing for you and me and also good gamblers, but it is hard to accept defeat for addicted gamblers, they can't accept their defeat in gambling, they fight till the end and in the end they always in loss. But in my thinking, accept defeat, it is better than you keep losing your whole money.   
2886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Dice - why do you play in a particular casino? on: August 14, 2019, 12:51:40 PM
Hello,

What are the factors that make you play in a particular casino? What are the most important things for you?

There's a lot of Dice sites out there; I was wondering recently what makes some of them much more successful than the others. What are your thoughts on that?

It is true, in this time every new and old casino has dice game, but only few casinos are successful than others, and i am also one of them who trust and play in a particular casinos. I see only one thing and that is reputation of the casino, and then i start to play dice here. Hence every gambler has different reason in his mind and that's why he choose the casino.   
2887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling habits that will cost you on: August 14, 2019, 12:41:07 PM
Seeing my winnings and still want to get another win and at the end end up losing all my gains to the gambling platform. This has happened several time to me and made me to regret why am not obeying my instinct. This action at a time cost me almost my savings for 3Months and still fill the pains till now.

That's why gambling habits that will cost you, but it is your big mistake that you have used your 3months saving, it is really painful that you did it. Over all gambling is risk and gambling is not a platform where you use your saving, but at least you have regret, so the next time you will not do it again.
We should learn in our every bet then we can save our-self from losses in gambling.
2888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't fell for FUD. Stand your ground bitcoiners! on: August 11, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
Exactly. FUD will always remain no matter what. There are many bitcoiners and die hard bitcoin followers who are standing on their grounds for bitcoin but not everyone has the ability to hold this coin for a long time. It needs determination and perseverance.

People who are involved in crypto for few years have seen bitcoin prices to move from 1000$ to 19800$ and then back to 3100$. And when it seems bitcoin will be buried, it has again gone up to 13000$. We know how bitcoin works and we all knows that bitcoin should never be sold on fud because fud is only to make the retail investor panic and the institutional investors to get more coins for cheap.
2889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Could Surpass $15,000 This Week: Max Keiser on: August 11, 2019, 06:00:30 PM
There is the mystery word. "COULD".

Another bullish prediction but in the end, it didn't even went to $13,000. I have enough of this bullish predictions already. I'll just wait for the movement of Bitcoin and will accumulate more base on how I read charts. This is another news hype for Bitcoin but unfortunately, it didn't happened. I think the investors matured a bit regarding news hypes.

You are right. There are always many people that called themselves expert people but they only make some guesses about bitcoin's price. I personally don't pay attention to such people and their predictions. 

Just see the predictions, most of them are saying that bitcoin will reach 14000$ - 15000$ but when it will happen ? No one is telling us this.
The bitcoin moved around 12,000$ and then went back to 11,390$.  There are very few real traders who can perfectly read the charts and predict precisely.
2890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man won 12 times in lottery on: August 11, 2019, 05:29:14 PM
I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.
You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.
There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.


There was nothing wrong with him. The fact is that he is one of the luckiest person who was able to win so many lotteries. Even i couldn't believe first time when i read all this.


I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.
You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.
There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.

He knows what's the odds are and by having enough knowledge on how to calculate the possible wwinning combinations he ended up winning 12 times. only him he can do this kind of thing because of his insane skills about mathematical combinations.

How can a mathematical calculations can determine the outcome of lottery. If this was true, then there are many mathematical guru's who could exploit this system of lottery and earn handsome money.
2891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is parlay an effective betting strategy? on: August 11, 2019, 05:17:21 PM
I think parlay is not for people who play it safe, if you do a parlay but the odds are still small, by playing safe like over 0.5 goals, then it's not a good thing. because the risk won't be equal to the profit you will get, at least I will parlay the odds around @5 and above, it will be better.
Parlay would be ideal for those who are risk takers and not those who play safe. Its the confidence that makes people bet parlays and if lucky win them. If your go for the higher number of bets in a parlay you are making it more prone to losses without any doubt. So a 5bet parlay can have a significant loss if you lose even just 2 of them.

Most gamblers like the risk though so they would without thinking anything more bet on those games that they feel confident about.

Non-parlay, parlay and martingale systems actually have a high risk. Anyone who starts gambling means they are ready to take risks, whatever system they use. And for me parlay are indeed quite ideal for gambling, but keep in mind that parlay will not be ideal with a high level because gambling will be more difficult than trading.

I myself usually use the parlay system up to level 2 only, when reaching level 2 I will return to the initial level and so on. Gambling is not a trade and the risk of gambling is far greater than trading so if you want to find it safe it is better to use a parlay system up to level 2 only.

Without using the strategies like parlay & martingale, the gambling is still risky, isn't ?
So there is no harm if we sometimes use and try these strategies. Being a gambler we should know these strategies, when and how to use them.
2892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 11, 2019, 05:00:17 PM
I've lost big. Over the last two or three years, I've lost 60K in total. It was almost my entire savings.
It started out with a large investment in bitcoin when the price was about 13K.
When the price dropped to below 4K, I lost all hope after waiting forever and gambled it on bitcoin gambling sites trying to triple it up, just to make my money back.
I lost that and a lot more. Never imagined it turning out this way. Especially after the price went back up.
I don't have a lot of close people to turn to nowadays. It's hard to get through each day feeling horrible. Just needed to reach out somewhere.
Sorry if this isn't the place.

Many people loss in gambling over time. There are infinite stories where people come in gambling with the hope of earning but leave it empty handed.You should have known by now that gambling is the most risky game.


Few tips which are shared many times like never go all in, never play/bet big amount in a single game even if you are sure about the game result.
We can never be sure upfront about the result. the only scenario what i can think of are the 1.01 payout bets, it wont make sense to not play big bets if you are aiming of the smaller gains. 

Even the odds of 1.01 are risky because sometimes even a 100% easy bet fails and in that case all our money is lost. There is no point in betting with only 1.01% percent profit.
2893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: August 11, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
When winning, I think everyone's experiencing that 'more greed' on themselves. Like we want to win more. Since it's fun. The feeling of winning is fun that's why we always wanted to win and that's when the greed comes. We don't get satisfied with 1 win and want to win even more, not thinking what if we lose.

When we started winning, we get even more greedy and this lack of control on our self is the main reason of our loss.


I think the main thing that people think of is the unresolved dreams that any person has about becoming rich, owning an island, cars and so on. All these are just dreams and need hard work to obtain. Nobody becomes rich by gambling - its the hard truth - rest of you might disagree but I know the truth. However the false belief is what makes people gamble more thinking they can win big but they are actually making the casino win by playing.

If you see it the other way, that casino owner is actually living that thug life. Grin

People unresolved cannot be fulfilled in a day and all of sudden by gambling. Only those people dream come true who are skillful and have patience.
People want to make one big bet and win it making a lot of profit, it does not happen in most of the time in the real world.
2894  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I lost my confidence... And fought to get it back. on: August 11, 2019, 04:21:27 PM
I once lost 26% of my portfolio in three short trades, in less than an hour and a half.

It was brutally crushing.
Weeks of hard work gone in the blink of an eye.

But I thought back to when I was just a little kid, learning how to ride a horse at summer camp.

More accurately I remember falling off said horse while trying to learn how to ride it.
And the camp counselor wiping the dirt (and maybe a tear, though I'd never admit it) off my face.

"If you don't get right back on that horse, you never will again." he told me.

And so I did.

But when I got back on the trading horse the next day, something was different. It didn't feel right.
It felt like the charts I was so used to watching, were in a foreign language.

The letters were still the same, but I couldn't read them anymore. Whatever I used to see, whatever strategy I had been using before, it didn't fit.

Something was missing.

I floundered, and I panicked.

Luckily, a good friend and mentor was there to catch me.
Thanks to their wisdom, it became clear to me - there was indeed something missing.

My confidence.

Confidence in my skill, confidence in my ability to control my emotions, confidence in my analysis.
Without that, there was no way that crypto could the salvation I so desperately longed for.

And so I set out to rebuild that confidence, brick by brick.
For the next 30 days, I traded only a completely insignificant amount of money and I documented every last detail.

That helped me control my despair while validating the effectiveness of my strategy.

After rediscovering my groove in those 30 days, I slowly ramped back up to trading real money.

In the end, learning from that experience proved far more valuable than the short term damage to my portfolio.

Have you ever had to experience something extreme to overcome a mental weakness?




This is what exactly happens with new traders who try to make good trades without getting enough knowledge and lose their money.
Once we get the knowledge and experience in trading, we can not only recover our loses but same time we may be in profit also.
2895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling habits that will cost you on: August 10, 2019, 06:34:11 PM
For me, the worst habit is trying to gain what you lost
Me: this time I'll recover all my lost money with this single bet  Grin
Much worse when you deal with it with too much aggressiveness as you can't control the possible outcome of your bets, this kind of attitude always resulting into a misjudgement instead of chilling and enjoying your stay it will stress you up after realizing that you again loses your money and burned your bankroll.
It just means that the person is not yet in full control of his emotion and therefore there is a possibility that he/she will lose his temper while in the middle of the game and would end up losing a lot more of his/her bankroll. That's why never ever chase your losses in a day, stay your cool and call it a day.

We cannot recover our lose on the same day. Many people try to chase the loss instantly and this way they lose more. This happen because of our greediness and lack of temperament. If we have control over our mind, while playing gambling, we can very easily avoid big losses.
2896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: August 10, 2019, 06:26:48 PM
It's possible that some skill based gamblers make money from gambling. But the number of this gamblers are likely very few.
I have heard of skilled gamers earning handsomely and consistently from video game gambling/competition.  
There are also professional poker players who likely make a living from competitive poker.

Many people do not play gambling for fun only, they take it seriously and real way to make money. I personally know few gamblers who are betting offline on sports  and getting good income.
2897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man won 12 times in lottery on: August 07, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.
Did you forget to read the question mark at last?

I am just asking the same thing you were asked.
If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.
So cheating is possible if there is some insiders.

Oh i really forget to see it, Actually, i was so surprised on it that anyone could think like it. That someone win the lottery and police arrest him? 
2898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man won 12 times in lottery on: August 05, 2019, 12:52:42 PM
If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.
2899  Other / Off-topic / Re: Most influental person in your life? on: July 09, 2019, 11:15:00 AM
Who is the person that changed your life for the better?

As far my life is concerned, the person who changed my life is Bruce Lee.



Bruce Lee was more then just a martial artists. He doesn't get enough credit as a spiritual teacher for personal development. He used martial arts and meditation to get to know himself. He trained his body, he disciplined his mind and he expressed his soul. He was an artist of life.

It is just astonishing what he could accomplish in the short period of time he was on this planet !

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot.

Water can flow and it can crash. Be water my friend

No doubt about him, Bruce lee he was great spiritual teacher in martial arts. But his end of his life was not good, I feel sad whenever i see him. It meant we can do everything in our life, but our life is not in our hand.
About myself, only one man who is the most influential in my life, i don't want to tell his name, but he guide us how to live a good life and what will happened in our life after die.
2900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: STEP TO TAKE WHEN PAYMENT IS BEEN DELAYED BY AN ONLINE CASINO on: July 09, 2019, 06:59:47 AM
I played on casino site some days back and won a  certain amount of money, i was expecting to cash out my money instantly because one of the things that lured me to the site was the fact they offer instant payment. Its been days now and am yet to get my money. Please help what can i do in this case because i am becoming impatient
PS i forgot to add that they are requesting i fill KYC form and i didn't see this before i started playing.

Can you mention the name of this casino? and it is wrong with you if they are doing late your payment. That's why we discuss the scam or trusted casino. But you should contact the senior of this casino, may be he help you. Actually, most of the reasons will be here, firstly you won a big amount, and may be the casino has some problem to transfer your money, and the least is casino don't want to pay you. So i suggest you, don't give up try to come back your money and the next time play only famous casinos.   
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