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28881  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the meaning of life and the long-term merits of technologic improvement on: August 01, 2016, 01:50:57 AM
  Since god (allegedly) created all of us, knowing very well what we would do and believe (the good book say he is omniscient, knows everything: Psalm 139:16 "Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be"), he created us as we are.
But you DO have a choice to repent and follow God, right now. So it is you who are guilty if you won't change.



   When god (allegedly) created humankind, he already knew who would be the ancestors of Hitler and knew that Hitler would born on 20 April 1889 and do all the things he did.
God gave Hitler and his parents and those who worked with him the choice to be on God's side or against him, but just like you they made the wrong choice. They don't have a choice any longer, but you still do.



   Any insignificant change on the current of events would avoid the existence of Hitler (a few seconds could be the difference that would allow a brother to be born created by a different spermatozoid and not Hitler).

   But god decided to create his ancestors exactly the way that allowed Hitler to be born.

   So in the end, god planed and created Hitler with full conscience about whom he was creating (see also Marshall Brain, http://godisimaginary.com/i6.htm).
God gave the ability to choose, and mankind chose... this way or that. Now that you understand this, are you going to continue to make the wrong choice?



   He is guilty for everything Hitler did as an individual is guilty for creating a chain of events with the clear conscience that those events will necessarily provoke a catastrophe or even any damage.


God sent Jesus, the Son of God, as God and man, to take the punishment for all the bad things mankind did. Jesus, the God/man, did this when He died on the cross.

In other words, the only reason God was guilty, was that He took on the guilt when He was in the form of Jesus... in the form of both God and man. Being God, after He paid for the wrongs of mankind, He went the next step. What is the next step? The next step is this.

God is creating a New Universe for people who decide to be on His side to be moved into. After He moves them there, He will destroy this universe along with all the people who are against Him, in the smelting pot of the Lake of Fire. Once this universe is destroyed, it will not be remembered or brought to mind, because even the history of it, and the time of it will be made to be completely nonexistent.

Blame God in your own mind if you like. But He is showing you how you and mankind in general are the ones to be blamed... and how He is erasing all the evil completely in such a way that it will never have been... by removing even all of the dimensions of the universe when He destroys it all in the Lake of Fire.

Your choice is yours. God is holding it open for you... except, of course, if you have died before you have a chance to read this.

Cool
28882  Other / Off-topic / Re: #Black holes Matter on: July 31, 2016, 03:41:44 PM
Stars really are alive. The Bible says that they are the angels.    Cool

What part of the bible says that?

Revelation 1:20, Jesus speaking to John:
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The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Check out Revelation 12:4a where it talks about the tail of the dragon (Satan) sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky. Church scholars interpret this to mean that Satan gained his fallen-angel, demon horde from here. So, the stars are angels:
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His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.

You can check this for yourself at https://www.biblegateway.com/.

You might Google "angels are stars Bible."

Cool
28883  Other / Politics & Society / Martial Law Exercise? Feds Going Door-To-Door In Florida Asking For Urine Sample on: July 31, 2016, 03:29:09 PM
Martial Law Exercise?
Feds Going Door-To-Door In Florida
Asking For Urine Samples
Amid Zika Outbreak






Officials have said that at least four people in Florida have contracted the Zika virus and warn that the virus now appears to be spreading domestically either through contact with mosquitoes or direct human-to-human transmission. Until recently, the virus only appeared in individuals infected outside of the United States, primarily in South America.

In an alarming development, according to CNN, federal, state and local officials have been deployed to canvas neighborhoods in Florida. The stated purpose is to ask questions, request urine samples and determine the spread of the virus.

Officials believe the local transmission is confined to a small area north of downtown Miami within a single ZIP code. However, local, state and federal health officials are continuing their investigation, which includes going door-to-door to ask residents for urine samples and other information in an effort to determine how many people may be infected. Additional cases are anticipated.

As noted by Erin Elizabeth of HealthNutNews.com it is not clear whether officials are asking or "demanding" these samples.

Folks, you read this correctly. The feds and other local authorities are going DOOR TO DOOR to private residences asking (demanding?) urine samples.

What if a resident does not comply?  What else are they testing for? Would you comply?

I can tell you right now I am not giving any local or federal agent my urine. If arrest were the alternative then let them arrest me. I have nothing to hide, but no way would I submit to such a test if the feds showed up at my door. Some experts I'm speaking with are saying they're asking for urine under the guise of "Zika virus" when it is, in fact, for something much more sinister. This is very disturbing to me.


Feds & state/local authorities
going door to door collecting urine samples
checking for Zika Virus


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqIxqXMjwfA



Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/martial-law-exercise-feds-are-going-door-to-door-in-florida-asking-for-urine-samples-amid-zika-outbreak_07302016.


The nine most terrifying words in the English language are “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.”


Cool
28884  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trumps Russia ties threaten national security? on: July 31, 2016, 03:19:51 PM
National security is a far bigger threat to Americans than Trump or Russia could ever think of being. Just look at what cops are doing to people. And look at DHS border stops 100 miles inland. And look at all the horrors of the TSA. And the IRS isn't any better; people have simply become used to it so they don't squeak as much when the IRS slits their throat.

Cool
28885  Other / Politics & Society / Re: laughing at all on: July 31, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Cat mouse puts a gun in the head and then asked:
- 1 + 1 = much?
- Yes! = 2 sir!
'Pang', cat blowing smoke guns: You already know too much.
Still that question, mice 2nd thoughts and trembling replied:
- Yes! I do not know sir!
'Pang', cat back blowing smoke: Type ignorant like you should not live.
3rd to rats, cats still ask that question. This child thought and replied:
- Know, without knowing why, why?
'Pang' Danger !: like you, the more have to die.
4th mouse continued, was that question, I already answered this thought:
- Answer him killed, did not answer him killed, he killed the wrong answer, the correct answer also kill, then you know what to do?
'Pang' You must die because you !: say too much.
Mouse to the end, still the old question, this figure brisk reply:
- Yes sir! With such tough questions, then only the new super-high as he answers correctly sir!
Cat amused and said: You are, according to me!
....
Lives in life ...
Smart also died, ignorance and death, tricks and death, many also died reasoning. Only flattery is alive. Kaka ...


Yawn.

'Pang' first time. Gun backfired and cat dreamed the rest as he was dying.

 Grin
28886  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 10:26:59 PM
Towards saving ourselves...


Solar cell sucks up CO2 and spits burnable fuel out the other side





Researchers have now edged closer toward this dream technology, developing what they describe as a game-changing solar cell that produces hydrocarbon fuels in the lab, with potential applications ranging from large-scale uses on Earth to providing power on Mars.

The prospect of using sunlight to power our energy-intensive lifestyles has enough merit on its own, but what if we could suck carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere while we're at it? This two-pronged environmental panacea has inspired scientists eyeing a greener future, with artificial leaves, hybrid energy systems and moth-inspired photoelectrochemical cells just a few examples of how we are progressing toward this goal.

Scientists at Chicago's University of Illinois have been working with new kinds of chemicals with new kinds of properties to take these efforts to the next level. The key, they say, is to discover a new type of catalyst that can turn atmospheric CO2 into burnable fuels in an efficient and inexpensive way.


Read more at http://www.gizmag.com/solar-cell-co2-burnable-fuel/44645/.


Cool
28887  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 10:21:26 PM
Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?
NO, I'm saying that I dont want people to be pension slaves, and to pay into this pension ponzi scheme.

Its an evil thing to do with the old people.


What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?


If the pension system is eliminated, along with all other tax burden and regulations, we will have more money to invest into green technology.

Not to mention the elimination of welfare stops population growth, and there would be less polluters.

If all of our pollution stopped this instant, we might only save ourselves. It wouldn't save or destroy the planet.

Cool
28888  Other / Off-topic / Re: #Black holes Matter on: July 30, 2016, 10:13:42 PM
Stars really are alive. The Bible says that they are the angels.    Cool
28889  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 30, 2016, 10:12:13 PM
When you look outside of the window of a plane, if you are high enough, you can see the curvature of the Earth. Having seen this first hand, I think it justifies the roundness of the Earth without relying on third-party info.

There is no curvature, so don't know what exactly did you saw.

Can you provide us proof or evidence that can back up your claim?

Like this:
Commercial Airliner USA LAX to Frankfurt Germany 5,800 mile trip NO CURVATURE  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB5YwfUcdWI

LAX to PHX Where is the Curvaturehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nbg00TJqJo

There is also footage from concorde, no curvature, high altitude balloons, no curvature. Actually tons of them, all without curvature.

There are a reasonable number of videos and stills that show the curvature of the earth from high altitude. Many are listed right in this thread. Why do you want a repeat?

Cool
28890  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 30, 2016, 10:10:35 PM
http://hoax.trendolizer.com/2016/07/nasa-jupiter-hoax---nasa-caught-faking-space-again.html



I'm not a flat-Earther, but I questioned the recent pics when they first came in, now confirmed. Odd!

explained here https://m.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/4sj1fr/whats_up_with_jupiter/            for those who cant be bothered to look. the aurora image was taken in UV spectrum and to show scale nasa put it on top of a photo taken in visible light spectrum  


read the caption at the bottom of this photo https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1613a/

Fakery can not be confirmed or explained as truth, no matter how hard you try or desire in your mind.

Now go and search Nasa live earth footage, and then compare their ridiculous cgi footage to real balloon one. Search on YouTube:flat earth balloon footage. Come here and tell me if you see a ball, satellites, rotating, spinning and wobbling ball...crap.
Nasa have been exposed with fake moon landings, bubbles in space, transparent fraud astro-nots and many more fakes. Their fairy-tale of "universe" is to destroy the reality of a Creator and make humans feel
like random accidentally, small and unimportant specks of dust.

You can't fly with no air. And air is diluted water. Earth was formed out of water. You are living in created environment called plane earth under the dome with water below and above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUFvtVdYkqI




The water canopy that formerly covered the earth, was destroyed in the Great Flood of Noah's day. This was the starting time of the formation of C-14 in the atmosphere, because there was no water canopy protecting the earth from cosmic radiation anymore. The radiation from outer space gradually filled the earth, corrupting the DNA of people, so that people gradually had more and more genetic anomalies in their bodies. This reduce their age from hundreds of years per person to that which we see today.

The earth is not flat and never was. The stars are great monsters off in distant space, similar to what cosmologists suggest.

Cool

Yet again you are completely misguided.
The firmament is solid and can't be destroyed by any natural force. This verse is after the flood, can you read, can you cope?
Psa 148:3,4  Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light. Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
 
Stupid nasa was thinking that they will be able to destroy the firmament in operation fishbowl, firing nuclear missiles up to 480miles high. It is all documented you can learn for yourself.
If nasa would read the Creator's manual, they could learn that the dome can not be destroyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkujMTSFr9o




The people of the earth before the telescope didn't really understand outer space. Where do the heavens start? Don't they start at the ground and spread upwards? Because of this, the heavens can be interpreted in the minds of the ancient peoples to fit everything above the ground. Just because they didn't know that the heavens extends beyond the air, doesn't mean that it doesn't. The waters above the air heavens is what they were thinking about, not the waters above the outer space heavens. However, spectroscopy of the heavens shows us that there is water at the far distant reaches of outer space.

Cool

To much babbling in vain is coming from your mouth. Read your Bible properly to avoid that.

Oh really, smart guy. People of the earth didn't know... You silly little...whatever you are. The prophets and apostles did know and understand very well. The Word of God is Truth, not your deceptive imagination how things should be.


And they knew that the earth was globular if they knew anything.    Cool

EDIT: Look. Go with your own flow. I am the smart guy, right? So, simply believe me.    Cheesy
28891  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 10:07:05 PM

Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.

So you think old people can't work? I'm not saying to start lifting weight, but there are lots of comfortable jobs for old people too.
Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?



Besides the pension system is a ponzi scheme and scam, there have been proven studies that people who don't have a goal in life die 20-30 years earlier.

The pension system makes you goal-less, domesticated slave that watches TV all day. It is a pretty evil thing to do with old people.

If they would start working and not going to pension, they would live 20-30 years more and would be much healtier.

I would not have to pay for forced pension scam, and the old people would be happy and healthy. WIN-WIN

What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?

Cool
28892  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Electric Universe theory on: July 30, 2016, 10:03:22 PM
To all you mathematicians take 6 minutes to check out this video.

Elegant Math and Failed Theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRFCNCMANws



What is the cause of the gravitational lense effect if there is no space time topology?

Exposing the Myth of Gravitational Lensing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePQdJNVF9g

Please point me to just one gravitational lens that was not achromatic.

The nobel prize with some million dollars are waiting.

Btw. You could also try to tell me what the size of the lens for refraction would be for example our sun.

^^^ He should answer the question of course, but you have to show that there even is a gravitational lens, now that we have seen that it is simple aberration of light through particles near a star or other object.

Cool

I bolded what is important to answer your post.
The material that is needed for the refraction doesnt exist.

If we take our sun for example and do some calculations then the thickness of the lens has to be around 20.000 km and more of water or air. Or some other material with 700.000 km thickness.

It just doesnt work.

Personally, I am not into this enough to answer your points. But the people in the videos seem to think that the material is there. Didn't they say that it exists in the form of nutrinos?

Cool
28893  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 09:59:12 PM

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Cool

Ok if I get out, but what about the other people. I have to pay for their socialized healthcare if they get lungh problems.... All cities should start to become clean and more green.

I would not even mind if they would start banning cars, at least tons of accidents and pollution would be avoided.

The problem with car accidents is that its never the perpetrator that dies but the innocent pedestrian that is hit by them.

What about the volcanoes? What can you do against those? That seems a natural phenomena. Earth is an active system, and there is a giant metal ball in the middle that moves the molten lava and the pressure can come out in any volcanoe. There are even volcanoes starting to become active that wasnt active for thousands of years.

That's the point. We aren't strong enough as a people to save the earth or not. We don't even really understand how ecology operates yet. If we did, the weatherman would be way more accurate.

Cool
28894  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 30, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
^^^ Not to worry. Trump can't do most of what he is proposing. The people won't let him once they figure out what it really means.

The best benefit that Trump would be giving us is, he is making the one-worlders to have to switch their strategy. If Trump gets in, they will have to change things enough that it could set their plans back a couple of decades, and give us a little bit of a breather before they take over.

In the end, Trump will be a benefit, not by the stuff that he does, but by upsetting the one-worlder apple cart, so to speak.

Cool
28895  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 09:42:23 PM

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

Cool

They will be, factories are already automated (except for poor countries with slave labour).

Most jobs are in supermarkets, they will be automated too, as new Japanese robots become widespread in supermarkets.

We will see a job loss rate of 80-90% in the next 10-15 years, so they will either be on welfare or do some kind of work online.

Even stuff like basic income is getting traction. I would prefer if they would just eliminate income taxes and deregulate commerce to get back some jobs.
Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.



i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Cool

Dont build cities near volcanoes. Most pollution is done from cars in the cities.

My neighbors are literally coughing like horses ,and they all have lungh problems. There is car dust on my window, I have to clean it every 2-3 days, because of the fucking cars. If I dont clean it every 2-3 days my window literally gets gray from the dust,and I cant see outside.

What do you think about that?

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Cool
28896  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Electric Universe theory on: July 30, 2016, 09:35:46 PM
^^^ He should answer the question of course, but you have to show that there even is a gravitational lens, now that we have seen that it is simple aberration of light through particles near a star or other object.

Cool
28897  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: July 30, 2016, 09:27:08 PM
Though I was not a citizen of USA, I feel Hilary Clinton is trust worthy than Trump. Trump as a billionaire have made himself high, Hilary Clinton have helped more get life due to various social issues she headed. Possibly if she have not did anything good now she could have been equal to trump as a billionaire.
Every period the presidential candidates promise paradise. Debt is still rising, war on terror, war on drugs is still alive, financial crisis still unsolved. I am worried about the future  Sad

This is because the people are ignorant of the way to live. In common law which is above and stronger than Constitutional law in America, the people could make the whole American government obsolete by using common law to cancel out most Constitutional law.

Here is one way you can start. All court cases are required to have some kind of harm or damage having been done to even make a case. If there is no harm or damage, there is no case. But if the defendant doesn't require the harm or damage to be shown, he loses to government.

One of the best examples of this is traffic. If you are driving over the speed limit, and a cop stops you and gives you a ticket, there is no case in court until someone comes forward and show how he was harmed or damaged. Stick to your requirement of harm or damage being shown. They can't even ask you to plead until they have an injured person or damaged property. And when they can't find any, you can file a claim for false arrest, false complaint, and get out of them the same money they would have gotten out of you (not easy, but doable).

Think of all the people in jail or prison when nobody was hurt. All they were doing was smoking a joint. They didn't hurt anyone. But their attorney screwed them by not requiring that the harmed person appear in court. If they are a friend of yours, get the case retried, and get them out of prison. See http://voidjudgments.com/.

Cool
28898  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Electric Universe theory on: July 30, 2016, 08:54:57 PM
These experiments have the potential to generate microscopic black holes. They have very short lifespan and not enough to cause significant damage around.

Please no black holes, I dont want the Earth to be sucked in Cheesy

Besides the evaporation of a microscopic black hole causes a blast that is stronger than 10,000 nukes, so no black holes please!

lol I'm not the one doing this.
I think these guys know what they are doing anyway. Wink

I'm not so sure about that, i think the Cern guys are crazy and reckless, they should setup their dangerous experiments on the Moon or Mars, not in the middle of Europe, where anything could go wrong.

Besides, nobody knows that the Cern guys aren't creating the particles rather than simply finding them.

Cool
28899  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 08:53:27 PM
i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Cool
28900  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 30, 2016, 08:51:44 PM

So far, online doesn't build much of anything in reality. Online doesn't drive farm tractors, milk cows, harvest grain. It doesn't build cars, run factories, or manufacture the things we need and use in life. It doesn't drill for oil and then refine the oil.

Certainly computers are part of all these things, a little. But by the time that the things of life can be made mechanically, where we can all work at it over the Internet, the computers will be able to handle the whole process, and nobody will need us for anything online.

Of course, if we are not needed, we won't make money. If we don't make money, we won't buy products and services. If we don't buy, we won't need manufacturing. If we don't need manufacturing, the computers are shut down. We all go back to making things by hand, gardening for food, and moving out of the big cities to do it.

What? Okay, let's skip the online part, and move out of the cities without all that silly computerized manufacturing stuff being done in the first place. It's a waste of time.

Cool

Of course those jobs would either be done by robots or there will be 1-2% of the people who would do it.

I think 99% of the people will work online, in either web development, art, or some kind of commerce.

Most of the jobs are already being replaced by robots.

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

Cool
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