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28941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 01:18:45 PM
Right! And how do we stop all the torture of the microbes that all the immune systems in the world, be they plant, animal, or human immune systems, are torturing?

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28942  Other / Politics & Society / Bill Clinton's Fanciful Speech About Hillary Shows Shared Sociopathy on: July 29, 2016, 01:16:02 PM
Bill Clinton's Fanciful Speech About Hillary Shows Shared Sociopathy





The surprising secret to Bill and Hillary Clinton's marriage … Tuesday night, Bill Clinton took the stage at the Democratic National Convention to make the case for another Clinton: the former U.S. Secretary of State– and his former First Lady — Hillary Clinton, as the next President of the United States …  It was powerful, convincing and heartfelt. But it was more than just a speech to satisfy an agenda; far more than a means to a political end. Loving, respectful, proud, and very human, his speech spoke volumes not only about his wife, the candidate, but, more notably, about the modern marriage ideal. –CNN

Bill Clinton's speech about Hillary Clinton was long lie, according to Dick Morris, the famous Clinton advisor who is now strongly anti-Clinton.

In a video on his website, DickMorris.com, he addresses the speech and rebuts it.

The rebuttal itself was interesting but gave rise to another question entirely.

Why would Bill Clinton present a false version of Hillary Clinton on such a prominent stage? Making so many apparently, fallacious statements is surely a risky business.

Of course, within the moment, the speech was a big hit. It presented Hillary as a loving wife and mother who'd spent her entire life helping people.

As we've pointed out in numerous past articles (see one HERE), Clinton is actually a candidate of the military-industrial complex and a proponent of the impending technocratic corporatism that is to be installed globally.

But Bill Clinton is determined to emphasize her "helping" side.

At one point, speaking of attempts to get her to marry him, he says:

So the second time I tried a different tack. I said I really want you to marry me, but you shouldn't do it. (LAUGHTER) And she smiled and looked at me, like, what is this boy up to?

She said that is not a very good sales pitch. I said I know, but it's true. And I meant it, it was true.

I said I know most of the young Democrats our age who want to go into politics, they mean well and they speak well, but none of them is as good as you are at actually doing things to make positive changes in people's lives.


Read more at http://www.thedailybell.com/uncategorized/bill-clintons-fanciful-speech-about-hillary-shows-shared-sociopathy/.


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28943  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 29, 2016, 12:41:45 PM
We individuals even government officials, all of us must solve it. We are the cause why is the earth is dying, look at the country of China. They have a billion people there and still rapidly growing, their environment is now destroyed. We humans must discipline ourselves. A simple throwing your trash into a correct trashcan is easy to do. Do not smoke and continue planting trees, and stop creating nuclear plants and any materials related in radiation. Our creator created us and this planet, let's not destroy our planet so that that we do not destroy ourselves.

You are anti-nuclear power and purport to be the Planet Savior?
Nope, I will not claim that I am a Planet Savior, I must admit too that I did something to our planet even it is a little damage, but still its a damage. Do you think that nuclear power will not destroy our world?
Nuclear power is a good thing.  Period.  The planet is not dying, it is doing quite well. 
I hope you know what you are saying that the planet is not dying. For you information, world leaders discussed about the issue of global warming and climate change in Paris Climate Deal. Did you felt the El Niño? This year, March is the hottest in modern history and 2016 is shaping up as a record-breaking year for rising global temperatures. Our planet can die in any second, there are so many humans who were using and abusing the resources of our planet plus animals are rapidly becoming an instinct animals.

The planet won't die. Jesus will return, will raise all the dead to life, will judge everyone according to their faith in Him, will take the believers home to Himself in the New Universe, will destroy this universe in the lake of fire.

Don't worry. Up until He returns, farming, getting married, and everything else, both good and bad, will continue.

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28944  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
Lol you all make me laugh a lot.
Funny how so many people are offended by seeing Muslims signing petitions to ban oktobeerfest in Germany,  you all find that disgusting that they dare asking the end of this "cultural activity" even if they live in Germany.  But here what are you doing? Asking the end of a cultural festival, same way Muslims do. You just try to impose your culture. Nothing else.

If you can't see the difference between those two petitions then i suggest you seek immediate mental help.   No matter what culture your from the torture of animals should not be tolerated.  I understand that the western world Eat pigs for example which are as intelligent as dogs but there are laws in place to treat these animals as well as possible.  Dogs and cats in china and korea are literally boiled alive and tortured while the other animals watch because it's Beleived the more scared the animal is when it dies the better the meat is.  I hope anyone who partakes in these things meets a fate worse than those animals had to endure.

Ah! Laughing again!
So you consider animal torture shouldn't be tolerated in any culture? Well I don't see why, there is no reason animal suffering can't be part of a culture. But I could answer you vegetal suffering shouldn't be tolerated, what are you going to do about that in your barbaric culture?  XD
After all, it has been proven that all vegetals produce the same signals than animals when they're torn, cooked or cut. So they do suffer, and you're still doing it.

3 centuries ago it was considered as perfectly normal to do whatever you wanted to animals. There no REASON behind the "don't hurt animals" trend, it's just an evolution of mentalities. So why your mentality should be considered as better than the Asian ones?

Do you mean vegetables?  Are you a half wit or are you just arguing for the sake of it?  You obviously struggle with day to day life if you compare a petition to do with drinking beer and slaughtering animals as similar and you also considor dogs and cats to be the same as a vegetable.

And 3 centuries ago it was considored normal to do whatever you wanted to fellow humans.  I'm sure you would be one of the first to throw someone in the cooking pot,  i mean why not?  Humans are the same as vegetables as well are they not?

I forgot about the vegetables. You should read The Secret Life of Plants, by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Plants.

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28945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 12:32:40 PM
Lol you all make me laugh a lot.
Funny how so many people are offended by seeing Muslims signing petitions to ban oktobeerfest in Germany,  you all find that disgusting that they dare asking the end of this "cultural activity" even if they live in Germany.  But here what are you doing? Asking the end of a cultural festival, same way Muslims do. You just try to impose your culture. Nothing else.

If you can't see the difference between those two petitions then i suggest you seek immediate mental help.   No matter what culture your from the torture of animals should not be tolerated.  I understand that the western world Eat pigs for example which are as intelligent as dogs but there are laws in place to treat these animals as well as possible.  Dogs and cats in china and korea are literally boiled alive and tortured while the other animals watch because it's Beleived the more scared the animal is when it dies the better the meat is.  I hope anyone who partakes in these things meets a fate worse than those animals had to endure.

No more boil-em lobster alive.    Cool

Im not going to argue the case on a lobsters intelligence and i wouldn't Eat a lobster anyway because i don't think they should be boiled alive but dogs and cats are far more intelligent than lobsters and hace a wide range of emotions.  If your doing to eat something because you need to in order to survive at least have the decency to kill it as quickly as possible.


I agree... although nobody knows the difference in strength of lobster emotion compared with cat/dog emotion.

However, I agree that we should make "executions" as painless as possible. I think we should start a lobby for people who are executed for crimes, to be put to sleep by some simple sleep-drug injection, and then have their head chopped off in the hundredth of a second that it takes a guillotine to do this.

However, maybe they do that already - the sleep-drug part - because I get awful tired after having a hamburger.

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EDIT: With butchered cattle, I mean. Roll Eyes
28946  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 12:20:49 PM
Lol you all make me laugh a lot.
Funny how so many people are offended by seeing Muslims signing petitions to ban oktobeerfest in Germany,  you all find that disgusting that they dare asking the end of this "cultural activity" even if they live in Germany.  But here what are you doing? Asking the end of a cultural festival, same way Muslims do. You just try to impose your culture. Nothing else.

If you can't see the difference between those two petitions then i suggest you seek immediate mental help.   No matter what culture your from the torture of animals should not be tolerated.  I understand that the western world Eat pigs for example which are as intelligent as dogs but there are laws in place to treat these animals as well as possible.  Dogs and cats in china and korea are literally boiled alive and tortured while the other animals watch because it's Beleived the more scared the animal is when it dies the better the meat is.  I hope anyone who partakes in these things meets a fate worse than those animals had to endure.

No more boil-em lobster alive.    Cool
28947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
Lol you all make me laugh a lot.
Funny how so many people are offended by seeing Muslims signing petitions to ban oktobeerfest in Germany,  you all find that disgusting that they dare asking the end of this "cultural activity" even if they live in Germany.  But here what are you doing? Asking the end of a cultural festival, same way Muslims do. You just try to impose your culture. Nothing else.

From Snopes, at http://www.snopes.com/ban-oktoberfest-petition/:
While the petition was "real" in the sense that someone actually posted it to Change.org, it was not written by "Muslim refugees" in Germany as implied by some publications. The author of the petition, Morad Almuradi, listed his location as The Netherlands: http://m.snopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/netherlands.jpg

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Well I didn't even know.
Anyway I didn't understand why this petition made so much noise. As long as they just ask for the removal of something they don't like, what's wrong with it? If they're only "a few that should accept the culture" the petition won't have any effect so why bothering?

And it's the same here, people are actually asking south Korea to change its culture because it offends you? Just LOL

The mental and emotional torture of Islamites is done by themselves to themselves.
The animals are feeling the pain for real.

However, while it is the way of the Western world to be a bit more "feeling" towards the animals they kill and eat, the SE Asians often don't care about the torture.

In the end, our property is ours, their property is theirs, and Muslim property belongs to Muslims. The major difference between the Muslim thing and our animal cruelty thing is, Islam is trying to take over the world through any little thing they can use. We simply would stop animal cruelty.

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28948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Electric Universe theory on: July 29, 2016, 12:11:15 PM
I'm sorry ... But why this topic has been created? You say that you will not tolerate contradictory statements. But I can not be silent. If you do not have resulted articulate arguments in support of his theory. You can also say that the earth is flat. And the fact that the earth is flat, in one of the topics, some have argued, and even provide links to resources where there is evidence of their words. Personally, my opinion is that all these statements complete nonsense.

You must be one of the obstinate, standard cosmologists... one who is so greatly against finding anything new, that you won't even tolerate new ideas that might upset your dogmatic, "religious," scientific thinking.

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28949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Electric Universe theory on: July 29, 2016, 12:09:02 PM
Well for one even if this theory was proven to be true, it wouldn't be a lot of use to us right now simply because it would be next to impossible to measure electricity accurately in objects that are light years away. Gas and light are observable. Perhaps with newer technology, they will at some point revisit this theory.

One of the major points in electric universe is that "red shift," which is interpreted by cosmologists to be produced by stars at great distances moving away from us rapidly, is being interpreted incorrectly by standard cosmologists. Electric universe info shows that the "red" is simply a quality of stars that are near other stars, while exchanging materials between the two through electric plasmas. This is similar to what happens in welding.

The whole electric plasma idea shows us that stars may not be as far away as we think. In addition, being electric in nature, with electric plasma exchanges going on throughout the universe, might afford us electric "levitation" methods for traveling the plasmas to the stars, methods that are much simpler than all the standard propulsion theories and ideas out there today, and far less dangerous.

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28950  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 11:58:51 AM
Lol you all make me laugh a lot.
Funny how so many people are offended by seeing Muslims signing petitions to ban oktobeerfest in Germany,  you all find that disgusting that they dare asking the end of this "cultural activity" even if they live in Germany.  But here what are you doing? Asking the end of a cultural festival, same way Muslims do. You just try to impose your culture. Nothing else.

From Snopes, at http://www.snopes.com/ban-oktoberfest-petition/:
While the petition was "real" in the sense that someone actually posted it to Change.org, it was not written by "Muslim refugees" in Germany as implied by some publications. The author of the petition, Morad Almuradi, listed his location as The Netherlands: http://m.snopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/netherlands.jpg

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28951  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 11:51:41 AM
There is an interesting psychological (genetic?) point here. Many people of SE Asia do not have what we Westerners would call a natural love of pity. There is a similar thing among the American Indians of both North and South America.

Is our natural-like pity for suffering life due to inherent Christian values that are built into our society, handed down from parents to children, automatically, unknowingly? Is it a mindset that penetrates throughout our groups and society with a form of inner, subconscious ESP? Is there genetics tied to it?

People who marry from West to SE Asia often produce beautiful children. Yet there is a kind of underlying family difference that at times produces strife, and at other times is so different as to keep strife from being produced in the family, simply because there is no common ground.

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28952  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: July 29, 2016, 02:01:24 AM
Give me your BTC, address, I will tip you! Never saw a more decent post in my entire life.

5. It is my life! I define my destiny, not a priest!

Thanks, but no need to tip me.

If you want to help us, atheists, promoting reason, science and tolerance, just post on this thread sometimes.

No doubt, many theists are tolerant people, however, the number of radical believers has been growing (thanks just to their higher birth rates and massive indoctrination of their children) and they can end up being a menace to our way of life or, at least, the one of our children.

Radicalism/orthodoxy has been rising not only on Muslim countries, including Turkey or Indonesia, but also on Israel and even on the United States.

And, yes, in the end, religion is mostly about the power and financial support of a cast of professional priests that live on the credulity of their fellow citizens.

And this has been going on for at least 13,000 years (see Gobekli Tepe).

Actually, God working with theists is the reason atheists even have a life. After all, since he saves many theists to eternal life, why not convert some of the atheists so some of them can be saved, as well?

Besides, nobody knows that Gobekli Tepe is 13,000 years old. It's part of all the things that the scientific community assumes, just so that they can downplay the idea of God.

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28953  Other / Politics & Society / Doug Casey on President Hillary Clinton… World War III… and the Deep State on: July 29, 2016, 01:54:43 AM
Doug Casey on President Hillary Clinton…
World War III…
and the Deep State






I recently sat down with Casey Research founder Doug Casey to discuss this. Doug is a former classmate of Bill Clinton and has met him several times, including once at the White House.

Nick Giambruno: There is a popular conception that only the "best and brightest" go into government. I think this is a sacred cow that needs to be slaughtered. What's your take, Doug?

Doug Casey: It's a real problem when a pernicious myth subverts reality. Everybody believes that the institution of government is like Camelot—a wise ruler assisted by noble paladins. Maybe that meme gained traction in recent times with John Kennedy and his good-looking wife, Jackie. They looked like an ideal couple. They weren't. But they were a lot better than what followed for the next 50 years…

The fact is that the high levels of government do get people with high IQs. They can pass tests. They're skilled at manipulating both laws and people. But they tend to be of a low moral character, number one. Number two, despite their high IQs, they're actually quite stupid. Let me explain these things.

From a moral point of view, there are two types of people in the world. People who believe in coercion when dealing with their fellow humans. And people who believe in dealing voluntarily with their fellow humans.

The government is a force. The essence of government is coercion. So, people attracted to it are necessarily the wrong kind of people, coercion-oriented people. Government draws much more than its share of criminal personalities.

And they're not the most intelligent people—completely contrary to common belief. It's because one sign of intelligence is not just seeing the immediate and direct consequences of an action—any intelligent six-year-old can usually do that. It's seeing the indirect and delayed consequences of actions. They're very bad at that.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/nick-giambruno/president-hillary-world-war-iii/.


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28954  Other / Politics & Society / Vietnam Vet Shot For Being a Trump Supporter on: July 28, 2016, 03:23:47 PM
Vietnam Vet Shot For Being a Trump Supporter





A political discussion at a bar in Cleveland ended with a Vietnam vet being shot in the leg because of his support for Donald Trump.

60-year-old Paul Jones, Jr. was having a conversation with a friend at Winston's Place near E. 131st Street and Miles Avenue on Monday evening.

A man sitting nearby overheard the chat and immediately became aggressive.

"He butted in the conversation," Jones told WEWS from his hospital bed. "The conversation wasn't directed at him or to him."

The man continued to get more irate, going to his car to retrieve a gun before he returned and shot Jones in the thigh.

The shooter fled the scene and detectives are still searching for him.

"I'm quite sure you have a lot of people having their own opinions. But that doesn't mean you should hurt somebody because you have your own opinion," said Jones' mother Latosca.

The mainstream media has attempted to portray Donald Trump supporters as aggressive and violent for months, despite almost all the violence being directed against Trump supporters.

Just yesterday, footage emerged of a man attempting to sick a DNC protest crowd on a woman because she said she supported Donald Trump.


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/07/28/vietnam-vet-shot-for-being-a-trump-supporter/.


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28955  Other / Politics & Society / Bernie Sanders Leaves the Democratic Party on: July 28, 2016, 03:18:59 PM
Bernie Sanders Leaves the Democratic Party





Sanders, who considers himself, officially, an Independent in Congress because his views lean further left than the Democratic party's platform, caucuses with Democrats. But until declaring an intention to run for the presidency in 2015, he had rarely, if ever, identified as a member of the Democratic Party (he's been in politics since 1979).

And now, despite pleading with his base to support Hillary, even though they're concerned that she's too moderate, Sanders will return to Vermont and to his seat in the Senate, and he'll do it with no official party affiliation.

The nomination was barely sealed up at the Democratic National Convention before Bernie Sanders, who had campaigned against Hillary Clinton for the party's nod, went back to being an Independent.

Sanders, who considers himself, officially, an Independent in Congress because his views lean further left than the Democratic party's platform, caucuses with Democrats. But until declaring an intention to run for the presidency in 2015, he had rarely, if ever, identified as a member of the Democratic Party (he's been in politics since 1979).

And now, despite pleading with his base to support Hillary, even though they're concerned that she's too moderate, Sanders will return to Vermont and to his seat in the Senate, and he'll do it with no official party affiliation.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was forced to resign as Chairwoman of the DNC after leaked emails revealed she'd tried to keep Sanders from challenging Clinton for the party's nomination, might even be vindicated—sort of.

Sanders has struggled all along with whether to call himself a Democrat, even ducking the question of his party affiliation, raised by local Vermont media, just days after he declared. He later tried to reinforce that he was, indeed, a Democrat. But Sanders certainly wasn't a party player—and that's exactly the concern Wasserman Schultz voiced in the Wikileaks document dump.

In an April 24 email she received with an article describing the ways Sanders felt the DNC was undermining his campaign, she wrote back, "Spoken like someone who has never been a member of the Democratic Party and has no understanding of what we do."


Read more at http://heatst.com/politics/bernie-sanders-leaves-the-democratic-party/.


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28956  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are women taking over the world? on: July 28, 2016, 03:15:22 PM
It is no secret that USA and UK are some of the world's most powerful nations.

With Mrs May becoming Britain's Prime Minister and Mrs Clinton most likely wining the presidential election, it looks like women have somehow managed to take over from men - at least for the time being...

Hmmm, patience can really turn things around Lips sealed
I am not convinced, Trump has a large group of fans too. It's not possible to know the results yet.  If gender is the reason to vote for a candidate we have sunk to new lows  Undecided.


With Obama saying last night that she would do a better job than Bill or even him is a big endorsement for her to become president.
Just that recognition from a powerful man like that just boosted woman voters moral all over america.

Is Obama Trustworthy?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026037.msg15738922#msg15738922

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28957  Other / Politics & Society / Watch it FREE: Make Sure Everyone Sees Clinton Cash (Full Documentary) on: July 28, 2016, 03:11:59 PM
Watch it FREE: Make Sure Everyone Sees Clinton Cash (Full Documentary)





It's no secret that I believe Hillary Clinton is the worst thing that has happened to American in decades. She has been proven to be a liar and a threat to national security. She doesn't care about you, your family, or your troubles, whether you are a woman, a minority, or any other marginalized or presumably trodden-upon individual. Don't be fooled by her grand speeches and political machine.

If you want to know the truth about where the Clintons' wealth came from, it can be found in the book, Clinton Cash. But you don't have to order the book. It has been turned into a documentary. Watch the whole thing here, for free.

Will your conscience allow you to stand idly by as she gets more power and more money while impoverishing you and urinating on both the constitution and national security?

I don't believe that voting is necessarily the answer, but we can cause an uproar that cannot be ignored. If we all shout together we cannot be silenced. Watch. Share. Let everyone know that you won't allow this greedy criminal to be the President of the United States.


CLINTON CASH OFFICIAL DOCUMENTARY MOVIE ( FULL )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM



Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/07/28/watch-it-free-make-sure-everyone-sees-clinton-cash-full-documentary/.


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28958  Other / Politics & Society / Payback: This Is WHY Vladimir Putin Wants To Take Hillary Down: "His Chance For on: July 28, 2016, 03:06:14 PM
Payback: This Is WHY Vladimir Putin Wants To Take Hillary Down: "His Chance For Getting Even"





Following the release of 20,000 Democratic National Committee emails by Wikileaks, there's been much ado about the source of the hack. Behind the release is a mysterious figure known only as Guccifer 2.0. It's been said he is Romanian, but U.S. intelligence officials claim that the technology used to compromise DNC systems included Russian language hacking tools.

The DNC, Clinton campaign and even President Obama are implying that Vladimir Putin is behind the hack and subsequent release of documents. The Kremlin has dismissed the allegations as absurd.

Russia has maintained that their long-standing policy is not to meddle in the elections of other countries. Of course, there are exceptions, and as the following report from Time Magazine suggests, Vladimir Putin has every reason to take down Hillary.

It's payback time and Putin may well be taking this opportunity to make good on a personal vendetta.

In December 2011, Vladimir Putin came closer than he's ever been to losing his hold on power. His decision that year to run for a third term as Russia's President had inspired a massive protest movement against him. Demonstrations calling for him to resign were attracting hundreds of thousands of people across the country. Some of his closest allies had defected to the opposition, causing a split in the Kremlin elites, and Russian state media had begun to warn of a revolution in the making.

At a crisis meeting with his advisers on Dec. 8 of that year, the Russian leader chose to lay the blame on one meddling foreign diplomat: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/07/28/payback-this-is-why-vladimir-putin-wants-to-take-hillary-down-his-chance-for-getting-even/.


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28959  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are women taking over the world? on: July 28, 2016, 03:00:25 PM
Everybody knows that Adam ate the fruit when Eve told him to. Adam might have had a choice, but women have ruled since then.

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28960  Other / Politics & Society / Bernie Sanders threatened with loss of Senate committee position if he didn't... on: July 28, 2016, 02:58:18 PM
Bernie Sanders threatened with loss of Senate committee position if he didn't endorse Hillary





Watching Sen. Bernie Sanders hoarsely shouting his praises of Hillary Clinton at the Democratic National Convention — and knowing that the hacked emails of the corrupt Democratic National Committee (DNC) reveal its machinations to undermine Bernie's campaign — did you wonder as I did why Bernie would be so servile? The Yiddish words schmuck and schlemiel come to mind.

I thought that Hillary probably bought Bernie off with promises of some plum assignment in her administration. But I should know better because the Clintons are nasty pieces of work who wouldn't use the carrot when the stick is so much cheaper and more effective.

Reporting from the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, independent investigative journalist Wayne Madsen says Bernie Sanders was threatened with the loss of his ranking position on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee if he did not endorse Hillary with enthusiasm.


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/07/28/bernie-sanders-threatened-with-loss-of-senate-committee-position-if-he-didnt-endorse-hillary/.


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