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So... something strange just happened on my node. I've been busy with work today and didn't really check on my node. However, when I just recently looked, I noticed a couple of blocks had been found. I checked my wallet... and no payout. Well, that's just odd, since I definitely have shares on the chain.
I head on over to windpath's node to check on my address and see that each block records me as being on the payout list. I go and check blockchain... yup, my address received the payouts. So... where are they?
I looked at my client and see the happy green checkbox stating that all is good in the world and that I'm up to date. I see multiple connections. Everything looks good. Right up until I look at the block height reported as the latest. Um... that block was found over 5 hours ago.
The core client claimed it was up to date and everything showed green, but clearly it wasn't. I restarted the core client and when it came back up it happily synchronized and wouldn't you know it, I get the notifications of my mining payouts.
Has anyone ever seen this before?
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3 Things:
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Thanks. My node is not showing 2 blocks found today. It is only showing 1 of the 3. My node shows block 328799, but is missing 328777 and 328755. Would be great if anyone knows how to fix this in the front-end code. Cheers. Edit: Oops... Congrats Windpath! It is not actually a bug in the front end code, it is a limitation of only pulling data from the p2pool node. When a share is DOA it is not included in the share chain, so other p2pool nodes do not know about it. However, DOA shares that meet the minimum bitcoin difficulty are still submitted to the bitcoin network just to be safe. Two of these DOA shares found a block today... This does happen relatively frequently. The problem is that however you find the "DOA blocks" it ads dependencies to the front end that are not required to run a node, and increases the complexity of running one... CoinCadence can find these blocks because we scan the bitcoin blockchain for p2pool blocks and store them in a MySQL DB. There are 3 ways that come to mind to accomplish including these blocks in your front end: 1. Scan the local bitcoin blockchain as mentioned above 2. Pull P2Pool blocks from another source (i.e. https://blockchain.info/blocks/P2Pool contains blocks from the last 3 days, someone did this on the Node Status front end and shared the source here if you want to dig through the thread for it) 3. Monitor the balance on your payout address (will have some false positives when donations occur) Or you can just visit http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php  Thank you for the explanation. I already have the coincadence site bookmarked, so I'm good to go there. I was just hoping there was an easy way to adjust the code on the local node. And now I understand why. Thanks again. As windpath stated, virtually every front end relies upon the share data on your local node to obtain the information used in the display. Since DOA/Orphan shares never make it into the chain, nodes don't know about them, and hence can't display the info to the user. The most reliable way to actually get p2pool blocks is to query the blockchain.info APIs and filter on p2pool. http://blockchain.info/blocks/P2Pool?format=json
gets you this:
{
"blocks" : [
{
"height" : 328799,
"hash" : "00000000000000000c3ad871b33074e0c7764ef49c8b55b3b7adeaa23368a434",
"time" : 1415269319,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328777,
"hash" : "000000000000000014887e877f75f2b2891ae07794d3d9f89b2e18cde0640f7d",
"time" : 1415260433,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328755,
"hash" : "000000000000000014d699b2c406f04bd9ebfb0be4971db7159b2e87e498ad26",
"time" : 1415249780,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328555,
"hash" : "000000000000000011ca6426165101ea682e9432383a10d7877dce5086c9be06",
"time" : 1415131036,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328506,
"hash" : "000000000000000004228856bb5340644e299c85e03ff0dfec46165cdd6fe90f",
"time" : 1415104948,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328402,
"hash" : "00000000000000001ad400d94bcefa5712325b159b9f0c20f83ab74f69d91bf0",
"time" : 1415050207,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328270,
"hash" : "00000000000000000ef9d63a3e7a93bd86aee5d38a050665febcd7d63f7fc6d6",
"time" : 1414979743,
"main_chain" : true
},
{
"height" : 328253,
"hash" : "000000000000000015baf96ed8e738f41c69fbcdd76e73a49b9d1f481890d197",
"time" : 1414973069,
"main_chain" : true
}
]
}
If you want more detailed information about the block, you can then query about each specifically: http://blockchain.info/block-index/328799?format=json
gets you the following:
{
"hash":"0000000000000001a90ea36d3c2b44e5dc9658a63b99916ca77e81be9fde3fb0",
"ver":2,
"prev_block":"0000000000000009c0ea1ce62d6affc55cb84455e51edd7c6cea352563b6fcc3",
"mrkl_root":"2921c6ddb81babe9baf571cee293bc7b6c2d7d36944ae1d039bb8bbd6a0ceca7",
"time":1382908236,
"bits":420150405,
"fee":6356397,
"nonce":1565264106,
"n_tx":151,
"size":105883,
"block_index":328799,
"main_chain":true,
"height":266427,
"received_time":1382908240,
"relayed_by":"68.168.104.126",
"tx":[{"ver":1,"size":2954,"inputs":[{"sequence":4294967295,"script":"03bb10040d00456c696769757300526d8118fabe6d6d91f57b13a8f0ef318e7afb8f221514d0571fd65f87d6b62095efc2cf02ea60bc0400000000000000002f7373312f00d037e70e00000000563b0200"}],"time":1382908240,"tx_index":41908536,"vin_sz":1,"hash":"2a4076ba40e87159549f3fbe3a7725f0256326426dd06c056bc2b1fdb7b256b5","vout_sz":83,"relayed_by":"68.168.104.126","out":
.....
.....
}
Using this information, you can properly render things. |
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Congrats on your first block find windpath!
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I don't know if anyone out there would be interested in helping me out, but I have a new P2Pool node I put up in the New Orleans area and I just need to see if it is accessible remotely. I have to use DDNS since Cox does not allow for residential static IPs.
If anyone is interested in pointing a miner in my direction the information is as follows and I greatly appreciate your assistance.
host: stratum+tcp://luckypyrate.noip.me.
You shouldn't need to append it with port 9332 as the DDNS is already pointing to it.
Thanks for your help and hopefully we can get this opened up to the public tonight.
Yes, it's accessible remotely. I can see you've got about 3TH/s on your local node, and are running the stock p2pool front end. Tracing shows the IP of 8.23.224.90, which is Level 3 communications and Vitalwerks Internet Solutions. Pinging from my home in South NJ results in an average 109ms trip. I know the interface is accessible, I was asking if anyone could actually mine with it. As of right now the pool shows as dead if I use the URL you provided in your original post. The interface, however, is still remotely accessible. |
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Each share has a time to live before it falls off the payout list. The more shares you have on the share chain, the more BTC you get when the pool finds a block. If, as in your example, miners 1 and 5 have no shares, but miners 2, 3 and 4 do, when the pool finds a block, you'll receive payouts to the wallet addresses for miners 2, 3 and 4 corresponding to the number of shares each of those miners has on the chain when the block is found.
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I don't know if anyone out there would be interested in helping me out, but I have a new P2Pool node I put up in the New Orleans area and I just need to see if it is accessible remotely. I have to use DDNS since Cox does not allow for residential static IPs.
If anyone is interested in pointing a miner in my direction the information is as follows and I greatly appreciate your assistance.
host: stratum+tcp://luckypyrate.noip.me.
You shouldn't need to append it with port 9332 as the DDNS is already pointing to it.
Thanks for your help and hopefully we can get this opened up to the public tonight.
Yes, it's accessible remotely. I can see you've got about 3TH/s on your local node, and are running the stock p2pool front end. Tracing shows the IP of 8.23.224.90, which is Level 3 communications and Vitalwerks Internet Solutions. Pinging from my home in South NJ results in an average 109ms trip. |
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I recommend block erupters. BEST value in SHA256 MH/S.
Are you in 2013? USB ASICs are not even profitable right now, they can't even breakeven with the skyrocketing difficulty. It is only a collector item now, you won't be able to earn with a USB ASIC. Pretty sure he meant these: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791827.0Or... at least I hope he did. Otherwise, either a) he's a complete tool... err... troll or b) it was sarcasm. |
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I read that article this morning and all I could think was, "somebody needs to do a little research before writing anything ever again." Full of glaring mistakes and downright BS.
Yeah... sure... these Bitcoin Brothers have their own proprietary 16nm chip that consumes 1/20th the power and are going to be mining by Q1. Good luck with that.
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Hello, just found out about Bitcoin (surprise, surprise), and I am now wondering how I can start mining by my own or in pools. I have no idea what I am doing at the moment and would like to invest in these beauties. I have a fairly decent laptop at my disposal, and free energy  First... welcome to the world of crypto. Second... your laptop is not the miner you're looking for. Seriously, you have more chance to turn it into a paperweight than to mine BTC with it. You're a couple years too late to the party. As has been suggested in the reply by Xyver, if you truly want to get into mining, you're going to have to purchase dedicated hardware or venture into cloud mining contracts. There are a number of choices in both, and there are numerous threads available for you to research before making a choice. Spoiler alert: neither hardware, nor cloud is a very good idea currently. Good luck, and again, welcome. |
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Bitmains new S2 firmware improves p2pool compatibility, it's still not optimal, but much more bearable with a lower DOA/reject rate than before - as well as almost a 100Gh/s increase! (in my case, one went from 880 to 980) Bitmain let me test their beta releases on my node & they seem to have got this one right - shows what a little R&D can do..... I'm using --queue 1 atm, will test with queue 0 later.  Better late then never I guess, that is good news Shame they didn't do it 10 weeks ago. Running with --queue 0 is proving the best setting again I'm finding - it's like a new miner!  Wow... they're just now releasing p2pool compatible firmware for the S2. I remember discussing this here in May/June. Glad you finally got your S2 to work on p2pool, though |
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I prefer hashnest. Because its cheapest per hash right now..
?? Cheapest ?? It's at least 3 times pricier than another service. Can u please support your claim with proper data ? HashNest: 0.001125 BTC/GHS (at current BTC price of $340) = $0.3825/GHS $0.00318/GHS/Day maintenance fees. GAW: $0.695/GHS $0.002/GHS/Day fees Genesis (Diamond): $0.77/GHS No fees, but you need to layout a bunch of cash up front Certainly not 3x more expensive... not sure where AizenSou got that 3x number. |
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Successful pools distribute the bitcoin generated by millions of dollars worth of hardware generating hundreds of thousands of dollars each day.
Do you really think miners are willing to trust that amount of money to someone who doesn't even know how to set one up?
There are probably dozens of us that run our own pools privately too, ya know. And a lot of peer with the likes of Coincadence or others, but you would never know we were there if it weren't for the pool directory sites which list us. There is a great many people who are most concerned about geographic proximity to the pool node over any supposed credibility one may have. Not everyone uses bitcointalk or even know who gmaxwell or ckolvinas or forrestv even are, they are just here to mine, not partake in the community (unless they require assistance). When you're peering with coin cadence, you're setting up a p2pool node. That's quite a bit different than what the OP is asking. I highly doubt you've running your own BTC pool and mining on it with a few friends where when you find a block you get all 25 BTC. I've setup pools using coinium and MPOS servers as an exercise to see how it's done and mined on test net. At this point in the game, as Con pointed out, who's going to trust you to manage that much coin if you don't even know how to setup the pool yourself? It would be like going into the bank and having the banker ask you how the bank works. |
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GAWminers is double dipping on their Hashlet markplace. Is anyone else seeing this?
If we list a hashlet for $10 the form tells us we will only get $9.50 after fees. Then we look in the market and they are listing our hashlet for $10.50... so they are actually taking 10%.
They clearly laid out the fees when they introduced the market: 5% buyer fee and 5% seller fee. Not saying I agree with it, but it isn't like this should be a surprise to you. |
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In all honesty, I'm not sure how the payout for HP is calculated. When it was initially announced, it was said to be the same payout as you would get from ZenPool, except in HP instead of BTC. OK... but, the current payout in USD (with BTC at $350) per MH/s on Zen should be $0.11, so 11HP if each is a penny... yet, the rates show it to be 17HP.
Anyway, as of right now with BTC at $350, your daily payout for the ZenPool is 0.0003141BTC per MH/s. The maintenance fee is 0.00022857BTC netting you a payout of 0.00008553BTC per MH/s or, converted at the same rate $0.03 per MH/s per day.
So ask yourself... are you willing to give up $0.03 a day? Might as well just point them to mine those HP. Not like it's costing you much of anything to try it.
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Look on the bright side... if you're attracting that much vitriol, it means you're getting traffic and your work is being read . Have you considered p2pool for your reviews at all? I'd be glad to share my experience if you'd like. |
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Hi all, I also recently joined ckpool with one of my antminer s1's that was lying about doing nothing. Might as well use it for the luck factor. Just one question, I noticed on blockchain that quite a number of blocks were discovered by ckpool during September 2014. It appears that only one (1) block was discovered by ckpool during October 2014. Anybody know the reason for the decrease  Con setup the pool for some pretty large-sized miners in September, which explains the number of found blocks. As far as I know, only 2 blocks have been solved by "regular" miners here. One guy had about 5 - 6TH/s here when he found the block, and the other guy had about 9TH/s when he solved it. |
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The concept of pool is originally against Satoshi's idea of decentralization.
It most certainly is not. Satoshi himself realized that mining would become an industrial-scaled operation. Pool owners did it for sheer profit and u find that OK.
Pool owners realized they could combine many miners together and have a better chance of solving blocks, which in turn meant more profit for the miners. Some of those owners charged fees for the privilege of mining on the pool. Others did not, but found other ways to obtain coin such as donations and merge mining. U say ASIC miner manufacturers are mining themselves is a Capitalist feature.
Just like the guys who initially wrote the pool software and gathered together people combining their hashing power towards solving blocks, the ASIC manufacturers take that a step further. They produce the chips, put together the hardware and mine with it, and/or sell it, and/or provide cloud mining services. Why would the guy who invented the shovel not be allowed to use it to dig for gold as well as sell the shovel to others? And when someone perform block withholding attack... u find it stealing ?
Absolutely. Those who perform block withholding attacks have changed the software to give themselves an unfair advantage. They are purposefully withholding a solution, and if the OP is to be believed are somehow transferring that solution somewhere else to give themselves a larger portion of the pie than they deserve for the work that was done there. It's like hacking your ATM card to be able to withdraw money, yet not have that withdrawal reflected in your bank's balance. It's theft, plain and simple. Wake up buddy. Block withholding practice is now spreading among miners like wildfire. There is a good side of it. People will lose faith on pools with time and the mining will be de-centralized again. Be dynamic. Accept the change.
Seriously? You really think that the thieves should get away with it because that will somehow breakdown the pools and magically spread the mining back to the masses? Yikes. |
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I'm convinced you're just here to shill for whatever that website is.
I'm convinced OP really can count to potato. |
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Payouts are low due to ZenPool being lower than it was a week ago. Payouts are low because BTC price is down, which directly affects your fees. However, ZenHashlets, should most certainly not be hashing at a loss. As of right now, 1MH/s ZenHashlet will earn 0.00037521 BTC. The $0.08 fee with BTC at $350 is 0.00022857 BTC. Yup, you're paying 60.92% in fees, but hey... it's not a loss!  So that 39.08% must all be profit since the hashlet cost nothing? I wasn't engaging in an ROI discussion, so the initial cost of the Hashlet was irrelevant. OP stated his Hashlet payouts for the past 2 days are at a loss, which would indicate he's paying more in fees than the Hashlets are earning over the 24 hour payout period. I just pointed out that for the ZenHashlet, even though the fees are a ridiculous percentage, it's not a loss. Even the lowest-paying Hashlet does not generate a loss - currently it pays 0.00025575 BTC per MH/s and with BTC at $350 and $0.08 fee per MH/s, fees equal 0.00022857 BTC per MH/s. |
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With the S3 already outdated ( impossible to get ROI at current price and efficiency), the S4 being totally overpriced, I belive it is time that we should see an S5 in the next few months ?
my forecast specs are :
Power consumption : about 400w
GH/S: close to 1.000 GH/S
I'm going to assume you meant that it's going to be 1 TH/s and not the 1GH/s you wrote (maybe you meant 1000GH/s, and the "." was meant as the "," is used in the US). Unless Bitmain comes up with a new chip in the near future, you're not going to see too much efficiency difference than what is currently available. Their current-gen tech is about 0.7W/GH/s (the BM1382). They aren't going to get the kind of efficiency you're hoping for with that chip. |
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