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I'd just suggest using Coinomi and sending your coins there. It's not the most secure thing in the world but for temporary mining use it'll work, just make sure you use a secure password and you won't have any problems.
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Questions like these come up every day and the answer is just Google it yourself. This constantly changes and you have specified absolutely nothing. The internet is at your fingertips so use your fingers and type it in.
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This might be asking for too much but would you be willing to crack open the miner and take a look at the insides? I'm curious about the technology inside that's doing all this work, especially with the efificency being impressive for 28nm.
Good to know Pangolin are legit, had a feeling they were when they offered to give out review samples.
I will try to have time to do this next week. Do you mean that you would like to see good detailed pictures from both sides of the hash board? CE and ROHS available?
I do not trust chinese hardware without proper certification.
I would advice asking them about that, via e-mail sales@pangolinminer.comYep, I'd like to see the hash board and controller if possible. Just want to get an idea of how the miner is arranged internally. Mine will arrive in 2 days.
I will post in this review and do a you-tube video of it
Can't wait to see it! I like your recent video style, hope you do the same for the miner review. |
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Why is this still a thing? its fake guys, and the troll that keeps saying its real is just a troll. But heh! you can always gamble your money away on scams! I heard its super fun (let us know how it goes lol)
Because the mods really don't really lock or move threads anymore for things like this even though we have solid evidence that the only people supporting these are troll accounts. I reported this so hopefully it'll be moved. |
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This might be asking for too much but would you be willing to crack open the miner and take a look at the insides? I'm curious about the technology inside that's doing all this work, especially with the efificency being impressive for 28nm.
Good to know Pangolin are legit, had a feeling they were when they offered to give out review samples.
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Yes it does. The only reason why this entire fiasco is happening in the first place is politics and the miners trying to overtake Bitcoin, you can see this with the recent pump of BCH and more miners switching than ever before. With the EDA being replaced in 15 hours you know they're getting ready for their final push to try to overtake Bitcoin. Things will probably return to normal by then, as we all know miners can't burn through so much money for such a long time.
I'm personally not sure of a way to effectively fight this as this'll likely become more common in the future if we have continually more centralized hashpower. That was the root of all our problems anyhow.
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Filters aren’t super expensive, you can try buying just one pair of them and testing them on one miner for a day to see if airflow isn’t restricted and temps are still good. Actual testing is the best way and fortunately these covers are pretty cheap.
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos. Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible. May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened? They are still selling L3+ anyway They dont have rights to kill customers investement . This is about customer rights , Not chips. My dude, if you're a miner, and a serious one at that, you know the risks you're exposing yourself to. There was an incredible influx of newbs that came along with the D3, people that heard about mining 3 days prior to sending money to bitmain probably. These people gotta learn the hard way that you're not getting a money printing machine. And, as with anything that involves financial motivations, there are risks. And rewards. The latter not so much with the D3, but it is what it is. I also have one and I couldn't say I'm happy about the situation, but I knew what I was getting into at least. Made a decent amount in september though, so there's that. I'm also frustrated with the current situation. I checked out your petition and I'm wondering if it is even possible to repurpose these miners to hash different algos? Actually it is pretty technical issue which I can not claim exactly. But we all know that Baikal has announced to add 2 more algo for their miner. Of course it does not mean that this could be the same for our case. Probably totally different issues both hardware and software I prefer to hear it from the company as an official statement. At present, 91 people have signed this proposal. https://www.change.org/p/https-twitter-com-bitmaintech-d3-antminer-firmware-update-for-additional-mining-algorithms?recruiter=831205993&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petitionI think the bitmain owes us at least an offical explanation about that . Yea, Baikal are FPGA based and Bitmain are ASIC, you are comparing apples to oranges. it seem Baikal has did the same thing 1 year ago . How do you pretty sure Bitmain can not do it ? maybe they also want to clean up this mess. Overclocking 15 GHS miners to 19 GHS is very funny solution. it just turned d3s into a better heater. http://bitcoinist.com/baikal-algorithms-x11-miner/I’ve answered this question thousands of times now and people just can’t get it into their thick skulls. Baikal designed an FPGA based miner which means the circuit inside can be reprogrammed and reflashed Tom possibly make for the hashing of other algorithms possible. The downside of using FPGAs is their efficiency is indeed better than that of a GPU’s, but they are less efficient than an ASIC. Bitmain has designed an ASIC based miner which results in better efficiency than FPGAs. The downside of this is the chip is limited to only X11 and cannot be simply firmware flashed to mine other algorithms. Unless you can physically change the circuitry inside of the chips it is not possible to mine other algorithms on the D3. There’s legitimately nothing more to this. Making a petition or new firmware will not work. You’d have to have a FPGA based miner to do that. Unless they somehow refunded the D3s or gave coupons to buyers for a newer miner there’s no way they can clean up the mess they’ve made. I doubt they care anyways since they make millions in profits from their miners since people choose them solely for their efficiency and cost while ignoring the fact that Bitmain uses the cheapest possible parts and runs their miners, sometimes for long periods of time, before selling them. This makes them incredibly unreliable and repairs are expensive. This is why competition is good, to force Bitmain to make a better product. |
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could be a farm shutting a few miners down for maintenance or swapping them out for new ones, nobody knows. Price seems like it’s hit resistance in the last day or two. Perhaps a downwards correction in price will come soon, we are yet to have any major correction. I welcome any drops as it keeps us home miners in the game a little longer  |
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Yeah I don't know about $2000. Even on eBay where prices are extremely high for miners I've been seeing them sold around $1300-1500 and people are actively trying to sell them for around or below $1500 shipped in the USA. Do you accept escrow? Most people wouldnt transact with a brand new account, much less one not accepting escrow. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2370891.0This member is selling his for $1300 with the PSU with shipping included, with escrow. You might want to consider lowering prices. |
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S9s are still pretty unreliable and there can be issues straight out of the box. Repair isn't exactly cheap for these units in a lot of cases but if the price is right then go for it. I would personally try to buy an Avalon A7 before considering an S9. Bitcoin mining profits have stayed actually relatively good for the last year due to the price of bitcoin increasing. It's unclear from this point where difficulty and price will go, but for both I expect an upward trend. GPUs also require slightly more maintenance than ASICs, though one rig isn't a whole lot to worry about.
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The temperature shutdown thing doesn't work and hasn't ever worked on any Antminer unit, at least for me. Don't rely on it, I've seen miners go above my set temp by 5-10 and nothing happened. Under 80-70 is a good temp to have your miners at.
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Kano works on the principle of PPLNS which ramps up and down, thus giving the rewards to the most loyal miners and preventing pool hopping but still giving a large reward. You'll see your mining rewards ramping up in the next day if you continue to mine there and if you stop you'll still get rewards, albeit ramping down to zero. Personally my favorite kind of reward system.
For a better explanation HagssFIN linked the pool thread.
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Do note that Finsky being Finsky, no doubt the PCIe leads are 16ga and survived without even a blister. Then again, together 9x 16ga wires can carry a helluva lot of current. Connectors got toasted as aftermath of the main fault. What very obviously blew are the power planes on the PCB's. He mentioned it was an s7 batch-1, those have no Vcore reg so the strings of chips are fed directly from the PSU with nothing at all to limit power going through the PCB other than the resistance of the copper itself. The first 3 batches of s9's are the same setup. When a chip or something else shorted the power planes and with the board fed by a supply more than happy to dump in over 3x more than an entire 3-board miner normally takes  Been using the Bitmain PSU's for several years with zero problems other than the fan whines more after a couple years. While a similar fault when using a more reasonably rated supply would still toast a board the result should be far less catastrophic since the PSU would shut down a lot sooner. Oh, and all computer PSU's and pretty much all industrial ones are switchers. Other than in legacy equipment from the 70's or for very special needs I haven't seen a high power linear supply in decades. Had no idea Bitmain has cut down so much on costs and production quality recently (well, I did know but I wasn't aware of catastrophic failures resulting from em like this). Thank god Finsky actually found those issues in time, could have been a lot worse for all of us if Bitmain got away with it. Hope they don't try to sneak in the same thing for the next batch of their future SHA miners. Just another note to always use good, low AWG cables. Good cabling not only prevents heat issues and melting wires but can also help diagnose the root of an issue like with the faulty S7s/9s. I personally never use any cables higher than 16s with breakout boards. Never use any molex or SATA to 6 pin connector either, they use high awg wire and the quality on those are extremely bad. |
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I sent their sales team an email and have been waiting to hear back. I can attest to the quality of the M1 miner which seems to be the same miner as the M3. The efficiency is worse than an S9 but I suspect with availability and this lower price that you’d still do just fine with an M3.
Considering the fact that the Pangolin miners are based off of the older 28nm process I'm actually quite surprised there's still room for improvement in ASICs. Of course efficiency's going to be lower than the S9 on an older node but if these guys deliver by chance it's going to be pretty nice. Hope 14nm is great from these guys too if their 28nm miner is actually legit. |
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64 or 32GB is sufficient for most rigs considering most mining OSes and Linux don’t use a whole lot. If you’re feeling ballsy you can use 16 or just boot by USB. Open air setups can be done as well, but you’ll need a frame for that which doesn’t cost too much, you can also make your own out of wood or buy a metal or wooden one. CPU coolers don’t matter, the one coming with any Intel or AMD cpu is fine. 4GB of DDR4 and 1070s/1060s would be my pick for the rest. I prefer open air as it’s pretty efficient and you save money on case fans and cases.
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Signalling intent doesn’t mean the signalling entities have to switch to the HF. It’s only intent and chances are many of them probably won’t even switch. Considering many NYA supporters have already stopped signalling S2X is already starting to lose its wings and we could see even less signalling in the future.
As for mining ck hit the nail on the head.
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They’re likely not getting enough investors and enough profits from their “farm” to pay back people wishing to withdraw so putting up a high withdraw requirement is probably the last straw before they run for good. There’s little reason to put something like this up unless there’s issues with currency conversion, etc on their end. Wish they’d be more transparent about this. Remember that cloud mining is essentially gambling and to never invest more than you can afford to lose.
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.002 incoming, not much but hope it helps! Just decided to dig out a few coins in my hot wallet 83b53e4e2eae470997e350b400340f7de7e99c76b05667e10887e77d6b2bdccc Hit me up with a random number/letter too  |
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I’ll get my hardware wallet out later and put in a small donation in a few hours. Thanks for this raffle minerjones, hope this’ll be another great one!
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