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2901  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Experiment] Abstract Coin 0.2.0 on: May 31, 2013, 05:41:55 AM
I have put the first AC coin up for sale over on currency exchange and alts,

the buyer can confirm I guess?

yes your proof of ownership is here killerpotleaf confirmed it

if you sell your coin

you can send it by quoting that confirmed  proof  and saying somthing like " I send 0.xxx coins to  YYYYYYY"  I (or someone else) will confirm it and it will be part of this most retarted quote chain FOREVER! ( or at least as long as this threat exists )


you should set up a twitter account for it

2902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LTC] Litecoin Core Development Fundraising on: May 31, 2013, 05:25:40 AM
can i send by BTCE code?

(these have less fees I think)
2903  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Experiment] Abstract Coin 0.2.0 on: May 31, 2013, 05:24:01 AM
I have put the first AC coin up for sale over on currency exchange and alts,

the buyer can confirm I guess?
2904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS] 0.001AC for 0.1BTC on: May 31, 2013, 05:20:59 AM
well for one its very energy efficient, and zero mining!

Definitely the most energy efficient coin... it just stole that title from PPC methinks. Perhaps it could be rebranded into GreenCoin or something like that  Smiley

though to be fair, if you added all the hardware running and viewing this image board, that has to be taken into account!
2905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS] 0.001AC for 0.1BTC on: May 31, 2013, 05:11:03 AM
Lets try and get a market cap for this!

for sale 0.0001AC for 0.1BTC





Now what's AC?

well for one its very energy efficient, and zero mining!
2906  Economy / Currency exchange / [WTS] 0.0001AC for 0.1BTC on: May 31, 2013, 04:53:59 AM
You will have look up what an AC is.

2907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [WTS] 0.0001AC for 0.1BTC on: May 31, 2013, 04:49:43 AM
Lets try and get a market cap for this!

for sale 0.0001AC for 0.1BTC

PM me





2908  Other / Off-topic / Re: [ANN] Abstract Coin 0.2.0 on: May 31, 2013, 04:42:01 AM
|AC8DG84KD| (0.400AC)AdamStgBit(0.300AC) -> jubalix
confirmed!

Thanks

also how you generate / choose the
AC8DG84KD

bit

and the (0.400AC)AdamStgBit(0.300AC) ->

is the 0.400AC the whole amount in your wallet?

why do you need AdamStgBit and AC?

thanks

the AC amount in the first bracket does not seem to decrement?

did i gett he diff between 0.4 and 0.3 AC so I have 0.1 AC?

2909  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Experiment] Abstract Coin 0.2.0 on: May 31, 2013, 03:15:53 AM
Cheesy thank you!

the genesis entry for Abstract Coin

Quote
|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit

confirmed  Smiley
|AC8DG84KD| (0.514AC)AdamStgBit(0.400AC) -> Killerpotleaf

confirmed
2910  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Experiment] Abstract Coin 0.2.0 on: May 31, 2013, 03:15:17 AM
Abstract Coins anyone?

now giving away 10% of the total supply to the next person to ask for it


I have asked but not received!

ABS pls!
2911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about this quotation from Fontas? on: May 31, 2013, 03:07:01 AM
"In the end, all coins will die off like RUC and IOC. First FTC and CNC, then TRC and NVC, finally LTC and BTC, but it will take much longer."

Do you agree or disagree with it??

yes, that's right computers killed writing....nope

BTC can evolve
2912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LTC] Litecoin Core Development Fundraising on: May 30, 2013, 07:07:00 AM
Some good arguments.

TradeFortress, I must say that you bring good arguments, and in a normal subsection of the forum, you would have convinced me.

The thing is, the alt-forum is a mess. You have the general/technical/pools/mining/important announcement/marketplace sections of every alt-coins crammed at the same place. Why this topic should have privilege? Simply because this topic is easily more important than 95% of the bullcrap in this subsection. I think you can agree with me that the quality of this subsection is pretty low and that more important topics get easily lost in the sea of spam.

This topic being stickied is only a symptom of the real problem, the current low quality of the alt-coin subsection.

Yes this is very close to my point....!!! well said
2913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC Price in 45Day Poll on: May 30, 2013, 07:03:20 AM
PPC is probably the most undervalued coin out there

It has a real known and good DEV for ages.

Could not agree more. I feel like LTC is a right where it should be + / - 20%
BTC is under and still recovering, i personally think its worth $140-150
NVC is hard to say I think its around where it should be and it makes it the only coin atm at true value.
TRC I hate so I just dont care ;p
PPC is waaayy under as I think it should be around 0.0025

ftc/cnc is total crap and I would not touch them with 10ft pole.

Exactly, TRC was the same price as PPC about a month back, and TRC is heading below TRC

PPC i think will go to 0.004+ maybe even 0.01+
2914  Other / Off-topic / Re: [ANN] Abstract Coin 0.2.0 on: May 30, 2013, 05:09:13 AM
Will you believe you own a piece of Abstract Coin tomorrow?
... 

Not if no one else does!


can you send me some abs coin please....

also twitter of google docs may help

you need a coin explorer that can knit together every thing that each individual sends along, then show a legit chain back to you

also by time, you could say that no new coins issued by you will be valid after this time X thus making a hard limit.
2915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC Price in 45Day Poll on: May 30, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
PPC is probably the most undervalued coin out there

It has a real known and good DEV for ages.
2916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] USDcoin on: May 30, 2013, 04:08:23 AM
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2917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [ANN] USDcoin on: May 30, 2013, 03:40:26 AM
Reserving for future use.

I am assembling a crack DEV team and funds/forums etc.

I will take my time. Lots and Lots of it.

I will would rather NOT release, than release inferior coins.



2918  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Parrallel block chains on: May 30, 2013, 03:13:14 AM
I just want to open the floor to thoughts about a parallel block chain system.

"Parallel blockchain" could mean different things to different people.   An alt-crypto currency is a parallel blockchain, but I'm not sure if that's what you are referring to.

As far as changing the Bitcoin protocol for "faster" confirmations, that would require a hard fork.    Unless this method adds value to Bitcoin it likely won't be accepted by the economic majority and thus will not survive as a fork.   "Faster" confirmations comes at a cost (security of confirmed transactions) and thus the Bitcoin protocol won't likely see such a chain.  Again, .... other alt coins do this now.

Or were you thinking of some other approach?

I agree with you, all valid points.

I had a very rough idea, and the problem is I confess I have not gone line by line (NeHe) style through BTC code or een had time at a superficial level.

It seems though that the next block is secured by the last and so on. I was conjecturing say at some point something the clients can run [n] block chains such that each [n+1] only occurs and when the security is above a certain level, and those security characteristics are in inherited by the [n+1] chain, then new transactions for a coin get initially [randomly?] assigned to a chain and continue on until the next [n+1] and  assignment occurs. However when dealing with a specific coins, some sort of marker data allows the client to know which of the [n] chains to access.

Again I may be talking right out of my hat here, and failing to understand a lot.....by I (dimly) perceive that satoshis signing method could be used across and between chains operating and accepted/generated by the same client/system.

Its almost as if we are going in a linear fashion when we may also go parallel using the same tech

Such a method implies sacrificing security on the individual parallel chains, taken as whole they would be of a similar security level.

The advantage being scaling.
2919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LTC] Litecoin Core Development Fundraising on: May 30, 2013, 02:52:18 AM
If I may say I have found both TF and CH very good and fair people to deal with. I hope to some extent this may diffuse any hard feelings, among you both who have considerable standing in this community.

I think a subtle point of elision in this is where the slippage is between deving and releasing a fork occurs and issues are arising out of structural issues of this fora.

Deving eventually may lead to a fork. It seems there is no issue with having a fork sticky, (though I leave this open if anyone wants to challenge this as legitimate). Thus where is the line between them, and around that question is perhaps where the sides of this argument may center.

Also at what point the the dissemination of information about alts/ development slip into commercial activity.

For example if a Fork was released and it also included, next fork on such and such a date,  donate here.

I apologize if I misrepresent any one, I see the thrust of the arguments as follows.

I think TF point is
[1] he pays out  advertising for commercial concerns on this site, why should some get a free ride,
[2]why should one alt be put above another?
[3]Also TF points do not "donators" to LTC in hope to profit. CUI BONO? thus is commercial Q.E.D
[4] and more

On the other hand CH I think is alluding to
[1]the greater good that will come of LTC DEV,
[2] other coins have sticky's about important issues.
and it not the major cross roads for alts the legitimate and proper place to do this?
[3] and more.


Both views have legitimate points. The reconciliation though it not easy.

I humbly point to and earlier point that I think some if these issues are arising out of the structural nature of the board in alts. For example the alt clients have an electrum child, and it would be legit I think to put up a request for donations there and no one would complain  (I accept this is slightly different point though).

The Alt board itself has reconised the clutter issue. I almost feel we need a separate ALTS forum/org, though that has a myriad of issues, with size of btcointalk and I doubt they would redirect traffic, versus their hesitance at the moment to make child boards. Eg DEV, ALTS ANN, FORKS or something like it would go some way to ameliorate the problems.



2920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Liberty Reserve on: May 29, 2013, 02:06:57 PM

Exactly! Let the government Liquidate Bitcoins' competition for us.

and then ban bitcoin in america and seize all american bitcoin exchanges/companies. It will be easy for them.

They are Govt. They can do anything.

Yes, please! Let them seize all the Bitcoins they can find and DESTROY them! So the remaining ones will skyrocket in price Cheesy

And don't forget that a) Bitcoin solves a lot of practical, real life problems. It will be used regardless of it being legal/illegal because there is a demand for it (check if prohibition got rid of gambling, drugs, prostitution, etc.); b) Bitcoin is in no way similar to Liberty Reserve, as it cannot be taken down unless you take down the internet; c) everything illegal, comes with a premium.

No fear my friends. Keep'em coming.


They can't seize bitcoins, but they can make price go down, and if panic started, you can just pray.


A. LR was in demand too
B. I never said they can seize bitcoins, but they can ban bitcoin related exchange sites/companies etc in USA like they did with LR in past, that time other countries exchanger (sites) will stop accepting US customers and price will fall.

This would long term make BTC sky rocket, also the rest of the world can keep BTC trading
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