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2901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: July 02, 2021, 04:58:49 AM
Sancho is a nice guy,he plays really well,has good scoring abilities,and also strong on the ball.But the question is can he do well in the English premier league?can he adapt quickly to Manchester United style of football,or he will flop in his first season like Nicolas Pepe flopped  in his first season for Arsenal FC.If he can adapt quickly to Man-u's style of football,it will really help them next season.Welcome to England boy.

Good question and guess we can only find out when he starts out for United. Yeah its a huge risk when a young player is brought down for a hefty price. I hope that this doesn't happens for United as they have wasted a transfer window and invested a good amount in getting the player. Honestly I would have preferred Grealish over Sancho but guess its all done now.

@Lordhermes I believe Sancho will have the desire to be better because of his Manchester City days, plus he’ll have the likes of Rashford, Maguire that’ll help him settle in quickly. Also the preseason preparation will be a very important phase for him, and i hope he makes most of it because that’ll allow him to adapt to the premier league once it begins.
2902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 01, 2021, 01:12:43 PM
I think exactly the same with you. It's really hard to predict the champions before seeing at least, idk maybe 10 or more games. But it still can be fallacious.

Let's give an example from the English Premier League. Liverpool started the season really good but Manchester City were totally the opposite. It went on like that for many weeks. At some point, Liverpool started dealing with big injury problems and their morale decreased also. On the other hand, Manchester City didn't give up the season and believed in themselves. After that, we know what happened.  Grin

Indeed, the prediction of the champion before the start of the season is just speculation. It's a very natural thing to happen and this will usually start based on last season's performance and also the transfers that occurred. This is also done by gamblers who like to follow the betting market to bet on the league champion from beginning of season. Maybe you don't need to give an EPL club for an example, we have AC Milan last season, very good in the beginning but they are failed end of season  Grin

@masulum EPL is a whole different level and only a fool would bid outright for any team to win the title at the start of the season, however since this is Italian League thread let’s bring the focus back to this league.

Also I feel Juventus will have a good chance of winning the league because Allergi is back, and Roma maybe a surprise package because of Jose Mourinho what do you’ll think?.
2903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 01, 2021, 08:59:36 AM
Well basically done.

Sancho to Manchester United. Who will they sell now?



Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1410300472204926977
After so much speculation finally this move has happened, hope this doesn't off set an imbalance at United for players to be demotivated and try to leave because of competition.

We need this guy to help bring some trophies for United as his a high impact player, in the mean time give the lad some game time for the EUROS  Tongue

@Woodie the only player who’s position is under scrutiny due to Sancho arrival is Greenwood, but I feel it’s also an opportunity for Greenwood now to become a central striker. Also I think he’ll get to play some role in the euros, but even if he doesn’t it’ll be fine because then he’ll come injury free and light up the premier league.
2904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 01, 2021, 04:30:57 AM
Mercedes is planning to add updates to its cars as it looks to regain its dominance in the Formula One world championship. So the current short term dominance by RedBull could be cut short.After Verstappen won the Styria Grand Prix, Hamiltondriver urged his team to make changes in the car in order to increase its speed.
Mercedes chief Toto Wolff said the focus is now on the 2022 car, but James Allison, director of the Mercedes technical office, made it clear that this did not preclude modifications to the current model.
The question for Mercedes now is that if they keep on fighting for this year's title, they could actually make that happen, but then next year's car will not be as good, whereas if they just let Red Bull win it this year, they will most definitely win it back next year for sure. It is just not an easy choice to make, it is really a difficult task and that is why I am not sure if they will actually do it or not. There is really no wrong answer here, it is racing and no matter what you do sometimes you just win because of luck, and sometimes you just lose because of being unlucky.
Of course cars play a big role, of course you need a good car, there is no denying that, but when two cars are as close as Red Bull and Mercedes cars, and when racers are this close in talent as well, it becomes a very tough task to win it by purely spending more money on this year's car, that is not going to guarantee anything.
The gap between the Mercedes and Red Bull cars is not so great that, like Ferrari, the championship is officially out of the fight, and there is no other way to call the recent step of the Italian team. Next season will have its own separate story with its own separate rules and priorities. And there is a chance to remain without a title this year, and not achieve anything next year, because many teams are already officially focusing on next year. Therefore, I believe that Mercedes will try to modernize the car until the last moment and fight for the title both in the individual competition and especially for the Constructors ' Cup.

@AndySt I believe that Mercedes will make few modifications now to keep Hamilton happy, because if he’s not happy then he won’t sign a contract extension hence they don’t have any option but to fulfil his wishes. However at the same time I don’t expect some major modifications immediately, but I feel they’ll strive to strike the right balance for being competitive now and then focusing on next year upgrades.
2905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: June 30, 2021, 03:36:14 PM
Did anyone watched the Sri Lanka vs England match yesterday? The spell from Chris Woakes was just unbelievable (10-5-18-4). Apart from Kusal Perera and Wanindu Hasaranga, none of the Lankan batsmen managed a score of 20 plus. Two matches remain for Sri Lanka, but I don't have much hope. They lost the T20 series 3-0. And it looks like they will lose the ODI series by the same margin as well. Sri Lanka is in a pathetic situation, as far as the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League is concerned. Right now they are at the 13th position.

@Vishnu.Reang the only reason I see Srilanka game is to wager against them, because they’re very predictable and when you bet against them you’re almost guaranteed a victory.

Furthermore I too doubt that they'll show any improvement in the remaining two games, hence my advice to all would be is wager on England and make some quick bucks.
2906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: June 30, 2021, 11:48:42 AM
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The economy will be completely destroyed if the lockdown measures remain in place. In India, the domestic 4-day championship (Ranji Trophy) was last conducted in 2019. The domestic players have seen their salaries declining by anywhere from 60% to 80%. But then, after so many deaths, it will be unwise to restart the tournaments. The only solution is vaccination. But India has completely vaccinated only 4.3% of its population (compared to 48% for the United Kingdom). And for reaching herd immunity, you need to completely vaccinate at least 75%. Until that figure is reached, I don't want India to host any major cricket tournaments.
The economy is affected globally and how every government is going to tackle these situation is going to be important, in the US the protest of the people forced them to open everything up but in Europe they are taking a calculated approach so that we do not want to go to a position where everything goes out of control once again and hospitals struggling to take care of everyone.

We can look at the countries of Europe in dealing with the coronavirus. They are the most successful. I don't see much news about coronavirus infection in China. I don't understand how they were able to control the situation so quickly. Coronavirus control should not result in the USA, they did not succeed.

I feel India can resume their sporting events first by giving vaccines to the sports player’s, and then only allowing vaccinated fans to come inside the stadium. Furthermore they can even make it mandatory to have covid19 negative tests for fans, and if they implement this system then I see no reason why sports events can’t resume in India.
2907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: June 30, 2021, 03:57:09 AM
~snip~
I would say that even 18-20 sounds a bit on the higher side.
On average its 9-10 tests per year, looks manageable imo


Home-Away series for every team.

Looks like Pakistan got excellent deal this time. They're playing every SENA countries at home condition and then away series against Bangladesh-Srilanka at sub-continent. Good chance to get on top of the list.

NZ got couple of tough opponent when playing away.



What? Not a single match between PAK and IND!

If only they could have scheduled one between the two teams, We haven't seen these two teams playing for a long time now. Hopefully they will play in the upcoming T20 WC.

@pakhitheboss in case you have forgotten India don’t play Pakistan, due to terror related issues which led the Indian Government banning all sport ties between the two. Also it’ll be interesting to see India vs Pakistan in the t20 World Cup, but I fear security reason may lead to cancellation of this match, what do you’ll think?.
2908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 29, 2021, 01:19:55 PM
Yes I lost my bet on Tsitsipas yesterday I was really expecting him to get past Tiafoe.

Andy Murray did well to get through in 4 sets, he will be happy with that I just hope the 4
sets didnt have any negative consequences for him.

2 bets on for today, Shapovalov to win against Kohlschreiber and Herbert to win against Andujar

Andy was 5:0 up in third set, and managed to lose seven gems in a row, with 40:15 in two his serving gems, it is pretty unbelievable for grass tournament
nevertheless, he managed to get fourth set and pass through, but I do not see him to hold into second week in any way

Djokovic lost first set, but he was actually late into the match, and when started he smashed Draper easily, it became a habit for him to lose first set and then start playing

I didn't know Andy Murray was still playing? He won his match yesterday in the first round of Wimbledon.



Tsitsipas losing to Tiafoe is a major surprise, yes. That's the problem with these new players contending for the top spots and Grand Slams. There is absolutely no consistency in their game, I don't remember Federer, Đoković or Nadal losing these kind of games. Tsitsipas didn't even get a set, these kind of performances are simply unacceptable if he wants to contest for the top spot and for the major prizes.

Đoković lost the 1st set but was dominant enough for my handicap to pass so thanks for that Nole Grin

For me a very big surprise that Tsitsipas clearly lost in 3 sets, who should now prevent Djokovic to win the tournament?

Andy murray keeps trying to comeback to the big stage but failed many times. Yesterday he leaded in 3rd set 5:0 and lost 5:7 and then won the fourth set
But i dont know how far he can come if someone serious goes against him honestly

I sometimes feel that we over estimate Tsitsipas a lot, and maybe he’s just yet not ready for this kind of pressure and it’ll take some more years before he becomes a legend. Also as far as Andy is concerned he’s looks to be in top form, and if he makes it to the semis then it’ll be considered a success for him, but I don’t expect him to win the title despite his recent form.
2909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! on: June 29, 2021, 09:17:11 AM
France itself is to blame for the defeat. Everything was in their hands. Win 3 - 1 during the match and then lose on penalties. Such a team is hardly worthy of a championship. You should always remember that the match lasts 90 minutes. France has a good team, but I think it's time to change the coach.

@kassex the coach definitely needs to explain why did he play with a back three, why ditch the winning formula and revert to a formation which wasn’t deployed earlier. Also the player’s need to take the fall for the defeat, because it felt like they were not motivated at all and hopefully the new coach will be able to motivate them to work harder.
2910  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun | 0.28% House edge | RED or BLACK|50% Chance to win|InstantWithraw on: June 29, 2021, 04:24:52 AM
Anybody facing any issue to visit blackjack.fun? I can not visit at this moment. It just show something like network error. If anybody facing the same situation like me plz let me here. So that I can be sure it does not only me .lol

And Yeah OP should take care of this issue if it is from site end. Thank You

Hie Sujo it's now up and running I think maybe they were upgrading or fixing the site. Because I can see Texas Holdem test tables are now available.
Ah, seems like that. And now it's also okay to me. That means maybe they are upgrading the texas holdem test version. And this also very good news for the blackjack.fun lover. As I know Texas holdem is also a popular game, right? But I have not much knowledge about this. Hopefully After playing testing version will have a idea about it.

@atomicarthuris just checked the site and I can confirm the site is indeed working well at my end, however if you’re yet facing issues just try opening it from a different browser or device and see if the issue yet persists, also clearing your browsers cache can also help.

There is so much to do. We will also have a Texas Holdem Tournaments, Freerolls and and different tables. First one will be No Limit Texas Holdem tables.
Great to hear that Texas Holdem is being added here along with tournaments etc. This move could boost the number of players in this site if executed properly.

As I know Texas holdem is also a popular game, right? But I have not much knowledge about this. Hopefully After playing testing version will have a idea about it.
Texas Holdem is one of the most popular variants of Poker and it's relatively easy to learn basically. It's possible to earn big money by colluding with other players though I usually avoid such stuff since I am a solo player.

@Haunebu indeed Texas Holdem tournaments shall be super fun, and beginners can make the use of the free rolls to get a hang of the site, and then I hope that they’ll actively participate in this tournament.
2911  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥Sportbook and Casino: BITSLER > $10,000 DAILY Wagering contest < on: June 28, 2021, 09:17:07 AM
Alright, a while ago, I noticed an "unfriendly" policy with regards to your affiliate program: Players being removed after a certain period of time etc. when "inactive" - you changed your wording on the site and assured me that this would only happen with players who didn`t deposit before.
According to the email as further as I have understood that they will not lock your account or balance if you log into the account. I don't know either it is applicable to all or not but in my country if we do not make any transaction within 6 months then the account will be marked as dormant. So, the action  of bitsler might be good too. And also I don't think it is impossible for a user to login into the site within 6 months of time. And in the same time they are sending notification before the action to make aware about the future action.

@efialtis this is a standard policy in the affliate industry as I too had my affliate account revoked on a hosting site, because I hadn’t logged in for many months hence I feel that you should just login once a month and keep your account safe.

Also this way the site will be able to eliminate less active player’s, and encourage player’s to be more active hence if you see form the sites perspective then this move totally makes sense.
2912  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: June 28, 2021, 04:48:24 AM
The challenges made by players at Rollbit are not made to be really challenging but more just as a joke in my opinion, while the challenges that are officially made by Rollbit must be legit because it concerns their reputation there is no way they will risk this business, especially since they are already able to attract whales play here then reputation is important.

I think they want to prioritize the interests of their customers. The owner is not stopping those who are creating almost impossible challenges, they are leaving it up to the players to decide what is possible and what is impossible. I have given my opinion on this challenge before and now I can see that everything is going on as before.

So it seems to me that Rollbit are positive enough about this challenge and they will not let their reputation be ruined, as they are prioritizing the interests of their customers.

@Strongkored I guess you’re not the only person who’s not happy with that challenge, but as others have rightly said there’s no other option but to skip it because there’s literally no way to compete in it so I guess it’s time to move on from that challenge discussion.

@ScamViruS whenever you want to make a casino listen to your feedback you should ask many users to share it, because individually they can ignore your concerns, but as I have often seen they do respond to collective feedback provided it’s a legit feedback and can be implemented.
2913  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: June 27, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
On my other account i play here from 2018 and never they ask me for ID.
But now on my new account, on first withdraw when i have 3500$ in my Account they ask for ID.

If you have read their T&C before you create your account, you should not be confused about this. Since you said that by creating another account you have been playing on their platform for several years without any problem. But now they want your ID for another account verification, to process the withdrawal.

So you have to understand here that since there was no problem in the previous account, then why is there a problem now? This means they have doubts about your activities or your fund so they want your ID. I think if you give them the right information they will process your withdrawal without any hassle.

Yeah correct that's why he needs to follow on what Cloudbet ask to him so that he can clarify all the verification process made since if all things clear for sure he will get his withdrawal without any interruption so for now he should comply and avoid using multiple accounts for any further hassle in future.
Ps.
Just now i offer support to talk on LIVE with me and them on Skype or any other way they say. I offer this because i want to show them am regular 34 years guy that love gambling on soccer,thats all . I can even show my id on this live talk so they can see its me, but i refuse to send this documents because i explain very good what i think.Its too much personal information, that i cannot agree to give to any website ,not only them.

It's all up to you and Cloudbet to figure out how to solve this problem. I know it's not safe to share personal information online, and people are more cautious about personal information when someone is involved with crypto.
But in some cases many people compromise a bit to find a solution, because you have to find a solution if you want to withdraw your funds. I hope you find a way to solve this problem soon.

I can even show my id on this live talk so they can see its me, but i refuse to send this documents because i explain very good what i think.Its too much personal information, that i cannot agree to give to any website ,not only them.
Crypto gambling sites usually ask for KYC if they find something suspicious or shady related to the account in question. This is usually specified in their TOS and your situation does seem shady in my opinion.

If you refuse to provide your KYC to them, your problem won't get resolved which is why the decision lies in your hands.

I guess we all have seen this kind of situation before, but the end conclusion is always the same either the user provides KYC and secures his fund or lose his funds by not providing KYC. Lastly I can understand why you don’t want to provide those details, but sadly you have no option so I would suggest you to reconsider and submit KYC details and end this saga.
2914  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sports - UFC Official Betting Partner - Play Smarter 🥊 on: June 27, 2021, 09:37:35 AM
We challenge you to get even bigger wins @FossyGFX Wink
I wish i had a big win like that because i am trying for years to win big and with amounts like these and i am yet to be lucky, i need to explore more games and hopefully win big. I had some big wins in your sister site but not in Stake and that too years ago. Cry

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Found it, thanks! Hopefully they repeat the promotion for tomorrow (Belgium vs Portugal). Always nice to have some extra insurance!
Hopefully that offer continues because today Italy and Austria went to extra time which i did not expect and insurance would be great in the upcoming matches Grin .

@7788bitcoin I have been trying to decode it unsuccessfully how these player’s win by wagering such small bets, and I tried wagering very small bets on dice manually and automatically, and then tried same on slots but both times it didn’t work, but I yet haven’t given up and I would encourage you to continue tinkering cause who knows you may just win it big.

Also I wouldn’t be surprised if England & Belgium games ended in a draw, its quiet a possibility hence taking this insurance is a must if it’s available.
2915  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♨️ WINDICE.io Contests TvT Progressive Faucet Jackpots ❤ on: June 27, 2021, 04:31:53 AM
The problem is this:

Many platforms (exchanges, gambling casinos, ...) explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs in their Terms of Use. This is not a big deal for gamers, you can still use the services via VPN.

But now imagine you are extremely lucky and win 2 BTC and want to withdraw them. With such sums, manual checks are usually in play where it is then also immediately found out that you are using a VPN. The withdrawal process is then blocked and your user is banned.

This is unpleasant for casinos, but not too tragic, since you have probably only invested a small amount of your own money. But imagine that with an exchange, where you can no longer withdraw your hard-earned BTC ...
So, the question here is this; should you not gamble at all because using vpn is totally not allowed at all? Or should you still gamble with vpn? I mean there is no option of gambling without vpn in my nation, if there was one I would follow that rule and say that I do not use vpn and just continue with whatever I want, gamble anywhere I want, it is just allowed right? But since it is not allowed at all and it is totally banned, that means either I will use vpn or I will not gamble at all, those are the only options.

There is nothing wrong with using vpn and putting in tiny amounts, most places now accept coins with very low fee, there are even places that accept tron which could be free when using like 10 bucks, which means you can put money in that you think will not matter to you, in that case if I am completely banned then I just lose a tiny amount.

The usage of VPN is not prohibited on windice.

I believe most casinos allow VPN at least the ones I had asked in chat told me it’s allowed, and now even Windice has confirmed it’s allowed, but if you use vpn you use it at great risk because if that IP address was used with a multi account player one’s funds could get blocked. Furthermore if you’re from a country where you’re not supposed to access the site using a vpn won’t solve your issue, because if they find it then they’ll have a right to block your funds hence use vpn only if it’s actually required.
2916  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 26, 2021, 01:58:15 PM
Furthermore, DPLAY - the custodial FUN Token casino - has been announced and will be launched soon.

I hope DPLAY - the custodial FUN Token casino can attract many players to play.

How will these events affect the price of FUN Token by the end of July? At the time of writing, FUN trades at $0.017.

I don't remember the USD value of the FUN Token that I bought because all of them bought on FB in satoshi value, but what is certain if I compared at the deposit I made to buy the token,my investment still in minus.

@Strongkored the price of fun tokens has never picked up, at least from what I have observed they have been sinking downwards only. However I’m not concerned as I had decided to keep them at least for 2 year’s, because that should give this project enough time to give us good revenues.
2917  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: June 26, 2021, 09:27:49 AM
Dude, I won that freaking free bet on June 17/18 so it is now one week and it looks like they broke that terms, but I don't really care that much about $50 free bet and they can give it to someone else.
I don't know what to tell you mate except that it happens. Undecided

My bets have been under review or security checks twice if I remember correctly. They usually finish it within 24 hours in my experience. You can always PM Tornike and ask him to look into it for you. As long as there is no abuse, you are going to be fine. Maybe they noticed similar predictions on another account and they want to make sure that something fishy isn't going on. Just hang in there. Smiley

@notblox1 I believe your winning got caught in their automatic cheat filter, and that’s why it went back on hold again (this happens in various casinos and I believe this process is automatic).

However if you’re legit then you should just give them some more time as rightly suggested by others and even I’ll repeat it, because they’ll pay your winnings if you’re legit, but in the meantime you can also do as @Pmalek has rightly suggest and send a pm to Tornike because that should definitely help speed up the process.
2918  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io- Club House- The best EURO 2021 promotions around!!🚀 on: June 26, 2021, 04:23:49 AM

I think only 2 matches is a bit difficult to predict, I mean each team has the same ability: Belgium v Portugal and England v Germany
For other matches it seems that almost everyone agrees or at least they have 60% chance to pass.

@Text while everyone believes that England is the favourite team, however on the ground both teams look equal to me and hence the big question is which player will seal the victory for his team. As far as Belgium is concerned it’s indeed a tricky game, because Ronaldo yet has the firepower to destroy them if he’s in the mood to do so hence I’m in two minds about wagering on these two fixtures, but have you selected your teams or you’ll do it during live play?.
2919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 25, 2021, 01:33:23 PM
Indeed, their names are not as famous as Juve, Milan, Inter or Roma. But Atalanta are a good team, they don't have many stars but they can finish better than Juventus. Remember in 2019 Atalanta qualified for the UCL knockout stage. If I'm not mistaken at that time Atalanta only used players who, in total, equaled half of Ronaldo's salary. This is proof that Atalanta should not be underestimated, they are a strong team. I don't know for next season but buying new players is an option to strengthen.
Atalanta only were beaten by the very late goal from PSG and they almost won that match till very late minutes. It is the season Atalanta appeared in the Champions League and made big shocks but more surprisingly, they did not fall to a downside after that.

2 seasons later, they are still playing at the top of Serie A, it is very impressive and they ended the last season at 3rd position without Papu Gomez. The ex captain had big role in Atalanta tactics and it is so surprising to see Atalanta kept up the good work without Papu in the whole season. It proves that Atalanta can move forward well and won't depend on a single player.

@SquirrelJulietGarden there’s no doubt about the potential of Atlanta player’s, but now to grow they should reinvest in the market and try and challenge harder for the title rather than just be happy finishing in top 10. Furthermore I hope they don’t sell anymore player’s, cause to achieve success during this season they need to retain their core player’s.
2920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa Conference League Discussion Thread on: June 25, 2021, 09:14:04 AM
Thank you cygan for the update of teams, I'll add it into OP for that, and what's strange for me in fact is that I actually recognise at least 1 name from each group;) Maybe Europa League has crept into my mind, or betting on those games that played on during Covid lockdown!

My personal picks: Batumi (Georgia), Wroclaw (Poland), Yereven (Armenia) -- all have been very good to me in betting haha:)

@buwaytress, thanks for making this thread, I was looking for it Wink.
Personally, I don't like idea of this tournament. I call it Europa League for peasants. Yes, this tournament gives chances for clubs from small league to play in Europe. Even teams from my country have fairly good chances to reach group stage. But on the other hand, this tournament had closed doors to Europa League for many clubs and leagues. As said above by @mv1986, good teams from Greece, cyprus or Switzerland now are separated from elite.
There is some big clubs like Spurs or Roma who will have to play there. It's interesting what attitude towards this tournament they will have. I doubt that their are going to play with main squads there.
Conference League games will be played on Thursdays, same as Europa league. I doubt that many neutral fans is going to watch it, unless you're supporter of team which play there.

You're welcome:) I was asked to, and well, maybe we get a unique breed of supporters in here from countries not normally in Champs League? I know if my country were in a popular thread I'd be even more active! Where are you from?

I had no idea we wouldn't be seeing Greece or Switzerland in Europa, which sounds strange but absolutely right now I check the qualification routes! Imagine Basel and Young Boys out of Europa? Panathinaikos, wow. But prize money wise, it's almost the same and these "big" teams might feel they have a better chance to win in Conference? Maybe they don't argue as much.

@buwaytress it would be nice if you regularly post detailed updates about the team you plan to wager on, cause I barely know teams in this league and not many here look like they’ll be wagering in this league. Also about the money part what if the fans give it a miss, then won’t UEFA have to reconsider the status of this league or the league has enough cash to run despite the poor response from the fans.
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