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29001  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Power Supply some might be interested in. on: August 10, 2016, 04:10:53 AM
The video shows a shut down and reboot button on the app?

I'm not sure what your question is - Windows already lets you reboot and shutdown, there's no magic to that.  It's literally just their app sending the command - it's not something special about their PSU.  If you could remote power ON the device, then that would be much more interesting, but also much more difficult. 

In the PDU model, you could configure the system to auto-start on power loss, and you can toggle the power on and off to the outlet (assuming it's a managed PDU).  This is radically different than what they're offering - it's literally just an app to allow you to remote reboot or shutdown your machine.  You could do that using TeamViewer or any number of other things...

Now they've also added monitoring of the PSU state, like voltage levels, fan speed, temps - and those are interesting, but at least in my experience I've never had a fan fail, and if I'm pushing a PSU, I'm not going to use some consumer grade one... So these are of marginal value (at least to my mind).



Well if you only have 120 volts it is good.

Last year newegg sent me a smart plug.  That let me power off and on.

Nice item even let me use 240 volts.

But it got hot to the touch so I rated it with three stars.

My pdus allow off and power on from a pc remotely . 
29002  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S7 & PSU with warranty for only $320/miner on: August 10, 2016, 02:34:07 AM
  Lets face it  we all know about bitmaintech and the warranty issues they have.

@ bitmaintech  here is a suggestion offer no warranty option  and if a buyer takes it give he a coupon to use on a future miner.  If the buy wants the  warranty don't give them a coupon.

This way  the buyer will not take you up on the warranty problems you have.  Since you don't honor them anyway.

I certainly would rather buy an s-9 with no warranty  and you give me a 10% coupon on my next s-9.
Then no one is in suspense about the warranty.

I would think you see that ETH and ETC are doing pretty well.

Mostly many people like buying from
 intel
amd
 nvidia
samsung
western digital

to get mining gear with real warranties.

A very good   eth rig costs less then your s-9 ,uses less power ,earns btc faster , runs quieter, has a real warranty.
29003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Hashrate RX 470 on: August 10, 2016, 02:21:59 AM
my sapphire nitro arrived today  4gb 2 fan version it gives me 21.5 mh

I have a two card rig with a reference 8gb 480 and the 4gb  sapphire nitro

combined hash rate is 47 mh  power at my Kill-o-watt meter is 310 watt  this is a hot meter it reads high.

my other meter reads 295 watts

So Phil you thinking about 110 watts ISH for the 470?  How are the temps?  I just ordered a 8gb 470 Nitro so I am hoping the power figures are comparable to the 370's.

I ran it alone and did 152-159 watts on the hot meter  entire system

so 110 watts and 21-22 mh is a fair guess.

I think it is better at mh per watt then the 480's by a little.
this came in today and is what I am testing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202229
this comes tomorrow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202230
29004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which is more profitable? on: August 10, 2016, 02:16:04 AM
I wanted to get into mining some altcoins about a year ago and I really wish I did start mining Etherium.
It seems so risky now. After the fork, all the turmoil and everything that has happened...

Maybe mining ETC is still profitable but I feel like unless you can predict another alt-coin that will go up in value,
you are probably going to be making just a few dollars a month for a large investment, and the ROI will be a while.
(Depends on how much disposable income you have and how long you can wait to get it back I guess.)

Interested in Philipma1957 or someone with a similar setup on how long the ROI for your $1600 is.

well you need to know I earn 850 a month and spend 250 on power.

so 600 a month . I have 3 rigs so 4800  .

so 8 x 600 = 4800  but all my rigs have 1,2,3,5 year warranties  on various parts. and all parts keep resale value far better then an basic does.

my earnings are based on 18 cent power thats right and to mine a profit  at 18 cent power is hard to do with an basic.

My power drops to 9 cents on oct 1st so I go from 250 for power to 125 for power.
The key is how long does it last?
29005  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Hashrate RX 470 on: August 10, 2016, 12:16:12 AM
my sapphire nitro arrived today  4gb 2 fan version it gives me 21.5 mh

I have a two card rig with a reference 8gb 480 and the 4gb  sapphire nitro

combined hash rate is 47 mh  power at my Kill-o-watt meter is 310 watt  this is a hot meter it reads high.

my other meter reads 295 watts
29006  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: difficulty finally dropping like expected- dramatically. on: August 10, 2016, 12:09:35 AM
we are dropping so most likely bitmaintech put in all their new s-9's  and are now bundling up their  old s-7s'



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1580285.0

ant miner s-7's at 320 with a psu.

so some low power cost guy will buy some the rest will sit and do nothing.

my guess is we end up plus 5%  and then go flat next pair of jumps
29007  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: August 09, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
Caanan's got their new shop up and running...got a note from Jon a bit earlier using their new GUI for ordering, etc. Looks nice, seems to work well. New A6 on the way...hopefully more after that. All sorts of "new" today.

Mine on.

Any further information regarding new hardware that you were privy to that you can't share with us? Not asking for any specifics, just that there is something on the way. Thanks.

I'm chomping at the bit to buy something that doesn't have bitmain's name on it!  Grin
I'd take a guess at next month Smiley

looking forward to adding something to the solar array.
29008  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 04:32:59 PM
If sufficient number of bitcoiners start running graphic cards in support of etc-eth (and they/we probably do this kind of thing already judging by some here), what may stop developers to release a "GPU only"-fork for bitcoin?
This is basically a sword of Damocles that they have over Chinese miner farms and pools.
People will switch their gear from etc-eth to btc if ASICs are ruled out, I think.
It probably would be the best, anyway.


I don't think it is possible to prevent ASICs from ever being used to mine. LTC was suppose to be mined by not ASICs however after a while, companies invested in R&D necessary to manufacture ASICs because there would be enough demand because the value of LTC was high enough.

I think the same would probably happen if the mining algo were to change for Bitcoin.


it would set the asic builders backwards for a long time.

If you added a dag file over 4gb it would force you to have 8gb gpus. That would mean costly development for asic builders.
Better yet if you made it that 2x 8gb cards in crossfire would be the next change after 1x 8gb gpu card was the first change as soon as the the new asic came out switch to the 2 x 8gb  algo  so   the entire time spent building an asic  to mine the 'new' btc would  have been wasted.
  I am pretty much ready for an attack against asic building companies.  I have a lot invested in s-9's  but frankly  if they were rendered useless for btc  I switch them over to another 256 coin. I got back a decent amount already from my s-9's

BTC  has a lot of real problems at this time.  I don't like the asic lock on the coin. As I see it harming expansion of BTC.

As interesting and appealing as this sounds, changing Bitcoin's proof of work algorithm seems pretty unlikely. That change is far more contentious than the other contemplated changes, like block size expansion.

If the PoW were to change, ASIC companies and the miners that have invested in them would resist it. There would be two Bitcoins, like Eth/Etc today. The original SHA256 algorithm would be much more secure because they would have way more hash power. That would only change if an overwhelming number of people adopt the new algorithm.

If the new PoW algorithm caught on, then the ASIC manufacturers would move to support it. I don't believe it's possible to create an algorithm that cannot be implemented more efficiently in hardware. If there's enough financial incentive, ASICs designers will find a way.

Basically this would be a replay of SHA256 with the only effect of a reset for a few years. But in the end there would still be two Bitcoin chains, end-user confusion, merchant adoption would be hampered, and there would probably be less investment from VC's because the double chain mess would make Bitcoin investment even more risky. Bitcoin's first mover network effect advantage might even be lost to an alt.

I don't see this happening at all. There's too much at stake for the current Bitcoin movers and shakers to allow this.

Instead there will always be alts, like Eth/Etc, some of which will be profitable enough to draw miners away.


  I bolded what I believe will happen to BTC due to asic control in the hands of a few companies.

If I was a big money guy  I would prefer a gpu coin over an asic coin.  Unless Amd, Nividia or Intel were selling the asic gear.

Plain and simple the fail is not on BTC as much as it is on asic companies.  

I see a lot of green blood split over this.  As in fiat cash.


oh look here


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1580285.0

you think there is a link?




29009  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 02:04:23 PM
If sufficient number of bitcoiners start running graphic cards in support of etc-eth (and they/we probably do this kind of thing already judging by some here), what may stop developers to release a "GPU only"-fork for bitcoin?
This is basically a sword of Damocles that they have over Chinese miner farms and pools.
People will switch their gear from etc-eth to btc if ASICs are ruled out, I think.
It probably would be the best, anyway.


I don't think it is possible to prevent ASICs from ever being used to mine. LTC was suppose to be mined by not ASICs however after a while, companies invested in R&D necessary to manufacture ASICs because there would be enough demand because the value of LTC was high enough.

I think the same would probably happen if the mining algo were to change for Bitcoin.


it would set the asic builders backwards for a long time.

If you added a dag file over 4gb it would force you to have 8gb gpus. That would mean costly development for asic builders.
Better yet if you made it that 2x 8gb cards in crossfire would be the next change after 1x 8gb gpu card was the first change as soon as the the new asic came out switch to the 2 x 8gb  algo  so   the entire time spent building an asic  to mine the 'new' btc would  have been wasted.
  I am pretty much ready for an attack against asic building companies.  I have a lot invested in s-9's  but frankly  if they were rendered useless for btc  I switch them over to another 256 coin. I got back a decent amount already from my s-9's

BTC  has a lot of real problems at this time.  I don't like the asic lock on the coin. As I see it harming expansion of BTC.
29010  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: August 09, 2016, 01:56:22 PM
Just a little bit of a push..

 Say  5 in eight hours  and we could be all green again.


https://i.imgur.com/ijsfKtr.png


we already ALL GREEN now Grin




I "MAY" be color-blind, but the 100-block field is still black to me. Otherwise, various shades of green. Would like to see it ALL LIME GREEN!  Cheesy

But to be diplomatic, it IS closer to a green-black than a red-black! Wink
we are close to all green.  lime green across the board is very rare  but we have done it

29011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I want a dedicated ETC miner on: August 09, 2016, 01:46:19 PM
Don't go for 6 cards for your first farm. Too much trouble, really. With each card consuming in excess of 200W, you'll need a very expensive 1500W PSU adjusted for efficiency. Go for 3 or 4 cards and a high quality 1000W PSU. Those pro miners with 6-card rigs opt usually for two interconnected PSUs.

Some truth to this idea.  A new miner should try two cards on that six card rig.

Get used to it then a third and fourth.

The big six card rigs can drive you crazy with stability rigs.

I have five two card rigs and a four card rig.

This week I will build a four card rig.
29012  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 01:40:45 PM
If sufficient number of bitcoiners start running graphic cards in support of etc-eth (and they/we probably do this kind of thing already judging by some here), what may stop developers to release a "GPU only"-fork for bitcoin?
This is basically a sword of Damocles that they have over Chinese miner farms and pools.
People will switch their gear from etc-eth to btc if ASICs are ruled out, I think.
It probably would be the best, anyway.



I have become anti-asic.  This idea is pretty good.  BTC-GPU  


Here is my thought plain and simple.

Intel
AMD
Nvidia     as my suppliers of gear.   Vs  Bitmaintech and Avalon

1, 2, 3 year real warranties vs 90 day fuck you warranties.

Actual real world use of the gear for shit other then mining.

Lastly since the pc is mining how about a bonus if you run a node. Say 0.5% extra for running a node.

China needs a good dose of reality about BTC. The current setup is not good for the game.

I like the way you think. 


I have four s-9s. But frankly my pc gpu rigs mining eth and or etc are making more money .  They cost lest to build they use less power and they have long warranties
29013  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 12:50:00 PM
If sufficient number of bitcoiners start running graphic cards in support of etc-eth (and they/we probably do this kind of thing already judging by some here), what may stop developers to release a "GPU only"-fork for bitcoin?
This is basically a sword of Damocles that they have over Chinese miner farms and pools.
People will switch their gear from etc-eth to btc if ASICs are ruled out, I think.
It probably would be the best, anyway.



I have become anti-asic.  This idea is pretty good.  BTC-GPU  


Here is my thought plain and simple.

Intel
AMD
Nvidia     as my suppliers of gear.   Vs  Bitmaintech and Avalon

1, 2, 3 year real warranties vs 90 day fuck you warranties.

Actual real world use of the gear for shit other then mining.

Lastly since the pc is mining how about a bonus if you run a node. Say 0.5% extra for running a node.

China needs a good dose of reality about BTC. The current setup is not good for the game.
29014  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 04:56:17 AM
I wonder if the spike in estimated difficulty has anything to do with the recent meeting between the Blockstream core devs and the chinese mining pools. At first glance (and if memory serves me correctly), it looks like the Chinese pools are possibly loosing market share compared to what they had very recently.

I believe that there were reports that the blockstream core devs were threatening to quit if the Chinese pools were to start supporting a HF that involves increasing the maximum block size -- or something along those lines (I am unsure as to the reliability of these reports though).

I wonder if the blockstream core devs are possibly running some of their mining equipment (possibly at a loss) on non-chinese pools (and solo mining) in an effort to show the Chinese pools "who is boss". If this is true, then I wonder how long this can, or will last.

Not sure but I don't think this jump makes economic sense.

I have been complaining about btc transaction limit .

We do an average of 300,000 a day with a max of just under 700,000 possible with perfect numbers.

So to have liquid btc we use exchanges.  And we just had Bitfinex 'lose' 60 million in btc .

Btc with a no fork rule won't lock those coins via fork.  So they stay lost.  Btc won't make more room via fork for more transactions so we need to use exchanges .  Exchanges get hacked  and btc does not protect against the theft.

Eth-eth had a hack or exploit boom crushed it via fork.

Btc is sucking its own cock feels good but leads to nothing.

I see a big move to etc-eth

I buy all real company gear with real warranties . Sold by real sellers like Amazon or newegg.

And if there is an exploit the developers make moves to save the day.

So if you have solid money to invest seven figures eth-etc looks viable.

Now if btc makes a block size adjustment that allows a lot more transactions per day then  maybe it does okay.

If not we are good to see a snap crackle pop happen
29015  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 04:17:13 AM
My bitfinex account was reduced in ETC and in ETH
What does it mean?  So far I don't know  but if I ever get into it instead of looking at it I will pull the ETH.

Leave the ETC  and the BFX
This is why I hold everything on a Trezor. I only use exchanges as briefly as possible to buy and sell coin.

can you easily pay from that Trezor thingie? The description is kind of open to interpretation and/or opaque.
I also looked at Ledger Nano S. Anybody uses that one?


I have 4 hdds clones  with the same bt core  wallet  all off line set to boot any of my mac minis. just hook up one on any of the minis boot wait for synch and you are set.


  so keeping larger coin amounts  safe  is not a problem.  but I always float 1-3 coins on line between four or five spots.

29016  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: (hacked) S7LN Group Buy on: August 09, 2016, 04:12:04 AM
mine just runs


mmpool.org


Rank   Id   DGM Estimate   PPS   Shares   Rate (MHash/s)
1   0dfd19ac   5.30968299   0.47333532   48,188,418,755   0
2   c03a6b93   2.99337209   0.31473990   33,354,961,214   0
3   540f7f8c   2.98924310   0.19911573   26,170,348,147   0


4   c932f3ed   1.68813834   0.14595275   16,179,046,452   2,064,639  this is mine


5   dad84f7a   0.77519573   0.08385544   8,971,649,617   3,473,198
29017  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 03:33:42 AM
My bitfinex account was reduced in ETC and in ETH
What does it mean?  So far I don't know  but if I ever get into it instead of looking at it I will pull the ETH.

Leave the ETC  and the BFX

I don't have any direct experience because I didn't use Bitfinex. But according to posts on Reddit it sounds like they're giving everyone a haircut in order to avoid bankruptcy.

I think I read that they're taking 36% of all user accounts, even those that were completely unaffected.

It's really quite a mess. Their customers are paying the price for poor security choices, but that's better than forcing them into bankruptcy and waiting 5 years to get even less back.

This is why I hold everything on a Trezor. I only use exchanges as briefly as possible to buy and sell coin.

I don't usually have more then .5 coin  say 300 usd on any exchange but   I was over limit and got burned.  Have to see what the burn is.  all is 700 ⅓ is about 233 .  I think they have me at 239 usd loss.  If I only lose 239  I can start prizes back next jump at 25 usd and by christmas my loss will be made up.

If I loss it all (700)  I will stop prizes for a few more jumps Say 6 in all that is 300 bucks    then go to 25 a jump for 16   and by late spring the loss will be made up.
29018  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling some r9 390's xfx on: August 09, 2016, 02:36:07 AM
i need 6 of these, how many you have for sale?

sold them.
29019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Undervolting R9 cards, which versions work best? on: August 09, 2016, 01:39:06 AM
Is there a list or a way to tell if an AMD card can be undervolted before buying it?

no but  you could buy mine


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579698.0


all are the same and they all under volt.


and you  could get then new from best buy


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-amd-radeon-r9-390-8gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-gray/8278117.p?id=1219690434699&skuId=8278117


if you use  amd 16.7.2  and claymore miner they  will do 27-30 mh with undervolt.

the amd settings have overdrive  for r9's and wattman for rx 480s

29020  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 2 to Aug 16. Picks are yet to start. prize =0.00 on: August 09, 2016, 01:21:12 AM
My bitfinex account was reduced in ETC and in ETH
What does it mean?  So far I don't know  but if I ever get into it instead of looking at it I will pull the ETH.

Leave the ETC  and the BFX


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