Ethereum price is preventing me to try some more bets on Vdice. I'm on the wait and see balcony because I did that mistake once (with Bitcoin). I prefer to keep my eth while they keep marching.
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Nice uptrend and volume. My Bay bought during the infamous Bter ICO now value more than 3 years ago. I've never sold them which probably makes me a believer in this coin and in the work of everybody worked for this. Now let's move on! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Finally, miners already have full control. They have the ultimate say. That is how Bitcoin works. That is how it is structured. They do the proof-of-work. They decide what is valid and what is not valid. Of course, the other full nodes have some leverage, and users have some economic influence. But in the end, whether you like it or not, miners decide.
Considering how mining is run these days this is the most annoying thing of the whole story. I would give a million different reason why not to leave such power to mining pools but hey, I'm neither a miner, nor a running a node. I'm a stupid bitcoin user who is at the mercy of this awful situation
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This could be the right time to catch who is losing faith in bitcoin. I'm personally very worried for bitcoin's future for the first time. As I said somewhere else either someone is manipulating and rigging all this game the way they want or, really, the bitcoin community is totally nuts and we need to move onto new things such as BitBay
I think the absolute failure of Bitcoin's keepers to agree on a method of expanding the block size coupled with the centralization of mining in China is starting to take it's toll. Also, projects like Bay can do so much more then just provide monetary value. Bitcoin is a rudderless ship in a sea of competition. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10028I filed an issue, but they closed it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh the ego is a mighty thing... they refuse to confront the elephant in the room - their own reflections. Wow, this is just ridiculous. Look, they closed and locked it. Without responding to my long, well thought out comment on the security of the issue of the bug, they locked and and thus I cannot comment on it. This self-appointed confederacy of dunces is responsible for preventing technological advancement. They are making a big issue out of something small and then blame the Bitcoin community for lack of consensus when in reality they are the ones blocking change. If they really were responsive to forums as they claim, they would have merged the bug fix 2 years ago because that is how long the community has asked for it. Look how the Linux community works. Linus Torvalds is there to give guidance when needed: he deserves to be there since his merits speak for himself. But what to the bitcoin "community"? I see no community anymore just supporters waiting for the next football game. The bitcoin community is made of hooligans pushing their agenda forward. The ones who dreamt at the beginning are now losing touch
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Math works very well when there's little to none human intervention. Flowers, waters, trees don't need us if they follow Nature.
I supposed Bitcoin was like that: give math control and forget about the rest. I was wrong.
There is no math in bitcoin anymore, no more nature only f****** politics pollution.
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Torino - Inter seems a very interesting game to watch this evening: it has the potential for many goals. My pick is over 3,5 goals Milan - Genoa, on the other hand, will be a bit of a boring game with Milan winning easily, maybe 2 - 0
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This could be the right time to catch who is losing faith in bitcoin. I'm personally very worried for bitcoin's future for the first time. As I said somewhere else either someone is manipulating and rigging all this game the way they want or, really, the bitcoin community is totally nuts and we need to move onto new things such as BitBay
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) really no comment why do we have to lose such a beautiful thing like this? I'm starting to be tired of all this shit going on. It looks like kindergarten for God's sake
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The bad actors have created the fake civil war on purpose. It's about 20% real.
Bitcoin XT and Mike Hearn, Bitcoin Classic and Gavin, Bitcoin Unlimited and Roger Ver.
Three attempts to take-over development with a woefully inadequate support from programmers. Each attack has failed on technical measures before even fooling enough people. Each time they spun up fake nodes on VPS's to mimic support.
The three characters above were once great assets to the Bitcoin community but have become compromised, blackmail, payments or who knows what - but they are being led around by the balls, or truly idiots.
First they ignore you. <--- all other crypto/altcoins are still hereThen they laugh at you. Then they fight you. <--- Bitcoin is here nowThen you win. People don't realize that 'they' (the powers that be) are now circling Bitcoin like sharks, trying desperately in whatever ways they can to slow it down, set it back, or kill it forever. 'They' have run out of physical/technical ways to try and hinder or bring down Bitcoin (e.g., 0day bugs/hacks, DDoS, MtGox insolvency, exchanges hacked and/or going offline, FUD/negative news, etc.) Now they only have one real play left: Social Engineering. They load up the forums with shills/trolls, trying to split the community and sway public opinion against Bitcoin in general. They prop up and promote other alt coins now as "Bitcoin 2.0" and "way better". They string along and stall a Bitcoin ETF ruling for years, only to deny it at the 11th hour and laugh. They have even managed to gaslight former prominent Bitcoin proponents like Gavin, Roger, Mike, and big Chinese miners with false information or outright bullshit (Craig Wright is Satoshi, anyone?). Once this line of BS fails, and it will, the next wave will be direct head-to-head Bitcoin competition: Gov't sponsored/endorsed Bankcoins, and eventually Bankcoin ETFs.Believe it. You read it here first. Elegantly put, excellent reasoning. Well done Torque. Let's make it sticky and let's move onto the next leg up while the rest need to catch up onto it. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Last time it happened there were no announcements also: there should be a news/info section on main site which stores and gives updates such as this time.
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I'm not a Bitcoin messiah but there's plenty of space within this forum to discuss about alternative coins trading. This is the wall observer thread for bitcoin, let's keep it this way.
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This last page is all is needed if someone wanted reasons to invest in BitBay. David and Munti answers to matt608 are there to be read for those who have eyes to read. Thanks guys! oh, by the way, price is finally going steadily up
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Will be more distribution rounds?
Yes, there will be a distribution on every full moon until all bytes and blackbytes are distributed. The snapshot for the next round #4 will be on 11 April 06:08 UTC. I don't have much time to watch things closely but are there any applications based on byteball (regulated assets, decentralized storage etc.)? To me conditional payments are a great step forward and I hope devs will start looking into them
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Nice, that's cool. This seems really on of the most interesting dapps out there. I must admit now it's a bit of a risk to bet while eth is gaining traction. I would like to understand where the price will be before playing again. Interesting times here
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Market seems to react somewhat predictably to distributions.
My guess is the price will decline until near all are distributed.
For this reason I probably will not be buying anytime soon and will just accumulate via distribution.
But that doesn't mean Byteball isn't awesome!
I'm sorry to say the there's no such thing as predictability here. Compared with Bytes distributed the volume is too low to say anything about market trends. I would wait a bit more to make any predictions. By the way, I do agree that Byteball is awesome
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I was pretty amazed my first bet even though I lost. This is really a very exciting way to play without the need to leave coins on third parties
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Very nice, this is getting really interesting from my point of view. It also seems the the dumpers are out af coins and so the price can finally find its way up. We really need to start promoting real-world use of double deposit escrow, smart contracts and so forth. We could come up with a cool idea, develop it on BitBay and tell it to the world out there. I mean, they want working stuff out there ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We shall give it to them ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Yeah I think we are getting very close to that stage of development. Heck... just look at your signature advertising ^^^ BitBay will be perfect for creating peer to peer trustless gaming contracts similar to your V-Dice Dapp. And there is no need to dilute your investment capital in "tokens" required to use any sort of Dapp (in general). With BitBay you will be able to use BitBay to transact with the python contract game or app. That way you won't have to 'ethertize' your investment capital through exchange slippage and spread losses, just so you can try out a new Dapp by first buying their tokens. I'm sure if a creator of a python custom programmed peer to peer contract might want to earn some money for his coding, he could add it into the program as a BitBay service fee - or not. But the point is these custom python contracts won't create reason to spawn countless, various tokens in the process, keeping a strong focal point for demand in BitBay and nothing else. Yes I agree: just to clarify, that's not "my V-Dice Dapp"
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We really need to start promoting real-world use of double deposit escrow, smart contracts and so forth. We could come up with a cool idea, develop it on BitBay and tell it to the world out there. I mean, they want working stuff out there ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We shall give it to them ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes, if there was any need to confirm that we got some maturity in the btc market well now it's confirmed. We had all the eyes of the financial world on us and the big fellas expected a big drop to come onboard without the etf but they got it wrong. As we usually say around here: GO BTC GO!
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