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2921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: USELESS HEATER : ANTMINER D3 , WHAT IS NEXT ? on: November 06, 2017, 11:39:15 PM
I don't know why people are getting angry at Bitmain for delivering them bricks when they aren't realising that it's a risk in the first place and people say this all the time. Or I'm just dumb and mining is always 100% profitable 100% of the time. Nobody can predict the future, just because the L3 was successful doesn't mean the D3 would be as well. It's a good learning experience more than anything, too many people think mining is riskless nowadays.
2922  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Ebit e9 miner with 6.8Th/s from Ebang company a new rival for existing producers on: November 06, 2017, 11:36:18 PM
wire transfer only was disappointing. was hoping to buy with BTC. kinda shows a lack of faith in there product that they wont accept it as payment.

Its not a lack of faith in their product, its the fact that their government has made it very difficult to exchange BTC to fiat. Same reason Bitmain seems to have moved to Bitcoin Cash only.
That's probably not the only reason behind them moving to Cash. Considering they were also one of the main proponents of the fork in the first place they probably want to keep their political experiment alive at least until S2X launches. Without Bitmain accepting BCH it'd be dead.
2923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Newbie Q- Ethernet Connection to Antminer L3+ using Powerline Adapter on: November 06, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
Good to hear. Are you using a TP Link?
I used to use a mix of TP-Links, Netgear and Actiontec adapters. Two pairs of tplinks randomly died but the rest of them all worked fine. Actiontecs can be found really cheap on Newegg refurbished sometimes, and if you have BTC you can purchase em with your btc there.
2924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 1050 Ti Single fan or dual? on: November 06, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
Dual fan cards usually have better temps but in most cases the difference is tiny especially with the low power 1050ti. With the 1060s you need to worry about the shitty heatsinks EVGA puts on some of their 1060s but any card should work. They'll all hash about the same out of the box with binning and factory overclocks differentiating some of them.
2925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Newbie Q- Ethernet Connection to Antminer L3+ using Powerline Adapter on: November 06, 2017, 08:43:27 PM
I used powerline to connect my farm from the basement to garage and pretty much every single adapter worked fine with no noticeable problems, even the refurb units. Just make sure they are plugged in directly into the wall with no power strip.


Miners hardly use any bandwidth and I've had no problems with connection noise or dropouts. Dial-up is enough to keep miners online so unless packets are constantly dropped any connection works. If you have an adapter with LEDs showing connection speed red or orange is just fine for miners. For PCs maybe not so much.
2926  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: How is everyone small+big miners protecting the miners from Surge & Fault? on: November 06, 2017, 08:39:53 PM
I've never had any such problem happen, just used a surge protector strip and no PDU or any fancy equipment people use nowadays. Just keep your miners away from carpeting or any possibly flammable material (PSUs too) so in the event of a catastrophic failure your miner doesn't burn the whole house down. Unless you barely know how to plug in anything or the miner you buy just happens to be unreliable like the S9 there shouldn't be issues.
2927  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Is it possible to make a heater with mining hardware ? on: November 06, 2017, 01:56:00 PM
Haha so it does have the potential to be used to heat a room ?
What kind of hardware would provide the best experience in terms of noise and durability of the material ?
The S3 is really the only reliable and quiet SHA256 miner available at the moment that can be used for a heater. Everything else is loud or unreliable and sold out (R4, don't buy it). They're built like tanks, super reliable and can be fit pretty much anywhere (under a desk, in the garage, etc). Plus you can swap out fans for even quieter operation if needed since the S3 didn't utilize particularly loud and powerful fans for operation.
2928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Xeon Mining on: November 06, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
I have 5 dual xeon E5-2690 (2x 20MB so 40MB cache total) running Ubuntu and wanted to give mining a shot. (have free electricity)
I tried monero and get close to 1,000h/s from each server running 20 threads each for a total of 5,000h/s from all servers. Is that good?
Tried xmrig and stak-cpu with same results (large pages enabled)
Am i better off mining a different coin like zcash or Aeon?

Thank you for any suggestions

I think your best option would be to continue in XMR after all you got a very good mining power considering that CPU's are a little old

I tried mining XMR with an i7 3630QM and reached close to 80h / s with the 8 nucles
Laptops don't exactly have great cooling and your particular model of CPU isn't the most efficient either. Xeons and Opterons actually.mine pretty well for the price (you can find Opterons for sub $30 used but mobos are a little more), and so that's why most people don't buy more modern CPUs just for mining.
2929  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: November 06, 2017, 01:50:02 PM
Is it worth buying S9 now ??

Dudes are constantly posting this everywhere in the forums - is mining profitable in such and such an date on such and such a machine? Is an S9/741/GPU/CPU/Raspberry Pi profitable to mine on yesterday / today / tomorrow?

You can't do anything more than guess at mining revenues beyond a couple difficulty cycles anyway, so ROI calculation is pretty useless. Cost of electricity is far less important than the anticipated exchange rate of BTC at a certain time in the future - that is really the only metric that matters. I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now, because they were using the entirely wrong metric to calculate ROI.

Along with up front investment and operational costs, you have to have a target goal for the exchange price of BTC built into your calculations. When we setup our farm earlier this year, mining at the current price of BTC (about $ 1600) + the price of electricity looked pretty dubious on paper. But when we set a target price of $10,000/BTC for Fall of 2018, the notion became quite profitable in theory. Nothing like BTC has ever existed before, so that's all it can be - a theory.  Will that happen? Who knows. But it's every bit as plausible any any other metric we might have used, so we went for it.

ROI/profitability over any reasonable period of time is a figure you just can't calculate anyway. Do you believe in BTC? Any investment in BTC via mining or trading is speculation. You invest funds you can afford to loose based on the possibility of a future high return. Many years (or days lol!) from now when BTC is $35,000 or $350,000 you will be glad you saw beyond things like power costs or if you would get your money back on your mining equipment in six months, and if BTC is $0 then you really didn't loose that much relative to the potential gain and you'll have some great 1400w space heaters that have the upside of sounding like fighter jet engines on the tarmac. Heat the house and imagine you're Maverick from Top Gun.

  "Engage Maverick - Engage! Ice Man is in trouble! You have to Engage!"   Wink

Poor Goose.

The only thing for sure is the longer you wait around hand wringing about an unknowable variable like ROI, the less profit you are likely to make in the long run. Based on the information you can gather, what do YOU think (not someone else) is going to happen in the future? Trade on that and, win or loose, you'll always be OK.


Wow, very well said!

"I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now"
It's still risky nevertheless and you're taking a pretty big gamble; personally if I were going to do something like this I would just straight up buy Bitcoin. Still better to buy profitable miners or just hold imo but to each his own. I used to run an SP20 at a loss and with the price rises made my money back and then some.
2930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 06, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
Unless the chips are already physically compatible with other X algorithms or they are pretty much exactly the same don’t expect anything to “unlock” mining on other X algorithms. Baikal miners use FPGAs which can be changed to allow for more hashing of other algorithms through firmware changes, which is also why they are less efficient than the D3s. If Bitmain are using ASIC chips they cannot be modified like that.
2931  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Where can i buy an Antminer S9 ? on: November 06, 2017, 10:52:29 AM
I forgot to mention this, but forum members also sell S9s and other miners too in the Computer Hardware section under Goods in Marketplace. Just make sure the user is somewhat reputable and always use escrow for the least risks. Escrowing with users like Sebastianju or Philipma is a good idea, I think there's a list of reputable escrows somewhere or the user you are escrowing with can help you find it. Just watch out for fake accounts pretending to be the escrower. Escrows will most of the time have dark green trust.
2932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: If Ant D3 asic miner can mine other x11 coins on: November 06, 2017, 10:49:24 AM
I assume peaple dont answer cause it seems you dont do any research at all Wink

I will do it, cause anyone can be on your position.

Actually D3 can mine only X11 algo, he can mine every coin you can reach on X11.

Bitmain dont have miner with multiple algo actually only Baikal doing this ... Maybe in future but is not planned at all.

Thanks guy.

i hope Bitmain change their Firmware....
That wouldn't change anything since the D3 is not an FPGA (perhaps design has changed in the Baikals?) like the Baikals and there is no physical circuitry to allow for hashing of other algorithms in the chips themselves. Bitmain would have to design a new chip for more.
2933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help with h110 btc+ no boot on: November 06, 2017, 01:52:18 AM
Being a 100 series board it might not be flashed with the Kabylake BIOS or it's just faulty. If you could find a buddy with a Skylake CPU (or really any other 1151 CPU but pref Skylake) andot it in to test it'd confirm one of the two. I find it hard to believe it's not flashed with the Kabylake BIOS though.
2934  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolinminer & Whatsminer FAQs on: November 06, 2017, 01:47:57 AM
We sealed the deal today with Pangolinminer and one Whatsminer 11.5 Th/s miner with power supply is on the way.

Should take about a week for it to arrive here in Finland.
Keep us updated, love to hear about new miners and more obscure miners too. Price looks very good, would consider buying one if things look smooth. Glad to hear you guys at Pangolin actually gave out a review sample instead of just posting a buy link like most vaporware companies.
2935  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining bitcoin on: November 05, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Electricity costs of 0,06 $/kwh are in the higher range but as bitcoin increased for some $ thousands recently you should be still fine and it's also possible that the price will increase further. Do you have to register your activity and pay fees and taxes on the winnings?

Without experience, going solo is always riskier than joining already successful projects with competent managers and probably better basic conditions like yours, but that is your decision.
No? It's perfectly viable to mine at or below electrical costs of $.10/KwH and above that is the point that's actually high. Difficulty's absolutely skyrocketing recently but you should still be okay mining at $.06/KwH. Hell most hosting facilities and colocs don't have rates like that. You're just fine.
2936  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Avoiding moist in your mining farms on: November 05, 2017, 08:52:38 PM
See how much humidity is actually in your mining space and then if it is too high get a dehumidifier. They're not incredibly expensive for protecting miners but they're generally not really needed unless you live in a jungle. Just keep airflow moving and make sure there is no condensation- this absolutely kills miners and computers alike.
2937  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Where can i buy an Antminer S9 ? on: November 05, 2017, 08:49:35 PM
eBay if you want it right now, but you'll encounter some pretty bad price scalping. I'd personally wait for the best prices. Don't buy from any other places except Bitmain or you'll encounter scams. If you're ever unsure whether or not something is a scam, search or ask us here.
2938  Economy / Services / Re: Copywritters needed! on: November 03, 2017, 08:31:48 PM
I'm available for this, if you could PM me with your rates, information, etc that'd be helpful. Native English speaker with copywriting experience.
2939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Cheap & Reliable Asic Hosting Company? on: November 02, 2017, 11:23:38 PM
There is a list of good places to host miners somewhere on this forum- if I remember it I'll link it to you here. Any datacenter will work for mining, but rates are different and availability is low in many spot right now due to demand. Location's also important as you want quick access to your miners in case of any issues- post this if you can, doesn't have to be general. Just a country would help.


This is a little old but it shows a few.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622998.0
2940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: what is best hardwares mining BTG 2017-18 on: November 02, 2017, 11:19:15 PM
Well as he asks about BTG i guess it's no asics involved and topic probably moved. Much same hardware as to Zcash mining will work well.
There's hardly any information out about BTG much less mining hardware, no? I've marked this for a moderator to move it. Good to note BTG does supposedly use Equihash, so any GPU good on Ethereum will likely do well on BTG as well.
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