Just curious if there were any plans in the works for the next "official" Bitcoin Conference?

I like how you use that as an excuse to ignore my questions you cannot answer. 

No, it's the compatibility headaches that you have to deal with afterward that suck.  Games not running right, running more slowly than on a single card, crashing, etc.

Since underminer already has experience in that realm, and doesn't mind fiddling, it's a moot point for this particular discussion anyway.

Honestly crossfire can bring a lot of headaches when trying to game on it.  If you want something that "just works", pick the best processor, the best SINGLE card, and then upgrade only if and when you are dissatisfied with the performance.  There are very few games out that need more than a 6950 (which looks to be the best card in your bunch) even running at max visual settings.  Just my opinion. 

Also, if we're plugging for Minecraft servers, play.minecraftcc.com is a good one.    Also accepts Bitcoins for donations!

I love the nested quoting myself.  I hate it when only the last quote is displayed, because I often find myself spending a lot of time trying to piece together a conversation, looking back in the thread for the previous related quotes.  Nested quoting ensures the discussion is easily visible and traceable, especially when there are multiple sub-conversations going on in the same thread.  And having to scroll a few extra mousewheel clicks doesn't bother me at all - it takes fractions of a second.

Look dude, I preordered knowing FULL WELL that BFL had nothing to show for it at the time.  It's a risk (albeit I think a slight one) that they don't deliver.  I was willing to take that risk.

So, what exactly is your problem with BFL conducting business this way?  They aren't lying about it, and everyone who pre-orders willingly accepts the risks that they don't deliver, and the length of time that could potentially go by before they receive the products they pre-ordered.

Is it any different from, say, a project on kickstarter?  Why?

Also, now you're going from saying "you will get 0% return" to "you will get you ASIC"?  Huh?  If I have my ASIC, and it works, then by definition, I will have a return greater than 0% from the moment I turn that miner on.  You must have your business terminology confused.

No, why would they send me interest on pre-order money I sent them?  Neither I nor they made any sort of agreement along those lines.  I've never heard of any company giving their customers interest on money sent in from a preorder.  And returns WILL be greater than 0%, unless they never send out a product.

Compulsive liar = scammer in my book.  So, when all the garbage you keep spewing out as facts comes to light as being untrue, you become a scammer.

It's pretty amazing how close they are to their goal though...

Wait, I thought you said (yesterday) that you weren't reporting defaults to the credit agencies?

0% return on it?  Are you taking bets?  Or at the very least, are you willing to take the scammer tag once your "facts" turn out to be lies?

Yeah yeah, you also have many more capita per sq mile to help pay for the infrastructure costs. 

The difference between the two is pretty simple.  With trickle down economics, you have people PRODUCING goods in exchange for the "free money" from the government.  With trickle up economics, you have people CONSUMING goods without correlating production.  It (partially) corresponds to the whole "give a man a fish" idea.  I realize that in the case of trickle down, not all the money makes it to the bottom, and probably very often only a very small portion of it does, but it does help people to be better tomorrow than they are today, vs just being passive consumers of government money.

My thought has always been, if people want to freeload off the government, at least make them work for it.  I don't care what it is, digging ditches, roadside cleanup, web programming, daycare, but make them do SOMETHING.  Call it a temporary government job.  It's month to month work, there's always a variety of jobs to do, regardless of the number of people "hired" to do those jobs, and the pay is minimal without benefits (a person could do better in the private industry).  Basically, it's a bottom of the barrel guaranteed job for when people don't have anything else.  But at least we'd be giving these people incentive to get off their butts.  No pay unless you work.  And, perhaps much more importantly, we'd be giving those people skills they can use later on in a "real" job, helping to increase our national productivity and decrease the burden on the national budget.

Well, since we're arguing semantics, it is NOT true of all forms of RAID.

In RAID1, your risk of losing everything does not increase, and your risk of losing some things decreases (vs storing different files on each disk individually).

Definitely leave cryptography out of it.  For me, the three main selling points are:
- I can send any amount of money anywhere in the world absolutely free and it is confirmed in an hour.
- No government can print more Bitcoin.
- No company or bank controls Bitcoin.

Things like lack of government control sound great to libertarians, but not to every else.  Likewise, the cryptographic methodology and other geeky details are amazing to, well, geeks, but no one else understands or cares about it.  But I think the above 3 points, pretty much everyone can relate to as being a good thing.

What about a PS3 or Xbox?  Those can both play Netflix/Hulu and both have file share play capabilities.

Why not Bitcoin?

I wouldn't trust any mail system to send more than a $20 bill properly.

It's Comcast, and the charge is $115/month if I remember correctly.

I disagree.  Bitcoin blockchain growth will be linear while technological innovation and progress will be exponential.  At some point, the Bitcoin block chain will be no bigger deal than a simple word document.

1MB (max block size) * 6 * 24 * 365 = 53GB.  That's the maximum growth of the blockchain per year.  We already have 3 TB HDD's, so those'll last for 56 years.  And in 56 years, we should theoretically have 268 exabyte HDD's, which would last, for all intents and purposes with regards to Bitcoin, indefinitely.

And if you want to talk about bandwidth, it's the same story.  I now have 50mbps cable service available to my residence.  5 years ago, I only had 12mbps available.  10 years ago, I only had 768kbps dsl available.  So bandwidth is basically following Moore's law as well.  In 5 more years, I should have 300mbps service, etc, while the bandwidth requirements of Bitcoin will remain the same, at 53GB/year (or 13kbps).

What exactly did you do?

You're missing that there may not be a "correction" that gives the hash you're looking for.  Each hash is completely random, and though there is a nonce included as part of the calculation, the entire range of nonces is calculated in a matter of seconds by the average hasher.  BFL's new SC Single, for example, will run through a typical nonce range in 70ms.

Technically, the entire network could hash for millions of years and never come across the right hash.  It would be extraordinarily unlikely, but there is no limited range to search, as you suggest.