Can't believe i am agreeing with mining1  
(about the small amounts)
Which just shows manipulation..
Someone is not going to do that to show off..
They are doing it for a reason.
Walls are put up to control the price.

For example a dev of a coin was blatant about it and kept saying he was doing it on Cryptsy chat a couple yrs ago.
So no you can't sit there and bullshit about it.
The dev's admit it.

The dev's have in fact admitted to precisely what Spartak was pointing out.
Dev's said they did it for that exact same reason too.

You guys have no room to argue.
And if i have to i will name the dev and have him come and tell you himself LOL

Are you accusing me of being "The Fonz" (from Happy Days)  
No problem.. i will take it LOL

But hey i am talking about accountability.
Not whether the coin is scammy etc.
I am suggesting though when a dev behind a coin omits any type of ledger. (at least a ledger if not more)
Yes it then is in fact highly sketchy and pretty much always scammy.

This is not up for debate noob accounts.
You can try but you are wasting your time.
Those of us here not bullshiting will see and ALREADY know the truth.

Ya no shit.. they went and did the ole "Scottsdale" Hide the records routine.. classic  

I still think that should be a violation and may be ?
You have to have a valid contact and name with your domain or it's potentially pulled.

I seen the tech site Neowin.net pulled for days before because they pissed some guy off.
So he reported that their email was no longer valid on the domain registration.
It took days to get the email changed and the domain restored.
It's a popular site so it was a pretty big blow.

Point being is you HAVE to have valid contact info or your site is in violation and can be suspended if you are caught.

Clearly these proxy services shitcoin makers have been using here for years are violating the spirit of the domain registration rule / law.
I really hope they crack down on this bullshit and ban the scam proxies.
Only time i ever seen one used was by scammers.

..not legit "Foundations"

Dev's have before paid themselves.
All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work.
Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots.

Lori will probably claim she had 1 million on Cryptsy with proof of a picture of a cat then go and buy back that Mansion  

Oh and my point earlier was to remind the guys of all the stuff we witnessed on chat.
The staff there had remarkable access to all kinds of things.
That picture is from Horus when he posted it here.
It's the Cryptsy Admin Page he had access to..

They may not have had the ability to move money around from Vern's storage accounts but i find it hard to believe they couldn't do just about everything else.

Which.. means it's pretty damn hard to play dumb all this time.

Don't forget guys people like JSHock seen these problems persist for ages as he fed excuses..
He tried them all ..even blaming Spoetnik & Gleb's "FUD" for the withdrawal problems.
Which yeah could be a legit retort.. sort of.
A couple of us running around saying the sky is falling *could* -contribute- to the issues at the time but it was definitely not the cause.
We know this because the problems were ongoing and severe before anyone had a chance to hear any "FUD".

I don't want to single out Horus on this but yeah he may be guilty of playing dumb.
I think maybe in a way he's sort of admitted that.
NONE of the others ever have in the slightest.

Horus even threatened to quit on his employer.. did any others ?

JSHock told me before he was in charge 2nd to no one but BigVern.
So... Horus had no choice but to follow that guys lead.
And JShock spewed lies & bullshit every step of the way while MULLICK was laying low.
..the "wallet guy"

Not much point in beating a dead horse Horus.
Especially when the others have failed to come forward and be accountable.
And all of them had already commented on this topic ..they are aware it's here.
Who has ?
- Horus
- BigVern
- JSHock
- DCgirl
- Mullick
- BitJohn

Only one we seen show their face and own up to any of this is Horus.

Horus offered to answer any questions i might have.
Which i appreciate because it is a pain in the ass being nagged about shit forever.
I can't think of anything worth asking.. can you all think of something reasonable ?
Maybe post it here.

A lot of these guys have some explaining to do.. and their silence is damning.

So hey DCGirl since you have Paul's phone number in China why not call him up for us and ask him when he plans on coming back to the USA and then let us know which airport and when
..or is she already living in China too ?

..i already gave you a link from the scam section on Cointelegraf.
Did you bother to read it ? Can you read it ?

@shyliar
You got #7 on the list congrats  

There is many..

I think #1 might be "One Day"
Often used with future plans & adoption etc.

Or... XYZ coin is legit because.. i made <insert number of BTC's> amount of profit off it.
Because don't forget guys, a scam is a shitcoin i did not make money off of.

But lets see what sort of suggestions we got before finalizing the list.
And lets hope we get some new retorts next year.
I am looking forward to a full year of mad ROI'z and Shitcoining shenanigans.
And if we're lucky the SEC will do more than issue Investor Fraud Alerts about Crypto-Currencies.

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EDIT:

Oh yeah, and "Innovation" 

@btc_zero_sum
That is an interesting bit of info you posted WOW !
I too would like to see some answers for that..

CryptoTrader should chime in here quick i think.. after all he just used 2 accounts to post 6 times in a row back to back.

Funny they banned others for doing that yet this worthless little piece of shit spammer gets ignored ?

THIS.

And even worse is a ledger can be forged to fuck & back.
So it says a lot that a lazy ass premining cunt can't even take the time to write one up.

And debate ?
What now ? LOL
Go ahead.. let me know how that works out for you.

Notice the charts on ETH and BTC lately ?  

You REALLY wanna step into the ring with my FUD kid ?
I will take your $1,200 market-cap down to $20 toot-sweet son !  

"Perhaps" smart ass you should quit playing dumb about buy-walls and educate the noobs here on the dangers of them as a responsible and mature crypto user with integrity ?

Point ? To mock the losers into coming up with new material.
I am tired of the same old cliche'd crypto defense retorts.. that never did work. 

Shit up in here just went FULL episode of Carol Burnett !

Think of it this way.
Canada uses the Canadian dollar at EVERY store.
But we usually will accept the US dollar on par.

And the US uses their dollar.

All these countries focus heavily on one currency.
And i mean the general public.

So don't rattle off exceptions.. we are here for the general public to take on global usage.
Not niche bullshit or specialized multi-token trading for profit platforms used by the extreme minority.
You all play a game of bait & switch.
You mix the two like they are the same thing.

WHY does my country use one currency ?
Any guesses ?

And a gun to their head ? LOL i agree.. sort of.
The gun = Tough Govt regulations + Govt support & compliance etc.

Actions speak louder than..

Profits now.. problems get fixed later 

I think that really does sum it up..

Probably the same guys who had me banned on their Freenode IRC channel.

@Herbert2020
You are correct sir.
And i may be able to retire in 2017 (i wanted to in 2016)
I can if we have more users posting comments like yours.  

@OP
$$$ ..that is your answer.
People would trade "Smack an old lady in the head with a bat coin" if it padded their wallets with luscious sweet ROI'z.

Do something bad then have users co-opted into supporting it for a slice of the pie.
Then they will play dumb or lie their ass off to defend it.. to keep that pie coming.

So here is your official list of the years most used shitcoin excuses / defense retorts.

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- #1 - Innovation.

- #2 - ?

- #3 - People NEED and want ANON features.

- #4 - It's a better currency because it's Fungible.

- #5 - It's the Silver. (implying Bitcoin is the Gold)

- #6 - Community.

- #7 - It's Beta.

- #8 - You are Jealous of ma ROI'z !!!11ONE

- #9 - You are a Bitcoin Maximalist.

- #10 - You are a Troll FUD'ing.

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..more to come so stay tuned  

Grifter ? hahahha
Naw he's a Quisling
Sorry Horus i had to get in on this action  

And the Lori defense still fails guys.
Saying her behavior could have been worse does not justify her current bad behavior.
Especially in response to myself saying she should forfeit 200k willingly.
What type of broken ass logic is that ?

A bank Manager steals one million then has to pay back 200k..
You all say well he could have stole 2 million..
I say he should give back 750k WILLINGLY.

Work on the logic not the defense of fraudsters.

Cryptotraider16 you should respond to the allegations against your founder & friends.
Tell us what you think of the news that came out about the banks accounts being seized etc.
Or..
Hide & cry Troll.

And i need to tell you i am not interested in who likes whom around here.. this is not High School.
I want to discuss the truth with people.. any and all people.
I am not for or against anyone here.

What did Cointelegraf win ?

Please post some of the info here so we don't have to visit the site you linked to.
And that goes for all the other topics like this you posted too.

I am not visiting random web sites.