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2941  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? on: August 28, 2023, 03:25:49 PM
What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.
Well it will make more sense to those who have learned the DCA approach to Bitcoin accumulations and are constantly staying ahead of the market at all times,  Bitcoin is always best for long-term holdings and that is why you are advised to hold an amount you can afford to hold for a long time,  and this has to be specific between the range of 5 to 10 years.

So if there is no Bitcoin bull run for the next 10 years,  those set of Bitcoin holders will still be in a better position since they have to learn all the way up and down at each point.
2942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: August 28, 2023, 03:18:49 PM
In my opinion, I think referral bonuses are typically waste of one's time because of its processes that seems so impossible to claim and recently I came across a thread
Referral bonuses aren't even a prior thought, neither is it an aftertime reconsiderations about whether or not a person registers on a site.. if that's the focus, then the gambler has zero experience and doesn't even know what they want.
IMHO, the qualities of chosing a casino should be way better than whatever bonuses - I've never heard stories where peeps are really able to benefit from bonuses alot... A proper comparison is the freespins.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
I think @Sandra_hakeem have hard a misconceptions on what referral bonuses really is and have mistaken it to welcome bonus,  but mate referral bonuses are like affiliate rewards it comes in form of royalties from the wagering of any one that registered with your own referral code,  in form of affiliate codes.

This has been one of the most popular means of earning for gamblers for quite some time,  it worksin the form of networking and your percentages are generated based on the wagering of the one that registered under your referral code and part of your network.
2943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football? on: August 28, 2023, 01:54:24 PM
What money can do?! I don't think that European football will suffer, these big players are probably going just for money... a few seasons there will make them so rich and I see them leaving the football, or at least they will not play actively   

I saw some other shorts from recent Neimar & Mitrovic games... It's fun to watch, but I see it as some entertainment for Sheikhs and not like football. At least for now, if they continue buying coaches, players, and everything else maybe they can create some "super league".
Well I think it's a win for both parties, because the European players would help develop the league and make it more popular and the clubs pay huge fee for their services in return and also most of these players that's moved over to the Saudi clubs have already achieved alot in the European leagues so it's not really going to affect their career because they've already lots of trophies and football titles to their names for example the likes of  Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane, Benzema etc, these players are just there to make the league more famous help develop their country side players, make their cool cash and retire.
 And moreover the European clubs where they buy this players from are cashing out huge sum of money which they use in strengthening their teams, the only issue I could think of right now is the fact that most European coaches are saying their involvement in the transfer market is causing inflation and hike in player fees.
It will be a bit sentimental to think that the European football will suffer from the numerous players transfers to the Saudi league this is because,  even though majority of the players that are transferred are big name in the European leagues it doesn't mean that those players are the only players that can deliver in Earopean football,  we have a lot of young players who are also doing well in the various clubs side and on the international leagues.

What I see is that,  the Earopean league/clubs side are well developed enough with good foundation that can easily propel them to success regardless pf the players as long as their is team work and energetic calculative players,  player like Christina Robaldo have created a world record name for themselves in the European league so it time to build the Saudi leagues this is also very important.
2944  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SportScore.io Live Sport Analytics For your Sport Bets! on: August 28, 2023, 09:47:23 AM
and you all are welcome to the First! Blockchain Sport booking!
I think this is the 2nd project I have seen, not the first. Few years ago there was another one, I can not remember the name though. By the way, welcome to the forum.
Hey, Rose may have forgotten to mention that he is one of the reputable campaigns and another promotional marketing manager here in the forum,  and if SportScore needs to expose their platform through any of the offer-mentioned means of promotion.

@SportScore you can contact Rose if you want to have a review campaign which is the best for of promotion for you when you eventually launch your sportbooking feature,  because having a review campaign will allow you have real time testers of your platforms there after give their reviews and suggestions on the features and operation of the site.
2945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Still not a safe practice even if it works on: August 28, 2023, 09:29:07 AM

What I think is that if a casino has verified an account which they know is using encrypted connection like virtual private network (VPN) on their website then they should not go back to pretend they didn't know about it. If the have done verification to see the user is not laundering money or doing some sort illegal but only trying to evade the IP ban from his home country then it should not be a problem for the casino, After all, They might have allowed such a window for that kind of purpose.


Casinos are only interested in the activities of the players to see if they violate or manipulate any of their systems to take advantage and one of the major ways that the casino can be abused is through their bonuses system where abusers create multiple accounts just to claim the bonus,  that is why any attempt to use a different IP or trying to access some casinos using VPN may be seen as illegal on some casinos.

Note also if an account is already verified,  the player then does not have any problem as long as the gambler operates within the stipulated laws and abides by them and if there is any reason such player uses a VPN the casino may overlook that.
2946  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] SportScore.io Live Sport Analytics For your Sport Bets! on: August 28, 2023, 07:36:55 AM
We are working on Smart Contract sport booking for Ethereum/Bitcoin for instant bets + real time watch of the match! all these new features will be announced soon!
and you all are welcome to the First! Blockchain Sport booking!
Welcome on board Bitcointalk it's always exciting to see new projects popping up,  this time blockchain-based sports live analytics on clubs player stats and soon a sportsbook feature if implemented as mentioned in the op, a platform with a real-time watch of the match nice feature,  but then hope you will have a welcome bonus because the welcome bonus is one of the major ways to attract real-time speaker who may be interested to bet on one or two of those sports games on your soon to be sportsbook, hope to see you around and fixing an eye and I am sure that, other users may also want to try out your sports bets and give their honest review about the platform.
2947  Economy / Gambling / Re: Empire.io | Free Payouts, VPN-Friendly, Relaxed KYC & 1 BTC bonus! on: August 27, 2023, 09:19:07 PM
Welcome to the forum, nice to see another new casino! I briefly visited the site but I am just wondering what makes you standout versus the competition? There are so many good and old casinos so it is not easy to go up against that.

They need to be active here though so they can attract potential players.
An active support is always better for the business, as it will show that they are reachable at any time.
We may not see their edge yet over existing ones, but as time goes by they need to offer unique promos from time to time.
The competition is already tough, so they need to think outside the box to get the interest of these players.
If we will not see much of their rep here, people will forget this site. They need to have interactive discussion so players will be encouraged to try their site.
The sad truth is that the ops have not replied to any comment here since the start of this thread,  and this doesn't show any sign of responsibility because I have read through the comments on those threads and I have seen that some of the comments are either questions,  suggestions which need the team response on them.

Up till now they have maintained silence unless for the few comments/replies in the first page of the thread but in the second page they haven't reacted yet to anyone,  but the good news is that forum members have a positive atmosphere for these casinos and that can be seen in the way they are welcomed here.
2948  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: The country no de move forward on: August 27, 2023, 09:07:27 PM
The issue with us Naija people be say we too dey greedy and anxious for Naija to get better now na dis kind of things we lack it suppose to have been since when dey go comot dis subsidy of fuel but nobody wan do am now d new president dey start from scratch dats security and fuel aspect even food so e go hard first but Sha na true every president na behave dsame but as dis man wan start now make we hope for the best
Believe me, our naija people them Dey try. We be survivors and you can tell from the plenty system for the country way no Dey work but still, you go find people way dey try there best to see through all the hardship and make a life for themselves.
I no go deny say greed no follow for watin make us dey behind as e be so but, I no see any other nation way no get greedy people amongst them kwa. E no really worst for here like we like to think na just say, our own, we no sabi cover am like other people dey do. We leave am upon way be say, people go know say this thing no good but, we no fit do anything about am.
Na evidence of a broken system and if we no fix the system, we no fit give justice to the ills for our society. Country way judicial system no dey punish offenders as them deserve, watin you go expect!
The problem of Nigeria is no longer greedy politicians,  but we are faced with a more deadly problem which is the problem of leadership bankruptcy, This is a situation where politicians recruit and regroup themselves just to rotate the system around themselves even though they are aware of the inability to deliver at that position due to lack of intellectual capacity to design a developmental partway for both themselves,  family and the country at large.

This has become the virus that has thorn Nigeria's development apart and this virus is bigger than greed,  and corruption put together.
2949  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price, Where Next on: August 27, 2023, 08:59:12 PM
Well it is not easy for us to guess hoe we will see the Bitcoin price. We are still stuck at this price of 26k per coin for a little bit now and still waiting for some 'bullish' signals.
Hedge fund Pantera Capital who has $4.8 Billion in assets is very 'bullish' for Bitcoin price. It says price will be $35,000 before the next halving of 2024. And then $148,000 in 2025.
https://finbold.com/4-8-billion-hedge-fund-pantera-predicts-bitcoin-at-148000-by-2025/
Yeah getting stocked around the 26k region for a while points to two things according to my own analysis of the market and that is where the reality is, First is that it shows that Bitcoin prices have become more stable since it has built resistance around that price level when it market was forced down in the last couple of days back,  and the second possible guest is that,  Bitcoin is building momentum against the next big market direction.

I have been familiar with this kind of market situation a couple of times before and this is how that market behaviour works,  the price of Bitcoin will stay at a particular price for a while,  and suddenly of will take a particular direction that most speculators may not be able to understand that movement.
2950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 27, 2023, 08:19:41 PM


I agree, Real Madrid should have spent this transfer window much more active. If they want to be champions, they must play without making any mistakes and have no problem scoring goals.
Right now they have started the league well and have not lost points but the other teams have not yet reached their potential to play at their best. Considering that it was a league where competition continued until the last few weeks, teams with few or not enough star players may start to lose points in the following weeks of the season
Real Madrid did the best they could do in the last transfer window even though their may not have been the club that spent the highest money in signing new players but then also the club did not let go too much of their players since they had already invested a lot of money on those players in the previous season and this has reflected in the result Real Madrid recorded in the last two seasons.

Even though the just-concluded season was filled with a lot of setbacks for Real Madrid, they still managed to secure second in La Liga coming and following close to Barcelona in the last season's title rankings.
2951  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unethical Practices: Involvement of Bots and Fake Accounts for contest/race on: August 27, 2023, 08:03:37 PM
Without any evidence, no one is going to take this allegation seriously...

It would be quite difficult to collect valid evidence for these claims... unless it is inside information. If someone from the team working at the casino decides to speak about such manipulations and gather some "real evidence" I will probably pay more attention to that. But just "words" from someone who didn't make it in a wager race don't have any value. I busted my bankroll too many times in trying to compete in different races. We play hard and we risk a lot and sometimes we simply lose. It's hard to compete with a limited bankroll and to catch up with high rollers...

I am not taking any sides here, I am just saying if you think there is something suspicious about the place where you gamble move to another place.
I agree with you on the difficulty in getting evidence for case of this nature,  this is why this kind of case can either be swept under the carpet by the casino due to lack of evidence from the accusers and also the gambler,, on the other hand, could be manipulative at times trying to ruin the reputation of a particular casino.

So the case is in both ways,  but in the end, it is you against the casino and what determined the outcome of that case is evidence to prove be it through insider info which is difficult to find or taking screenshots while you may analyze the events as it happens this also is almost impossible.
2952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 27, 2023, 07:53:01 PM


PSG must be built as a club that can win without a single star player because to win big titles, they must be a team like that. If they rely on Mbappe for goals, for winnings, how will the win Champions League where many strong opponents are experience, strong and smart enough to constrain Mbappe?
To compete well in big competitions like the champions league you'll need some top players included in your squad if you check out clubs that's won the champions league you'll understand that they have a good number of top class players in the team,  well that won't guarantee winning the league if they don't perform well or understand each other, just like it happened to PSG when they had Messi,Neymar,  Ramos and several other world class player in their team, a squad capable of defeating and European club and winning the Champions League, but they failed to compete well due to lack of team spirit.
 However PSG decided to let go of some top class players and not some veteran players to be included with Mbappe and that's payed off because he's scored in their previous match and a brace recently against Lens, that's one advantage of having a world class player included in a team,it would make the squad look stronger and threatening to opposition teams.
The importance of star player in the club can not be denied a d this can be seen in the result of some of the top clubs that we have in both the international league and the local leagues One very good example in the recent two seasons with clubs like Manchester city,  Real Madrid, Arsenal and Chelsea,  with few of other Saudi clubs that spend a lot of money to buy new star player who has changed the faith of the clubs in recent results.

Mbappe,  Benzema and Ronaldo are all star players who have gone of various transfers and they are all making a lot of waves in their new clubs.
2953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: August 27, 2023, 07:42:04 PM

The casinos become very annoying when there are these kinds of demands, I make them because it doesn't matter much to me, and at this point they ask for the kyc for everything, what does bother me is that with the kyc they start to annoy, that they change the documents by new ones, and those people who ask for the new documents, sometimes we also have another job, and that implies getting up early and doing the management, or making appointments, or doing whatever it is with that, so I agree with KYC but I don't Be so demanding, it's the only thing and it's easy to do, I've verified my kyc in a few casinos and it's fast, but some sites are very annoying with it, and that's what should be avoided.




What have become the reality in today's gambling industry is the issue of KYC, This is what have created a lot of conflicting reactions within the gambling community most especially those online cryptocurrency casino, This is why before you agree to sign up to any casino you need to first of all agree to give out your information for verification,  so for that it makes our worries to shift to another direction which is.

How safe and secure are our KYC documents on those casinos that we give out our KYC documents to and what is the level of their data protection?
2954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: August 27, 2023, 06:47:01 PM
I might be wrong but those shady casinos pay those influencers directly to get some kind of promotion, and they also offer them earning in the form of referrals, and that's why those influencers post the links of those scam sites because they are getting paid both ways, and they don't mind if the site turns out to be a scam because they already have plans to brainwash their followers when these casinos turn out to be scams.
You are not wrong at all. If you are looking for a legit casino then forget about what all those influencers promote. They are being paid to do do and they probably don't mind promoting a scam. Look for legit review website which will never ask you to sign under they affiliate link. If they want to promote their affiliate link they will tel you: this is an affiliate link.. This is a direct link.. and it's up to you to choose whether to support them or not.

I don't watch those influencer videos because there are crab and worth nothing, Those videos are all about how they can drive in traffic and earn money, and they are paid a huge amount to carry out those adverts.

But we should also know that the real referral systems are the ones the independent gamblers register new customers using their referral code to make income through the wagering activities of the one they registered, but social media influencers do not have real-life experience with the game and he is just doing the promotion because he is paid to act the script.
2955  Other / Off-topic / Re: Beware of scammers. on: August 27, 2023, 06:35:46 PM

       please, if You received a distress text message or call from your friends or relatives asking for financial help , verify before you  send the money especially if the account details and phone number is not that of your relatives or friend in questions.

what can we do, to avoid being a victim.


This is the message and that is also what we can do to avoid falling into the scam. This pattern of scamming has been on for long time but if you are careful then you will pick the red lines. One way you can get these red lines is to delay the process a little or stretch the conversation they will begin to be restive to continue.

Also you can get hold of the trick with the third party bank account details like you did. This is also the reason some businesses don't allow third party financial transaction especially if you are requesting to withdraw like in casinos and other online business transactions because they believe any thing is possible to happen to your account like being hacked, so if you are not requesting withdrawal to be received in your account registered with them you may need to go through longer process that is not the usual just to delay you and in the process verify. We have to be careful because scammers come in different ways.
I agree with you,  third-party payment open ways for criminal penetration just like In this case,  and more also one have to be overly sceptical about the too good to be true or whatever the other person at the other hand is telling,  any conversation that is putting you into pressure to act is a red line also and we have to be more careful when it comes financial payments.

Most casinos and exchanges are already aware of this which is why the prohibit third-party payments.
2956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cockfighting? on: August 27, 2023, 06:17:34 PM
First cockfighting isn't ethical and is considered as a criminal activity. But since everyone is free to do anything here as long as it's not breaking any rules. I never seen any gambling website that offer this kind of activity since it's not considered as a sport or a game. Animals fights since they are organized by people it can be challenging with government rules that can stop that place and shut it down with the website.
I don't think there are any casinos that offer such things.
In most place around Africa,  there is law that prohibits such and it not term a criminal offence to fight with animals in fact I have seen on several occasions dogs fights and owners bet on them also as horse race raceshe northern part of the country,  this is why we have seen a lot of personal discrimination against such but some people still involve I such activities.

But the limitation is that such games are not popular and casinos don't list them in the games so it's a local game, both cockfight,  dog fight and sometimes horse race.
2957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 27, 2023, 06:06:26 PM


This looks very simple to guess and where this was heading at. Having the two best players in the world in one league will affect the total concentration of footballs lover in the world to just that side. The European football has already dominated the football world and that can’t be taken away from them easily. Spreading the attention of football lovers to other leagues is a good one as football is now a renowned game all over the world and one league can’t contain all the best players in the world with good pay rate.

Now the football focus is now divided into three, the European Football, the Saudi Arabian Football and the MLS which in my opinion feel it is okay to be so. I’m expecting major signings from the MLS for big players just like it happened in the Saudi League to make all leagues balance and competitive to watch.
Football is becoming more interesting lately and this is one of an exciting time for football lovers, The Saudi Arabian leagues have taken good shape following the European league's step to boost the football sporting industry with huge capital investment in players signing such as Christina Ronaldo and some other world players into the league,  but the MLS you mention is quite unpopular bit then let see how they go about in this season during the transfers window,  but in the main time,  one thing the Saudi Arabians are known for is the huge investment in players signing.
2958  Economy / Gambling / Re: Concept of Halal Casino on: August 27, 2023, 05:58:14 PM
To be honest, I thought the video was about an Islamic casino or a casino that allows Muslims to gamble because I have seen so many of his videos on other topics and also some short clips from TikTok and his teachings are always good to listen to.

And to see his picture on a casino post really got my attention. Although his post didn’t ponder entirely on casino but I still got something from it, like we shouldn’t discourage one from doing something good even if all they have been doing in their life has been evil. And since gambling is haram we shouldn’t discourage those that partake in it to not doing other holy things because we are all human and we can change for the better and that little good they did could be the catalyst for it.
I agree with you because my first suspense was to see the first Islamic casino since the religion drawn so much on gambling,  but hey this is highly educative since it deals with how individuals deal with their perception and judgment of other,  the speaker was right anyways and this will also lower the so much discrimination against gambling without actually taking time to know it advantage and weaknesses.

The video entirely spoke in line with what my local priest told me in the church today that we should not be too judgemental of people while speaking to them about moralities,  a lot of religious outreach doesn't reach some casinos in my area and sometimes they bypass it deliberately writing them off not knowing that humans are always weak.
2959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 27, 2023, 04:05:58 PM

Yes, Man United looked a bit scared in the first half.  But they turned around in the second half and beat Nottingham Forest 3-2. The penalty chance was a plus point for them which helped them a lot to win the match. I was really shocked to see Nottingham Forest score 2 goals in just five minutes at the start of the game. And I started to think that Man United will lose the match badly today.  But they surprised me at the end of the game. Man United and Man City are now bidding on equal points in the points table
Manchester United hard a narrow escape in the yesterday's game against Nottingham Forest with just a goal difference this is a big sign Manchester United will be facing a tough season in this round of the premier league since their early games already pointed out a lot of weak point in the club formation for this season.

And if they eventually lose their next match,  it will be hard for them to recover since the points on the table are still far below and United is not even in the top 5 clubs in the league.
2960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: August 27, 2023, 03:59:39 PM
you should know your limit if you lose accept it don't make gambling your profession gambling is just a pastime and it's not a profession many people are addicted to gambling, most of them have a lot of debt and many others, so if I were you, be responsible when it comes to gambling
I agree with you because the reason why most of the gambling addicts fall into that level is because the failed to set a limit to their gambling excesses and run into a mess that they created by themselves all in the name of chasing a particular direction be it chasing loses or chasing winning it both end in the same mess of getting you addicted.

But when you already have a set limit,  it will guide you throughout your time and will always let you know when to call it a day or continue gambling,  that is what makes you safe gamblers devoid of possible addictions.
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