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2941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 28, 2016, 01:29:19 PM
Because if you are losing you will end up chasing those losses until you lose everything. When you don't have anymore to bet then it is over for you.
I think it still will not come to an end mate, people will never be satisfied and admitted defeat for which they perform a variety of ways to keep gambling, such as borrowing money on lending, then gambling again
they do not realize that their lives have been damaged by gambling
But if they have no more to bet with how will they get the money to keep going on?
Steal it or selling things is the bottom of the barrel. Then what? A end to their life? Is that what you are saying?

take a look at the loan section and you will understand.
those who are real gambling addicts can never control themselves, they do anything to get money and gamble it away, they even take big loans to gamble with and in some serious cases they sell their house or take a mortgage on it and bet with the amount.

There is no telling what addicts will do just to support their addiction. That is why there are news of addicts stealing or killing for money. That maybe hard to hear but that is the reality of it. So before it is too late, do not ever allow any addiction to take a grasp over you. Whether it is gambling or drug, any addiction is uncontrollable and should be avoided at all cost.
To reach to the level of stealing money and killing a person is maybe the worst effect of gambling addiction. Actually only crazy people who can do that and those who are not a responsible gambler because a normal gambler would understand that there is a winning and losing for gambling.

Killing someone because of gambling is very extreme. The one who make it are really have some criminal instinct already and just aggravated by big losses in a very unresponsible gambling. I believe majority of people gambling are just doing it for fun and not to that extreme.

They are already sick even before they do gambling I believe.
This kind of person should never enter into gambling because they are very dangerous and most likely they will lose in the long run as they do not have the right self control to play a discipline way in gambling. Gambling is only for matured thinking person who understand the risk of doing it.
2942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: July 28, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
Well that amount can be unlimited but it all depends on you bankroll when you enter the place where you want to win all your money/bitcoin with.
I would suggest choosing a place where there are alot of other gamblers already playing so there is more a chance that you will win because the more players there are the less of an edge the casino would have against you.

Benefit in gambling is something to do on the strategy and skill we do, Bankroll only as a complement of strategy and skill that we use. Be a gambler can do something thing that can give you an advantage and not using negative impact on yourself

What? I think a small portion of skill and strategy can only be use in gambling it will all fall down to luck only because gambling is only base on luck every gaming method that gambling has is needed by luck, by the existence of luck and chances is very rare! I think you will play gambling because it is on your own future! and if you would win and lose I think that is your fate!

Yeah, I do not agree. That strategy and skill in gambling is a way to get satisfactory results. because it is in gambling we have luck enough when gambling, although there is a gambling that relied on skill i.e. sports, however it only applies at the time before making bets

Yup! skill and strategy can actually be apply to certain gambling games but just a small portion of it is really needed cause no matter what kind of game it is as long it is gambling then luck will have a bigger portion or a bigger part to play, even if you are talking about poker and sports betting.
You should not consider luck as the bigger portion in order for you to win in gambling. Remember that you win gambling in the long run because of consistency and not because of luck. Luck can happen sometimes so if you are regular gambling surely you will lose more often.

You still need to improved your skills.
2943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: July 27, 2016, 08:44:31 AM
I have not try to invest to any bitcoin casinos but im looking forward to it. Investing your bitcoin is very risky but  why not give it a try? I gonna try it. Starting with a small amount. Some casinos offers a tempting offer. Better learn how the system works so you wont be fooled.
You should try investing in a online casinos, one casino that I now is the moneypot and maybe try to consider safedice, they have a great bankroll now. You should diversify your investment as that is the basic practice of a matured investors so you should follow.
2944  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: July 27, 2016, 08:40:21 AM
I have $100,000 to invest but want to safely double it in a year. Any suggestions?
To make it double its not hard for 1 year .I think you can do it morethan double do more investment so even it will failed in one you had more chances to make it back try trading and investing in gambling sites. Or just create your own business and hire people work to you.
Bitcoin has seen some success in online gambling, greater rewards remain for those who overcome the challenges, and it won't be the same always, trading also needs proper experience. Better is to invest in business.
you mean real business? I agree $100,000 for real business, rather than investing online that ended with a scammer.
but puts business on a bitcoin is very safe. just waiting for the price increase, because I believe in the future of bitcoin prices could rise higher.
Real business is a good way to double your money but you have to make that the business you are planning to established will make use of your skills and your passion so you can run it successfully. It is better to have a business that we can use our passion as we will be more hands on to that business and could help it to succeed in the future.
2945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your biggest loss gambling? on: July 27, 2016, 08:30:52 AM
My biggest loss gambling is on sportsbook, i lose 1 bitcoin+ on 1 bet on sports match. It's really hard to accept our losses on a gambling, it feels like i want to cry loudly.
LOL! Lessons learned mate, if you could not afford your bets never try to do it because your luck is not with you always. Considering that big amount of big that is already a good amount to invest and you could possibly make money participating in ICO of altcoins.
2946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: July 27, 2016, 08:26:37 AM
You can lose everything if you do not know how to stop with gambling because if that happens you will have no control over your self and you will just keep spending money in order to gamble all day.
but i have fixed a percentage for my losing even for winning and when i reached to that limit i do stop gambling any more. therefore i have a fixed amount bitcoin for both loosing and winning side.
set your loss limit are a good thing and it's part of money management which so many people talking about , all you need are a discipline . even we speak about gambling here , against the long run you need this money management.
And setting our win limit as well is very important because if you ever win and having a good steak but you don't know how to stop you will still end up losing in the end. That is the discipline that should be impose in every gambler.
not really hard being discipline if you have a desire enough to reach your goal then make yourself discipline on everything stick to the rule and enjoy your steady income later . or gamble like a mad and you could lost everything . include yourself (suicide due frustated) .
Losing self control on your gambling will be recipe of disaster because when you have that kind of experience you are not doing the right decision at all. We should be more focus on the joy it brings to us and never allow our pride to overtake in gambling as we will surely lose control.
but you have to admit that most of the times you are gambling like a mad , no control on it . just make double bet amount again and again , think you would win in the next bet but in the end you just realized you have staked everything you have , you lost all your money and you can't afford to recover it . that's basically the limit amount everyone could lost.
I admit that, I have a very bad attitude in gambling especially when I am losing, I cannot avoid my self from not chasing because I want to win all the time. Well, that was me few yeas ago but I am a change man now, I already understand that it is not good to gamble for the sake of money.
2947  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: July 27, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
but now many are fraudulent Investing Bitcoins so we must be careful to do Investing Bitcoins now
yeah if you're not smart and not sort of investment sites that want you to use I think it would be very likely you will experience a whopping losses
because at this time there are a lot of sites use the investment ponzi system and hyip which is very likely to be a scam


Just don't ever entertain ponzi investment because that would never do good to the investors as a whole, you might profit from it using a invest and run method when you first go in and out automatically but you cannot do that all the time and you will still experience loses if you are going to do that always.
2948  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 27, 2016, 08:13:17 AM
For me Gold is much better for long term investment because value of bitcoin not goes down while in bitcoin you do not have assurance if the price will goes higher than you invest due to fluctuation of the price.
But if you not afford to invest in gold it is good to invest in bitcoin.
You are right and you are playing the right way of investment but still not good to focus on new investments alone as there are other opportunities that could give you more profit even with little investment and that is none other than bitcoins.

We should invest some of our savings to the future.
2949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: July 27, 2016, 08:07:16 AM
Gambling is risky game of money from which most people lose and just a few wins. Gambling too is addictive and fun especially when you're winning and that's why most people can't get away from gambling once they get in it.
In gambling you only win from the start then you lose whenever you win a certain amount.

In my view, everyone have their own way to play the gambling. In gambling main point is that win the money and everyone play it because they want to win it, but the fear of loss, it is good thing because in this way we never became addictive person, but when we have no fear of loss the money in gambling than gambling become dangerous for us. So maintain yourself in every fields like games or business. 
Those who does not fear of losing are completed addicted gamblers and they let gambling enslave them, that is the worst thing for our brothers who failed to play gambling at the right way, it is suppose to be fun and not to ruin anyone's life.

Others should learn from the experience of others so they can do it responsibly.
2950  Economy / Economics / Re: The Halving - Good or Bad for Bitcoin? on: July 27, 2016, 08:05:03 AM
Probably halving  has a good impact to bitcoin. This is the time wrere bitcoin price increases,
And some of the users are waiting for it to have make some profit.

Well at first I am saying that bitcoin halving is going to be good at all. But it seems that there is no change at all with the price of bitcoin.
Or it is still early to see the good effect of bitcoin. I hope that the good effect will take before the end of the year or if not it will happen for the next months.

The bitcoin price rose more than 150 in the last year, so that is already a good achievement if it is related to halving.
Yeah! and benefit is only for those who were able to invest when the price was still low. The current price is really good that we need to maintain this by supporting the community in spreading the good news to gain massive adoption.

The halving was done already and yet no increase happens so we should wait and see.
2951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: July 27, 2016, 07:45:01 AM
Makes your day busy, like doing your job or doing your hobby like playing online games, watching movies. It will takes your time and makes you busy and not remember about gambling.
That could help but I would suggest you do games that would let you stay away from your computer. Doing a physical games like sports would help and it would be beneficial to you because you are living a healthy life style then.
2952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: July 27, 2016, 07:28:03 AM
Being “rich” can mean different things to different people, but I believe it means having the financial freedom to achieve your goals and live the life you want. Regardless of our education, profession or lifestyle, most of us are not where we want to be financially and our reasons are probably more similar than different.
Well, you are right, that is the basic meaning of being rich. To have a financial freedom that you can do everything you want with all your money. And due to our dream to make huge money to achieve that financial freedom we tend to try it in the easiest way to make money which is gambling but the result is not good because most who have tried had failed.
2953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: July 27, 2016, 07:24:15 AM
No because i think it only needs pure luck to win. Only your luck can tell if you win or not. Unlike in dice or card games you need some strategy as well to win the matches along with luck.
Yup slot games mean Luck base games. Here no strategy and plan will work. If you have luck, you can make a profit. I will play slot games but just for fun. So I do only small amount betting. These games are very entertaining and also we can kill our free time quickly. But we have chances to lose our money. So play with the only little amount.

same with me, i like slots, but i only play slots with fun. i do not expect get profit only for fun. maybe if you want to make profit, then you can trying to play blackjack, dice or other games.
Dice should not be considered either as a game that would give us profit because in the long run we will still lose. The house edge is huge regardless of the percentage as we are still gonna lose.

It is just a matter of time before we lose our bets and playing regularly in dice will make us prone to losing.
2954  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 27, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
I choose both save money and invest too. Some of my money invest it for increase my money and the rest i save my money for emergency and for something.
That should be the right thing to do, do not just invest all your money as you never know your investment will be successful or not. Investment post some risk as though investment is really good at first but the possibility is their that could hindrance the success of our investment.
2955  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: July 27, 2016, 07:08:05 AM
loaning is always too risky because people that gets money usually won't want to give that money back not matter what so it is pretty risky
it always happens to me when I lend it to my friends, they are always difficult to pay back.
but if I lend in this forum or elsewhere that there is a collateral, so it does not matter if they do not pay. because collateral should have the same value or more of the loan amount.

Collateral should have more value than the amount you are loaning. Maybe a 20% more value should be enough. Lending is a business and should have profit. If the loan is just the same amount as the collateral, then if they default, you do not have any income.
But you cannot find a good collateral here by lending online, usually in the real life scenario one cannot lend money if without a hard collateral like a real estate or a thing that you called  mortgage loan. And even that hard collateral mentioned loans can possibly default.
2956  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: July 27, 2016, 05:10:24 AM
How to earn money with bitcoin ?

Do games, mine bitcoins invest in gambling or other stuff. If you really want money take up a signature campaign

By investing in gambling do you mean by doing gamble? If yes then that is really not a good idea to earn money, because people mostly lose their capitals in gambling but they win nothing big in it.
And if you mean investing as a partner then that is maybe good but i dont know anything about that.
There are two types on investment in gambling, being a player and being part of the pot money of the house.

If you are a player and you consider gambling as investing them you are a professional gambler who solely live in gambling as source of your income and the one is when you invest in an online casino.
2957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 27, 2016, 05:04:57 AM
The reality is there is no safes method to earn in gambling, it is base only in your luck, if you win you are lucky but if you lose of count you are unlucky that is only i know in gambling. correct me if i am wrong.
You will only be in safe hands in gambling if you know how to entertain your self. You don't have to aim for the money as that is the main reason of addiction and you could go out of the safe zone and will eventually lose a lot of money once addicted in gambling.
2958  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: July 27, 2016, 05:00:41 AM
If bitcoin price is 10,000 USD, i dont think fiat money will be worthless.  Bitcoin value is independent from fiat money.  Same thing with fiat money to Bitcoin.  We are just comparing for example USD and EURO, they are both currency and even if USD gone 10x the value of EURO, euro will never be worthlless because there are still a country using it and backing it.  Same thing with Bitcoin and Fiat money.
Digital currency is different from fiat, like in your example USD and EURO are different because in every country we have our own currency and only by bitcoin that we are united in using only one currency and if that value will be reach by bitcoins it could be a dominant currency.
2959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 27, 2016, 04:56:00 AM
Beacause most people are greedy and they are always looking for easy money.
When they win they want more and keep playing but they forget that sooner or later their luck will be over.When they lose they can't accept that loss is a part of the game and continue untill they get their money back or lose everything.
there thousands reasons could explained why gambling so addictive , but the most popular are because people love their adrenaline to get pushed it's make them feel self satisfaction , make them happy. and yeah sometimes it's addicting due they feel how easy making money though gambling , you don't need to work for hours just roll the dice .
Yeah! and that thousand reasons is making us hooked in gambling and lose our precious money, in overall we could still say that the main reasons when addicted in gambling is only because of money, the interest to win money in an easy way.
2960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much you lost money in gambling? on: July 27, 2016, 04:31:09 AM
Well, I didn't lose too much btc so didn't  count. may be 0.5BTC in my whole gambling. My luck is too good cause I am now on profit. trust me,I am not greedy and my salary isn't decent also.so,I always bet small which I can afford to lose.

It might just be true, because gambling can give you an advantage when you know the downside of gambling and was able to control myself. But the gains will last a while and certainly gambling is increasingly fierce to make you lose in every bet that you do
i think it is definitely not worth all the efforts you put in and all your time, i think that i lost something like a bitcoin or so to it, i sometimes avoid gambling
Your effort will only be wasted if you are considering gambling as a way to make money, while if you are just playing for fun you always value your effort done in gambling as during the gambling session you have achieve the entertainment you want.
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