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2941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 09, 2019, 01:09:48 PM
How sorry you are mate because of being tagged ,and now upon desperation that you are spreading this stupidity?you use to love bitcoin upon the post history and why now you are barking against this?

cause my economic interest shifted from supporting bitcoin (damagin central bank)

towards supporting cryptoindustry (establishing myself as cryptocapitalist)

gliss and his cryptoindexers arent helping me and i cant bribe them like ripple, so i work towards weakening the authority of the cryptoindexation
2942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Monthly minimum wage: ~$82 is that too much to ask? on: January 09, 2019, 01:06:22 PM
there is no point increasing average wage if productivity isnt growing
2943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are ICOs 2.0 enough to regain trust from investors? on: January 09, 2019, 12:57:22 PM
ICOs have lost the blind trust investors had in them. Sure, you could read the project's whitepaper, see how much they care for their community, sometimes even check the technicals in github. But having an good tech team, or outsourcing your community management with great companies like Amazix, does not guarantee that business will be good. Does not even guarantee that the product/service will ever go live.

The big question here is, there is a new wave which some people are calling ICO 2.0 in which projects must have a working prototype before starting crowdfunding.
Do you think this upgrade is enough to regain trust from investors?

 

the problem aren't icos, the problem is the recognition and indexation of those
2944  Local / Biete / Re: Einkaufen mit Bitcoin, DASH und Bitcoin Cash - Mach' mehr als nur HODLN! on: January 09, 2019, 12:32:36 PM
die indexmafia sind die privaten akteure welche coinmarketcap besitzen und die deutungshoheit über die rangordnung und listenung von neuen token haben, das sind derzeit lauter verzweifelte bitcoin zentristen und blockchain developer. es gibt gerüchte das ripple ca. 20 millionen usd gezahlt hat um xrp zu listen.

es ist bisher noch nicht möglich die indexierung von cryptowährungen zu dezentralisieren und der globale markt fixiert sich immer noch auf den pow schrott den die herausgebracht haben.
Das ist nicht nur sinnloses Geschwurbel, sondern auch inhaltlich komplett falsch  Tongue

Zuerst zum Listing. Coinmarketcap hat keine Deutungshoheit, irgendwelche Kryptowährungen auszuschließen, nur weil sie sie nicht mag. Die genauen Listungskriterien kannst du hier nachlesen, da kommt es unter anderem darauf an, ob es eine Kryptowährung ist, dass sie auf einer Mindestanzahl von größeren Exchanges gelistet ist (um einen aussagekräftigen Preis zu gewährleisten), genügend Tradingvolumen und andere, kleinere Faktoren. Die genauen Kriterien, wann eine Kryptowährung gelistet wird, findest du hier: https://coinmarketcap.com/de/methodology/#listings-criteria

Und nun zur Positionierung. Auch da kann Coinmarketcap nicht nach eingem Wunsch die Platzierung der Kryptwährungen von sich aus manipulieren, da diese Bewertung auf bestimmten Randfaktoren basiert. Bei der Marktkapitalisierung ist es die Menge der sich in Umlauf befindlichen Münzen/Token (circulating supply) mal den aktuellen Preis pro Münze/Token.
Hier findest du fein säuberlich alle Kriterien aufgelistet, wie Coinmarketcap die Ranglisten berechnet: https://coinmarketcap.com/de/methodology/#market-data

So ist das nämlich, nichts mit indexmafia blabla!!


Ich würde nur allzu gerne deine Indexmafia sehen, auf der du BTC ausschließt, weil es laut dir ein PoW-Propagandacoin ist xD

lol, nope seh ich ganz anders und viele andere auch, die indexe sind alle viel zu gleich, und alle sagen das gleiche, ihr bitcoincultisten werdet immer wieder jede kritik an eurem bitcoincentrierten corruptionsindex unterlassen, bis ripple eines tages nr.1  ist und einen token nach dem anderen in den corruptionsindex mit hilfe der zentralbank listed,

dann kommt der moment an dem ihr die realität nicht mehr weglügen könnt von dem was ihr da errichtet habt nicht mehr ablenken könnt order verwirren könnt.

es ist und bleibt ein verlogener/heuchlerischer korruptionsindex, man muss das immer wieder sagen, um euch daran zu hindern noch mehr macht mit ihm zu bekommen.

man muss diesen index als ganzes aus der realität der cryptoindustry verschwinden lassen, das wird sowiso passieren, ist egal was ob ihr euch da gegenseitig merit gebt.
2945  Economy / Services / Re: Dev team is looking for a project on: January 09, 2019, 12:18:33 PM
Hello and have a nice day  Smiley
We will be happy to discuss your project

A cohesive development team is ready to provide services:
- Extensive experience in financial applications and trading
- receiving cryptocurrency platform
- development of exchangers / exchanges
- hyperledger projects
- trading bots, any telegram-bots
- ICO private offices, smart-contracts
- node.js projects of any complexity
There are partner interest, open to conversation
contacts: wintex.pro

#cowork #development #partners
Telegram @icogooru
https://t.me/icogooru



you want to sell your time or help developing a project?

i work on an engineering foundation called CPRO issueing socioeconomic sources since a quile and could use support to do quality upgrades.

additionally i am thinking about creating a decentralised index, outside of the bitcoinfounders influence.

check link in signature

om me if you are interested.

regards
2946  Other / Meta / Re: Russian staff are moderating scams against the rules on: January 09, 2019, 12:14:58 PM
The topic about company "Worldcore" in the Russian section was renamed by OP and then it was deleted by Russian moderator with all evidence that were there.

In my mind, moderators have no right to remove topics about scam projects even with the reason "Deleted at the author's request", since OP is not an owner of the comments which were posted in the topic and they shouldn't be deleted at his will.

However, after that I have started a new topic about "Worldcore" in the Russian locale that was closed by the moderator Xal0lex.
Xal0lex said that there is no subsection for scams in the Russian locale and all suspicious projects should be discussed only in the thread "SCAMS of our bitcointalk".

Personally, I disagree to follow this guidance because I think when all scams are discussing in the one place then it would be extremly inconvenient for users and forum guests to find the information about certain projects and this will prevent a complete discussion.

Also, I consider is unacceptable for moderators deleting or closing topics about scam projects whenever they want. Isn't it a violation of the forum rules?

19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).



I ask Forum Administration to restore the Russian topic about Worldcore and create a subsection about scams in the Russian locale.

what the hell is worldcore, and why do you want to spam russian bitcointalk with it?
2947  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: HOT ICO's on: January 09, 2019, 12:01:52 PM
Quote
(ihr seit alles schon so trottel das ihr darauf nicht selbst kommt)

Wenigstens sind wir da unter uns  Grin

lol, das ist auch war
2948  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: HOT ICO's on: January 09, 2019, 11:52:23 AM
Dafür haben wir ja dich.

ihr müsst euren ico teams sagen die sollen in die zentralbank wie ripple millionen drucken und dann die globalle indexmafia schmieren damit die weit nach oben im globalen asymetrischen corruptionsranking kommen,

anders werden eure "coins" net wertvoll  Cheesy, so ists halt mit diesen profitgeilen bitcoinmaximalisten

ich helf euch

der user der coinmarketcap gemacht hat heist "gliss"

sucht in im forumsregister und bietet ihm ein millionenschmiergeld an, um euren ico teams zu helfen

in der industry geht das gerücht um das ripple 20 millionen gliss hingeblättert hat für die listung eines high marketcap tokens auf coinmarketcap.

meiner meinung nach sollten alle icos mit offenen karten in ihren announcement threads sagen wieviele millionen sie zum schmieren der corrupten indexe bereitgestellt haben,

das ico mit der größten summe für "nützliche aufwendungen" ist dann das erfolgsversprechende

 Grin Grin Grin Grin
2949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 09, 2019, 11:44:17 AM
Institutions have a greater interest in creating their own coin for several reasons. Not to be a coin developed in order to increase its value as much as possible but rather a coin to benefit from the technology, something like a stable coin.
If an institution is really interested in investing in BTC it will certainly not be through an exchange, and there is currently no positive signal showing an opportunity.

The crypto market is too dependent on BTC


OP is talking about the development of the industry, not the development of a coin

it is even worse, cryptoindustry is centrered on bitcoin

institutions haver no interest joining that crap.

the western institutions will then start supporting a communist nationalsocialist regime in their countries.

out of interest and the urban import dependend population will join them
2950  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 08, 2019, 11:07:30 PM
you will crash this train with the current setting. i have no doubt about it,

i am not willing to spend time and ressources arguing around with every single idiot in this forum to explain you why, i will just lean back work on other stuff and observe you suffering towards another painlevel, the more the pain becomes the more willing you might become for reform, or you might end up with everything beeing slipped out of your fingers, the influence on the cryptoindustry, and the authority to define the cryptoindex.

i am even expecting you to become a big global joke. with current setting.

regards

Cool story bro.

If you weren't willing to spend the time, you be putting so much effort into creating all these topics to spout a load of meaningless waffle because you don't understand that the fiat price isn't the important part.  The market chooses the direction.  If the market decides it wants wants your "framework for structural multilayered financial system with regulated organic entities" word soup, it'll almost certainly find a way to obtain it.  Otherwise it'll ignore it like it does all the other myriad ideas that get buried without notice or attention because no one cared.  Blame whoever you want and make all the doomsday prognostications you like.  Doesn't make a difference.  You're just another person who thinks their idea is great, but has no way of making it happen other than shouting loudly and flailing your arms about in a desperate bid for attention.

lol you seem not to want to take developer work serious?

maybe the issue is simply that most of bitcoin developers arent really financially dependent on bitcoin and are just voluntary worker.

people at bitmain see that of course differen, and people running an encription service (ethereum, waves, also)

well in that case, lets just wait till next support loss.

no point to support those trash coins.
2951  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimative Crypto-Token Blockchain Plattform. on: January 08, 2019, 10:48:29 PM
die ganzen encriptionplattform betreiber nehmen sich schon ein bischen zu wichtig und nutzen ihre sichere position aus (ethereum, waves, etc)

wenns anders wäre dann wären europas gelddruckerpressenbetreiber historisch immer die mächtigsten europäer,war aber nie so.

ist halt mords die blasenbildungsgefahr hier, konnte man an ethereum schön sehen.
2952  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Bitcoin Core Keine Empfangsadressen on: January 08, 2019, 10:33:25 PM
Hallo Leute, wie der Titel schon sagt ist es mir nicht möglich Empfangsadressen zu generieren.
Die Schaltfläche "Neu" ist einfach nicht da.
Ferner ist es mir auch nicht möglich eine alte wallet.dat zu importieren.
Da ist Bitcoin Core der Meinung im Bootfenster "Durchsuche Erneut"
zu zeigen und bleibt meiner meinung nach da auch Hängen.
Habe die Bitcoin Core ver.0.17.0.1 installiert,
System ist Windows 7 und der Client dient als Full Node (über 25 verbindungen).
Habe neben Bitcoin noch andere Clients installiert (Litecoin, Dogecoin, etc)
da ist es möglich neue adressen zu generieren.
So langsam weiss ich keinen Rat mehr.

Ich danke schon mal im vorraus.

welches bitcoin core meinst du den?

den bitcoin, den bitcoin von roger ver, oder den bitcoin core echten bitcoin der nach dem bitcoin core von roger ver erschaffen wurde. ich kenne mehrere bitcoin cores, ist ja normal bei diesem dezentralen pow schrott.

geht alles um indexmafia und verwirrung
2953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 08, 2019, 10:13:00 PM
Bitcoin developers care less about the price than you think they do.

nonsense, they dont want to establish crypto, they want to enslave/fix the entire world to their bitcoin centristic cryptoindex.

if they would stop doing that bitcoin price will collapse.

i am sure that they will lose their power they have currently anyway, weather they volunarily develop the market, or weather they continue this childish bitcoin enslavement, they will lose social support and will be considered a big global joke

What, exactly, do you think they should be developing?  It would probably help if you were a little clearer on that.  How is it the fault of Bitcoin developers that altcoins aren't getting the attention you feel they deserve?  What are you even talking about?

a framework for structural multilayered financial system with regulated organic entities.

i did some description in my topics (liberty index)

or the layer of engineering foundations i made in the project development board,

it seems i have to wait till the failure confirmation for this forums developers will become more. till they get serious about it.

Creating a layer of communism, nationalism, racism free financial institutions

Project Proposal Creating New CryptoCurrency Index

you have to create a cryptoindex for a cryptoindustry a world economy a world civilisation and not just an index for bitcoin maximalism, like its currently the case.
2954  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 08, 2019, 10:05:57 PM
Interesting argument! I too think that instutionalisation (OMG my vocabulary is getting better day by day) will not help bitcoin or other cryptos to taste the development that they desire.

The most basic question is, what is the main vision of Satoshi behind the creation of bitcoin?? The header of whitepaper says these exact words,

Quote
Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

Do you think bitcoin is being used as one? No! It has majorly become an investment asset. Why? Because the free market sentiment decided it to be used as an investment.

The market is full of short term profit seeker who made it look like an investment and they promoted it as an investment to others which created a huge hype during late 2017 and we all know what happened afterwards! Remember, this hype was never created or supported by maximalists and they are not the one who sold off their holding during that peak.

Secondly, Companies will always want to fund themselves and that's not what institiutionalisation means!! Institutions are profit seeking groups who would obviously want to have control on their own asset. Since this can't be achieved on bitcoin, simply its out of their choice list. Otherwise we wouldn't have seen thousands of valuless ICOs and tokens in cryptospace. I am sure, that is also not supported by maximalists.

I see maximalists as purists who still dreams to see bitcoin is being used as a "Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System" and not as an investment. Bitcoin will continue to develop till the time we have support from maximalists. These developments are not related to the price of it so it can't be deciphered by the blind class who thinks, pricing is the only development.

The moment these maximalists leave the space, we will be at the mercy of speculators and investors.

very well pointed out, i see this as a confirmation where this industry has gone (bitcoin used as investment asset, not as currency), its not really a cryptoindustry its a bitcoin marketing industry.

everyone else who says different has no idea whats going on, and i am sure  they will continue to take punishments for what they did

i said multiple times here the way we are supposed to go is different one, and i know it, but this forum and its developers are in no mental condition to actually start building a framework for it. its still just a bitcoin industry, and the bitcoincentristic indexmafia will prevent any change. it will end with a violent power loss for the index mafia, because they are not willing to adapt/change, or can't find someone they can trust.
2955  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 08, 2019, 10:04:17 PM
Bitcoin developers care less about the price than you think they do.

nonsense, they dont want to establish crypto, they want to enslave/fix the entire world to their bitcoin centristic cryptoindex.

if they would stop doing that bitcoin price will collapse.

i am sure that they will lose their power they have currently anyway, weather they volunarily develop the market, or weather they continue this childish bitcoin enslavement, they will lose social support and will be considered a big global joke
2956  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I miss the Soviet Union. on: January 08, 2019, 09:50:34 PM
Well most of us at the Democratic era it impossible to speak any thing good about any other system of government, since the Soviet Union practices the socialist system of government the leader have to be imposing to bring to light it policy and governance.

united states will become north american soviet union, what the russians didnt achieved, crypto will achieve in no time.

trust me
2957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning Bitcoin is good, but don't depent on it. on: January 08, 2019, 09:19:01 PM
I believe whoever on this forum somehow he is connected with crypto-currency. And all crypto-currency surrounded by Bitcoins. There is lot of way to earn bitcoin like trading, gambling, lending, bounty and so on. This is great opportunity that Bitcoin give us many way to earn from online.

I have seen few topic on forum lately that few people's are want to leave crypto-currency due to continue bear markets. They are finding job or whatever. That's why my topic title is earning Bitcoin is good, but don't depend on it since most of we are not whales.

Beginning of 2017 people's was happy up to end of year. Few people's left his job as far as I know only by depend on Bitcoin. The thought was Bitcoin will make them millionaire. That's not wrong it will happen once a day. But totally depend on it is sign of stupidity. It will be wrong if we think that market always will up trend and give us profits. Those are totally depend on online earning like bitcoin, downtrend is damn for them. In a result they loss their patience and sell coin on loss especially traders.

I would like to suggest earn Bitcoin as much as you can but don't depend on it. Just consider it as a passive income. Just continue your job or whatever your business. On the other hand earn from online and hold it until bull run on your appropriate targets. Then you will not panic and you will not be in loss. Most of traders loss due to panic sell and panic buy. So keep patience and continue your earning, spread the word about Bitcoin. Attract new investors on crypto industry. Think positive and be positive.

My intention to motivate people's who have losed their hope on crypto. The main reason is who are thinking to leave crypto they was totally depend on it. Which is wrong in my opinions.

well that fact, that you cant obtain a regular income with bitcoin makes it basically impossible for bitcoin to ever become a world currency.
2958  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There will be no "Development" of the Cryptoindustry for now, here is why: on: January 08, 2019, 09:12:25 PM
Sounds like you have it all backwards.  Contrary to popular belief, what's best for crypto is not necessarily what's best for the speculators and the institutions.  Go invest in PayPal and Ripple if you want the kind of "development" you're talking about.  Anyone who actually understands why crypto is important will know that you're barking up the wrong tree with this. 



wrong tree?

didnt you lost around 75% value last year?

i think you need more facts till you understand better

but i dont worry they will come,

i am no paypal or ripple fan.
2959  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Arbeitsloser verdient Tausende pro Woche mit seinen Bewerbungsgesprächen on: January 08, 2019, 09:09:43 PM
Bei Reisekosten wird immer noch hier und da Schindluder getrieben und es gibt auch immer noch so ein paar branchenübliche Sachen (Frühstück nicht explizit auf der Hotelrechnung ausweisen um den vollen Verpflegungsmehraufwand zu bekommen zum Beispiel), aber wie Chefin schon sagt die Zeiten in denen da im grossen Stil Sachen passiert sind sind lange vorbei. Da muss man heutzutage schon ganz andere Geschütze auffahren.

z.b. einen planeten an einen corrupten pseudoaltruistischen cryptoindex versklaven?
[...]
Nein das hat nichts mit Reisekosten oder Spesenabrechnungen zu tun.

ja das ist halt ein größeres geschütz
Aber trotzdem eines was nichts mit dem hier diskutierten Thema Spesen und Reisekosten zu tun hat.

aber sehr wohl mit potentieller organisierter kriminalität und der vergleich mit der unkompliziertheit der vergangenheit in der nicht global vernetzten welt
2960  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: HOT ICO's on: January 08, 2019, 09:00:50 PM
mal ein geheimtip für euch spekulanten:

hauptwertmerkmal des wertes aller icos, is derzeit die rangmäßige positionierung im globalen corruptionsindex (coinmarketcap) es geht bei den token gar nicht um qualität der webseite, wer millionen scheffelt, der kann dann auch entsprechend fancy die webseite und das whitepaper ausgestaltenlassen.

die icos sollten lieber sich darauf konzentrieren neue indexe rauszubringen, um den gegenwärtigen bitcoinzentrierten corruptionsindex zu ersetzen. das würd mehr bringen als sich in den corruptionsindex sich einzureihen.

die icos scheitern alle massenhaft weil ihnen der attentionhack des bitcoin cultes nicht gelingt, und kein ico einen größeren marketcap token im globalen corruptionsindex platzieren kann also die bitcoinzentrierte indexmafia das zulässt.

ihr müsst also die indexmafia aushorchen um schnell vorzeitig viel zu investieren, wenn die nen großen marketcap token listen dann ist das eure chance im corruptions system nen token zu bekommen der "wertvoll" ist.

darüber hinaus fällt mir noch ein weiterer fehler auf den ihr macht:

Teams, gute Teams, gut eingespielte Teams sind kein erfolgsmerkmal, ganz im gegenteil sie sind eine garantie für teamartige/gemainschaftliche verschwendung/verschleuderung der funds, des icos welches absolut unkontrollierbar wird. daher kommt auch der werteinbruch nach kurzer zeit. (ihr seit alles schon so trottel das ihr darauf nicht selbst kommt)

gruß
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