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29401  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 13, 2016, 10:30:48 PM
interesting to see creationists intervening here, in a forum about Bitcoin - without science there would be no computers or internet.
Without God there would be no science... or anything else.



Carbon dating - indisputable and unquestionable.
Of course carbon dating exists and works. But nobody knows if there was any C-14 prior to 5,000 years ago or not. If there wasn't, all the carbon-dating dates would be off by at least millions or billions of years.



Just because all our Prophets and all our Holy Book writers got it wrong about many things doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It just means I will never follow a Holy Book, but I still believe in God.

You have a start there. But what is it that you really believe in? Not all prophets got it wrong. How do we know? Because God wants us to understand, so He sends us prophets with His Word.

Cool
29402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Could Steem be the Next Bitcoin? on: July 13, 2016, 10:18:20 PM
Could Steem be the Next Bitcoin?





I have been involved time as a crypto-currency trader for the since February, 2013. After my buddy |"Big Kahuna" Brad gave a talk to me and about 20 of my friends at a meeting, I was immediately very interested. It only took me a short while to acquire some Bitcoins to be able to start trading with. I went to Localbitcoins.com and found someone who would sell me Bitcoins. Actually it wasn't that easy. I emailed one person through the localbitcoins system, waited a couple days, no answer. I messaged another person, again no answer, then a third person, no answer, forth person, no answer. Finally the 5th person messaged me back! I was getting concerned, as there wasn't anyone else to connect with to buy them from.

I get messaged back by a guy named Salty Dog. I thought this is great, it's like being a secret agent, these people don't even use their legal fiction names. I had been going by Morpheus for a while, kinda tongue in cheek, so I set up my localbitcoins account as Morpheus, so that is what he knew me as. I set up a time with Salty to meet at Denny's in a crappy part of town. He sounded a little nervous about meeting there because of the neighborhood. It was convenient to meet there for both of us, so we agreed to meet there. I met with him and we ended up talking for about 2 hours. Much of the time he was almost wanting to talk me out of doing the deal. We ended up doing the deal and I had some bitcoins. I got started with $600 and the price of the coins was $38 with his markup.

When I was leaving the Denny's and paying the bill for both of us of $6.66 Now that threw me back somewhat, I still believe it's a sign, I just don't know what the "sign" says. I do remember thinking, "I am going to make a fucking million dollars doing this." Now three and half years later I have no idea how much money I have made. However I don't have a Job, I date two beautiful women, Everything I have is paid for, and I do whatever I want to do and I NEVER think about money, in terms of how am I going to pay for this or that. I don't go on trips around the world, but I do everything I want to do. The two attributes that value very much is my free time and my privacy.

These are two values that most people have no idea what they are. This is most peoples lives: Get up, get ready to go to work, drive car in insane traffic, work all day doing some mind bending task. Drive home in more insane traffic, some recreation, some time with family, do tasks around home, hygiene, go to bed and repeat. This is how the overlords want us living our lives. How do I know this? Because this is how most people live. 95% of the people are on the 40/40/40 plan. 40 years, at 40 hours a week, to retire on 40% of what you couldn't live on when you were working.

When people ask me how much money do I make, I describe my lifestyle and say I live like a millionaire without the Ferrari or the headaches. I have lived that lifestyle, yes without the Ferrari and with the headaches, when I had a direct mail company. There was the pressure of running the business; as well as, the responsibility for employees finances and indirectly their families lives is a bit much. As the owner, I used to call my self the head cook and bottle washer, because if it needed to get done, I would do it. From negotiating the lease, the painting the office with my x-wife of 3 coats, because the paint sucked. Getting the phone lines brought into the office and purchasing a phone system. Buying and building cubicles and endless trips for computers, printers and office supplies. Setting up computer networks and throwing Ethernet cables across the false ceiling. Writing employee handbooks, hiring and firing. Signing forms for all the appropriate government agencies. Negotiating contracts for trade shows and other advertisers including logo on the window. Website design. Working with the salespeople. Scheduling their time off, Selling, Bookkeeping, CPA's, Attorneys, Cleaning the floors and bathrooms. It's a lot! Yea, The money is great, it's just a lot of responsibility.

Now with Bitcoin I feel like I have my life back. Its mine! I love that feeling. I am not responsible for all that stuff anymore and I have all the money I need to do the things I want to do, when I want to do them. No customer service after the sale and I use a building someone else pays for to conduct business at and their headaches, I mean employees serve me food or drinks, clean the bathrooms etc. So apart from the gas to get there or any food I order, when I do a bitcoin deal every penny of money I make is MINE! I love that feeling!

What I didn't realize, when I first got started with Bitcoin, is that not everyone I explained Bitcoin to was going to "get it". Somehow, I was able to escape the school system with some semblance of critical thinking. Either that or God must love morons. BTW how do you know God loves morons? He made so many of them! Many people have told me the way I present Bitcoin is one of the best unfortunately, even as good as I am, Bitcoin has still not taken over the world. Enter Steem.

Steem is a platform that rewards the content providers for providing content for the network. Right now Facebook is valued at 337.32 BILLION dollars. Now I know bunches of people that spend a great deal of time on Facebook promoting the content they want their friend to see and none of those people ever get anything from Facebook for providing the content. We have seen how new business like uber.com, airbnb.com and craigslist.com have flattened existing industries. These business models have made things more efficient and cheaper for the consumer. Plus the owners of some of these business have made BILLIONS!

By combining crypto-currency with Social networking, Steem is positioning itself as the facebook.com, reddit.com, twitter.com, killer. Now you can post on steem and when your posts get up voted you make money. Just today, I got a call from a friend who wanted to buy bitcoins and he started talking about Steem. He was going to use the Bitcoins to buy Steem on Bittrex.com. Immediately after receiving his overview and looking at the pricing on coinmarketcap.com. I went to Bittrex.com and bought .5 bitcoins worth. I had to drive 1 hour to meet my friend in the time it took to get to the Dennys ironically the price had gone from 3.68 to almost $6. It has settled down now to $3.20 however the point is that this crypto-currency could be how we get the masses into this new protocol. This could be the next Bitcoin!

In the industrial age the way to success was to be bigger. Bigger means economy of scale and that means more profit. In the digital age the way to success is to be faster or smarter. When you see something that looks like it might work time to get on board the train before it leaves the station.

People want to be able to share their likes and what is wrong with the world with their friends. Now with Steem they can get paid for doing so. How much trouble is it going to be to get them to come over? Steem gives them the financial incentive to put their toe in the water. Oh, the water is nice and clear! Wow and they pay me too! F-U Facebook!

Here is the link to the Steem Whitepaper love to hear your thoughts on it.

https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf

https://steemit.com/@morpheustitania


Read more at http://bitcoinandcash.rocks/2016/07/13/could-steem-be-the-next-bitcoin/.


Cool
29403  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "NSFW" - God punishes gay sex by sending earthquakes. on: July 13, 2016, 10:09:14 PM
Poor earthquakes, having to put up with gays that get in their way.    Cool
29404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: God punishes gay sex by sending earthquakes. on: July 13, 2016, 10:07:34 PM
Maybe it is the earthquakes being punished by being sent to gays.     Grin
You know that's not true Grin..Only stupid humans punish gays..BULLIES..

Only gays punish themselves by being gays. Sometimes straight people are the medium of punishment.

Cool
Only because of humans wanting to punish gays..So they feel something wrong with themselves..When what's it got to do with you who they sleep with as long as 2 consenting adults..

Unless you want to join in keep your nose out Grin Grin

As you insinuated, gays aren't human. So who knows what they are thinking?

Cool
29405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: July 13, 2016, 09:45:17 PM
Ok you're an atheist, but Christian atheist or Muslim atheist ?
You crazy man?
There's no atheist that believes in religion once they decided to be an atheist, all of the dogma they have and belief is being remove on their point of view too.

Of course not. Atheists re-define the word "religion" leaving out all the points that would apply to their acting religious.

Cool
29406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antisemitism on: July 13, 2016, 09:43:13 PM
In europe,there are really many christians.
As we all know,jews have killed Jesus Christ,if the whole event was true.
That's why i think,many not smart people hate jews,because for some reason they have coded up in their mind that jews are bad,
they steal,loan to people,etc.
It is just stupid for me,all the stereotypes...

All of the first Christians were Jews. Then a few Gentiles came aboard at Paul's preaching, and at Peter's training from God.

This made the Jews that were NOT Christians very angry. Why? They wanted to be the people blessed by God. And they could have been, if they had only realized that spreading Christianity was the way to be blessed by God. That's why Israel is in such a quandary today.

Jesus arose from the dead via the glory of God the Father... Who is our Father, too.

Cool
29407  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 13, 2016, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: protokol

If the resurrected Jesus was just a look-alike, 100% of the New Testament could be wrong.

And seeing as no talking snake has ever been recorded, much of the Old Testament could be wrong as well.

You understand how the concept of Occam's Razor works?

No. I forgot. Because it is simply a piece of clever garbage to take your focus off whatever you are talking about.

The point is that the age of the universe is unknown scientifically.

Cool

It is the exact opposite of "clever garbage to take your focus off whatever you're taking about". In fact it suggests we focus on what we do know, and avoid complicating problems by introducing additional unknown variables to explain them.

And yes, there is compelling evidence of the scientifically calculated age of the universe, look up the cosmic microwave background.

More cosmic drivel.    Cool

The same cosmic drivel that allows you to see things, watch TV, listen to the radio, take x-rays, reheat your food and ironically, type what you just typed? The electromagnetic spectrum, that cosmic drivel?



You misunderstand. The fact of microwave radiation isn't the drivel. Rather, the cause and source of background radiation is guesswork. It's nice ideas. But that's all.

The point that I am getting at is, if science/media/politics/universities are not honest enough to say that they don't know when C-14 came into being on Earth, and that they don't know to what extent C-14 varied over past millennia, then they certainly don't know anything about the past of background radiation. And anything that they might say about it other than that it is detectable and measurable, doesn't necessarily have any fact behind it.

Cool
29408  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 13, 2016, 03:23:58 AM
Quote from: protokol

If the resurrected Jesus was just a look-alike, 100% of the New Testament could be wrong.

And seeing as no talking snake has ever been recorded, much of the Old Testament could be wrong as well.

You understand how the concept of Occam's Razor works?

No. I forgot. Because it is simply a piece of clever garbage to take your focus off whatever you are talking about.

The point is that the age of the universe is unknown scientifically.

Cool

It is the exact opposite of "clever garbage to take your focus off whatever you're taking about". In fact it suggests we focus on what we do know, and avoid complicating problems by introducing additional unknown variables to explain them.

And yes, there is compelling evidence of the scientifically calculated age of the universe, look up the cosmic microwave background.

More cosmic drivel.    Cool
29409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: will people really suffer without sex education on: July 13, 2016, 03:22:14 AM
I don't recall getting any in school and i would've ignored it anyway.

It's all common sense and best left to parents or one's abuser.

All common sense?
Dude you were at school in a time where porno didn't even exist. It's easy for you to say it's all natural xD

They didn't know what VD was back then. They thought it was polio, or spinal meningitis.

 Cheesy
29410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antisemitism on: July 13, 2016, 03:20:15 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.

What? Somebody has compared us to each other. Whoever you are, how dare you compare me to this lunatic valta4065?

Cool

N'est-ce pas?
Isn't it?

How could anyone dare doing something like this. We've got nothing in common. Except from btc maybe ^^

You're not Jewish, are you?    Cheesy
29411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 13, 2016, 03:18:35 AM
Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

Cool

But in both cases it's the citizen who pays it.
Where I agree is that it's an indirect taxation... But I'm not sure it's better than direct taxation :/

If we make our own products, there is no import. If government makes export tax too high, we simply don't export. If government wants any money at all, they have to balance the tax so that products can come and go. Government shrinks to the right size.

Cool
29412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 13, 2016, 02:03:06 AM
Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

Cool
29413  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: July 13, 2016, 02:01:45 AM
I guess you know nothing about islam when you say that it hates people. No religion hates people, people hate each other.
You have a point there. Islam is a peaceful religion. Islam wouldn't hate any people. Non-muslims are strong blinded by newspaper, social-media networks that we create an bad opinion to muslims.
If you only belive to the people from newspaper, social-media networks etc. without much knowledge in that topic itself then I strongly recommed to research the topic.

Then again, Muslims may be strongly blinded by newspaper, social media networks, etc that we create a bad opinion to non-muslims.  Such as in Jordon, Pakistan, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia and so forth.

If you only belive to the people from newspaper, social-media networks etc. without much knowledge in the topic itself then I strongly recommed to research the topic.

After all this strong blinding, Muslims hate many people.
Journalist sometimes being paid by rich to manipulate what's coming out in news and other article. That's a dirty move happening and it will still happen as long as there are journalist that's no integrity.

I have to agree with your comment.

Could we say perhaps that in addition to the other mentioned causative factors, "journalist sometimes being paid ...."


I think other reason is they are being threaten that if they tell the truth their life and might be their relatives also will be put in danger. They have no choice, that's why they follow what's being told by them that is to hide what's true.

So people are being forced to say "Islam is peace" at the point of a gun.

At least in some cases.  Sounds reasonable.  But other people probably actually believe it, at least from the responses here.  Sure, some of them are from propagandists and manipulators, but others sound sincere.

Ehy sorry but...

Where did you see a journalist claiming Islam is peace? Oo

I mean I never saw anyone saying that. Most journalists say that "Mulims are not all terrorists" but not that islam is peace.

What back woods or hermit hill have you been living in or on? All over America Muslims are constantly saying that Islam is a religion of peace. And when journalists record what Muslims say, they are saying it, too.

Btw, the parts of a crankshaft where the bearings ride are called journals. Did you mean that the machinists who machine crankshafts are journalists? Most of them probably DON'T claim that Islam is peaceful.

Cool
29414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antisemitism on: July 13, 2016, 01:56:32 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.

What? Somebody has compared us to each other. Whoever you are, how dare you compare me to this lunatic valta4065?

Cool
29415  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Anyone Here a Writer? on: July 13, 2016, 01:54:07 AM
I'm not even a typist.     Undecided
29416  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 13, 2016, 01:50:53 AM
I can't make up my mind who's more deluded. Flat earth people or 6000 year old young earth people.

Gasp! Maybe there's a few oddballs out there that believe both at the same time!

 Cheesy

It's the Big Bang people, and those that believe the universe is billions of years old, hands down, who are most deluded. They believe is things that even their founding scientists say are not factual.

Cool

What's your view on Occam's Razor?

Just as an example, let's take your hypothesis that carbon 14 decayed at a faster rate in the past than it does today. That would explain a 6,000 year old Earth, right?

But without any evidence that this is the case, it's not a valid rebuttal of carbon dating, according to Occam's Razor. You're simply thinking of ways which validate your beliefs, with no supporting evidence.

I could just say "well that Jesus guy that was supposedly resurrected and walked out of the cave, he was just a look-alike who pretended to be the real Jesus, the real one never came back to life." The argument has just as much validity as the carbon dating rebuttal.

(I know C14 dating isn't accurate to billions of years, but it does provide compelling evidence against a 6,000 year old Earth.)

If there was absolutely not one atom of C-14 in the atmosphere prior to 5,000 years ago, 100% of our carbon dating that we interpret to be older than 5,000-year-old would be wrong. And much of our dating AFTER 5,000 years would be wrong, as well.

Nobody knows when C-14 came into being in the atmosphere. It's all guesswork.

Cool

If the resurrected Jesus was just a look-alike, 100% of the New Testament could be wrong.

And seeing as no talking snake has ever been recorded, much of the Old Testament could be wrong as well.

You understand how the concept of Occam's Razor works?

No. I forgot. Because it is simply a piece of clever garbage to take your focus off whatever you are talking about.

The point is that the age of the universe is unknown scientifically.

Cool
29417  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antisemitism on: July 13, 2016, 12:03:44 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

All community based power grab ends in chaos... The community serves itself and those on the outside will rebel. Good example is FSB Russia...

Except when the community is a family.    Cool
29418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: will people really suffer without sex education on: July 12, 2016, 11:52:35 PM
This thread reminds me of why boy hippopotamuses get together with girl hippopotamuses. Hip replacement.

 Cheesy
29419  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 12, 2016, 11:48:01 PM
Climb to mount Everest with a gun that can travel the circumference of the earth and shoot it in a straight line.

If you want a gun to travel the circumference of the earth, you can do it a lot easier by locating it at the equator. What are you really trying to say?

Cool
29420  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 12, 2016, 11:45:17 PM
I can't make up my mind who's more deluded. Flat earth people or 6000 year old young earth people.

Gasp! Maybe there's a few oddballs out there that believe both at the same time!

 Cheesy

It's the Big Bang people, and those that believe the universe is billions of years old, hands down, who are most deluded. They believe is things that even their founding scientists say are not factual.

Cool

What's your view on Occam's Razor?

Just as an example, let's take your hypothesis that carbon 14 decayed at a faster rate in the past than it does today. That would explain a 6,000 year old Earth, right?

But without any evidence that this is the case, it's not a valid rebuttal of carbon dating, according to Occam's Razor. You're simply thinking of ways which validate your beliefs, with no supporting evidence.

I could just say "well that Jesus guy that was supposedly resurrected and walked out of the cave, he was just a look-alike who pretended to be the real Jesus, the real one never came back to life." The argument has just as much validity as the carbon dating rebuttal.

(I know C14 dating isn't accurate to billions of years, but it does provide compelling evidence against a 6,000 year old Earth.)

If there was absolutely not one atom of C-14 in the atmosphere prior to 5,000 years ago, 100% of our carbon dating that we interpret to be older than 5,000-year-old would be wrong. And much of our dating AFTER 5,000 years would be wrong, as well.

Nobody knows when C-14 came into being in the atmosphere. It's all guesswork.

Cool
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