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2961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Xiaoxiao's trading/forecast blog on: October 04, 2014, 11:28:17 AM
next phase of down swing ---- 220-350. 

current trades... shorting 4 btc's @ 375...




All that forum noise for a measly 4 btc's? You have been around since 2011 and should be a rich early adopter. Instead you are advising others how to trade when you are playing with peanuts. I've bought more than that today lol.


1) you're a dumbass

2) keep feeding sellers money, until you lose 4x what you bought... and then 2 years later maybe there will be a min comeback and you break even

Haha. You were around in 2011.

1) Why are you not rich?

2) Why should anyone listen to the trading advice of someone who failed to capitalise on one of the greatest bull run accumulations in history?

3) If you are actually any good at trading (the previous two questions allude that you aren't) you would be throwing more than just over a thousand dollars around. 4 btc's? You have to be kidding. Bitcoin makes up 10% of my portfolio, if it goes to zero i will shrug. But even I make you look like a tiny goldfish. Amazing really.

2962  Economy / Speculation / Re: Falllling is right again, Bitcoin will continue the downtrend on: October 04, 2014, 11:23:56 AM
Troll crap

Yeah.
2963  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 11:20:19 AM
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Has anybody tried simply calling the lawyer in charge of getting ETF: COIN approved? I just did. She expects the review process to continue for at least one more year. That was a bit shocking for me as I was hoping for late 2014.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2i7bfn/has_anybody_tried_simply_calling_the_lawyer_in/

Hahahha (excuse my trolling), the gay-ETF-Messiah that everyone hoped to save the price is not going to appear in 2014. LAME!

Yeah lawyers often give away confidential information to random reddit cold callers about a multi million dollar net worth client. Jesus you are a moron wobber.
2964  Economy / Speculation / Re: Xiaoxiao's trading/forecast blog on: October 04, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
next phase of down swing ---- 220-350. 

current trades... shorting 4 btc's @ 375...




All that forum noise for a measly 4 btc's? You have been around since 2011 and should be a rich early adopter. Instead you are advising others how to trade when you are playing with peanuts. I've bought more than that today lol.
2965  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another $15 decrease and we're at 11months low on: October 04, 2014, 11:13:25 AM
Ahhhh "HODL!" and "Cheap coins!", the official bitcoin cheerleaders mantra. I expect a slide all the way back to $100 barring some real world financial disaster that the pumpers can cash in on.

What if... I told you that... you need to sell 5000BTC to get the price to 341 and only need to buy 5000 BTC to push it abovce 405?

At some point the person(s) who unloaded tens of thousands of coins to get us down to this price is/are going to start buying again. Then the greater than 11,000 open short contracts will be closed adding another 11,000 coin purchases in a short space of time. Epic will be too small a word, eventually.. Smiley
2966  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will only begin to worry when see 299. on: October 04, 2014, 11:08:16 AM
and 299 you shall see soon.

Oh dear you are back.
2967  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another $15 decrease and we're at 11months low on: October 04, 2014, 11:07:11 AM
Very high chances to go under 349 within 24 hrs. And if we do, expect 2xx next week. Do you still HODL?

Yes of course. And add more. Duh. Smiley
2968  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin slowly dying out? on: October 04, 2014, 10:58:41 AM
Just look at bitcoinity. We are at the turning point. What happens next will determine the fate of bitcoin.

1. Price goes up. Renewed interest in bitcoin. Mass media attention. Influx of new users brings success to all the startups.

2. Price hovers where it is today. Mass uncertainty. Some startups will die out due to lack of growth.

3. Price crashes. Hash rate plummets. Startups fail. Companies stop accepting btc. Mass panic. Suicides.

Mark this date on your calendar gentlemen: October 10th. For on the 11th we will have already headed down one of these paths.

Very dramatic yokosan! New users don't buy in at the depths of a bear market. It is the large speculators and traders who buy down here. The rapidly rising price of a bull run with media attention that brings users in droves using easy on ramps like Circle or possibly an ETF from their 401k's.

So I would say that you are right and bitcoin as a global currency and digital payment system is in trouble if the market cap decreases significantly and if large speculators decide not to step in this time and heavily buy the bottom. I think they will.

2969  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
6000 BTC down to 340, 6000 BTC up to 470 @bitfinex

People are pulling their asks and market sell.

That may be the case, but it is still impressive. If someone start buying strong we are going to see green fireworks. People shorting at this level are playing with fire...

True, but this orderbook condition, especially on Finex, is existing since weeks. Beside the Paypal bull-trap no one made an attempt to execute an short squeeze.


Not yet. But short interest is rising considerably. Soon it will become profitable to turn the trend on it's head. I was hoping it would come sooner but I expect a burst of selling causing a flash crash then an incredibly high volume reversal followed by sustained buying. This may be followed by a big bear trap and then further heavy buying until the shorts are burned. And before you ask where the cash is going to come from, it is from the people who have sold literally tens of thousands of coins in recent months to drive the price this low.
2970  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin slowly dying out? on: October 04, 2014, 10:30:55 AM
Also Stupid trolls like falllling and co. have been right all along while smart people have been wrong. Something is off.

Calm yourself podyx.

What is more likely, that this is a technical bear market following a 100x bull run being gamed by big players who are building large positions for the impending rise into the mainstream that half a billion dollars of VC funding, impending US regulation and an ETF about to be approved will bring. Or that in a sea of increasing adoption, rapidly growing infrastructure globally, growing merchant adoption, rising transactions and volumes bitcoin is suddenly dying and every single person on bitcointalk other than trolls, newbies who dont know better and technical bearish traders failed to get the memo.

The trolls are just sockpuppet accounts for traders who are short trying to exaggerate downward momentum by manipulating emotions and encouraging selling. A few posters state that influencing sentiment on this forum has no effect upon the price. I would say that manipulating the price and also manipulating sentiment on this forum in a coordinated fashion will exaggerate price movements. If there are only 300,000 to 1 million users with double digit holdings of bitcoin and only 50,000 btc on the exchanges setting the price then convincing a few hundred people with weak hands to sell could make quite a difference to the orderbooks. This is the most viewed and visited bitcoin forum on the internet I believe.

If you are getting emotional either partially or completely sell at a loss to reduce your anxiety, turn off the computer for three months or view this as a buying opportunity and purchase a greater % of the bitcoin network when you feel the price is bottoming.

The reason the quote about buying when blood is in the streets is true, is that human emotion at price extremes like this (and it may get more extreme) makes a normal person want to sell and run, also known as the fight or flight emotional response, when if they thought rationally they should be heavily accumulating. It is that irrational feeling that the price could literally fall to zero you must control. It is no surprise that the trolls are loudly calling for double digit bitcoins and the price falling to $1.

An interesting metric posted in the last few days is the top 100 bitcoin addresses and their balances. These real superwhales are not selling or reducing their coins, they are increasing them on this price weakness. Also bitcoin days destroyed have not spiked suggesting long term early adopter holdings are not being moved to exchanges or moved.

Few bitcoin bulls or holders would have predicted the severity of this bear market but what the features and potential of bitcoin that made it attractive at 400 - 1166 have not changed.

COI: Bitcoin long term holder.




2971  Economy / Speculation / Re: Troll theory on: October 04, 2014, 04:23:05 AM

people couldn’t see $300 at few weeks before now they see it, people refused to listen to falllling to sell at $6xx 5xx 4xx or even 38x now they regret it

soon the same thing will just happen again at $300 200 100 1x,

if you refuse to admit the fact of bitcoin's downfall and decide to bury your head in the sand and still try to fool yourself with "this is just paper losses, i don't sell i don't lose false" then you deserve to lose all of your money
So what? Are you claiming to be a savior? Do you claim to have magical powers that see the future? Or maybe, you are just a troll.

a troll get always right since the first day? then let it be!

Your account is one day old. Please direct me to a prediction you have made that has come true. Or just feck off.
2972  Economy / Speculation / Re: [prediction] Next spike $560,000 14 months from now on: October 04, 2014, 04:21:08 AM
<troll crap>

I think what you said is a fair summary of the content of all your posts.
2973  Economy / Speculation / Re: and we are officially off to test the previous high at around $270 on: October 04, 2014, 04:10:40 AM
I don't think "odds are very high" but I wouldn't mind picking up some coin under $300

eh?

we down 70% off the high, whats another less than 10% to take it to 270

odds are very very good

So are the odds of us reversing back up.

Selling and seeing if we follow the trend lower is a bit risky but may be ok. Shorting here hoping for larger falls is madness.

well anyone who trades bitcoin on margin is asking to eventually get their ass handed to them. I have never recommended shorting bitcoin.

but I am recommending standing aside to see where this goes.

its not just bitcoin getting hit, gold, silver, euro, gbp, soybeans, oil, in fact anything that isnt the US dollar.

Bit late in the bear market for me to duck out. I think i'll just stick it out and actually buy more. Most people who were thinking about selling probably already have. Barring a black swan the gains by selling and buying back in are probably not worth the hassle for me to decrypt my coins from coin storage.
2974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Falllling is right again, Bitcoin will continue the downtrend on: October 04, 2014, 04:07:06 AM
people start to see the incoming $200 and $100 after all
at least permabulls can't fool many any more

How do you keep track of all the different accounts?
2975  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 04:04:31 AM
Monkey says 4 more days down.  He might not count weekends though.  

After that he wants it to go up for a couple of months.

Chart?
2976  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 04:04:07 AM

has everyone given up on the idea that poeple held buttloads of bitcoin in the hopes it would make them rich, and it did, now its a clusterfuck to realize these profits?

fear and greed guides this market short term.

No. The amount of coins determining the price on the exchanges is tiny. Technicals guide the price, sentiment follows.
2977  Economy / Speculation / Re: and we are officially off to test the previous high at around $270 on: October 04, 2014, 04:02:18 AM
I don't think "odds are very high" but I wouldn't mind picking up some coin under $300

eh?

we down 70% off the high, whats another less than 10% to take it to 270

odds are very very good

So are the odds of us reversing back up.

Selling and seeing if we follow the trend lower is a bit risky but may be ok. Shorting here hoping for larger falls is madness.
2978  Economy / Speculation / Re: $360 Just hit on Bstamp Fri 15:00GMT 03/10/14 on: October 04, 2014, 03:43:08 AM
I think what you actually did was buy high and sell low, and more than once.

My last shit trade was to buy at $620, and sell at $535, and that was despite imploring a friend of mind, who with borrowed money invested £5000 on bitcoin at $640, to cut his losses at $620, $590, etc. I don't know what came across me to go against what I preached....ah yes I do, the same old impulsive rush of blood to the head that makes me a shit trader.

Not good. But better than holding 15 Bitcoin worth $350 a punt today, innit!?

The funny thing is, I made all the lionshare of my profits trading Bitcoin when I never had a clue even what a MACD was. Basically from late Nov, whilst also timing a couple of flash crashes brilliantly. But since then, we have had a brutal bear market, which necessarily entails liquidity leaving the market which necessarily entails fewer and fewer winners.

Bitcoin right about now is not be touched.

U honestly think that this sucker aint going right down into $200 range and possibly even below that?

We aint even seen any panic selling yet....just wait till that kicks in.

I have no idea where the selling ends. I do know that the newsflow and infrastructure etc throughout the year after gox has been overwhelmingly positive and it is difficult to relate the exchange price to progress in the bitcoin economy in general this year. A bear market after a 100x superbubble isn't a surprise. If we break below 266 I will be surprised and a bit disappointed.

My personal view is that the bear market is being exaggerated by some big players who want to get in as cheaply as possible. If that is the case then there is a limit to how low they will suppress the market if they hope to find new bitcoiners to buy the market back up next year without damaging future user adoption significantly. A crash into the low 2xx or 1xx would signal the end of bitcoin as a rising global internet payments currency and payment network. It requires a substantial market cap to make it worthwhile for companies like Dell, overstock, newegg, paypal from using it for customers. I believe silicon valley has become involved due to the global potential of bitcoin going forward. Why else would a 100 billion dollar company like dell implement a payment system that only between 300,000 and 2 million people use globally, especially one with associations to the dark web and cyber crime? The amount of money dell will gain through implementing bitcoin this year is beyond trivial.

I also don't believe that increased merchant adoption is driving the price declines. Miners may add a small amount of sell pressure but it is speculators who are exaggerating the moves. Panic selling? The overwhelming majority of people who were weak hands are out already. We are over 70% down from the ATH. Anyone left is a true believer.

The price could trickle lower, sure. But the market will turn, shorts will burn, trolls will evaporate and a wall of worry bull market will arise. The on ramps have been simpletonified for future users (circle) and bitcoin will be sold as a digital commodity to stock investors via the ETF. I cannot imagine wall street missing out on the immense bubble opportunities bitcoin represents going forward.

COI: purely my opinion!
2979  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN PRICE HAS NEVER INCREASED SINCE IT HIT $1,200 on: October 04, 2014, 03:19:41 AM
I went all in at $168 so im chillin  Cool
I spent mine at 50$ like a derp.

You'll get a chance to buy back lower... no worries! GLTA
Falllling, where should I set my buy orders: $100 or $85?

Funny people keep calling me falling, but from what I see he is a complete idiot, not a master of economics.......
 
So this is what a bottom tastes like! Thank you OP for your wisdom of being very familiar with the taste of a bottom.

Stop changing stories so they sound good for you guys... lmfao!

WE ARE IN FREE FALL STAGE RIGHT NOW. NO BOTTOM IN SIGHT!

Open your eyes the bottom is right under your nose! lol

Yes that's what was said at $1,000 then 900 then 8... 7... 650...600...550...500...450...400... & now even as we get near 350! LOL What will you say at sub $100???

If you can remember all that use your real account and not some newbie one.

The thing is Im not really a forum person... I have been around BTC since the beginning but Im not one to really share my opinions until I seen a massive robbery of everyone who supports this gets technology. I trade stocks and I know a pump and dump when I see one. I can tell them from a mile a way man, that's literally my job, among many other things. As I said many times, I think bitcoin is great in theory but it will continue to get smashed only because of manipulation. I don't just mean price manipulation... Open your eyes guys.

What manipulation other than price manipulation?
2980  Economy / Speculation / Re: [prediction] Next spike $560,000 14 months from now on: October 04, 2014, 03:15:10 AM
Can we expect you to learn? Because your posts don't show that.
Can we expect you to earn? Because your fear doesn't show that.

Every run up confirms adoption, cyclical behaviour. Every correction to higher lows shows support.

Do you even lift?

higher lows??? Wtf are you looking at man, the 5min graph??? 1day-3day-1week charts show all the same thing! Continued downward trend since it almost hit $1200!! Adoption isn't even good for the community right now! Everyone is burning through these coins for fiat!

.......Cute poem or whatever the fuck that is  Huh




The lowest point recently was 365.2 being the most recent bottom

short term (hourly) sellers are running out of steam

long term (3-day) nowhere near the previous low of 339.8

It could still go either way, but the bear case is hardly conclusive right now. Your horizon is so short though, that you seem to forget we have already been this low, this is not new ground. This is trading in a range still.

If we go below 340, then you might have a point. First you have to get below 365.2 though. Until then trading in a range means sometimes we go up (like how we went from 340 to 660 may/june time) and it goes down.


Done deal, We just broke 350... Trust me 340 will be broken before the weekends even done. Do you notice how many times you changed your price target??? You're promoting people to lose a lot of money. We need to keep selling until the mega miners close down! Stop denying it!!!

We arent even at the lowest price of the year yet. Why would anyone in their right mind trust someone on an internet forum, especially an odious little troll like you?  Wink
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