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2961  Economy / Economics / Re: The economy is important for a family! on: March 16, 2022, 11:16:33 PM
But if something happens that we don't want, such as death. By leaving a little treasure to our children, do we need to provide crypto investment education to our children? is it necessary?
Yep, it is really necessary.
That's why we need to educate our children, so they can be independent and survive even though we are no longer with them. If we want to leave them a crypto investment, they need sufficient knowledge to manage them. It will be useless if they have no knowledge to manage the investment, they cannot take any advantage by having it. Learning everything about crypto investment isn't something easy, it must take much time. So, we need to plan to educate our children if they are mature enough to learn about it. In my opinion, it will be easier for them to learn it with our guidance. We also can determine our target for their learning in crypto easily since we monitor their development constantly.
2962  Other / Meta / Re: Lock Russian section. on: March 16, 2022, 10:33:45 PM
The representatives of that nation have no moral right to be on this forum.
I would suggest to ban all Russians from entering this forum and lock Russian section.
Everyone has the right to be a part of bitcointalk forum. Even Satoshi never forbids a certain country or a certain nation to join this forum. So, why we must exclude the Russian section? Russian section is one of the most active sections in this forum, we must appreciate what they have done to this forum. Russian members have contributed to growing this forum, it is strange if we must lock their local section.

Regarding the war (Russian invasion), we cannot blame the Russian citizens. Instead, many of them don't agree with the Russian government to carry out the invasion. In this matter, Russian members in this forum are just ordinary citizens, not a part of the Russian government. They did not participate in the war at all and never did anything to support the war. Why we must punish them?   Huh

2963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: March 15, 2022, 11:59:14 PM
I'm really looking forward to the El Clasico five days later. Real Madrid are already in a great shape and they are fighting for the title hard at the same time. They will want to win this game even if they have some problems on doing it. Barcelona also have been doing great recently. They are not playing like at the beginning of the season. They are seeming to be much stronger than before.
Yep. The upcoming El Classico will be very interesting because both Real Madrid and Barcelona are in their best shape. Both teams also have reputable coaches, so there are no doubts about the quality of the players and the coach. Now, it is all about which team who have a better mentality and can play solidly during the match, will have a higher chance to win. Since Barcelona best lineup is mostly young players and new players, I think Real Madrid is the favorite team to win this El Classico. Moreover, they will play in Santiago Bernabéu, all Real Madrid players will have extra motivation to win. Not only about maintaining their position on the table, but it is also about their prestige.

Hala Madrid  Cool

2964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Round of 16! on: March 15, 2022, 11:55:39 PM
Really disapointing match from Manchester United, i dont know how they cant shoot to the goal , or made a clear chance against  one of the worst Atletico Madrid in a lot of years.
Yep. It is very unfortunate that Man United players cannot make a single goal although they dominated the match. They actually made better stats, 11 shots and 5 shots on target. while Atletico Madrid only made 8 shots and only 3 on target. From the stats, we know that Atletico players have a better finishing accuracy, it was something the Man United players don't have in this match. Well, I don't know what's happening with Man United squad, actually they have some players who have good experience in UCL tournaments. The players like Ronaldo, Pogba, and Cavani must have good accuracy to execute every goal attempt. Sadly, most of them were put on the bench, only Ronaldo became the starter.
2965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Huge Future Bitcoin Holders! on: March 15, 2022, 11:40:42 PM
With over 50 million millionaires across the globe and 21 million BTC , what happens when every millionaire out there gets 1 BTC ?
Half of the 50 is 25 and they can all get the 21million BTC.
We don't know if many millionaires are interested in buying or investing in BTC. There is no data about how many millionaires are involved in BTC investment. But even if half of the millionaires want to have 1 BTC, it won't be a problem. Instead, it will trigger the price of Bitcoin to increase massively because all people will trust more in Bitcoin. Once many millionaires decide to buy Bitcoin, it becomes strong proof that Bitcoin is a trusted asset for our future.

Anyway, it is true that rich people will be richer if they know well how to invest in BTC properly. While middle class and poor people can improve their economic status. So, nothing wrong with this, right? It is even a good way to strengthen our economic level.

2966  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bagaimana Menghadapi Hype Untuk Sebuah Investasi on: March 15, 2022, 11:16:25 PM
Hype yang berjalan pada investasi merupakan hal yang tidak tepat, lebih baik berinvestasi dan menghasilkan keuntungan kecil tetapi stabil, dibandingkan dengan solusi hype tetapi sangat spekulatif, investasi memiliki banyak cara untuk menghasilkan, salah satunya memilih koin potensial untuk di investasikan.
Saya agak sulit memahami bagian ini, saya kira agan bisa memilih cara yang lebih sederhana untuk menyampaikan maksudnya.
Apa maksudnya seperti ini:
"Memilih investasi hanya berdasarkan hype merupakan cara yang tidak kurang tepat. Lebih baik berinvestasi pada koin-koin mapan meskipun keuntungannya relatif lebih kecil, daripada memilih koin-koin hype yang terlalu spekulatif masa depannya."

CMIIW

BTW setiap orang berinvestasi sudah pasti memilih koin yang potensial, Om. Koin hype pun punya potensi keuntungan, walaupun risk nya sangat tinggi. Dalam pandangan saya, gak mungkin ada orang yang mau berinvestasi di koin tersebut jika tidak ada potensi keuntungannya (potensial).

Sebenarnya, hype pada sebuah koin/token itu tidak menjadi masalah selama koin/token tersebut bukan abal-abal. Perhatikan faktor2 fundamentalnya seperti reputasi timnya, MVP atau product yang ditawarkan, partnership, tempat listing koin/tokennya, perencanaan untuk pengembangan proyeknya, dll. Jika hal-hal ini cukup menjanjikan, tidak ada masalah untuk join atau buy koin/tokennya. Tapi perlu memperhatikan target yang ingin dicapai, jika ingin short-term, maka perlu cermat untuk memilih waktu entry dan exitnya. Hype itu tidak akan berlangsung lama, jadi agan harus menganalisa dengan baik kapan waktu terbaik untuk exit.

DWYOR
2967  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Gratis] Sharing dan Konsultasi Masalah Perjudayan (No Bullshit) on: March 15, 2022, 10:55:43 PM
Tidak semua juday hanya berdasarkan peruntungan semata karena diluar sana ada juday yang membutuhkan skills/knowledge/analisa. Misalnya sports betting atau pvp poker, tapi tergantung orangnya juga sih karena ada yang memainkan sports ataupun poker cuma modal nebak dan modal nekad.
Butul. Untuk beberapa jenis permainan juday seperti betting pertandingan sports, poker, atau blackjack, di sini lebih memerlukan skill/pengetahuan. Karena cara mainnya tidak bisa didasari hanya dari tebak-tebakan, wajib punya skill dan pengetahuan yang khusus untuk masing-masing permainannya. Yang mainnya cuman modal nekat, kita bisa kesampingkan karena bukan kriteria ideal untuk pemain yang diperkenankan bermain di situ.

Diluar sana banyak yang berpedoman YOLO dalam juday jadi orang2 ini mending lgsg all in untuk win atau lose dalam sekali atau beberapa kali bet saja. Karena ada yang punya pandangan main berjam2 juga ga akan mempengaruhi luck, jadi daripada wasting time selama 3-4 jam mending all in aja.
Yang model begini, biasanya orang-orang yang waktunya terbatas dan gak ingin menikmati proses permainannya. Sah-sah saja kalo mau sekaligus all in, tapi peluangnnya cuman 50% dan hanya ada 1 kali kesempatan. Kalau gagal, modal langsung habis dan gak ada kesempatan lain. Ya monggo aja bagi yang gak ingin mencoba dengan beberapa kali kesempatan, tapi kalau saya model YOLO ini terlalu gampang gembosin dana.  Grin

2968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: March 14, 2022, 11:59:30 PM
Fans are always an important part of any sport but the thing is fans not playing in the field they are just supporting and shouting.
But what fans do, sometimes gives an influence to the players' mentality on the field.

The actual match is being played by the players. And if they can play better they will win, for me, it's as simple as that.
It is not as simple as that. Sometimes, even if players have done their best, they still cannot win the match because they are not lucky. You must know that sometimes a team that has better stats, more goal attempts, cannot win because they always fail to execute the opportunity. This can happen because the players' mentality isn't as usual, they are under pressure.

I don't want to get into the debate of Galatasaray being better than Napoli or vice versa. Because it's just a waste of time.
If you think it is unnecessary, simply don't comment about it. I don't ask anyone to debate it. I explain it above because I want coderben to know that a strong team on the field doesn't always determine by player popular names.
2969  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Kesalahan Umum Trading Aset Crypto on: March 14, 2022, 11:53:20 PM
Tapi menurut saya untuk menghindari adanya resiko kerugian pada trader yang awam adalah dengan metode skapling
Resiko itu tidak bisa sepenuhnya dihindari, tapi hanya bisa diminimalisir. Untuk meminimalisirnya, perlu punya kapasitas yang mumpuni sebagai seorang trader, baik dalam hal pengetahuan maupun pengalaman. BTW metode skapling ini apa? Saya baru pertama kali dengar ada metode skapling di trading crypto. Yang saya tau, salah satu teknik dalam trading itu adalah Scalping. Trader menggunakan teknik ini untuk mendapatkan fast profit dan meminimalisir kerugian yang besar karena hold terlalu lama. Dengan teknik scalping ini, para trader bisa mendapatkan keuntungan meskipun pergerakan harga di market tidak terlalu signifikan. Walaupun umumnya keuntungannya juga relatif kecil. BTW, untuk menggunakan teknik ini, seorang trader perlu cukup ahli dalam menganalisa pergerakan harga, paham membaca arah charts. Bagi saya, ini tidak recommended untuk trader awam atau pemula.

*Coba baca dulu Om: https://coinvestasi.com/trading-bitcoin/panduan/cara-analisa/7-teknik-trading-bitcoin-untuk-mendapatkan-keuntungan
2970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What stable coin are you into? on: March 14, 2022, 11:44:31 PM
Between BUSD and DAI stable coin which one would you prefer and why? One is centralised and the other is decentralized is there anything else?.
BUSD so far, because it is used in Binance mostly. Although it may not be found in some global exchanges.
However, in the global exchanges, I am still using USDT mostly. Although many people say that USDT is not safe and not recommended, so far, I am still using this for trading and also having no problem with this. However, I am not using it for holding, only for trading.
2971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: March 13, 2022, 11:59:13 PM
This victory makes Barcelona more confident in pursuing the points owned by Sevilla, after Sevilla again failed to win.
Yep. Now, Barcelona must be more confident to overtake Sevilla position on the La Liga standings. If they can get 3 points in the next match, the point gap with Sevilla will be only 2 points. Considering the current performance of Sevilla, it is very possible that Sevilla miss again more points. Moreover, Sevilla will have some difficult matches in the near future. Sevilla will have the match against Real Sociedad on matchday 29, against Barcelona on matchday 30, and against Real Madrid on matchday 32. So, the chance to overtake Sevilla is very very possible for Barcelona.

2972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: March 13, 2022, 11:45:37 PM
But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.
How do you know Napoli is stronger than Galatasaray? Although Napoli has more top players, doesn't mean Napoli is a stronger team compared with Galatasaray. I know Galatasaray has not many top players, but they prove to us that they can play solidly. If they can play like in the previous match, Galatasaray is very possible to eliminate Barcelona. What was happening in Napoli home (Italy), may not happen in Galatasaray home. Especially if you consider Galatasaray has many fanatic fans, this may influence a bit the performance of Galatasaray players that they become to have more motivation to win.

2973  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading should be supported by goverment on: March 11, 2022, 09:58:32 PM
Trading should be supported by goverment
Also should be some kind of reward or insurance kind of system if you lose you dont lose your own funds but they are free this way more people want to trade.
Goverment can easy support traders with traders social support allowonce i name it tssa allowonce monthly to spend like 1000-10k or if you have business account then even more support

If a thing is gonna be like this, the government will really also control cryptocurrencies, will also control our crypto activities. they will ask for the taxes. And when we need insurance for our trading, we must also pay for insurance. And this will be complex, there will be many regulations about this.
And personally, I will not expect this kind of regulation. Trading is at our own risk. When people are deciding to trade, we are deciding to accept the risks also, if we won't the risks, never do trading because trading is also risky.
It is like in the traditional trades in the traditional markets, if they are losing and not getting profits, will they get some insurance from the government? I don't think so, except that they exactly pay for the insurance itself and this may be from certain companies or services.

In my country itself, cryptocurrency is legal as a commodity asset, for trading or investment, both for short and long-term investment, but under our own risks. that is why government always notices that we are doing trading the coins that have good fundamentals, not hype or shitcoins that will lead us to gamble, not trading. We are expected to be more careful because trading is very risky, once we are trading, we have been aware that we should also take the risks.
2974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are NFT Tokens a Good Long Term Investments? on: March 11, 2022, 09:52:36 PM
It all depends on the use case of the NFT token. If you see that the project is just about hype then you need to sell off for profits and be on the safe zone. I know of some NFT tokens with better use cases where users are paid for using some NFTs like sneakers to run or walk. So when you see a use case like the one I stated and imagine that it will blow up in the future. It's a good thing to hold the token. This is applicable to any other token in the market beside NFT tokens. Your main focus should be on your imagination of their use case if it'll be adopted by so many people in the future.
I agree with you. One more, this will depend on what kind of NFT itself. It is similar to the questions of what altcoins are worthy for long-term holding. The answer will be also the same, it will depend on what kind of altcoins they are.
NFT is a new trend, some are rising up because of hype, but some are rising because of its value, with the greater community. NFT also has its own community and this becomes also one of the factors that make the NFT is worthy or not for the long term, including the use of NFT itself.  And some other factors that make the NFT worthy for the long term.
But here, I also cannot say that all NFTs are worthy because some NFTs may be only trash, only rising up because of the hype, value nothing, so many shit NFTs that are given by the airdrops. Moreover, everybody can also create their NFT and sell on the platform easily.
So, be careful when choosing the NFT like being careful in choosing the right altcoins.
2975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Round of 16! on: March 11, 2022, 09:42:48 PM
Manchester United - Atletico Madrid

manchester united is very bad they have problems in every sector of the field, while Atletico Madrid is very good, they managed to recover in the last games, after they drew against manchester united they had two consecutive victories in the league. The athletic is the favorite to win in my opinion
If we consider the current performance of these clubs, Atletico Madrid must be the favorite team to be qualified to the next stage. Atletico Madrid has improved the performance of each sector, especially on the defensive and attacking line. I see some injured players have recovered and are ready to play with their best. It will increase their motivation to win against Man United in the 2nd Leg. While Man United still has a complicated problem both in mentality, solidity, and trust among players. Even I heard rumored, there are Man United players who are not satisfied with their new coach strategy. So, this can have a big impact on their performance during the match. And it was very visible on their last few matches, it didn't look good for sure.

2976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: March 11, 2022, 09:28:19 PM
~this may also affect the result of the match with Osasuna, because now it will be necessary to keep in mind the return match with Galatasaray.
I don't think so. Xavi must evaluate his strategy after the match against Galatasaray, he will try to make a better lineup. Since Barcelona will play against Osasuna at home, Xavi shouldn't want to make Barcelona management and fans be unsatisfied again. Also, it is very crucial to get 3 points in this match, to maintain their position on the table. So, I am very optimistic that Xavi will release their best players and don't think too much about the next Leg against Galatasaray. They have 1 week to prepare everything before the 2nd Leg on Galatasaray home, so don't worry about the next match.

2977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: March 11, 2022, 09:15:33 PM
Don't know what is xavi thinking about , he seems too much making experiments despite yeah it's 1st leg .. he could slipped by conceded a lot of goals and hard to make a comeback in the second leg , luckily it's just another 0-0 draw.
Yep, it was quite lucky that Barcelona only got a draw result in the first Leg. It will be a very bad experiment if Barcelona were conceded 2 goals and couldn't make a single goal in the first Leg. I think Xavi doesn't need to make another speculative experiment when he knows it is very risky, especially it is an international match and it is in the elimination phase. If he wants to try some new lineups or a new strategy, it should be in the group phase, not the elimination phase. Well, just forget the draw result in the first Leg, I think Xavi has got some lessons and he must provide a better lineup in the next Leg (2nd Leg).

2978  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Bitcoin wallet suddenly activates after 11 years on: March 11, 2022, 09:07:17 PM
Yet another anonymous bitcoin transaction of about 489 btc that is worth $20,000,000 million was said to occur from a domant bitcoin wallet address as reported by a tracking bot called "whale alert" with details traced to October 2010 of it last active date, this  was related to the last active date of bitcoin founder Satoshi Nakamoto on the bitcointalk.org forum in December, 2010
To be sincerely with the way it looks from the above quote, one could easily believe its Satoshi haven being in possession of such huge amount as at then and from the look of the price at $0.17 btc worth placed on (hodl) over a very long time, and the wallet it was transferred into remains anonymous. who could have been smarter in doing this other than the founder himself as of then when information and technology of bitcoin ecosystem is premitive to bitcoiners.
This is NOT strong proof if it is Satoshi's wallet. The last active in 2010 and a big number of BTC on the wallet cannot be the reason you can judge it is a wallet related to Satoshi. There should be some people who became the early BTC holders in 2010, not only Satoshi. If you concluded it as a satoshi wallet, simply very hasty. Anyway, since the price of BTC is very cheap in 2010, people must be easy to collect a large number of BTC on their wallets. So, actually, it is not very surprising to see 498 BTC on a single wallet.  Grin

In addition, Satoshi must be smart enough to keep their BTC. He knows if he moves a large number of BTC, it can be monitored by people around the world. And he mustn't sell his BTC in a downtrend phase like the current trend in crypto market. He must sell his BTC when it is in a bullish phase if he wants to sell it.
2979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: March 11, 2022, 12:14:41 PM
The problem with XRP is that it is a speculative token.
Do you think other crypto tokens aren't speculative? Basically, all crypto coins are tokens are speculative, their values are never stable. Even Stablecoins have no fixed prices, their values also change. So, you cannot judge the speculative nature is the problem of XRP. Even speculative nature is the advantage in crypto tokens/coins, it enables us to gain bigger profits.

This is a centralized coin that in my opinion is mistakenly listed with cryptocurrencies.
No, listed XRP on crypto isn't a mistake. In reality, many people are interested to invest in XRP, which means XRP is useful and they believe XRP is a part of crypto that has a good future.

XRP is the electronic equivalent of Fiat.
What do you mean, mate? How can you conclude XRP equivalent of fiat?

In my opinion, this is the main reason for the price drops.
IMO, 2 main reasons XRP drops its price are:
- XRP has a problem against SEC, it is still unfixed
- Bitcoin drops its price, crypto market experiences downtrend

2980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Blame Game in gambling on: March 10, 2022, 11:42:05 PM
I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Agree. Don't blame the gambling companies, gambling companies didn't force anyone to gamble. It is the parents' responsibility to monitor and educate their children to stay away from dangerous things for children. Most gambling companies only allow mature people to gamble, which means minimizing the addictive cases and making sure the gamblers have sufficient knowledge + self-control. So, the gambling companies actually have done a good regulation in filtering out decent gamblers.

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