How much I pay for the DNS system isn't relevant to the discussion. Do you think it's free?
Let's get back on topic. Do you now deny the existence of Bitcoin or do you imply that it is too expensive?
I deny nothing. I am simply stating the fact that Bitcoin doesn't exist. And I gave you an example that proves that your arguments are flawed. I ask you again, does DNS exist? Can you show it to me? And I am saying that it is stupid to pay money just because a number will be attached to your name. Paying for communication via internet is reasonable. That's why we pay our internet providers. Paying for swapping numbers between addresses is not reasonable. So, it's pretty simple.
Now you say over 100 million people around the world are stupid? Wow, talk about arrogance! My point is what I have wrote: if you say that 5 digital(intangible) books or movies exist, you are not supposed to show number "5". But books and movies.
In fact, you can't really show a digital book. Unfortunately, humans do not have the ability to see (or perceive) digital electrical impulses stored and transmitted through electronic circuits. All you can do is show a visual (or audial) representation of digital data, whether it be a digital book, picture, audio recording, or any other data type, including bitcoin. In the same way, if you say that a specific number of digital (intangible) bitcois exists, you're not supposed to show number, but digital products. However, all you can show is a number. Essentially, you are proving that bitcoin doesn't exist.
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... and I am surprised with the Op level of naiveness about Bitcoin.
Don't be surprised. This is nothing new for him. He has claimed the same thing over the past four or five years. [as fxsurfer, antikvark and Antithesis]He must be so stubborn that he won't admit he's been wrong the whole time. I can see how this can drive a man crazy.  |
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Internet is used by nodes to store fake numbers. Without the internet there wouldn't be bitcoin fraud.
I didn't ask you to tell me what is Internet compared to Bitcoin. I asked you to tell me how can you prove that Internet exists? If you can accept the fact that Internet is used for two computers to communicate, then Bitcoin's proof of existence is the fact that it is used to trade. Internet is computers and communication protocols. Those exist. Bitcoin is not "used" given it doesn't exist. Numbers are attached to address by Satoshi's system. Attaching numbers is a proof that numbers are attached. Attaching letters is proof that letters are attached. Attaching a picture to a email message is proof that a picture is attached. No bitcoins magically emerge by attaching one thing to another. You believe in some sort of alchemy. Try to use your brains for a second instead of repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
The Internet exists. Okay, I agree. But does the DNS protocol exist? It is also just a collection of numbers attached to addresses by your definition. Denying the use of Bitcoin is the same as denying the use of DNS. Could you please show me the DNS? No? You can't see it, hear it, or touch it, yet it exists and billions of people use it every day. So, how much do you pay for using DNS protocols? And how much do you pay for attaching the number "10" to your crypto address in Satoshi's system? Do you now understand the true meaning of the phrase: "Your level of your ignorance is astounding."? How much I pay for the DNS system isn't relevant to the discussion. Do you think it's free? Let's get back on topic. Do you now deny the existence of Bitcoin or do you imply that it is too expensive?
Yes, bitcoin doesn't exist. Numbers do, if you attach them to someone's name. So, you cannot show a digital asset called bitcoin. You can show numbers. If you say that 5 digital books or movies exist you are not supposed to show number 5. But books and movies. Can you comprehend something so simple?
Yes, bitcoin is intangible. Everything is digital. What's your point? Has anyone here ever claimed otherwise? But just because you can't touch it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Can you comprehend something so simple?  |
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Internet is used by nodes to store fake numbers. Without the internet there wouldn't be bitcoin fraud.
I didn't ask you to tell me what is Internet compared to Bitcoin. I asked you to tell me how can you prove that Internet exists? If you can accept the fact that Internet is used for two computers to communicate, then Bitcoin's proof of existence is the fact that it is used to trade. Internet is computers and communication protocols. Those exist. Bitcoin is not "used" given it doesn't exist. Numbers are attached to address by Satoshi's system. Attaching numbers is a proof that numbers are attached. Attaching letters is proof that letters are attached. Attaching a picture to a email message is proof that a picture is attached. No bitcoins magically emerge by attaching one thing to another. You believe in some sort of alchemy. Try to use your brains for a second instead of repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
The Internet exists. Okay, I agree. But does the DNS protocol exist? It is also just a collection of numbers attached to addresses by your definition. Denying the use of Bitcoin is the same as denying the use of DNS. Could you please show me the DNS? No? You can't see it, hear it, or touch it, yet it exists and billions of people use it every day. |
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Both of the team members' photos are stock photos and not of real people.   I supported the flag and added a negative tag. I couldn't find their whitepaper, is there an archived version somewhere online? |
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Updating the list with a couple of new Ukraine related scams. - unitedhelpukraine.online [archived]
Registrar: Hostinger, UAB
Created on 2022-03-19
scammer's addresses:
bc1qsuxgvrzsc44lyjea7rd95jcnu62wncdlcxg0cf - helpukraineinwar.com [archived]
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Created on 2022-03-19
scammer's addresses:
BTC: bc1qpxk652svuzxyfr9s47mhqvga78t9d6g7xy09tk
ETH/ERC-20: 0x52dD26fAE5e12df0573312A30B8CA2809d75757f
TRX/TRC-20: TUeWjt8ry2VsKUnHtCHsdohPfw8NuS2znA
LUNA: terra1evmdwf4epu8f4y6vjx60336y607pxhgz9z28md
DOT: 1wVnsZMopywrADej68uR83vHX9uQdMyPX4TDi9XHQ2zjfcV
SOL: GcL2fqX1KRyShYsSn2yv8uhhCoHbUnePxTwKUWMJXqvw
ADA: bnb16agx0scnlsl5engvlla5x96cencnqt4e5k2kmj
DOGE: DU7vPGFYnVczAA9TWRQnsSCztcJL9UzacC
XMR: 42MSFSwKHa94NEMm12gyALUuN8kg9TEyrK7pcF8MnZ1zZPavze948m1hS8cVjkYYwVUkmhcnxDwVJA2 UsFyZVwjc1nwa94K
ICX: hx514923b3e6ce7abd7e704cc2355bddf74520a0e8
CSPR: 0202aacf42dddd932d76ca61e5bada656e27d226245cea1629caabd4211e90b1abc7 - ukrainesupport.life [archived]
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Created on 2022-03-19
- save4ukraine.space [archived]
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc.
Created on 2022-03-20
scammer's addresses:
BTC: 15SEvxg9ZAT8zmLp4wxbELquZYRyiZHoec
TRC-20: THf6hyVgUzHiVC2B2rrbN9vPWLGK5944Kf
ETH: 0xaf81d39fb3b8b21312d2ee128a592276eb947903
- help-ukraine.ooo [archived]
Registrar: Hosting Ukraine LLC
Created on 2022-03-20
scammer's addresses:
BTC: bc1qpqweu9vxyd9ypasnp566n3sz3c7mtppvnk0fjq
ETH: 0x02c1495E7Bbbe252eE15695f6371107097075a12
- ukrainerelieffunding.org [archived]
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc.
Created on 2022-03-20
scammer's addresses:
BTC: 16D1T3Ah1S3Bs1SzqqHTCFHpGU9Tff9i4d
ETH: 0xceB1621492D9Cc9453228a918f1Dd7b848f7df5d
- ukrainesupportaccelerated.in [archived]
Registrar: Endurance Digital Domain Technology LLP
Created on 2022-03-17
scammer's addresses:
BTC: 3DXnKxbKtTyPF3E6jVeNpmvcmJSFroNLM2
ETH: 0x6F60c893250Ffb4c21a074E6CdAF298dAB2234f5
BCH: qzxx5ty3gnyjepc5tp90t5807g65dd5yhvd5hzg4ea
XRP: r9n8aHTB5StrJRfnvz4qVJ1GKAyQwZCMZM
- fight4ukraine.co [archived]
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc.
Created on 2022-03-20
scammer's addresses:
BTC: bc1qrr7xmuccv76c5fxa0vx880at3jfrmjyfh283cl
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Ja to imam na Kucoinu, pojavi ti se i na login screenu i u mailu kojeg ti šalju.
Iako je u teoriji super stvar, doslovno nema šanse da bih skužioo da toga nema da se nekim slučajem ulogiram na krivu stranicu.
Zato mi i je super da na withdrawalu imaš i kod na mailu i 2FA, koliko god iritantno bilo kad moraš sam povlačiti lovu.
To je tvoj problem što ne bi znao da taj tekst mora biti u mailu koji si dobio. Meni je to odlična stvar jer netko tko šalje scam mailove nikako ne može saznati koju riječ koristim kao anti-phishing kod. Jedino kako može znati je ako je upao u bazu podataka i ima popis mail adresa i njihove anti-phishing riječi. Ali prilično sam siguran da bi svaka burza upozorila korisnike kad bi se takav hack dogodio. Moram priznati da je vrlo korisna stvarcica to sa anti-phishing kodom u email. Bas skoro sam imao situaciju sa Hotbit, gde mi se nakacio neki prevarant, odjednom mi je pocela stizati gomila identicnih mailova, gde se zahteva da promenim password. Anti-phishing kod je odradio svoje pa mi je bilo mnogo jednostavnije da ignorisem fake zahteve. Svakako nije veliko opterecenje za upotrebu i treba to aktivirati. Tajna riječ je dobra metoda obrane protiv phishing napada kada neke druge metode padnu, recimo u slučaju DNS server hijackinga. I da, može zakazati samo ako je došlo do hakiranja ili druge vrste curenja podataka iz njihove baze podataka, što je zasigurno mnogo manje vjerojatno. Niti jedna metoda nije sto posto sigurna ali svakako je dobro imati takve višestruke linije obrane. |
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Evo da se pohvalim da sam upao u Jambler kampanju. Moram priznati da sam se jako iznenadio kad sam sinoć dobio poruku na Telegram da sam spomenut u postu u Jambler signature kampanji. Nisam mislio da imam šanse kad sam vidio koliko ima prijavljenih. Sad barem iduća dva tjedna možete biti mirni što se tiče hrvatskog dijela - bit će aktivnosti  Što si se iznenadio? Pa svaki menadžer bi te trebao željeti u svojim redovima. U svakom slučaju, čestitam na upadu u novu kampanju! Samo neka ti potraje što duže. |
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When you ask a question you should base it in reality, not in your fictions. Your question is nonsensical. Both parts of it. In the second part you are mentioning bitcoin. But... where's bitcoin?
The same can be said for your questions as well. Your questions are nonsensical. "Where is Bitcoin?" Bitcoin is a digital currency, like everything else digital, it doesn't exist in the physical world. (There are physical representations of it, for example collectors' items.) It is a type of information stored on digital media. Now, tell me, can you comprehend the concept of information that has value (to someone)? If you cannot, stop wasting our time and yours. If you can, stop using faulty arguments like "bitcoin doesn't exist". To the same extent, no information exists either. Paying for symbols to be attached to your name is a human behavior.
Everything we do is human behavior. Your statement has no relevance. One can as well pay after you sent a number to their email address.
And I'm sure many people are doing just that. You obviously have never worked remotely. |
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Pa ovo je genijalno! Taman je došao kad mi treba neki trol da naštancam postove za kampanju  Nadam se samo da neće brzo nestati ili biti bannan. Zna li netko što se dogodilo s prošlim accountom? Je li bannan ili je odustao na kraju? Evo merit za iskrenost. Hahaha! Ponekad mi stvarno ponestane tema za raspravu a glupo je ponavljati što je već rečeno, i ovakvi trolovi dobro dođu. Ne znam koji je njegov cilj, ali mi barem dobijemo 3-4$ za svako smeće što naštancamo. Koliko vidim, ništa se nije dogodilo s prošlim računima Antithesis i antikvark. Jednostavno ih je napustio i napravio novi. Vjerojatno misli da će na taj način bolje zamaskirati svoje trolanje. Ali MO je isti svaki puta, čak je pripremio i video prezentaciju sa novim YT računom... Idiot. |
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I, evo ga nazad, sada kao Snowshow. Ne mogu vjerovati da postoje ljudi koji misle da je trolanje po raznim forumima i portalima pametan način za provođenje svojeg slobodnog vremena. Pretpostavljam da već pogađate: Bitcoin is a number....
Ma, zapravo, ovaj puta idemo još jedan korak dalje: I was wrong when I said that bitcoin is a number. It's not.
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In this topic I realized that there's no such thing as bitcoin.
Whaaaat!? |
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Like I have said. Human capacity for imaginary creation is enormous. So, some of you are obsessed with some guy that is been trolling in this forum. And now I am that guy because I have stated some facts in this topic. Hahaha. What else are you gonna come up with?
So you're saying you're not that guy? You're not from Croatia (or don't speak Croatian)? I am saying nothing. I have posted rhetorical question because you are saying something about some guy on this topic. You are ignoring the subject of the topic and trying to have conversations about a person. You are imagining something about someone and expect from me to verify your fictions by revealing my personal info. I am simply not playing your trolling game. And that tells me everything. It's really amazing how creative you can be when forced into a corner. Here are a few more details to substantiate my "fiction". A few days before you created a new account here and started this topic, you posted this on Reddit:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/tc0wkg/comment/i0c6edy/You use the nickname "Policajac", which is a Croatian word for policeman. This indicates you are from Croatia or speak Croatian. Both, "fxsurfer" and "antikvark", were active in the Croatian local. Coincidence? |
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Like I have said. Human capacity for imaginary creation is enormous. So, some of you are obsessed with some guy that is been trolling in this forum. And now I am that guy because I have stated some facts in this topic. Hahaha. What else are you gonna come up with?
So you're saying you're not that guy? You're not from Croatia (or don't speak Croatian)? |
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Yes, it's this guy called "Antithesis" who dislikes that we're dealing with a different kind of currency they disapprove of.
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Yea, I'm sure this is the same guy. This genius keeps popping up every now and then with his 'Bitcoin has no value' FUD. He is probably Croatian (or at least Croatian-speaking), but since we've doxed his ass, he no longer has the balls to post in a Croatian local section. The guy works for a government financial agency, so he has some background in economics, but when it comes to anything else he is as thick as a plank. He's been spreading FUD and trolling here for years, and he starts over every time with a fresh new account. Known alt accounts: fxsurfer [BANNED] antikvarkAntithesisSo, don't feed the troll! |
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Bitoin store izgleda mjenja banku s kojom posluje. Tako da ako ste mislili online raditi neke transakcije požurite se napraviti ih preko vikenda. Taman imate vremena da vam prođu u ponedeljak ujutro prije nego prestane suradnja.
Koliko vidim iz poruke, mjera je privremena i fiat transakcije će se vjerojatno nastaviti vrlo brzo. Ali slažem se, bolje je spriječiti da vam novac ne ostane 'visiti' na nekoj platformi bez veze. Hvala za info! |
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 Zna netko o čemu se radi? Pa sve je lijepo napisano u poruci: Ova odluka je donesena zbog promjene pružatelja bankarske usluge i platnog prometa u Hrvatskoj. Što ti nije jasno? Mjera je privremenog karaktera i uplate i isplate fiat valuta putem bankovnih transakcija će se vjerojatno nastaviti preko nove banke. |
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As this is a very serious allegation, I added my support for the flag and another negative trust rating to their profile. I will reconsider if they provide a valid explanation.
By the way, good investigation, @Rikafip and @SFR10.
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It's not about the post got paid or not, but you create those thread intended only to earn merits for applying a campaign.
So why do I locked it and move it directly to the archive? I hope that the administrators have access to log time of moving topics, but the number of views proves that no one has seen them, so how will I get merits? If you hadn't moved the topic to Archival, you would have violated the forum rules by duplicate posting and self-plagiarism. Honestly, I don't buy your explanation. Whether it was for merit hunting or not, this isn't an appropriate use of the forum. If all you wanted to do was test your bot, you could do it with just one topic, not a dozen. Anyway, I will continue to do this using a bot account @Husires_bot ...
I strongly advise you not to do this. |
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