Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)
What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining Only on the ETH algorithm, nothing else is as picky about memory - but it likely will easily beat the 1070 and MIGHT argue or even beat the 1080ti on ETH mining (the 1070 beats the 1080 on ETH due to that GDDR5X). It should fall in just a HAIR under the 1080 and easily beat the 1070 on everything else. My pair of Aorus GTX 1080ti cards (the BASE Aorus, not the higher-clocked version) pull about 780 sol/s at 250 watts (100% tdp), +100 core +150 mem, after a fair bit of tweek testing the core and memory settings seem to be optimal for it on ZCash. They still pulls 720 at 200 watts TDP (80%) and the "efficiency knee" seems to be somewhere in the 150 watt (620 sol) to 175 watt (680 sol) range. One is in my game system running Win7, the other in my experimental B250 Mining Pro riser rig running XUbuntu LINUX - but the stats are the same give or take measurement limits. Even pushing, I've never gotten an Aorus to go much over 70C on 80% fan even with a 90F ambient - and the one in my gaming machine has never gone over 66C or so since it's in an air-conditioned room at around 80F ambient in a case with good airflow. My Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1080ti pulls close to those numbers, but falls down some on the high end as it overheats faster and can't maintain boost as well - and it runs 3-4C hotter unless I pump the fan up to 90% or so. Up side, it's only 8+6 for power connection instead of 8+8 for the Aorus. Best I've seen out of a 1070 was around 450 ballpark, some folks have claimed a lot higher but they apparently have had a lot better luck on getting their memory to overclock a lot than I have. I guess it’s more or less up to what you’ll want to mine in the end, then. I’d still recommend possibly getting a 1080 over a 1070 ti if pricing stays as it is (mostly because of mining flexibility and perhaps better resale down the line) and until we actually get reliable and confirmed mining hashrate reports here. Forgot to specify Ethereum there, mining profitability has shifted a lot in the last few months  |
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I'm having a similar problem but flashing firmware (both to newer and back) don't seem to help.  Have 2 other miners working and I have copied and pasted settings for pools, I have also tried different PSU's. Are the other miners in the same batch? Copying firmware from those miners might not work anyways because of minute batch differences. Find the batch number of the affected miners and download the firmware from Bitmain for them if that’s the case. https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720160511022802617GoPmQhNb06CF |
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When the LTC price jumped and difficulty was still low a few months ago it was possible to turn a tiny profit but nowadays the newer ASICs with better efficiency outperform this to the point that this is no longer profitable. Besides this, this doesn’t belong in the Bitcoin Hardware section.
true, it's not longer efficient, however, u can use such miner to mine new unlisted coins. Why would you when you can get bigger miners for less per megahash and way better efficiency or just rent hashpower from Nicehash for that? This makes no economical sense anymore and the people who own these are just trying to get rid of them. Unless you already have one don’t use or buy it. |
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Exactly, I can understand newbie spam accounts filling the thread up with bullshit speculation, but I can't understand someone like leo doing it.
Really all posts should be based from an EXTREME negative perspective on this scam, there is no wriggle room or perhaps or maybe, its just a bullshit scam and should be approached from that angle.
I like to be somewhat optimistic about things, guess I also fell for the newbie fake posting this time. I’ll go and delete that post. We really should get this thread locked if possible though. I don’t know what got into me with this thread. |
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When the LTC price jumped and difficulty was still low a few months ago it was possible to turn a tiny profit but nowadays the newer ASICs with better efficiency outperform this to the point that this is no longer profitable. Besides this, this doesn’t belong in the Bitcoin Hardware section.
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Static pressure fans and/or high rpm and cfm fans could make it possible but the system might be on the loud side. You'll want a large, possibly full tower case with as many fans as needed to keep the heat down (depends on how many GPUs are running, I'd suggest maximum for emergency purposes if one somehow breaks). I'm no expert at closed systems and I never will be because it's unconventional, but I'd stay away from anything under 40 cfm or so. This might be a good starting point. https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16835181116/specs?ignorebbr=0Now for two GPUs one or two of these along with the preinstalled fans in a system will be fine. The question is what you'll be running in the future and how many you will be running. |
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It's a highly risky move that shouldn't be done by selling everything and gambling. You're fucked if the price doesn't move (granted, they've already technically made a small profit). The system is collapsing but you're in shambles for a bit if price temporarily goes down. Bitcoin is still the future, though, and no government will stop it.
I'm not a supporter of going absolutely all in on Bitcoin.
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A PSU cannot mine by itself.
Now, for powering GPUs, it does a good job but there are better and more high wattage solutions available for less. They might be louder but they'll likely have better efficiency + possibly be more reliable than what Bitmain is cranking out. Server PSUs are what you'll want.
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I sold my BCH at .07 so I definitely didn't get .16 per BCH. I'd rather go safe with my free crypto than slow. I have no other use for them anyways and there really isn't any use for it except buying bitmain miners with em, so I don't regret selling there at all.
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the only thing wrong with ebay is that prices are always high. Other than that, eBay's buyer protections make the site okay for buying. The miners sold there are pretty much as good as buying from anywhere else as long as the miner's actually working.
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The S3 has long sold out (couple years ago in fact)! December is pretty long to wait for an L3 with quickly changing LTC prices. If you're still looking for an S3 some forum members in the Computer Hardware section could have some, put up a buy thread and you should get a decent offer for one. They're the last reliable and quiet miner Bitmain ever made and will probably ever make. It all went down from there to what we have now.
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which gtx 1070 ti would be the best model for air cooling? MSI titanium/gaming or the duke tripple fans? The evga sc black looks a bit whimmpy on cooling but it's the evga brand which is the best and tends to have the highest score reviews. evga FTW2 looks great but too expensive $500.
I am not sure which one is the best/value card to get. I want something that will have best air cooling and best resale value down the road.
I'd go with the Duke if you really want the card. Gaming X is roughly about the same as the Duke in cooling and performance. More fans can never hurt on a GPU as long as the cooling is adequate. |
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Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)
What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining, economically and gaming wise it doesn’t make sense to buy this thing either. IIRC 5 was better than 5X out of the box with the 1070 and 1080, not sure how it is now. |
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The price of these cards is so ridiculously close to the 1080 it’s probably not even worth buying considering it doesn’t even use GDDR5X. You’d be a fool to buy these cards; nVidia only made it to try to kill Vega anyways. It was never supposed to exist. For ~30 extra dollars you get massively improved vram performance, more CUDA cores, better mining performance.
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Bitmain wants to keep BCH alive for political reasons and to keep their shitcoin profitable for mining when EDA comes online for an extra profitability boost on the SHA256 chain. It’s annoying as hell but also a reminder that more competition in the area of miners is always great. One entity with too much control can create issues we see today like S2X in Bitcoin.
Maybe we’ll even see S2X payment only when that mistake comes out.
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Is it more cost effective to buy a dedicated miner rather than setting up ur own desktop?
Is it even possible to set your won close to profitable desktop machine? I doubt for the time being; it was possible a few years ago before the ASICs came into the world. You can still mine Bitcoin with desktops but you’re burning money for nothing. You might get a penny a year. Desktops really shine in altcoins where cpu and GPU mining can indeed be profitable, but this isn’t the bitcoin mining section after all. For possibly profitable bitcoin mining an ASC is required. |
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I'd move this to mining speculation instead of hardware where it is now personally, has not much to do with hardware discussion.
What are your electrical costs and are you okay with having vacuum cleaners running 24/7 in your house? Do you plan on getting hosting? If the first two things I just said are not applicable to you, don't mine. Crypto is profitable in other areas too, like trading or straight up HODLing. Home setups are noisy and trust me, any decent setup with no soundproofing will make your house sound like a data farm. Hosting is possible, but you don't have as much control over your miners. Cloud mining is oftentimes a scamand I only trust Hashnest because of that. Finally, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Diversify where you put your coins, even if you do choose to mine.
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BTG will hit 0 soon enough when they actually release the info to access coins on other wallets like Trezor, Electrum, etc. Unless another BCH style pump comes and saves it by the time next week rolls around it’ll be worth a couple dollars. Probably won’t even be worth the time to collect your free BTG by then.
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1415 USD for the next batch S9 in bitmain website, but as usual you cant order due to the heavy traffic towards site.
Chinese business model is so so so outdated, if they would have invested in a proper server they would sell x3 times faster, but no of course...
The site is loading slower than usual, true, but it’s not crashing or anything. It’s somewhat to be expected when you have thousands of people and bots trying to check out st the same time, of course their servers will be a little bit overloaded. Bitmain is still taking BCH only. I’ll post here when they take BTC again, they probably won’t for a long time. |
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