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What were the critical blockages in thought, or the zietergiest (sp?) that meant 1 entity person satoshi out of nowhere produces a theory and working solution to a holy grail problem.
I am left strachting my head to think of the last time this happened.
Why was no solution found earlier, I mean there are UNI's/Companies/Gov's full of cyrpo/maths/com sci and really really smart people.
Yet zip.
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My goodness!
All this nightmare!
After sending few to theymos, it was the last one that caught his attention!
I simply included what paraipan said by including actuall transaction in proving it was generated from other country!
I also link to this discussion! It did it job. Thank!
I want to express my gratitute towards paraipan and jubalix (for edit his post for removing my user name)
Including moderators I guest!
I also apology toward shijaii to comment made to him!
However, for being accused as "SCAMMER" for first, it took and ugly turn and I don't need apology toward hostility in this regards.
All those suppose PM's were not sent me as paraipan including theymos agreed!
Hi no worries, I was very careful to say you were not a scammer, and that your account could have been hacked!!!! I always get the facts before makeing claims, and I am passionate about you having the have a right of reply in the open forum!!!! |
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Hi GLD'Rs
I like the GLD community, it looks like a solid build to acceptance rather than a hype coin. A pleasant change!
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Okay Guys,
Let's conclude this part of the thread:
can we call this the free market foundation, I nominate me as Prez |
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Brain wallet plus encrypted backup on multiple online services.
Needs no trust, is resistant to fire and doesn't have a singular point of failure. Well, the singular point of failure is you being unable to reproduce your password (due to forgetting it, or dying, or some accident causing brain trauma, etc). I personally used some kinda time lock construction for this scenario - if I show no sign of life for 3+ months, the password for my truecrypt container will be emailed to my family. Or well, part of it, including an explanation how to get the rest that only they will understand. what service do you use? also would that service if online have access to passwords then?  |
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Now this isn't about CNC specifically.
It's just an example of an alt coin that has absolutely no community support, no dev and no speculative future.. but yet remains on an exchange.
So two scenarios:
1.
An exchange can leave an alt coin on their site forever.
It gets pumped/dumped between .0005 - .0015 until the end of time.
Yet too many coins clutter their site and make them look greedy and unprofessional.
2.
I haven't seen a second scenario yet since I am unaware of any alt coin that has been removed from a bigger exchange such as BTC-e.
Please enlighten me; your thoughts?
They have no reason to remove it, tbh. It's not costing them anything to keep it on there, and as long as people continue to trade it, they continue to make $$ off the fees they charge. If people stopped trading it, then they would probably remove it this + |
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there you go then so what you complaining about. TBH you're design was too messy. If before anyone deserved credit it was the frank guy not you because imo his design is different
I never called it was perfect and I had to fit a lot of info in for the design that was needed at the time, so you have a valid criticism. |
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To be the opposite of a premine, and achieve optimal distribution of a coin how should this be done?
On one hnad it would be good to be able to give out coins to people in a thread, bu this is open to multiple accounts, and if date limited stops new users
Limiting a few people at the beginning, because they have high hash, seems bad, but then they are likely techically probably good, and have a vested interest in making that coin work.
Ripple having all the "coins"(yes not a crypto coin) is the extreme of the extreme, yet it still seems to be worth quite a bit, versus the give away, is this because of the committed dev?
open to suggestions,
it would be nice to have a gold standard as to what constitutes the best launch model or models!!!!
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I'm a celebrity! Can I increase the bounty to have a flashing broadway-lit boarder around mine? I want people to feel special when they choose to ignore me. why does it say untrustworthy??? because of ignores? No, it says untrustworthy because accounts on the forums can have "custom titles". Mine is set by Theymos because his personal opinion is that I'm untrustworthy. so it should be clarrified, in the opinion of theyoms and you should be afforded a right of reply in a similary public manner also, you paid 5btc for the ignore function and then go ignored by it? ? really I think there should be +ve as well as -ve clicks, eg likes and ignores |
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I'm a celebrity! Can I increase the bounty to have a flashing broadway-lit boarder around mine? I want people to feel special when they choose to ignore me. why does it say untrustworthy for Matthew N. Wright??? because of ignores? |
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Bitcoin IS WWIII.
WWIII is happening now. Team America World Police is getting the job done  Hive mind |
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I fear that with WW3 comes a loss of internet/network........
Andy B
we are in wwIII its just a lot more urban and state against the people war wwIV is the next one |
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there youre bothered so much, i was planning on changing it in the morning but ive done it now. check the links of both theyre very different. You honestly think im going to give you credit for some colors?
colors, freeze panes, layouts, yes I am bothered about those it takes time, see original that I did, to fit everything in and you thought it was good enough to use. Every design is just colors However you have now made your own original version now so no problems for me. |
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hi I see your using my design!!! You can use it but give due credit by inserting my name on the google doc page and thread please as shown in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApsoE5YJ8sR-dExxblFBZ0JWczJNdWhDM2NsVDM1UkE#gid=15eg me as origonal designer you can be the modifier as you have modified it a little people generally make some sort of token fee to use eg when the FTC guy used it he sent me 500 FTC As you appreciate it takes time to do you may also like the some of the original front end it looks better than this one which was slightly moded by some one else |
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My apologies for the length of this post, but I believe that it sums up what is broken with the Foundation, shows it is essentially unfixable, and includes at the end a call to action to form a new, democratically-constituted umbrella organization for the advancement and defense of cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin first and foremost among them. I also believe you will find it valuable reading, if you're not already closely familiar with the matters at hand. "Outgoing" Bitcoin Foundation Executive Director Peter Vessenes, aka "vess" here, @vessenes on Twitter, states in video from Bitcoin 2013 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I6jfPXFAToM) at 5:23 that the Foundation will be hiring a lawyer to lobby regulators in Washington DC: https://twitter.com/mikegogulski/status/335820053926797312As I wrote: #BitcoinFoundation is DEAD TO ME. Lobbyists? Fuck you @Vessenes shyster sellout! Give my BTC 25 back! http://ow.ly/lai8e #Bitcoin2013 Then: And: I got into #Bitcoin to improve this miserable planet and ESCAPE the iron grip of privileged moneyed interests, not JOIN THEM! #Bitcoin2013 And: And @Vessenes sues @MtGox for $75m. Send the king's swordsmen! I need more money! #Bitcoin2013 #Bitcoin #betrayal #rat #statist #sellout Plenty more follows in my tweet stream, and includes a conversation with Smári McCarthy of the International (formerly Icelandic) Modern Media Institute ( http://www.immi.is/). I provided more of my reasoning (after a nice barbiturates-and-vodka cocktail and a bit of sleep) on Google+, in comments on Declan McCullagh's article ( http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57585151-38/winklevoss-twins-on-bitcoin-time-to-work-with-the-feds/) from today: TL;DR: Sending Bitcoin to DC is like sending My Little Pony to the veterinarian. +Jon Matonis Despite my rantings, for me it's not about purity either, but about the Foundation running off in a direction starkly counter to the motivations of a good many members, without any consultation at all. I believe I also heard +Peter Vessenes say, in that opening pitch, that there would be a Bitcoin Foundation members' meeting during the conference. I guess that means that I'll be getting an invitation with a teleconference number soon(?). +Jerry Brito and +Declan McCullagh Yes, the exchanges are a vulnerable point, almost a "systempunkt" in John Robb's terminology, the resiliency of the underlying protocol aside. At the same time, it's already widely recognized that the best solutions to that sort of risk in the Bitcoin ecosystem involve peer-to-peer fiat/BTC exchange on the lines of #bitcoin-otc, localbitcoins.com and/or some kind of price discovery and exchange mechanism, with market actor reputation tracking, working in distributed fashion either in the BTC blockchain itself or as part of some kind of complementary system based roughly on the same principles. It's into those kinds of solutions that I'd like to see funding from whatever replaces the now toxic Bitcoin foundation and where I'd like to see the massive amounts of human energy that will otherwise be sucked into the interdimensional tentacle-monster maelstrom of KYC/AML/FinCEN/FATF/make-it-play-in-Peoria compliance (vendor AND customer side) spent. As +Nick Weaver alludes to, Bitcoin really is fundamentally incompatible with the pharaonic pyramids of the legacy banking system, or, in my parting words from last night, sending Bitcoin to DC is like sending My Little Pony to the veterinarian. Even though we lot on this thread may share similar ideas about the ideal end state for Bitcoin, I think we all agree that the means to reach those ends are important as well. There is clear disagreement about what sorts of means are the most efficient in bringing us all to shiny happy crypto-ponycoin utopia, and that's fine. I'm asking folks to consider the entire picture very carefully, and especially not with America-centric blinders on. I could go on to complain (but won't do so here, hehe) that the Bitcoin core dev team -- and, by extension, the Foundation which pays +Gavin Andresen -- are, in my opinion, spending a disproportionate amount of time/energy on work which primarily benefits a small number of mining pool operators (taken collectively, another systempunkt!) and on work which tends more and more to support centralized and institutionalized structures such as BitPay and BitInstant -- with all due respect to those teams -- and to toward the deprioritization of work support independent merchants and the actual peer-to-peer future. Perhaps this is simply a disagreement regarding how to sequence priorities, but I can't help but think it points to the same sort of issues I mention above, which actually turn out to be key ones as indicated by others. +Jerry Brito "Allowed" is a hobgoblin. Bitcoin doesn't need permission from the existing state/corporate financial system. In fact, it presents an existential threat to both. Fine, though, send some "diplomats" out to spread confusion in the enemy's ranks. And to +Jeffrey Tucker, it is indeed sad that freedom itself is simply unthinkable, where in a proper society it would be the reflexive, unconsidered default posture and where that society would react swiftly and forcefully to deviations from its principles. Alas, even with several thousand years of thought and experience to guide us, we have not yet collectively made the freedom posture the default. ( https://plus.google.com/u/1/112961607570158342254/posts/YLe37k7vonQ) CLEARLY, Bitcoin no longer needs the Bitcoin Foundation as it's currently constituted, and it is probably too toxic to be salvaged in any form. The conflicts of interest among directors should make this perfectly clear. Plus, we now have Vessenes suing Karpeles over the MtGox/Coinlab deal while they are both on the same board. They both should have resigned immediately at the time the suit was filed and served. Even worse, and utterly inexcusably, Peter Vessenes hired Patrick Murck as the Foundation's general counsel. This of course is the very same Patrick Murck who serves as Coinlab's General Counsel, and who is therefore Coinlab's top litigator in the suit against MtGox. And, worse still, this is yet the same Patrick Murck who drew up the Coinlab/Bitcoinica/Bitcoin Consultancy deal which turned into such a massive clusterfuck that exactly none of the players involved emerged in any other manner than smeared with shit from head to toe. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196150.0;all) Note also that NONE of these highly controversial acts and omissions were placed before votes of the Foundation's membership, in radical contravention of the founding spirit of the organization if not the language of its founding charter. THUS, IMHO, and as a Foundation Life Member, I hereby move that the Foundation dissolve itself, immediately, and enter into a binding legal plan to reimburse all donors proportionately, once legitimate expenses and outstanding debt incurred to date is covered. Additionally, I move that the Foundation immediately terminate all relations with Peter Vessenes, Mark Karpeles (sorry, dude) and Patrick Murck, and that Jon Matonis be appointed interim Executive Director, to serve during the company's receivership and through it's final dissolution as a legal entity.And I am ready to support a new organization which actually serves the interests of Bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies, as appropriate), with such egregious conflicts of interest excluded from decision-taking power and with a broad umbrella missing to accommodate ALL of the Bitcoin community, not just those who are only too delighted to cuddle up to regulators and politicians on the little-guy donor's coin. The new organization shall operate democratically from day zero. I move that Jon Matonis be named custodian of founding donations and that he shall serve, once and only once, as Chairman of the founding, general meeting of the entire membership, at which a full charter and a full set of by-laws shall be adopted and a new slate of directors and executives elected, such meeting to be held not less than 60 days from now and not less than 120 days from now, and to include the technical capacity for as many voices as possible to participate and be heard (that is founding-donors-only google hangout, IRC channel, toll-free teleconference linked to a skype teleconference, etc.). Who's with me?I just don't see the point let the foundation do whatever they want. Just start your own Bitcoin foundation |
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Just watched it list real time, it didn't even get a decent high offer for first trade and sellers climbing over each other to sell of BTC
Hype much.
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Will WDC meet the same problems as FTC/TRC as to high Diff?
just putting it out there
TRC and FTC have different problems, I suggest you look into each before asking such a general question. When it comes to difficulty adjustments the two are extreme opposites. TRC adjusts ever 30 blocks FTC every 504 (was 2016) well TRC maybe initially but then it went for exponential smoothing *I* did look, in fact more than that I coded a fork for TRC just in case |
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WDC will never face the same problem for quick difficulty retarget.
TRC had quick re targeting and it got realllly stuck |
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Will WDC meet the same problems as FTC/TRC as to high Diff?
just putting it out there
WDC adjusts difficulty every 8 hours, so no. If for some reason miners all leave WDC (highly doubt), then the difficulty will adjust to keep the fast transactions.. It's a pretty good design that I haven't seen in other coins.. didn't trc have this system and got completely screwed... |
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