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2981  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [NEW] PonziBTC.org | Secure SSL & AUTOMATED | 135% INSTANT | Last one gets 200% on: January 30, 2015, 02:52:27 PM
Thanks.
End of stupid questions.

 Smiley
2982  Other / New forum software / Keyword tagging related threads on: January 30, 2015, 02:30:23 PM
Some blogs feature "keyword" links with new posts, so that the reader can cross reference other articles on the same topic.

I was thinking that it would be useful on the new forum, seeing how multiple posts on the same topic can be missed sometimes.
The "related articles" aspect of Google news is sort of what I mean, but tagged threads listed by popularity, not randomly.
Although a bit of a train wreck in itself, the recent Woodcollector saga springs to mind but generally, especially with news, people dash to post something without checking whether or not the subject has been covered.
Obviously too general tagwords like "Bitcoin" would be pointless.
I don't know how, but could thread merging be incorporated somehow too?
Just trying to think of how to achieve maximum relevant info on a subject without being at the mercy of "Search" all the time.
2983  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [NEW] PonziBTC.org | Secure SSL & AUTOMATED | 135% INSTANT | Last one gets 200% on: January 30, 2015, 12:39:57 PM
The last deposit was made on 2015-01-30 08:22:33 UTC, so the round will end on 2015-01-31 08:22:33 UTC if there is no more deposit.
New round will be ready about 6-10 hours later. Countdown will included on site.

if another deposit is made just before 2015-01-31 08:22:33 UTC and the clock restarts for another 24 hours, will the scheduled new round still start on time, before the old one finishes?
2984  Other / Off-topic / Re: Thanks for all- Good luck. on: January 30, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
Good Luck

 Smiley
2985  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [NEW] PonziBTC.org | Secure SSL & AUTOMATED | 135% INSTANT | Last one gets 200% on: January 30, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
What's the situation now: when does the 24 hours expire and how big is the last bet currently?

The last deposit was made on 2015-01-30 08:22:33 UTC, so the round will end on 2015-01-31 08:22:33 UTC if there is no more deposit.
https://blockchain.info/address/1CmsFCvDs3jtJC2oq5XUyiL1bQVmmLem82

Thanks.

And the last bet was .001.
So if another deposit is made before 2015-01-31 08:22:33 UTC then the 24 hour countdown will start again?
2986  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [NEW] PonziBTC.org | Secure SSL & AUTOMATED | 135% INSTANT | Last one gets 200% on: January 30, 2015, 11:11:22 AM
Last one gets 200%


I'm interested in this.
What's the situation now: when does the 24 hours expire and how big is the last bet currently?
2987  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can I hold a short position for months or years ? on: January 30, 2015, 11:04:46 AM
yes you can hold them for months/years
but make sure you are trading with legit and reputable companies that will not run with your money

Depends what country you are in, but in the UK you can trade a BTC 'tracker' derivative with fiat margin off exchange, no need for wallet, transfers etc. on long established multi million backed platforms.

Search CFD (contract for difference) trading.

The problem with CFDs are they are mostly run by market makers most of whom are not known to be scruplous. I don't know of a CFD operator that correctly publishes their current volume and if the contracts you are trading does have good volume then yes, fine for short term holding; for long term they tend to apply all sorts of charges.

Correct my impression of CFD operators if outdated or not correct.

Thanks

I hear what you're saying.
The CFD industry (which I'm certainly not shilling for) has been around for 40 years now and a big player like IG has a market cap of £2.6 billion and is publicly listed. They took a £25 million hit on the recent Swiss Franc black swan and shrugged it off, whereas one or two smaller outfits went to the wall.
I guess the lesson is to use the big guys, despite a natural inclination to support smaller ventures.
Sure, there are costs of holding long term positions, but that's the nature of things. It depends on personal factors whether you think the overall package is worth the cost.
I'm a full time short term trader and some of the things I see them do, stop hunting etc. irritate me, but then I remind myself that I'm dealing with a bookmaker.
Volume disclosure is only important to me for trading analysis and I get that from the underlying asset stats.
They make reasonable spreads 24/7 and I am not big enough to see any liquidity problems.
Also, the tax situation is clean and simple.
Spread betting (as opposed to CFD) profits are tax exempt, although losses aren't allowable.

TL:DR
Derivative trading is simple and can be useful where the underlying asset (like bitcoin) infrastructure is opaque. Trade with the big guys, keep your wits about you and remember, as they all say  "losses can exceed your deposit".
2988  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ***[BTC] [LTC] [DGC] [DRK] Cloud Mining***SKYCOINLAB.COM*** on: January 29, 2015, 10:01:00 PM
From very good person Mike's Google+

We are the #1 bitcoin Network Marketing program. We provide valuable education about bitcoin, cryptocurrency,mining, personal development and network marketing.
Get your bitcoin with us today http://www.bitcoincycler.net/Skycoinlab


https://plus.google.com/110365658930595040182/posts

Bitcoincycler don't say much about hash rates, difficult or maintenance costs.
They do say a lot about MLM referral structure, which is all about making money thru matrix 'pyramid' recruitment and nothing about mining Bitcoin.


https://www.bitcoincycler.net/

2989  Economy / Reputation / Re: Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB on: January 29, 2015, 09:39:50 PM
Wow this thread went from being a simple topical flamewar to a mud-slinging fest which appears nonsensical even to me who has participated before.

What the hell?
Right... I keep running out of popcorn.

Bitcoinland.......unfuckingbelievable.
2990  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: January 29, 2015, 08:50:18 PM

In other news, Skycoinlab tried to win a point in my scoring by disclosing domain name registration info.
Which only lead me to find out the guy behind it is a serial ponzi organiser:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583177.msg10298730#msg10298730

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

Funnily enough, I came across the MLM world myself just recently, when I followed im0rtel's (the MineThatCloud shill) strange sig.
It led to "BitClub Network, a Passive Bitcoin Mining Opportunity" (7/7 on the Puppet Scale)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762075.msg10260402#msg10260402

If you were to think that "passive" here refers to the ease of having a cloud mining contract, you would be wrong.
It's classic MLM (Multi Level Marketing) speak for a matrix referral program.
Briefly, MLM's are similar to Ponzi's but distribute the suckers' money amongst themselves by moving up thru levels.
This is a huge industry worldwide, recruitment done by high pressure selling to naive investors and "Bitcoin mining" is perfect material for them.
Just to give an idea of how they view Bitcoin mining, have a look at  https://www.bitcoincycler.net/ 
Go to the Comp Plan page, they hardly mention hashrate or difficulty, it's all about referral levels and marketing bullshit.

BitcoinCycler is "sponsored by Skycoinlab", as is made clear on Lavoie's Google+ page, he runs them both https://plus.google.com/110365658930595040182/posts.

And as the http://behindmlm.com/ scambusters report, both Skycoinlab and BitClub Network operators have their roots in the $500m Zeek Rewards ponzi.
These people are thieving filth.
2991  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [NEW] PonziBTC.org | Secure SSL & AUTOMATED | 135% INSTANT | Last one gets 200% on: January 29, 2015, 06:25:54 PM

So if You are interested: Good luck and don't be one of the last!
Or be the last because last one gets 200%  Wink

(If noone sends any deposits after Your deposit for more than 24 hours
You will get back 200% of Your deposit. We can cover it with fees!)


So you say that ^^, but mean this

For example:
Total deposited: 20 BTC
The last person sends 1BTC, and I need extra 1 btc. (We earned only 0.5btc(2,5%*20BTC))
So this person gets only 0.5 btc

So, which is it, 200% back, or 200% back if you can afford it?

Also, will the round ever end?
If the last deposit is 1 btc, you could put in .001 yourself and save a fortune........


2992  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can I hold a short position for months or years ? on: January 29, 2015, 05:04:20 PM
yes you can hold them for months/years
but make sure you are trading with legit and reputable companies that will not run with your money

Depends what country you are in, but in the UK you can trade a BTC 'tracker' derivative with fiat margin off exchange, no need for wallet, transfers etc. on long established multi million backed platforms.

Search CFD (contract for difference) trading.
2993  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 28, 2015, 08:25:08 PM
Your only option is to try to find out who owns the address they were sent to and ask them to send the BTC back.

He knows that, it's cloudmining.website, a some would say dubious cloud mining operation.
They don't disagree that they have the coin and say that management will make a decision in the next 24 hours.

  http://forum.cloudmining.website/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42&p=187#p187
2994  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 28, 2015, 06:48:59 PM

These coins originate from the Bitstamp hack.

2995  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sent 20 BTC by mistake. Please help. on: January 28, 2015, 02:02:08 PM
It is not reversible ( that's true) but he can work out  with the support ant request a sort of  "refund".

He has, management are now trying to work out how many hookers they can get for 20BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.msg10287779#msg10287779
2996  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website is offering 1 GHs @ 0.001 BTC | 5% affiliate commission on: January 28, 2015, 11:34:17 AM

Quote
Thank you for providing the details. As I can see, there is no mining payout made so far against your order. We can not refund a order if mining payout begins. But, in your case, it has not yet started. I need to discuss this issue with the management. In the mean time your payout may begin. So, can I dissociate your order mapping from the mining block ?

You can almost hear from here the ass kicking that admin is getting for depriving them of an excuse not to return it.
Interesting situation.
2997  Other / Off-topic / Re: Age of bitcoin users. on: January 28, 2015, 10:46:24 AM
I did a poll a little while back

Sample size 91.

<14     5
15-20  22
21-30  34
31-40  17
>40    13   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845357.100
2998  Economy / Gambling / Re: Why do ponzi games here end so quickly? on: January 27, 2015, 08:35:30 PM
Normal ponzi schemes aren't like this at all. They typically go on for days, weeks, and sometimes even years. Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme lasted for almost two decades.

Yeah, that's what we need, proper Ponzi schemes that steal millions, not these crappy cheap copies.

 Cry
2999  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BitClub Network - Passive Bitcoin Mining Opportunity NOW LIVE! on: January 27, 2015, 07:21:08 PM
Funny how you find things, isn't it? Just wondering what crap im0rtel was shilling, ended up here.
Look what I found:

BitClub Network is an offshore scheme seeking to fleece investors under the guise of “let us explain Bitcoin mining to you”, with the mining itself (if any actually exists) having little to nothing to do with the flow of funds within the scheme.

Whilst the owner(s) of BitClub Network are for now are sticking to the shadows, there’s evidence that factions of the Zeek Rewards Ponzi scheme might be behind it.

Under the YouTube account “BitClub Network Pro”, old hand T. LeMont Silver is marketing himself as the “top leader” in the scheme.


http://behindmlm.com/companies/bitclub-network-review-zeek-ponzi-veterans-at-it-again/
3000  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 27, 2015, 05:01:07 PM
im0rtel im looking at you specifically!  Enjoy the negative trust.
I suggest we treat all Ponzi promoters thus

So about this signature you're using. How does it feel to endorse a ponzi scheme?

There's a bizarre little story behind im0rtel and that sig:  make sense of this  Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762075.msg10260402#msg10260402


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