Hear! Hear! Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his "updated summary of the record of US foreign policy" which shows that, since 1945, the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries; bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.
In many cases Britain has been a collaborator.
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I am compelled to add this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A05s6GrztbQKherson Governor Yury Odarchenko during a speech on the 9th of May, stated that Hitler tried to liberate Ukraine by invading it. One brave soul from the public comes forward and deprives him of the microphone. This resonates with the first picture of the thread.
And another: Ever heard about the Tank man from China? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fchinadigitaltimes.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F06%2F89-63_tank_man_-_web.jpg&t=663&c=H9DzYcsq_LEO_g) Well.... here is an image from Mariupol, of a civilian trying to stop a Right Sector-controlled tank. No idea what happened to him afterwards. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBnMyZuTIMAANb5M.jpg&t=663&c=kb6nASD6cXopLA)
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Ukraine communist leader: Kiev labeled 7 mn people 'terrorists,' slaughtered civilianshttp://rt.com/news/158744-ukraine-terrorists-civilians-killed/The leader of Ukraine’s Communist Party says the Kiev regime killed peaceful civilians in the country's southeast, and is spreading lies about the real situation. The Ukrainian parliament is now seeking to expel communists and ban their activity. “You declared seven million people living in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as 'terrorists.' They went out yesterday [to vote in the referendum], stood in lines since 6 a.m. to vote against Kiev rule, against this regime, against your policy,” he said. “At the Victory Day celebration, he says that Hitler did the right thing when he invaded our country to ‘liberate’ the people of Ukraine from communists. This was said by a person who is either an idiot or a thug,” Simonenko said.
Odarchenko responded by saying he will sue Simonenko.
“I am suing you for a bald-faced lie, for slander, for cowardly and shameful propaganda,” Odarchenko told the Communist Party leader.
Though Odarchenko says Simonenko's accusations are a lie, the moment when he said the statement about Hitler was caught on video.
This video needs to be seen, just to get a feeling of the people's reaction. Most were shouting their protest. One brave soule came forward to end this monstrosity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A05s6GrztbQOne important reader comment to that video: nestatnik 14.05.2014 05:17
The woman with the child demonstrated, however unconsciously, the difference between Communism and Fascism.
She went after the message. Fascists go after the messenger.
Very important to note.
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Should have probably started a new thread on this, but... NATO sailors ‘behave like occupiers’, Latvian mayor complainshttp://rt.com/news/158804-latvia-nato-occupiers-mayor/Crewmembers of NATO warships deployed to the Latvian port city of Ventspils are behaving like occupying forces, who don’t consider local laws apply to them, the mayor of the city charged. This discredits the alliance in the eyes of Latvians, he added.
“NATO sailors in Ventspils were behaving like pigs, ignored Latvian laws and municipal rules,” Aivars Lembergs told LETA news agency. “Drunk, they urinated in public, right on shop windows, vomited, drank in public, which is not allowed. They picked flowers from flowerbeds and gave them to prostitutes.”
Lembergs, a vocal critic of Latvia’s cooperation with NATO, added that the foreign military personnel “behaved like occupiers, who do not recognize Latvia’s sovereignty.” What were they expecting. This behaviour pattern is known from other places, like Japan, but there such image is heavily suppressed. At least Latvians are not pushing it under the rug.
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What deisik said, plus, this is market economy, and each state can negotiate its price. It all depends on how good they are at paying their bills and what they can offer in return. Lithuania got a gas price cut a few days ago, and Lithuania is not exactly a pal of Russia...
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Kiev military unit shoots at Russian journalists after fight near Kramatorskhttp://rt.com/news/158760-ukraine-military-russian-journalists/ “We saw that machines were gone and the shooting stopped like half-an-hour ago. We tried to enter the premises of the village to find out what happened to locals, if they needed help, and if there were wounded among them,” reporter Oleg Sidyakin told RT. “But as we got closer to the outskirts of the village, we ran into an armored troop carrier with a Ukrainian flag on it and armed people in black uniforms. We were going in a car with 'TV' stickers, indicating that were are press. We stuck hands out of windows, but first there came one shot and then machine gun fire.” Those black uniforms... Reminds me of this article: http://www.sott.net/article/278894-Kiev-lets-loose-Men-in-Black-Death-Squads-on-East-Ukrainian-CiviliansI see Ukraine still attacks the young neighbouring state... Fighting between Kiev’s army and local self-defense groups broke out in the afternoon near Oktyabrskoe.
“It was around noon. The Ukrainian army was taking ammunitions to the city of Kramatorsk,” local resident Vladimir told RT, citing his friend Aleksandr, who lives nearby. “There is the village of Oktyabrskoe, where there is a bridge [on the way]. Our self-defense blew up a vehicle with ammunition and set Kiev’s APC on fire,” he said.
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Duma calls on world parliaments to prevent humanitarian disaster in Ukrainehttp://rt.com/politics/158604-duma-ukraine-humanitarian-disaster/Russian MPs suggest a new international contact group on the basis of PACE that would help stop the armed standoff in Ukraine and prevent the looming humanitarian disaster in the country.
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The letter will be forwarded to the PACE, the Parliamentary Assembly of the OSCE, the Asian-Pacific Parliamentary Assembly, Pan-African Parliament and to the Russian Foreign Ministry, which will forward it to parliaments of the world through diplomatic channels. Comments from readers: Wonron Kukumbachi 13.05.2014 16:34 > Templar Knight 13.05.2014 13:33 >America is looking for WMT's (Weapons of Mass Terrorism) in East Ukraine as an excuse for military intervention to "save" the poor people from nasty referendums. Bombs Away!
Its called evacuation! The Kiev junta sent SS guard troops to "evacuate" people from voting places and kill those who refuse to be saved from democracy. Kinda like Romania, they love so much democracy that they kill anyone who is against it! I almost hear niothor's outcry against that last comment...
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Couldn't pass this by: http://rt.com/usa/158700-state-dept-order-explosives/The Department of State is shopping around for hundreds of pounds of plastic explosives and detonator devices, a new report reveals, raising concerns regarding an American agency that usually deals with foreign policy, not dynamite procurement. “For what purpose is the department making these purchases? How – and where and by whom – will these explosives be used?” the reporter asked.
According to WND’s second report in two days on the matter, a State Dept. public affairs specialist laughed and said, “I’m not sure what you’re looking for.”
“WND is pressing the federal department to explain how the explosives fit with its mission to ‘shape and sustain a peaceful, prosperous, just, and democratic world and foster conditions for stability and progress for the benefit of the American people and people everywhere,’” Peacock wrote. So far, though, those attempts have proved to be unsuccessful. Also among the items the State Dept. expressed an interest in buying are detonating chords “designed to maximize explosive efficiency [and] provide the operator with a variety of options for external and close quarter breaching,” and a “Water charge used to defeat inward and outward opening metal doors, rollup garage doors, dry walls, and hollow block walls.” Any ideas what for..?
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As soon as commercial space companies pick up steam the US should easily surpass Russia in terms of space technology. Frankly I think we are still ahead but it won't even be close. American private corporations will be far more effective than Russian government bodies that are rife with corruption and quality control issues (Those last two items are not my opinions, those are facts. Russia has a serious problem with corruption in military technology and development and they struggle with quality issues.)
Now, American government-funded programs do suffer from the same issues but American corporations suffer less than Russian ones do in that respect. Russian corps are far more interwoven with the government than their American counterparts are.
dogechode, I agree with your entire post, save for the last sentence. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You could say that American corps are the government acting through a series of middlemen.
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Interesting , I wasn't aware of it. Then.. why the hell aren't they buying bitcoins =))))))))0
Who says they aren't? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) http://ria.ru/society/20140513/1007570608.html"The Government of the Russian Federation, together with the State Corporation - Fund of Assistance for Reforming of Housing and Communal Services will assist the executive body of the Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol in the development of regional targeted programs to resettle people from emergency housing and ensure that the necessary funds for suchimplementation", - was said on behalf of the President Vladimir Putin.
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@sana8410: Don't forget the Scandinavian countries too. It's really funny listening to the commentators here, speaking about customary points coming in. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) As for the bearded lady. It could have hardly chosen a better name. Just replace "t" with "n" in its name, and you'll get the Russian word for "demise" / "death".
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There was an assassination attempt on the governor of People Republic of Lugansk. He is in hospital. http://www.interfax.ru/world/375992In Lugansk they describe it as "Kiev's response to the referendum".
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minime, he's in most, if not everybody's ignore list here.
i like to stay objective... so i do not ignore... That's fine, but by "everybody", I meant that some of the guys here, who do not agree with me and my views also have Pagan on ignore. Telling, eh?
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Personally, if they want independence, I have no issues with that, but I ca't imagine Putin allowing that to happen, and would guess that he would do everything he can (seeding unrest, propaganda, ballot stuffing) to add those regions to Russia. My concern is that those people would quickly find out that being a part of Russia is not as great as it sounds, but the difference is that, while they could easily protest and secede from Ukraine, doing that while being a part of Russia would quickly invite an overwhelming force, followed by long jail terms for whoever came up with the idea.
Can't see that on Putin's agenda now - too expensive both politically and economically. These two regions may end up acting as buffer states, that what Ukraine was expected to be. Of course, if NATO sends its bombers and hardware to those two regions (they are already discussing the latter), then the game would change.
In the meantime, Russia is shaming EU Russia disappointed over additional EU sanctionshttp://rt.com/news/158536-russia-disappointed-eu-sanctions/“Instead of trying to solve the situation through de-escalation, disarmament of the Right Sector, improvement of dialogue between Kiev’s authorities and Ukrainian regions, EU colleagues are demonstrating a one-sided and one-dimensional policy, not worthy of the European Union,” Itar-Tass quoted Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov as saying. Nice reader comments: Fred 13.05.2014 07:35
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Exactly and there was no problem when Slovenia voted for indenpendence which was against the law. They didn't mind Croatia and Kosovo self proclamation of indenpendace. They didn't obey inernational law when they attacked Yugoslavia, they didn't care when 500 000 children died in Iraq ...
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This is the MAIN point of it ! Referendum Illegal in East-Ukraine ? Then USA and Nato HAS to give back Kosovo to Serbia ... ! Can't wait what stunt they are going to invent for Scotland ... ;-))
Oh, a new Op-Edge at RT, now with former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts: Russia should ignore Washington's 'new Cold War'http://rt.com/op-edge/158532-russia-ignore-cold-war/ RT: The way that some US officials are speaking, it seems that NATO seriously believes that Russia is set to invade the Baltic states.
PCR: What this is all about is that Washington had hoped to grab Ukraine, especially the Russian naval base in Crimea, in order to cut Russia off from the port and access to the Mediterranean. Now, Washington lost that game. They're trying to retrieve it by starting a new Cold War, and that's what all this talk is about.
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minime, he's in most, if not everybody's ignore list here.
Ah, I said yesterday, that the third option for Russia would be to wait for the Ukrainian presidential election, then talk to the legitimate government. Might be that the political analysts in Kremlin came to the same idea and are procrastinating... Moscow in no rush to respond to Donetsk People's Republic plea for accessionhttp://rt.com/op-edge/158528-russia-response-ukraine-donetsk/Lots of interesting quotes from political experts in that article... I'll indulge quoting one. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sleboda stated that when examining Donetsk and Lugansk referendums, one must pay attention to three things. “One, the extremely large turnout, which is nearly impossible to deny. The overwhelming landslide victory – since the vote was essentially public with the glass ballot boxes and the Western journalists who served in place of international monitors, we could say, who clearly informally polled on the ground the strength of support for the independence vote.”
“And three, we have to remember that this did indeed happen under the barrel of a gun – but not the barrel of the gun of the self-defense forces, but under the barrel of the gun of this Kiev regime who was actually killing voters as they tried to vote against it on the referendum day,” he argued.
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