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29901  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: June 14, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
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Tbh, I'm not even sure that commercial aircraft go high enough to properly see the curvature of the Earth.


Take a note from a proper Scientist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFYiHGqshc


From the video, "It seemed a flat disc, with upturned edge." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFYiHGqshc#t=12m50s

Again, "It seemed..."  This could mean anything. It could easily mean the strength of the glass in the porthole cause Piccard some nostalgia. This is the only little part of this whole video that says anything that might pertain to flat earth. The picture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFYiHGqshc#t=8m09s looks like a curved horizon... a spherical earth.

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29902  Other / Off-topic / Re: [POLL] Would you rather have AIDS or Cancer ? on: June 14, 2016, 05:45:36 PM
Either one is okay for me, since MMS (Jim Humble) and good nutrition will cure them both.

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29903  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More than 1,200 new planets that could hold life found on: June 14, 2016, 05:43:28 PM
I think that the us should not waste their on space discovery. I think they should discover the world and should spend their money on the needy people of world. we can see that most of the people in different place of the world are living hard. I think they should help them. and no need to sped such false news.

The U.S. doesn't rally care about space discovery at all. All they are interested in is getting whatever funds-for-projects that they can, so they have an excuse to siphon more off the people in taxes.

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29904  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: June 14, 2016, 05:41:22 PM
I think i understand now why US Americans are so scared of genocide:

They perpetrated several genocides and are scared of revenge? :S

Most Americans don't even realize how their government did this... the genocides.

Americans have been brainwashed into the idea of living healthy for much longer than they do. Science and the medical have brainwashed them into this. So, it is brainwash fear of death.

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29905  Other / Politics & Society / Re: URGENT: Labour reform protesters hold general strike in Paris on: June 14, 2016, 05:35:42 PM

Three+ hours long?    Cool
29906  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
BADecker, I think something's just clicked... You're not talking about Darwinism/evolution/Natural Selection! You're talking about how living cells first came into being, or abiogenesis, right? That's what your molecule example sounds like, because that's not the sort of evolution I was talking about.

You see when most people talk about Evolution they are not talking about Abiogenesis - they are two totally separate things. Unlike the theory of Evolution, Abiogenesis has not been explained by science in any meaningful way, although there are some hypotheses.

Darwin didn't really have a clue how his idea of evolution would work. He mostly suggested that it was simply there. However, anyone who tries to find out where life came from, and goes the evolution route, sooner or later has to consider abiogenesis... or stop looking at the most fundamental part of evolution... where it all started.

The idea of separating evolution from abiogenesis completely, is one of two things:
A. It is separation to more directly focus on aspects of one or the other;
B. It is separation to cause conflicts in understanding, because both are together - cannot be separated, basically - and are being used by science to cover up the fact that evolution and abiogenesis are impossible.

There is a third thing: C) that scientists are trying to change the meaning of "evolution" to "change," so that they can gracefully step out of their appearance of stupidity while keeping their status in society. The medical does this on a regular basis by changing disease smptoms on the books, and suddenly you are looking at a whole new disease.

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29907  Other / Politics & Society / Second Suspect Confirmed in Orlando Shooting on: June 14, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
Second Suspect Confirmed in Orlando Shooting





This was caught Live, On Air! A witness to the Orlando Pulse Night Club Shooting Describes what happened Inside! As he starts to reveal one of the most important details yet, He is cut off and dropped from the broadcast. What they could not cut out tho, is that there was "someone" Holding the Doors, Stopping People from Getting Out!! This is explosive info that proves that the Alleged suspect Did Not Act Alone!

Janiel Gonzalez, 26 an eye witness tells the palmbeachpost.com-

He said he heard another gun from a different direction, so he wonders if there were two gunmen.

"Everybody dropped to the floor. We were trying to look for an exit. But the main exit was right next to the entrance where the shooter was shooting,'' he said.

"In a moment of desperation we were all crawling on the floor trying to find a place to exit. I looked to my right and I could see people going through some curtains. We were digging through the curtains and found a door.''

But he said the door was blocked by a man. He wasn't sure if it was a club security person or an accomplice to the gunmen.



Read more and watch the video at http://wearechange.org/multiple-suspects-confirmed/


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29908  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 04:51:29 PM

OK, well bear in mind that I'm not a big fan of the Pharmaceutical industry, and yes they have been know to corrupt studies and data to their own advantage. That doesn't mean that everything they do is corrupt.

Meta-analyses are used to try and find the most accurate results, to get around tactics like data fabrication and cherry picking (that Big Pharma have been known to use), I'm not sure why you think they are "rich in deliberate fraud". Of course they have to be properly designed, but when they are they are the gold standard of statistical significance in science/medicine.

Are you someone who still believes there to be a link between vaccines and autism (you haven't made your position very clear)?

If so, what problems do you have with any of the studies that show there to be no statistical link? Here's an article that references 20 studies that have been done, using different methods, with high numbers of samples and statistical power: http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/48/4/456.full

And no, I'm not interested in getting any information from youtube videos, I prefer scientific articles and journals that reference their sources.

You like medical studies, but you don't want to look at the coincidences?

Baby very healthy.
Vaccines administered.
Baby suddenly autistic.


http://www.naturalnews.com/026953_thimerosal_autism_mercury.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/027178_autism_vaccines.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/048753_Wakefield_study_MMR_vaccine_autism.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccine_flu_vaccines.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/029641_vaccines_junk_science.html

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See bolded. That is not a very scientific way to get your views.

I did read your links, but naturalnews is a very poor source for this sort of information. As I said earlier, the owners of sites like this probably don't believe the majority of the stuff they post, but they have pinpointed a demographic of people that lap it up. Notice all the ads on the page? Money in their pocket.

Of the links, the only one with much substance was the first, with the study on Thimerosal on in vitro (petri dish) cells. I'll have a closer look at the study, but as far as I'm aware Thimerosal isn't in any vaccines apart from the flu vaccine since 2001. So kind of irrelevant to anything about autism.

2nd link was just quotes from books, trying to prove a wishy-washy anecdotal link. Poor.
3rd link was just an outright lying headline - No his study hasn't been vindicated: http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(97)11096-0/abstract see those big red letters that say "RETRACTED"?
4th and 5th were about flu vaccine, which I wasn't discussing.

The only way we can discuss this is if you make a clear position/argument so that we can debate it. Did you look through the article I linked with the 20 studies, did you pick up on any problems with any of the studies?

I agree that Natural News is a poor place to look at studies and papers. But, it is a great place to get a good idea of how mixed up the medical industry is regarding the things that they say work.

One might have to track the things that NN says. But the tracking would bring one to the conclusion that there is more detrimental stuff going on in the medical than beneficial stuff.... except to make money for Big Pharma, if that can be called a benefit.

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29909  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 04:46:46 PM

If the human body must have vaccines to survive, then evolution and natural selection are fraudulent scientific theories. Conversely, if natural selection is real, then all humans are the survivors of thousands of generations of ancestors who self-immunized without any vaccines at all.

Yet today, ridiculous scientists and vaccine propaganda pushers tell us that modern humans would all die without vaccines, claiming our immune systems are incapable of protecting us without vaccines.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/054317_vaccine_science_natural_selection_contradiction.html#ixzz4BE522kdM


Evolution works on a large time scale.  Over time, animals that survived developed immunity to diseases that took out animals before them.
You either survive or you die.  That is how immune systems work in the context of evolution.
Evolution doesn't work at all except in the lab. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.msg14706492#msg14706492. Not only does the article at the link give evolution a tremendous, gigantic benefit of the doubt, the article doesn't even begin to talk about the things in nature that destroy evolution. The fact is, the longer the amount of time, the less chance evolution has of even getting a foothold.


Humans developed immunity to the diseases that happened in the past, but anything new has a potential to kill a large number of humans.  Some will survive and develop immunity naturally, their genes will be passed to the next generations.  The process is very brutal but the nature works that way.
Actually, it works exactly the other way around. Entropy shows that all complexity is breaking down... becoming more simple all the time. Adding poisons to a gradually weakening system, only makes that system break down faster.


What the proponents of vaccines are advocating is to get vaccines to known NEW viruses that you probably don't have antibodies for in your bloodstream.
This is a noble thought. But why not strengthen the system to fight the new viruses, rather than poisoning it with some old, dead viruses and all the poisons that are added to the vaccine... like mercury?


There are few problems:  the ingredients in the vaccines might be harmful to you (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients), the virus that you take the vaccine for might not be harmful to you or you might not get infected so you are taking something that you don't really need.

I think it is a personal choice, just like the insurance coverage.  You know things like life insurance.


It might be personal choice for you an adult. But government is forcing it on your kids. And, they are doing it while knowing it is bad for them.

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I'm not going to spend too long trying to explain evolution to you, I really haven't got time and “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he never was reasoned into.”

Suffice to say, you don't understand the concept at all. Your main problem is that you're thinking of Evolution itself as some sort of "entity" with a plan, when in fact it is just an abstract concept.

The 2nd law of Thermodynamics, or entropy, doesn't apply here because we are not in an isolated system - the Earth gets energy from the Sun and therefore can decrease its entropy (even though the Universe as a whole does have slowly increasing entropy). It is possible for one part of the Universe to become more ordered, even as the whole thing is becoming less ordered over time. Nothing about the 2nd law is violated by the concept of Evolution.

You say evolution can occur in a lab, so I assume you're aware that we can witness bacteria and viruses evolve.

HIV is a really good example: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/medicine_04, "It reproduces sloppily, accumulating lots of mutations when it copies its genetic material. It also reproduces at a lightning-fast rate — a single virus can spawn billions of copies in just one day.").

Is it so hard to accept that the same process can happen in the wild, with more complex organisms (at a much slower pace)?


Entropy applies because it applies to everything. Even though something looks like it is "advancing," it is doing so at the expense of something else that is declining more rapidly. You virtually said this, above, in other language.

We can see evolution occur in the lab, after we make evolution occur in the lab.

We don't have even ONE clear example of evolution happening in nature, which could not be attributed to something else at the same time. All the "slower pace" happenings would be destroyed by nature - say by oxidation - long before they got off the ground. The slower they are, the longer they take, the more time there is for something to destroy them. And there are loads of natural chemical reactions that are out to break down more complex chemicals.

Evolutionists have play a trick. They have said that evolution takes a long time, and that's why we can't see it happening. The thing that they don't include in this thinking is that the longer the time, the more opportunity for evolved "things" to be attacked and destroyed.

Go ahead and turn away from solid science if you want. Delude yourself into thinking evolution might be able to happen. But the math of simple chemistry and physics show that evolution is utterly impossible.

Cool

Like I said above, the concept of entropy works in an isolated system (ie the whole Universe), but not necessarily on Earth. Chemistry and Physics do not show that it is impossible, in fact they support the idea, which is why it's a scientific theory.
But the probability math of chemistry and physics, and the way things work naturally, show that evolution is impossible, and absolutely should never have been moved into the science theory realm.


The way you describe Evolution shows that you just don't get it - sentences like "the longer the time, the more opportunity for evolved "things" to be attacked and destroyed." and "All the "slower pace" happenings would be destroyed by nature" make so sense whatsoever. Natural selection comes from tiny mutations in DNA, and over time the beneficial ones stick around while the useless ones disappear.
This is exactly the point that I and many others get. The scientific community has enslaved your mind into thinking in the wrong way. Here's what I mean.

Evolution is a slow thing. For example. A beneficial mutation process occurs. Molecule A attaches to molecule B in a beneficial mutation process. The odds of this happening are extremely poor. But let's say it happens. Because evolution takes so extremely long, the AB molecule combination sits there waiting for another beneficial mutation to happen to it, where molecule C would be added to the combo. Or does it sit there and wait? No! Rather, it is destroyed by all kinds of adverse chemistry, like oxidation.

Okay, step back from this for a minute and consider. There is no way for evolution "advancement" to happen. It is a wonderful science fiction story. But is is only science fiction. Mathematically, it is utterly impossible for anything like evolution to happen, ever, except in the realm of science fiction.


I'm not going to waste any more time trying to explain it. Maybe one day you'll accept it, but you've obviously been indoctrinated pretty hard with some strong opinions on this. My number one tip to you, if you really want to learn, is to challenge your views and try reading articles from other places, rather than stuff like AiG and new age health websites. And always check the sources and references.
That's okay. Since there isn't anything more to explain, why keep on trying?

The most difficult thing to understand is why scientists ignore the greatest part of their science in favor of science fiction. I mean, they can barely make a small handful of things that might pertain to evolution work in the lab.

Suggesting that evolution might be possible somehow would be okay. But suggesting that it is fact in the face of so many aspects of science that prove it to be utterly impossible is religion.


New Scientist is a great source for mostly unbiased and accurate articles, without being too dry.

I think that if you juggle all the New Scientist articles with each other, you will see that it is very self-contradictory.

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29910  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 14, 2016, 04:14:59 PM
Because, your words.  They are crazy talk.  The Truther is you.  Your arguments have all been destroyed, and easily.

It's your problem, deal with it.

The Jews don't go at anything halfway.
The Zionist part of the Jews have a plan in everything.

 mostly, Zionists are not Jews. They are just faking it.
...
paid by the Zionists - maybe Silverstein ....
 exactly what the Zionists want.
They are helping to cover up for Silverstein.

Who knows what else they (Zionists) are covering up for. ....

..... 9/11 was an inside job that probably didn't have even 1 Muslim/Arab in it.
Zionists need you to think that the Muslims were behind it

than to protect Silverstein.
....
Spendy starts picking on me and calling me a Jew hater......
How about that.

Precisely, because Spendy is working for the Zionists. If he happened to get into an adverse conversation with anybody, that proved something against what the Zionists wanted, he would finally start to call them Jew haters, rather than stick to the points of the discussion.

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But your points of discussion are the Jews and the Zionists, and what murdering thieves they are.  Your words.  Deal with it.  Or maybe you didn't take your pills when you wrote this?


The Jews don't go at anything halfway.
The Zionist part of the Jews have a plan in everything.

 mostly, Zionists are not Jews. They are just faking it.
...
paid by the Zionists - maybe Silverstein ....
 exactly what the Zionists want.
They are helping to cover up for Silverstein.

Who knows what else they (Zionists) are covering up for. ....

..... 9/11 was an inside job that probably didn't have even 1 Muslim/Arab in it.
Zionists need you to think that the Muslims were behind it

than to protect Silverstein.

And these points are in relation to you being a Zionist stooge, because you can't disprove the points of 9/11:
1. The Towers were built to withstand the plane crashes;
2. There is little evidence that jet fuel heat played any part in weakening the Towers.

In addition, there's tons of evidence that show that the Towers crashed like a demolition job, and could never have crashed like they did from plane crashes. The best you can come up with is 8th grade science.

Here I am, trying to get back on track, but you keep on turning this thing into Jew-hater propaganda. Thanks, again, for helping to prove, both:
A. That 9/11 was an inside job;
B. That you are a paid flunky for the Zionists, even if it isn't the 9/11 area that you are paid for.

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29911  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 04:06:32 PM

OK, well bear in mind that I'm not a big fan of the Pharmaceutical industry, and yes they have been know to corrupt studies and data to their own advantage. That doesn't mean that everything they do is corrupt.

Meta-analyses are used to try and find the most accurate results, to get around tactics like data fabrication and cherry picking (that Big Pharma have been known to use), I'm not sure why you think they are "rich in deliberate fraud". Of course they have to be properly designed, but when they are they are the gold standard of statistical significance in science/medicine.

Are you someone who still believes there to be a link between vaccines and autism (you haven't made your position very clear)?

If so, what problems do you have with any of the studies that show there to be no statistical link? Here's an article that references 20 studies that have been done, using different methods, with high numbers of samples and statistical power: http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/48/4/456.full

And no, I'm not interested in getting any information from youtube videos, I prefer scientific articles and journals that reference their sources.

You like medical studies, but you don't want to look at the coincidences?

Baby very healthy.
Vaccines administered.
Baby suddenly autistic.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026953_thimerosal_autism_mercury.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/027178_autism_vaccines.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/048753_Wakefield_study_MMR_vaccine_autism.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccine_flu_vaccines.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/029641_vaccines_junk_science.html

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29912  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 14, 2016, 03:58:52 PM
Because, your words.  They are crazy talk.  The Truther is you.  Your arguments have all been destroyed, and easily.

It's your problem, deal with it.

The Jews don't go at anything halfway.
The Zionist part of the Jews have a plan in everything.

 mostly, Zionists are not Jews. They are just faking it.
...
paid by the Zionists - maybe Silverstein ....
 exactly what the Zionists want.
They are helping to cover up for Silverstein.

Who knows what else they (Zionists) are covering up for. ....

..... 9/11 was an inside job that probably didn't have even 1 Muslim/Arab in it.
Zionists need you to think that the Muslims were behind it

than to protect Silverstein.
....
Spendy starts picking on me and calling me a Jew hater......
How about that.

Precisely, because Spendy is working for the Zionists. If he happened to get into an adverse conversation with anybody, that proved something against what the Zionists wanted, he would finally start to call them Jew haters, rather than stick to the points of the discussion.

Cool
29913  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 03:53:48 PM

If the human body must have vaccines to survive, then evolution and natural selection are fraudulent scientific theories. Conversely, if natural selection is real, then all humans are the survivors of thousands of generations of ancestors who self-immunized without any vaccines at all.

Yet today, ridiculous scientists and vaccine propaganda pushers tell us that modern humans would all die without vaccines, claiming our immune systems are incapable of protecting us without vaccines.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/054317_vaccine_science_natural_selection_contradiction.html#ixzz4BE522kdM


Evolution works on a large time scale.  Over time, animals that survived developed immunity to diseases that took out animals before them.
You either survive or you die.  That is how immune systems work in the context of evolution.
Evolution doesn't work at all except in the lab. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.msg14706492#msg14706492. Not only does the article at the link give evolution a tremendous, gigantic benefit of the doubt, the article doesn't even begin to talk about the things in nature that destroy evolution. The fact is, the longer the amount of time, the less chance evolution has of even getting a foothold.


Humans developed immunity to the diseases that happened in the past, but anything new has a potential to kill a large number of humans.  Some will survive and develop immunity naturally, their genes will be passed to the next generations.  The process is very brutal but the nature works that way.
Actually, it works exactly the other way around. Entropy shows that all complexity is breaking down... becoming more simple all the time. Adding poisons to a gradually weakening system, only makes that system break down faster.


What the proponents of vaccines are advocating is to get vaccines to known NEW viruses that you probably don't have antibodies for in your bloodstream.
This is a noble thought. But why not strengthen the system to fight the new viruses, rather than poisoning it with some old, dead viruses and all the poisons that are added to the vaccine... like mercury?


There are few problems:  the ingredients in the vaccines might be harmful to you (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients), the virus that you take the vaccine for might not be harmful to you or you might not get infected so you are taking something that you don't really need.

I think it is a personal choice, just like the insurance coverage.  You know things like life insurance.


It might be personal choice for you an adult. But government is forcing it on your kids. And, they are doing it while knowing it is bad for them.

Cool

I'm not going to spend too long trying to explain evolution to you, I really haven't got time and “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he never was reasoned into.”

Suffice to say, you don't understand the concept at all. Your main problem is that you're thinking of Evolution itself as some sort of "entity" with a plan, when in fact it is just an abstract concept.

The 2nd law of Thermodynamics, or entropy, doesn't apply here because we are not in an isolated system - the Earth gets energy from the Sun and therefore can decrease its entropy (even though the Universe as a whole does have slowly increasing entropy). It is possible for one part of the Universe to become more ordered, even as the whole thing is becoming less ordered over time. Nothing about the 2nd law is violated by the concept of Evolution.

You say evolution can occur in a lab, so I assume you're aware that we can witness bacteria and viruses evolve.

HIV is a really good example: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/medicine_04, "It reproduces sloppily, accumulating lots of mutations when it copies its genetic material. It also reproduces at a lightning-fast rate — a single virus can spawn billions of copies in just one day.").

Is it so hard to accept that the same process can happen in the wild, with more complex organisms (at a much slower pace)?


Entropy applies because it applies to everything. Even though something looks like it is "advancing," it is doing so at the expense of something else that is declining more rapidly. You virtually said this, above, in other language.

We can see evolution occur in the lab, after we make evolution occur in the lab.

We don't have even ONE clear example of evolution happening in nature, which could not be attributed to something else at the same time. All the "slower pace" happenings would be destroyed by nature - say by oxidation - long before they got off the ground. The slower they are, the longer they take, the more time there is for something to destroy them. And there are loads of natural chemical reactions that are out to break down more complex chemicals.

Evolutionists have play a trick. They have said that evolution takes a long time, and that's why we can't see it happening. The thing that they don't include in this thinking is that the longer the time, the more opportunity for evolved "things" to be attacked and destroyed.

Go ahead and turn away from solid science if you want. Delude yourself into thinking evolution might be able to happen. But the math of simple chemistry and physics show that evolution is utterly impossible.

Cool
29914  Other / Off-topic / Re: A Completely Untapped Market of Medical Cures on: June 14, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
Hi..I am a paralyzed man w no doc and ready to buy..serious buyer...$$for xanax oxycodone oxymorphone etc..please contact me on email scottygreen53@gmail.com or on here..

You know the most likely person to contact you with offers is going to be a cop. If you need pain meds legitimately you should start a thread describing your situation then ask for suggestions.

If you purchase your products by mail, and keep them securely locked in your home, cops don't have any say in the matter. If they mess with you when you haven't made your products publicly known, use the Karl Lentz method to not only protect yourself, but to make a bunch of money off the cops, and to get your products back from them if they steal them from you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10.

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29915  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
Do you actually Beleive this or are you just posting the videos to show how ridiculous it is?  If you actually Beleive this shit then maybe you should look up some photos of children that parents failed to vaccinate and ended up sick.

Or some pictures of those who's parents to 'succeeded'.

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BTW, since the common cry when the guy's name is brought up is that he is a fraud, Dr. Wakefield's co-author was a wealthy individual who had half a million spare kicking around to 'clear his name.'  He did just this and in the process thoroughly humiliated the interests which demonized the research team.  Funny that this isn't reported so much.

http://www.ebcala.org/areas-of-law/vaccine-law/co-author-of-lancet-mmr-autism-study-exonerated-on-all-charges-of-professional-misconduct

According to this article the funding for Walker-Smith's defense was his insurance company, but the results were as described.



Oh jesus, you're not defending Wakefield are you? The guy is a disgrace to medicine. You do realize he paid kids at his son's birthday party for blood samples, does that seem like valid, ethical scientific research to you?

In terms of statistics, you know how many children were sampled in his retracted Lancet paper? 12.

Oh look, here's an article that references a meta-analysis of 10 studies, involving 1.2 million children. That's 1,266,327.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/new-meta-analysis-confirms-no-association-between-vaccines-and-autism

Kerri Rivera has used chlorine dioxide (CD) to cure well over 200 kids from autism. Her book, Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism - 2nd Edition, can be purchased from https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Symptoms-Known-Autism-2nd/dp/0989289044/186-3275128-9122902?ie=UTF8&keywords=healing0autism&qid=1464406998.

How effective is her treatment? Google "CD autism." What you will find are a whole bunch of websites that want to ban CD (MMS) in the use of correcting autism. Why? Simply because it works.

Well, why wouldn't the medical use it if it worked so well? Because it sells for pennies, and they can't make any money on selling it. Even DuPont sells it as water treatment (http://www2.dupont.com/Chlorine_Dioxide_Solutions/en_US/assets/downloads/K-27437_ClO2-Works-in-the-Oil-Field.pdf and http://www.environmental-expert.com/products/dupont-cio2-chlorine-dioxide-generator-49024 and http://www.environmental-expert.com/companies/dupont-chlorine-dioxide-8130/products) - it is used all over the world in water treatment.

The point is, there is no problem with CD. Yet the medical has black-listed it. The medical is out there to keep you sick so that they can make money. Go to the medical and die.

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29916  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 14, 2016, 03:04:13 PM
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Hypothetically, If it was my choice, I'd choose the planes - less personnel involvement, easier to pull off, and even if the towers "couldn't have possibly fallen" they would still need to destroy them afterwards - good luck repairing the damage and convincing health and safety officials that the towers are safe to use again. And guaranteed, the controlled destruction of the twin towers weeks later would be televised and have a psychological impact on the American people.

Two birds one stone, see what I mean?

If I was on the Islamic side, I'd use the Islamic concept of Takiyya.  I'd take whatever vicious attacks my fellow Muslims had done recently, and have groups of people post about them on the Internet, spread stories on television and print media.  These stories would blame the Evil Jews and the Great Satan, the United States, for the atrocities.  I'd write that the innocent Muslims were the victims, and the Evil Jews did the bombings, or the Great Satan <<blah blah blah>> you get the idea.

I'd also promote these conspiracy theories about 911, just to confuse the weak minded and gullible.  But being somewhat weak minded myself (After all, being on the Islamic side, being a believer in fairy tales, and not having bothered to learn any hard science), I'd get all kinds of facts wrong and I'd get the physics, math and chemistry wrong.  Unfortunately that would lead to these pieces of propaganda being capable of being debunked by people using junior high level chemistry, physics and math.  But I wouldn't care that much because most of my gullible readers would be in places like Jordon, Egypt and Pakistan.  Not exactly renowned centers of learning and academic excellence.  But hey, if you got Allah, you don't need all that science and math and medicine, do you?

And after cementing in their heads how evil the US and the Jews were, they'll be that much more ready to become suicide bombers for the great cause of righteousness.  You see, if they knew that the USA and the Jews were just another bunch of people, trying to get by day by day, they'd never do these atrocities.  It's necessary to convince them of the total evilness of "the enemy."

And that's what we are seeing here on this forum, just a small part of this world wide propaganda effort.

Allah Akbar.

Takiyya.  
Lie all you want if it's for THE CAUSE.
Blame everything on the US and the Evil Jews.
Post stupid garbage on the Internet, always claim Muslims are helpless victims instead of savage monster.
Blab over and over "Islam is peace."

Thanks, Spendy. I was worrying over how I was going to approach this before you wrote it. But now that you have...

... LISTEN UP FOLKS.

The Jews don't go at anything halfway. The Zionist part of the Jews have a plan in everything. And mostly, Zionists are not Jews. They are just faking it. But, they hired Spendy.

Have you ever noticed how Spendy attacks the Arabs, and especially the Muslims? He was attacking them long before the 9/11 issue surfaced. AND THEY DESERVE IT. Because their religion is one of the most violent ones in the world... violent toward outsiders.

But that isn't why Spendy was attacking them. There was another reason. Spendy was paid by the Zionists - maybe Silverstein himself - to do this, just to help them cover up the 9/11 issue when it would surface.

Spendy yaks against the Muslims and Arabs. And for folks who want to believe him, 9/11 fits right into his yakking. If you are on Spendy's side in his Yakking against Muslims, you automatically fall into his yakking against the Muslims who purportedly did 9/11.

This is exactly what the Zionists want. They are helping to cover up for Silverstein. Who knows what else they (Zionists) are covering up for. They have their own agendas worldwide. And making the Muslims look worse than they are is always part of it. And they have Spendy doing their dirty work for them in a sly and tricky way.

Folks, Arabs and Muslims are a totally different subject from 9/11. Don't let yourselves be sweet talked into thinking they are one and the same. 9/11 was an inside job that probably didn't have even 1 Muslim/Arab in it. But the Zionists need you to think that the Muslims were behind it, if for no other reason than to protect Silverstein.

Spendy is screwing with your mind.

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Well, you've now fully outed yourself as a lying, bat shit crazy Jew Hater.

Jew hater? Why do you say this? I speak up against Islam even as strongly as you at times. In addition, I speak up on behalf of the Jews now and again. Just because you can't find an answer to the 9/11 thing, you pick on my character. Do you really do this for free? If you do, you should hunt yourself up some people who were in on the inside job, and get paid by them... make some good money.

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Because, your words.  They are crazy talk.  The Truther is you.  Your arguments have all been destroyed, and easily.

It's your problem, deal with it.

The Jews don't go at anything halfway.
The Zionist part of the Jews have a plan in everything.

 mostly, Zionists are not Jews. They are just faking it.
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paid by the Zionists - maybe Silverstein ....
 exactly what the Zionists want.
They are helping to cover up for Silverstein.

Who knows what else they (Zionists) are covering up for. ....

..... 9/11 was an inside job that probably didn't have even 1 Muslim/Arab in it.
Zionists need you to think that the Muslims were behind it

than to protect Silverstein.

Folks, don't you just love it? As much as you and I might be a fan of Spendy's, when I show the two major facts that almost certainly prove 9/11 to be an inside job:
1. The Towers were made to withstand plane crashes;
2. There wasn't near enough heat from the plane fuel to do the job;
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1385160.msg15085200#msg15085200)
Spendy starts picking on me and calling me a Jew hater.

Then, when I finally figure out that there is a good chance that he is an advanced plant, sent to cover up the inside-job idea from even taking foothold, rather than refute my points, he does more of what he is turning out to be good at... pick on me instead of the points I say. He simply does more of what he is doing, like he is setting out to prove that he is an inside plant.

Eighth grade math, physics, and chemistry played a tiny part in destruction of the Towers. Both a real Arab terrorist attack, and a demolition job, would have used a little bit of 8th grade math, physics, and chemistry to make it happen. What really happened, however, goes way beyond the science of 8th grade math, physics, and chemistry.

The math that Spendy spreads around in this thread almost proves that he has, at least some advanced training in the sciences. And this is the exact thing that shoots down his Arab-terrorist theory. Why? Because he always comes back to one of two things:
1. Eighth grade math, or;
2. When that doesn't work, political science.

What political science? Political science that says that when you can't prove something by the facts, keep on hollering that you are right and everybody else is wrong, until you simply wear them out with your hollering. And throw in as much defamation of the opponent's character as you can without seeming to be evil yourself. This looks more and more like Spendy all the time.

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29917  Other / Politics & Society / Health Ranger issues 9-point survival alert for all awakened Americans: ... on: June 14, 2016, 08:17:06 AM
Health Ranger issues 9-point survival alert for all awakened Americans: ISIS now at war with America... P.C. culture of denial resulting in mass bloodshed





Point #1) ISIS is now at war with America... any "leader" who cannot acknowledge this simple truth must immediately resign or be thrown out of office

Point #2) Government leaders are utterly incompetent to stop ISIS... and many appear to be actively working on their behalf

Point #3) Local police cannot protect you against radical Islamic terrorism, even if they want to

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Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/054342_survival_alert_ISIS_terrorism_political_correctness.html.


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29918  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The vaccine science EVOLUTION contradiction (video) on: June 14, 2016, 08:07:51 AM

If the human body must have vaccines to survive, then evolution and natural selection are fraudulent scientific theories. Conversely, if natural selection is real, then all humans are the survivors of thousands of generations of ancestors who self-immunized without any vaccines at all.

Yet today, ridiculous scientists and vaccine propaganda pushers tell us that modern humans would all die without vaccines, claiming our immune systems are incapable of protecting us without vaccines.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/054317_vaccine_science_natural_selection_contradiction.html#ixzz4BE522kdM


Evolution works on a large time scale.  Over time, animals that survived developed immunity to diseases that took out animals before them.
You either survive or you die.  That is how immune systems work in the context of evolution.
Evolution doesn't work at all except in the lab. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.msg14706492#msg14706492. Not only does the article at the link give evolution a tremendous, gigantic benefit of the doubt, the article doesn't even begin to talk about the things in nature that destroy evolution. The fact is, the longer the amount of time, the less chance evolution has of even getting a foothold.


Humans developed immunity to the diseases that happened in the past, but anything new has a potential to kill a large number of humans.  Some will survive and develop immunity naturally, their genes will be passed to the next generations.  The process is very brutal but the nature works that way.
Actually, it works exactly the other way around. Entropy shows that all complexity is breaking down... becoming more simple all the time. Adding poisons to a gradually weakening system, only makes that system break down faster.


What the proponents of vaccines are advocating is to get vaccines to known NEW viruses that you probably don't have antibodies for in your bloodstream.
This is a noble thought. But why not strengthen the system to fight the new viruses, rather than poisoning it with some old, dead viruses and all the poisons that are added to the vaccine... like mercury?


There are few problems:  the ingredients in the vaccines might be harmful to you (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients), the virus that you take the vaccine for might not be harmful to you or you might not get infected so you are taking something that you don't really need.

I think it is a personal choice, just like the insurance coverage.  You know things like life insurance.


It might be personal choice for you an adult. But government is forcing it on your kids. And, they are doing it while knowing it is bad for them.

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29919  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 14, 2016, 07:53:12 AM
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Hypothetically, If it was my choice, I'd choose the planes - less personnel involvement, easier to pull off, and even if the towers "couldn't have possibly fallen" they would still need to destroy them afterwards - good luck repairing the damage and convincing health and safety officials that the towers are safe to use again. And guaranteed, the controlled destruction of the twin towers weeks later would be televised and have a psychological impact on the American people.

Two birds one stone, see what I mean?

If I was on the Islamic side, I'd use the Islamic concept of Takiyya.  I'd take whatever vicious attacks my fellow Muslims had done recently, and have groups of people post about them on the Internet, spread stories on television and print media.  These stories would blame the Evil Jews and the Great Satan, the United States, for the atrocities.  I'd write that the innocent Muslims were the victims, and the Evil Jews did the bombings, or the Great Satan <<blah blah blah>> you get the idea.

I'd also promote these conspiracy theories about 911, just to confuse the weak minded and gullible.  But being somewhat weak minded myself (After all, being on the Islamic side, being a believer in fairy tales, and not having bothered to learn any hard science), I'd get all kinds of facts wrong and I'd get the physics, math and chemistry wrong.  Unfortunately that would lead to these pieces of propaganda being capable of being debunked by people using junior high level chemistry, physics and math.  But I wouldn't care that much because most of my gullible readers would be in places like Jordon, Egypt and Pakistan.  Not exactly renowned centers of learning and academic excellence.  But hey, if you got Allah, you don't need all that science and math and medicine, do you?

And after cementing in their heads how evil the US and the Jews were, they'll be that much more ready to become suicide bombers for the great cause of righteousness.  You see, if they knew that the USA and the Jews were just another bunch of people, trying to get by day by day, they'd never do these atrocities.  It's necessary to convince them of the total evilness of "the enemy."

And that's what we are seeing here on this forum, just a small part of this world wide propaganda effort.

Allah Akbar.

Takiyya.  
Lie all you want if it's for THE CAUSE.
Blame everything on the US and the Evil Jews.
Post stupid garbage on the Internet, always claim Muslims are helpless victims instead of savage monster.
Blab over and over "Islam is peace."

Thanks, Spendy. I was worrying over how I was going to approach this before you wrote it. But now that you have...

... LISTEN UP FOLKS.

The Jews don't go at anything halfway. The Zionist part of the Jews have a plan in everything. And mostly, Zionists are not Jews. They are just faking it. But, they hired Spendy.

Have you ever noticed how Spendy attacks the Arabs, and especially the Muslims? He was attacking them long before the 9/11 issue surfaced. AND THEY DESERVE IT. Because their religion is one of the most violent ones in the world... violent toward outsiders.

But that isn't why Spendy was attacking them. There was another reason. Spendy was paid by the Zionists - maybe Silverstein himself - to do this, just to help them cover up the 9/11 issue when it would surface.

Spendy yaks against the Muslims and Arabs. And for folks who want to believe him, 9/11 fits right into his yakking. If you are on Spendy's side in his Yakking against Muslims, you automatically fall into his yakking against the Muslims who purportedly did 9/11.

This is exactly what the Zionists want. They are helping to cover up for Silverstein. Who knows what else they (Zionists) are covering up for. They have their own agendas worldwide. And making the Muslims look worse than they are is always part of it. And they have Spendy doing their dirty work for them in a sly and tricky way.

Folks, Arabs and Muslims are a totally different subject from 9/11. Don't let yourselves be sweet talked into thinking they are one and the same. 9/11 was an inside job that probably didn't have even 1 Muslim/Arab in it. But the Zionists need you to think that the Muslims were behind it, if for no other reason than to protect Silverstein.

Spendy is screwing with your mind.

Cool
Well, you've now fully outed yourself as a lying, bat shit crazy Jew Hater.

Jew hater? Why do you say this? I speak up against Islam even as strongly as you at times. In addition, I speak up on behalf of the Jews now and again. Just because you can't find an answer to the 9/11 thing, you pick on my character. Do you really do this for free? If you do, you should hunt yourself up some people who were in on the inside job, and get paid by them... make some good money.

Cool
29920  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 14, 2016, 01:41:32 AM

From the article, at http://www.sciencealert.com/a-classic-formula-for-pi-has-been-discovered-hidden-in-hydrogen-atoms:
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Pi is the ratio between a circle's circumference and its diameter, and is incredibly important in pure mathematics, but now scientists have also found it "lurking" in the world of physics, when using quantum mechanics to compare the energy levels of a hydrogen atom.

Why is that exciting? Well, it reveals an incredibly special and previously unknown connection between quantum physics and maths.

I have explained this connection before, albeit not exactly as the scientists have. Quantum physics has to do with probability. Probability is not reality. Rather, it is like virtual reality. Math is the same. Math is a language that scientists assign to things of the universe so that they can think and talk about the universe intelligently. Yet when they use math, they use it in their virtual thinking, and their minds automatically find the reality without the scientists realizing that math and reality are two different things.

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