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29981  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 15, 2016, 02:50:39 PM
I also wanna buy S9, B3 but the price went up 100$?? better wait then after halving..

in theory the batch 3 will ship today if you pay today.

while batch 2 ships on the 20th

so for 100 usd  you get it 5 days faster.

it would earn 95 usd in 5 days if you have 10 cent power

it would earn 103 usd in 5 days if you have 5 cent power.
29982  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread june 7 to june 20 -picks are open!!.... prize = 0.20 btc on: June 15, 2016, 02:48:33 PM





Picks are open.


-1.2 = philipma1957  If I win I will roll it over.
0.0 = adaseb
+2.2 = Valkir
+2.7 = leowonderful    I changed you to 2.7  as 2.74 is not a legal pick
+3.0 = wlefever
+3.2 = mocacinno
+3.3 = Ankara

+3.5 = slastar
+3.6 = ingiltere

+3.8 = pusttiu
+3.9 = blindminer
+4.0 = alfacro
+4.1 = petahashminer
+4.2 = Erumara
+4.3 = redhack
+4.4 = wpt1wpt1
+4.5 = talks_cheep
+4.6 = Notlist3d
+4.7 = oturanbilboa
+4.8 = LinDin99
+4.9 = Cuidler
+5.0 = ezeminer
+5.1 = Amph    I changed you to 5.1 as 5.0 was taken
+5.2 = VRobb
+5.3 = DanielRo
+5.4 = mikestang
+5.5 = Veves1  
+5.6 = vapourminer      I changed you to 5.6 as 5.5 was taken
+5.7 = DRAZAH
+5.8 = albertamining

+6.0 = topiOleg

+6.3 = PPOC
+6.6 = Psi
+8.3 = edonkey


Note  I made 3 changes:

   leowonderful  2.7 not 2.74   this change is proper format and gives him his pick and more
   Amph            5.1 not 5.0     too late so I assigned the closest number
   vapourminer  5.6 not 5.5     too late so I assigned the closest number


Those three numbers are there to stay  as I had a few people  try to be tricky a while back.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   196,061,423,940

Estimated Next Difficulty:   203,675,977,466 (+3.88%)

Adjust time:   After 910 Blocks, About 6.1 days << Picks will end at 716  that is 194 blocks away


Hashrate(?):   1,436,928,908 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.8 minutes
6 blocks: 57.5 minutes
Updated:   7:45 (3.4 minutes ago)


At Cashew I sent a pm to you that the game is open.

I don't know why but each time I see one of your thread about difficulty predictions, picks are already closed Undecided...
29983  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 15, 2016, 01:14:10 PM
Looks like batch 3 is out now. It's got the same lowered specs as b2, but costs more at $2085.

The price is going in the wrong direction. Looks like it will be a while before I'll be buying.

yeah they jumps price due to coin jump.

looks like batch 2 buyers may have purchased a bargain.

in the meantime  my 2 s-9's  batch ones just got another piece of a block.

today will be really hot in NJ  should be interesting how they fare.
29984  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread june 7 to june 20 -picks are open!!.... prize = 0.20 btc on: June 15, 2016, 01:11:39 PM




Picks are open.


-1.2 = philipma1957  If I win I will roll it over.
0.0 = adaseb
+2.2 = Valkir
+2.7 = leowonderful    I changed you to 2.7  as 2.74 is not a legal pick
+3.0 = wlefever
+3.2 = mocacinno
+3.3 = Ankara

+3.5 = slastar
+3.6 = ingiltere

+3.9 = blindminer
+4.0 = alfacro
+4.1 = petahashminer
+4.2 = Erumara
+4.3 = redhack
+4.4 = wpt1wpt1
+4.5 = talks_cheep
+4.6 = Notlist3d
+4.7 = oturanbilboa
+4.8 = LinDin99
+4.9 = Cuidler
+5.0 = ezeminer
+5.1 = Amph    I changed you to 5.1 as 5.0 was taken
+5.2 = VRobb
+5.3 = DanielRo
+5.4 = mikestang
+5.5 = Veves1  
+5.6 = vapourminer      I changed you to 5.6 as 5.5 was taken

+5.8 = albertamining

+6.0 = topiOleg

+6.3 = PPOC
+6.6 = Psi
+8.3 = edonkey


Note  I made 3 changes:

   leowonderful  2.7 not 2.74   this change is proper format and gives him his pick and more
   Amph            5.1 not 5.0     too late so I assigned the closest number
   vapourminer  5.6 not 5.5     too late so I assigned the closest number


Those three numbers are there to stay  as I had a few people  try to be tricky a while back.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   196,061,423,940

Estimated Next Difficulty:   203,675,977,466 (+3.88%)

Adjust time:   After 910 Blocks, About 6.1 days << Picks will end at 716  that is 194 blocks away


Hashrate(?):   1,436,928,908 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.8 minutes
6 blocks: 57.5 minutes
Updated:   7:45 (3.4 minutes ago)


At Cashew I sent a pm to you that the game is open.

I don't know why but each time I see one of your thread about difficulty predictions, picks are already closed Undecided...

29985  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread june 7 to june 20 -picks are open!!.... prize = 0.20 btc on: June 15, 2016, 11:49:50 AM




Picks are open.


-1.2 = philipma1957  If I win I will roll it over.
0.0 = adaseb
+2.2 = Valkir
+2.7 = leowonderful    I changed you to 2.7  as 2.74 is not a legal pick

+3.2 = mocacinno
+3.3 = Ankara

+3.5 = slastar
+3.6 = ingiltere

+3.9 = blindminer
+4.0 = alfacro
+4.1 = petahashminer
+4.2 = Erumara
+4.3 = redhack

+4.5 = talks_cheep
+4.6 = Notlist3d
+4.7 = oturanbilboa
+4.8 = LinDin99
+4.9 = Cuidler
+5.0 = ezeminer
+5.1 = Amph    I changed you to 5.1 as 5.0 was taken
+5.2 = VRobb
+5.3 = DanielRo
+5.4 = mikestang
+5.5 = Veves1  
+5.6 = vapourminer      I changed you to 5.6 as 5.5 was taken

+5.8 = albertamining

+6.0 = topiOleg

+6.3 = PPOC
+6.6 = Psi
+8.3 = edonkey


Note  I made 3 changes:

   leowonderful  2.7 not 2.74   this change is proper format and gives him his pick and more
   Amph            5.1 not 5.0     too late so I assigned the closest number
   vapourminer  5.6 not 5.5     too late so I assigned the closest number


Those three numbers are there to stay  as I had a few people  try to be tricky a while back.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   196,061,423,940

Estimated Next Difficulty:   203,675,977,466 (+3.88%)

Adjust time:   After 910 Blocks, About 6.1 days << Picks will end at 716  that is 194 blocks away


Hashrate(?):   1,436,928,908 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.8 minutes
6 blocks: 57.5 minutes
Updated:   7:45 (3.4 minutes ago)


At Cashew I sent a pm to you that the game is open.

I don't know why but each time I see one of your thread about difficulty predictions, picks are already closed Undecided...
29986  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos are up. on: June 15, 2016, 11:43:01 AM
Yes  this is for 2 miners at freq 625 fans on 70%.


almost at 28th  with 625 freq




3 blocks so far.  A long way to go for roi

29987  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 15, 2016, 11:36:08 AM


We wish you a happy mining experience,

the Bitmain team


Where is my compensation  from to late shipped Batch1 S7 miner ?
You have my BTC address

ANTMINER S7 BATCH 1 × 2
Date 2015-08-30
Wrong Shipping Date  from Bitmain site  2015-09-28 
Real Shipping Date from DHL  Shipment picked up Thursday, October 08, 2015
Order Total 3535.09 USD

ANTMINER S7 BATCH 1 × 2
Date 2015-08-30   
Wrong Shipping Date  from Bitmain site 2015-09-21
Real Shipping Date           Shipment picked up   Saturday, October 31, 2015
Order Total 15.967 BTC    1BTC=227,66USD

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1296004.msg13373903#msg13373903





 Keep asking for it.  They finally gave my compensation on May first for my batch 1 s-7.  You deserve compensation.
29988  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos are up. on: June 15, 2016, 04:04:09 AM
I'm confused.  Now they are giving us two temp readings.  In the past, for the S7 and others have we just been seeing the pcb temp (labeled: Temp).
Then why now they showing us the chip temp.  Why is that important now?  Poor design?
My pcb temps are running 56, 56, 59 at 625M.  On any other Antminer I would say there is plenty of room for some over-clocking.  Or in this case to move to the default 650M. (EDIT)
Chip temps are 87, 86, 91.  Are these temps higher than an S7 with the above pcb temps?  In other words is there more of variance on this miner than the older ones.  Where we can burn out a chip before the pcb gets to 80C.  That's still the safety shutdown temp. I believe.


Still confused.

when the pcb hit 80c it should shut down


There is zero info on chip and what is bad.

kano.is is  26.31th to 27.13 th  at this moment.

thesee two machine at 7th more the the network was when I started in summer of 2012 !

  network was about 20th
29989  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread june 7 to june 20 -picks are open!!.... prize = 0.20 btc on: June 15, 2016, 02:17:01 AM



Picks are open.


-1.2 = philipma1957  If I win I will roll it over.
0.0 = adaseb
+2.2 = Valkir
+2.7 = leowonderful    I changed you to 2.7  as 2.74 is not a legal pick

+3.2 = mocacinno
+3.3 = Ankara

+3.5 = slastar
+3.6 = ingiltere

+3.9 = blindminer
+4.2 = Erumara
+4.3 = redhack

+4.5 = talks_cheep
+4.6 = Notlist3d
+4.7= oturanbilboa
+4.8 = LinDin99

+5.0 = ezeminer
+5.1 = Amph    I changed you to 5.1 as 5.0 was taken
+5.2 = VRobb
+5.3 = DanielRo
+5.4 = mikestang
+5.5 = Veves1  
+5.6 = vapourminer      I changed you to 5.6 as 5.5 was taken

+5.8 = albertamining

+6.0 = topiOleg

+6.3 = PPOC
+6.6 = Psi
+8.3 = edonkey


Note  I made 3 changes:

   leowonderful  2.7 not 2.74   this change is proper format and gives him his pick and more
   Amph            5.1 not 5.0     too late so I assigned the closest number
   vapourminer  5.6 not 5.5     too late so I assigned the closest number


Those three numbers are there to stay  as I had a few people  try to be tricky a while back.



29990  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 15, 2016, 02:14:16 AM
I guess with these high temps we can assume that the fans are as loud or even louder than the S7s

loud as the s-7  and I have one unit that squeals like a stuck pig.

I know there is a fix for that if anyone had a squealing s-7 and wants to post the fix please do so.



My guess is we will mine at 600 to 625 with the s-9's until the fall  but no pressure at the moment to decide.

maybe simple box fans will cure all cooling as we only have 2 units with two on the way.



I had an S7 that the fan squealed.  The trick was to move a small piece of paper around the intake fan.  You keep moving it around until the you find the spot that the squeal stops and then you tape it there.  Another solution that worked for a bit was to loosen the screw a little bit.

Do you know what the ambient temps were when you got the screen grabs? 

I would think  it was 88f  because it is a loft.

I am not sure the safe chip 0c number ,

I know that

 spondoolies sp20 chips throttle at 125c

intel cpus' throttle at a 72c junction point could be wrong on this

amd gpu's throttle around 93c


but  the readings may not mean much.

the pcb number of 65c should be good
i do not like to see a chip number near 100c
i was near that at 97 c

but the fans are now pointing at the far wall not the close wall
the fans are set at 70% = 4300 rpm
freq dropped to 625 vs stock 650.

here is a screen shot of the two at kanos pool live time 10:10 pm

at freq 625 we are getting 26.82-27.33 th
two units = 4300 usd better safe then sorry Grin
29991  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread june 7 to june 20 -picks are open!!.... prize = 0.20 btc on: June 15, 2016, 01:53:54 AM



Picks are open.


-1.2 = philipma1957  If I win I will roll it over.
0.0 = adaseb
+2.2 = Valkir
+2.7 = leowonderful    I changed you to 2.7  as 2.74 is not a legal pick

+3.2 = mocacinno
+3.3 = Ankara

+3.5 = slastar
+3.6 = ingiltere

+3.9 = blindminer
+4.2 = Erumara

+4.5 = talks_cheep
+4.6 = Notlist3d
+4.7= oturanbilboa
+4.8 = LinDin99

+5.0 = ezeminer
+5.1 = Amph    I changed you to 5.1 as 5.0 was taken
+5.2 = VRobb
+5.3 = DanielRo
+5.4 = mikestang
+5.5 = Veves1   
+5.6 = vapourminer      I changed you to 5.6 as 5.5 was taken

+5.8 = albertamining
+6.0 = topiOleg
+6.3 = PPOC
+8.3 = edonkey


Note  I made 3 changes:

   leowonderful  2.7 not 2.74   this change is proper format and gives him his pick and more
   Amph            5.1 not 5.0     too late so I assigned the closest number
   vapourminer  5.6 not 5.5     too late so I assigned the closest number


Those three numbers are there to stay  as I had a few people  try to be tricky a while back.


29992  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 15, 2016, 12:28:27 AM
I guess with these high temps we can assume that the fans are as loud or even louder than the S7s

loud as the s-7  and I have one unit that squeals like a stuck pig.

I know there is a fix for that if anyone had a squealing s-7 and wants to post the fix please do so.

re-read my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512186.msg15212835#msg15212835 for the edit about that... The effectiveness varies with fan speed but helped immensely here. Should apply to s7's as well.

thank you  I will pick some up at lowes


http://www.lowes.com/pd/Frost-King-13-5-in-x-24-in-x-0-0312-in-Polyurethane-Foam-Air-Conditioner-Filter/3055595
29993  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 14, 2016, 11:53:01 PM
I guess with these high temps we can assume that the fans are as loud or even louder than the S7s
They'll probably run even hotter at the default clockrate. I wouldn't be surprised to see miners breaking down in the summer heat. With these temps, you'd either have to underclock or replace the fans altogether- those temps will shorten the running time dramatically.

at what I paid for these  no oc until sept or oct.  I need to get back some money.

oh I am pretty sure these pull more juice then the s-7 when set to stock.
29994  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 14, 2016, 11:50:37 PM
I guess with these high temps we can assume that the fans are as loud or even louder than the S7s

loud as the s-7  and I have one unit that squeals like a stuck pig.

I know there is a fix for that if anyone had a squealing s-7 and wants to post the fix please do so.



My guess is we will mine at 600 to 625 with the s-9's until the fall  but no pressure at the moment to decide.

maybe simple box fans will cure all cooling as we only have 2 units with two on the way.

29995  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 14, 2016, 11:42:46 PM
so once I realized miners were blowing hot air at the near wall I spun them around  this allows for okay temps

here they are blowing air  towards the far wall  about 70 ft


here are the avalon6's  I replaced.  you can see the grates below allow cool air to be pulled from below.

pointing the s-9 units towards the far side did get temps okay.

29996  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 14, 2016, 11:27:57 PM
I'll leave other to post pics. Got mine today and so far am - happy - with it but...
A. is so far averaging just over 13THs
B. A thermal design issue raises it head with these. The middle card and the one with long finned heatsinks facing the case wall run well over 4.3-.5 THs each. They report chip temps of around 90C. The one with the short fin topsinks facing the case is giving a bit over 3THs and reports the chip temp as banging around 99-100C. The air coming out of that card is also substantially warmer than the other 2. Will measure temps tomorrow sometime.

The root problem is that the short sinks are presenting a much high airflow resistance because the flow channel is restricted by them and the case wall. If somehow move the cards over a smig, hell even 1/8" might do it, then airflow should remarkably improve.

yes short term I down clocked from 650 to 625.

But UPS was late.
I had to dissemble the avalon6s from the array.
My sprained ankle from 65 days ago still hurts. ( bitch to be 59 it would have healed in under 10 days when I was 25-30)
The mining gear is in a loft with a ladder.

First time I turned them on I climbed down the ladder knowing they were mining for bitmaintech. So we went to the pc to check them and  setup kano.is

temps were very high   chips in the 90's






only 2 machines and a large loft  I was supposed to point miners in the direction in this photo
about 70 feet and an up draft fan in the center
29997  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pair on s-9s now running photos to come . on: June 14, 2016, 11:15:58 PM
we needed to get lower freq

but here are final setting on the 2 running

freq 625
fans at manual 70%

https://i.imgur.com/IzEynux.png ---- full size

https://i.imgur.com/CpL7i39.png ---- full size

both at kano.is





at kano.is
29998  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] **5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY** Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: June 14, 2016, 10:59:43 PM

I have two s-9s pointed here.

They were running just a bit hot so we clocked them to freq 625.

 Loud with a whistle fans at 70% 4300 rpm iirc.

Temps are near 60c with downclock. Chips in the 80s

We have two more coming
29999  Bitcoin / Hardware / Pair of s-9s now running photos are up. on: June 14, 2016, 10:23:11 PM
Be patient just got back from solar array with setup.  2 units running. had to downclock just a bit.


photos to come.
30000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Power supply for 6x R9 390 on: June 14, 2016, 05:27:28 PM
just undervolt to -100mv, and you will be fine with 200w max for each of those 390, so a 1500 will be enough
But there is still not enough pcie connectors.

this is the reason why i like the new gpu, they come with 1 x 8 pin only, no more 8+6 crap

Which new GPUs have that? Less connectors

r9 nano use 1     8 pin  and can  do around 180 watts for 25mh stock  but they are costly.

I have 4 at 500 each  I do 720 watts and 101mh

settings are -80   1000 500
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