Usually I don't listen advices without explanation. So I don't stay away from Elliot indeed, I will learn them and I will decide to stay away or not.

I expect a better explanation about elliot waves. There are more details in that theory such as length of lines. Also there are other minor waves in the bigger waves. They should be explained too.

Nobody can predict the market direction especially for this moment.
It can go down like in 2014
__OR__
It can keep going up

Personally I don't think it will go to 20k$ directly.. So even if it goes up, it will delay a bit to make it's big move.
BTC is not totally ready to moon in these days.

Hello,

My question is for traders who use technical analysis actively. I think they have experimented several indicators and they use their own setup combining a few indicators.

What are the good indicators for bear market?

Teşekkürler, böyle cevaplar bekliyoruz, "kimseyi takip etme" tavsiyeleri de güzel ama asıl konu takip ettiğiniz kaliteli kaynakları bir yerde toplamakla ilgili.

Coins can be held in native wallet for many years for sure.
About the price: who knows, you should watch them sometimes and maybe you want to sell some of them before they die forever.
There are some strong coins such as ETH, NEO, LTC, XMR etc which are expected to not die fastly.

Yeni beklentiler yeni problemleri doğuruyor olabilir, herkes 10k 11.8k olunca boğa sezonu başlamış sayacağız diyorya, o iş de patlar gibime geliyor. Çok paranoyak bir piyasa ama beklentiler genelde tersi çıkıyor.

Crypto is stil not something serious for governments. Warren Buffer said "bitcoin is just a game, not an investment". Actually he is right a bit, for now it is a technology and an investment game for whales and other investors.
But for sure it is the future of forex, exchanges, money and many other stuff.

Merhaba, oturum açma şifresi kullanılmasında fayda var. Bu tarz hırsızlık olayları çoğu zaman siz o bilgisayarı aktif kullanıyorken meydana gelebiliyor. O sebeple oturum açma şifresi ancak odanıza girecek insanlara zorluk çıkarabilir, internetten bulaşan virüsler için bir engelleyiciliği bulunmuyor.

O halde size güzel bir hack olayı yaşamanızı diliyorum, belki aklınız başınıza gelir. Nasıl ki evinizde kapınızı kilitlemenize rağmen hırsız kilidi açıp paranızı çaldığında kanunen tüm devlet nezninde hırsızlık olarak algılanıyorsa, bilgisayarınızdaki güvenlik açıklarını aşıp paranızı çalan birisi de hırsızdır!! Hırsıza helal olsun demek ve yapılanı hırsızlık olarak görmemek için ancak aşırı derecede cahil ve kişiliksiz olmanız gerekir.

5 ay önce korkmadan al sat yapıyordum, şimdi bildiğin korkuyorum almaya da satmaya da...
Cesaret, bilgi arttıkça gidiyor, geçen sürede daha fazla şey öğrendim ve kendime ve piyasaya güvenim azaldı. Şimdi alım yapsam sabaha düşmüş uyanır mıyım diye tedirgin olacağım.

Sorry that I'm not a trader, just a noob.
Not only me, many people sees similarities with 2014 in the chart, of course nobody can expect the exact same ratio. So this time it could be 9k then it can go down, or it can be different from now on.
The dangerous thing that when people expect the price to go down, it goes up.

Konuyu hortlatalım, BTC yükseliyor diye yeni gelenlere faydalı olur.

"Bazı" derken, isim de verseniz faydalı olur. Ararken gidip yine dolandırıcılara denk gelme şansı yüksek.

Technical Analysis Pros and Cons

You'll get this refrain a lot, people will say "TA is worthless" or "TA is garbage, magic beans tea leaf reading!".  The folks who shout these claims never provide any statistical evidence for them mind you, they just like to shout at people because the internet makes us all terrible people.

But what exactly is technical analysis (TA) anyway? Investopedia is always a good place to start:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/technicalanalysis.asp

Put simply, it's a tool based off Dow Theory which has plenty of legitimate criticisms but strangely you'll rarely encounter an actual argument on say, Reddit.

So this post is my attempt to briefly highlight the basic advantages and disadvantages to TA.  It's important to note that TA can't be your only tool for trading any given market--news cycles matter, fundamentals matter, and yes, trends matter.  Don't ever rely on just a single tool to make an important financial decision.


Advantages

TA serves two primary functions: it helps us identify and confirm trends, and it helps us make educated guesses as to good entry and exit positions of an asset.  

If you buy into the efficient markets hypothesis (the idea is that the current price reflects all known information at that given point in time) then price movement can be expected to proceed in a logical manner--we call these "trends", if you can identify the trend then you can determine whether it will be beneficial to take a long or short position on a given asset.

If you *don't* buy into the efficient markets hypothesis, we can still acknowledge that many people do, and because many people do they employ tools that fit the EMH and Dow Theory models in their trades--this creates significant volume and significant liquidity and influences prices which then, as a result tends to conform to what TA indicates more often than not.  

It may very well be that TA only functions as well as it does because there is a psychological bias towards it that may not be all that different from a mass hysteria, but whether EMH and Dow Theory is sound or if it's just a spook that fuels mass hysteria, either way we can use it to help us make money.


Disadvantages

TA cannot predict the future, it only helps us see probabilistic outcomes--it can be, and often is, wrong.  Anyone who claims to know what price x will be at time y based on anything is a liar, they might be good guessers but if TA could predict the future we'd all be rich.  TA also does not factor in news cycles or fundamentals (unless you think EMH is true) but that's not an assumption I would work off of.


Conclusion

TA is a tool, I use it in conjunction with looking at the fundamentals of an asset and also factoring in what the news cycle is promoting at the time.  If Coindesk publishes a story at 7am that China is going to ban all bitcoins you may want to take an uptrend that your TA suggests with a grain of salt.  Be smart, don't risk money you can't lose, and don't rely on just one thing to make your decisions.

Source : Cryptoball - patreon post

Below BTC = 10K$ is bear market, when it goes above 10K$ we can say that it is bull season.
For now the chart is similar to 2014, but expect unexpected

Teach me too
So many noise in the internet, one says TA is not useful, other says it is good...
We need a solid strategy when trading, I do not trade until I found or created a good strategy for myself.

It was 400$ or less. But we are so confused...
Now there is a community says BTC will fall at 4000$ soon..
True or false, it creates confusing minds..

Giving a date is not a good practice in this area, whenever you see a date and you start expecting something to happen, almost always happens the opposite one

ETH can give more % profit than BTC this year, my question is when BTC starts mooning, what happens to ETH? Does it die like other altcoins?

I think "successful" day traders know best when to buy, is there any day trader here?
Volume is important thing but we don't know how to analyze it..
Everything is important, TA, News, Project status, Deals etc, but Volume creates the price.
If we can analyzer the Volume, I think there is a hope.