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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which alt coin will gain most value in 2017? on: July 16, 2017, 05:42:33 PM
I don't get why all these votes for Minereum ?
I mean ... yeah, there were no ico but ... devs just had to register hundreds of address and will get a lifetime rent now ... is it really more fair ?
Moreover, I really don't get the use of this token.

I voted for Patientory (looks like I'm the only one who did  Grin) because it exists since quiet some time, and will launch beta and more before the end of 2017.
If it was available, I would have vote for Shift. Because IPFS is the next big thing.
OKCash should do good too.
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are these panic guys insane? Or YOU who are holding tightly coins is insane? on: July 16, 2017, 05:18:35 PM
That's probably the last time bitcoin will drop this low before years.

All is well organized by big miners organisation. They pushed the price to $3000 to sell a major part of their bitcoins first.
Now, they are trying to establish a climat of insecurity. Will chains split ? NO.
In fact, everything will go smoothly. Miners don't care about bitcoins. They just want money. How ?
First, they let you think segwit will not happen, that chains will split blabla ... → bitcoins dump
Some days before the segwit, miners will then buy a crazy number of bitcoins, and then, all miners corporation will magically agree on the segwit.
Segwit will be a success, bitcoin will skyrocket to $5000, as well as altcoins, miners will have done an easy x3.
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ♬ Opus - Beta-Ready Decentralized Music Sharing; Running on IPFS and ETH ♬ on: July 16, 2017, 03:43:40 PM
Sure, we can answer them here. It will benefit that more people can see it and get clarification.

1) Yes we are a streaming service and also not. We are streaming in the sense that when fans are listening through our Core players, the music files are decrypted and streamed on the fly Songs do not need to be pre-downloaded. Now, we are not a streaming service in the sense that users need to pay for songs only once and upfront. It's useful to note here that Amateur artists can set a low price such that songs can essentially be "streamed"

2) The reason we did not go for a (Pay 0.001$ per play) is because we are a development team focusing primarily on existing and technologically feasible solutions. There simple isn't a system (even if Ethereum reaches serenity with raiden, sharding, LX etc...) that can handle tens of millions of microtransfers per minute with close to 0 fees. It's easy to advertise this but when you look at decentralized technologies it's simply not feasible technologically at this moment.

3) Hence you are free to use 3rd party players that may not be fully legitimately developed. I like to point to the PirateBay in this instance with less and less users by the day. History has shown time and time again that users will prefer to pay a small amount to use a legitimate service that supports artists than try to use a un-reliable player that serves illigetimate music. Ofcourse Law enforcement will also limit the success of non-legitimate players. Us removing infringing tracks isn't censorship it's basic intellectual rights. If we for instance censor songs we don't like then 3rd party players can legitimate offer those tracks and attract our "core player" fans.

And thanks again for asking these questions on behalf of others Smiley

This business model seems hardly viable to me.
Firstly, you seem to try taking shares from Deezer and Spotify. I think it's an error : the public going to those platform is interested in listening a LOT of music unlimitedly. A vast majority of this public is incompatible with what you are trying to accomplish.
The target of your platform (as state in your whitepaper) is more focus on pure artist' fans, which is far more restrictive and have a smaller public (= less money flowing).
I agree that, in your configuration, a pay per play seems totally unfeasible, considering that the gas price for a single Ethereum transaction is 2-3$. But is it even viable for song purchase, which are I guess (I never buy songs), somewhere near 1$ each ? If you need to pay 3$ for a 1$ song, it's not viable neither.

So I came with a potential solution. I mean, I'm also a dev (never dealt with blockchain though), I know that what I will say seem simple but is really not that simple in practice. Why wouldn't you create your own chain ? This chain will have 0 fees, allowing both pay per play and buying song. Miners could be rewarded with Opus coins, which would allow them to either sell them or use them to listen music. We could even imagine the mining software integrated in the player. Those who mine would get free listening. Now come the question of blockchain size and number of tx/s. It would be huge, that's right, but there are solutions currently being developed, eg, by Vitalik (https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/26/state-tree-pruning/, https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Sharding-FAQ).
With this chain, no need of Ethereum anymore and those high fees. You'll still need of IPFS though, but as you said, fees are low.
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about those altcoins? on: July 15, 2017, 10:46:49 PM
It's seems like a good start, maybe takes some ETH for some stability

Cough. ETH just went from 20$ to 400$ and is actually traded at a rate of $177. How is this stable ?
There are no stable cryptocurrency at the given time that are stables.
In the future, tokens might become more stable because most of them are basically shares in a company instead of a currency. But at the given time, even tokens are not stable.
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ♬ Opus - Beta-Ready Decentralized Music Sharing; Running on IPFS and ETH ♬ on: July 15, 2017, 10:20:44 PM
First there is a Q&A. It is in the Navbar of the website. Most of these questions are answered there.
Sorry I missed it !
It doesn't fully answer my questions though. See them below.

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What makes Opus different from central streaming services?
The question leads to understand you are a streaming service. However, the main goal of streaming is that it is temporal. From what I understand, you are not a streaming service but a music marketplace. As stated below, it is rather permanent

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Once you purchase the decryption keys to Opus tracks, they will be yours permanently on the decentralized IPFS no matter where you are in the world.
If we can't pay for a subscription plan, then is there a possibility we pay for some kind of temporal access to the song ? (eg, 0.001$ for a one time listening) ?

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Regarding the verification system I will paste the answer here.
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We, at the Opus foundation, frown upon infringing music. As such, we will be removing infringing songs and music from our Core player, just like youtube does.
Ouch. This seems so much like censorship isn't it ? I mean, firstly, comparing to Youtube, who is censoring MANY videos & artist was the worst idea ever  Tongue
Then, again, what tell me you are not censoring some music ? Everything can't be decentralized I agree. And this part is not decentralized (simply because it cant). In this case, I'm not sure the world uncensorable is right. While I'm not saying your team might delete tracks on purpose because they don't like it, you might receive threat sooner or later !

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Hope it cleared up some doubts, for more questions do ask the Devs on slack!
Disagree, slack is too rough. It is also only temporal and has no real way to search for things through. I find it better to discuss problems & solutions publicly so that everybody can benefit from it.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TEZOS raised 231 Million on: July 15, 2017, 09:58:40 PM
It will surely dump under ico price.
Bigger is the ico, smaller is the rise. I can't see anyway it can keep the $231 M market cap. And I'm sad it did not go into others ico ...
Just see how it ended for the dao, bancor and all ico records.
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ♬ Opus - Beta-Ready Decentralized Music Sharing; Running on IPFS and ETH ♬ on: July 15, 2017, 09:38:52 PM
Despite the fact that I wear the signature, I have many doubt about this project.

We got Bitcoin & Ethereum. IPFS is simply just the next big thing and thus, seeing that this project is use both IPFS & Ethereum is a good point.

I've been reading the whitepaper really fast, it might be possible that I missed the point. It is also possible that you already answer the question (a basic Q&A could be good, there are always too much gerbish comments on announcements thread to read everything). Do not hesitate to point me out to somewhere that have the answer instead of losing your time repeating things  Wink


You are comparing your service to Spotify and Deezer which are streaming platforms. Both allow us to :

- Listen music for free (no subscription plan), even if they pay for, because adds are giving enough income.
- Listen music without adds or limit with a pay subscription plan.

I may have badly understand Opus, but it doesn't seems like it is a streaming platform and doesn't allow any of the 2 points above. But then, why would you compare to Spotify & Deezer ? If it is not a streaming platform, how is it different from some kind of decentralized marketplace we already have ?
Do we have to pay for each song we would like to listen ? (big deal) Can we download and listen music offline ? (this one isn't a big deal because in ~ 10 years, we'll all have unlimited data and network everywhere).


Your are speaking about 0 censorship. I don't understand. Is there a team at Opus who will valid songs ?
Let's study a case with the lovely Taylor Swift. Let's say she releases a new song :

- Spotify :
She connects to her account who has been validated by Spotify team. She had to provide documents proving she is Taylor Switf while registering her account.
She sends her song to Spotify and negotiate a price per 10k/listening. Spotify release the song.
If someone other than Taylor Switf try to send Taylor Swift song, it will not get accepted because the guys doesn't have the right on it.

- Opus :
Does the artist have to provide proof of ownership on the song ? How do you protect artist from stealing ?
If Opus team is monitoring new songs to protect artist from this, who tell us that you're not censoring others song ?

Also, does an artist have to pay for uploading one song ? Because IPFS storage cost some money. If not, who pays for it ? Opus ?
308  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 29, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Umsatz nimmt gerade ziemlich ab... oft ein Zeichen für eine anstehende Korrektur...

Aktuell zaehlt nur der Wimpel mit Spitze um den 7. Juli, welcher ja hier schon gepostet wurde. Abnehmender Umsatz ist, je naeher die Spitze rueckt um so wahrscheinlicher.

Ob es dann hoch oder runter geht haengt von den fundamentalen News ab.
Ich hoffe das glaubst du nicht wirklich  Shocked
309  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 29, 2017, 09:01:47 AM

aber es scheint, als wenn es nicht eintrifft
Und die Moral von der Geschicht? Bearish sein lohnt sich nicht!
310  Local / Projektentwicklung / Re: 💹 Coinlend.de - Der Lending-Bot für Poloniex und Bitfinex on: June 29, 2017, 07:34:37 AM
ist Quinex in planung? Habe den bot jetzt testweise laufen auf polo, aber ich traue der plattform nicht so recht. Sehr viele negative Reviews in letzter Zeit, nicht vorhandener support, keine withdrawals, unsichere Webseite etc.
Habe damals schlechte Erfahrungen gemacht mit MtGox falls sich noch jemand erinnert, gebranntes Kind scheut das Feuer usw., insolvenzverfahren läuft ja immer noch... Smiley

Haha gleiche Problem bei mir.
Ich will meine dezentralen Coins nicht wieder auf einer zentralen Börse verlieren Cheesy.

Ich denke ich warte erstmal bis die negativen Berichte aufhören. Bitfinex scheint mir sicherer, da ist der Zins aber mickrig.
311  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 28, 2017, 09:36:20 PM
Da ich ein Miner bin werde ich bei hochs nicht verkaufen, anderen schon.
um dann billiger MEHR zurück zu kaufen. Das ist ein Bullenmarkt
Wieso nicht?
312  Local / Projektentwicklung / Re: 💹 Coinlend.de - Der Lending-Bot für Poloniex und Bitfinex on: June 28, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
18.764,24 $
Gesamt Lending-Balance
903,76 $
Gesamt Zinsen (30d)
Du machst was falsch  Grin ich schätze du hast zu viel auf bitfinex, poloniex hat weit bessere Zinsen
Schon verführerisch.
Lese aber die letzte Zeit häufiger dass Auszahlungen nicht klappen. Muss man sich füt BTC Auszahlungen verifizieren?
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Stellar Lumen airdrop in Polo/Kraken on: June 27, 2017, 08:10:37 PM
Hi guys,

I should have qualified for the airdrop of Stellar Lumens.

Any idea when they will distribute that?
https://www.stellar.org/lumens/bitcoin-lumen-program/

Are you talking about that?
Where can you claim it with kraken?
314  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 27, 2017, 05:23:56 PM
Also ich glaub die nächsten Tage werden lustig.  Grin
315  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Transaktion hängt fest? Was tun wenns klemmt. on: June 27, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
Wieviel sollte man momentan an Gebühr angeben (bitcoin.de)
0,0001
reicht das?

Wird wieder ein bisschen teurer, aber ca. 250 Satoshi pro Byte sollten noch zu einer schnellen Bestätigung führen. Pauschal, ohne zu wissen wie groß die TX ist, kann man das nicht sagen.
Wovon hängt die Größe einer Transaktion ab?
sind ca. 4 Bitcoin, ist egal wenn es einen Tag dauert hauptsache es hängt nicht für immer irgendwo fest .Tongue
316  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Transaktion hängt fest? Was tun wenns klemmt. on: June 26, 2017, 08:24:05 PM
Wieviel sollte man momentan an Gebühr angeben (bitcoin.de)
0,0001
reicht das?
317  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 26, 2017, 06:46:30 PM
Fett gekauft .
Mehr als mutig Grin
318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 25, 2017, 10:13:39 AM
It seems like a unique situation. We have had a pretty decent increase in price but its not as extreme as the previous bubbles.
So hard to guess where the price is going next.
319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 24, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
but still, it earns my living, for now, and i can´t lose anything. Guys do it.
The problem is it seems like you realy believe this xD
320  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 22, 2017, 07:53:54 PM


Meine damalige  "Chartanalyse"
war nicht so genau Wink.
Sah aber doch erschreckend ähnlich
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