It is so good to be true,  bitcoin is only just a commodity as of now because the acceptance is not actually wide and embraced some big first world country wants to regulate it so that that they can always handle such amount,  maybe 50 years i guess this would happen but as of now it is really impossible.  However, i also believe that bitcoin is a great investment rather than usd, but it depends on how i handle it.

Ify you want to know what is the real problem just check the given tx address to etherscan.io and you can see comments below regarding to the issue so far a quite amount of tokens are hacked.

However,  a thread should be completely detailed so that other suggestions can be evaluated well by OP. the statement are not strong so anybody who does not know have to lurk around what is happening. 

P. S.
Check your eth address. 

All i say is that i am very careful regarding to all of my informations before entering into some project that requires kyc,  most of it that i have observed is the https from search engine, without this https green i really don't trust website with less security that is made by some developers as a part of the project. Choose wisely. 

If you need an escrow for service i can recommend you to a very reputable escrow he already handled 20-50 btc transaction by escrowing it.  Pm me here in forum if you need escrow for better and smooth transaction. Buying 20-30 btc is quite dangerous for sure if you don't require escrow.
For clarification, i am not going to be the escrow i am just going to recommend some reputable and trusted escrow with high ranks that i know here in forum.

I think this thread should be moved to services section.
And as far as i am concern every skills and details about your experience and campaigns you handled must be shown in your own portfolio and on other hand, handling campaigns requires trustworthiness so also by trust status, and most important is your rank.  I am not a rank racist but a high rank running a campaign with sure escrow would be highly appreciated and accepted. 

This would not be the period of the discussion but as we can see different value from commodities that serves as a good asset for future purposes, that time to time there are changes of values depending on the economic process that may lead to upgrade or downgrade of economy. The negative effect that crypto currency will receive from national currencies is bad if a certain country will implement banning of crypto currency. As i know crypto is a virtual currency even thou it decreases it's price it will be dependent to fiat since we can not use crypto in reality if there is no conversion to fiat.  

It depends on how many karats does gold have, and how big diamond is, bitcoin is a virtual currency and because of it's volatility and being unregulated is a factor that it has an undeprictable price which can overthrew prices of gold and diamonds. 

It is kinda shady,  when i first tried to use electrum as my wallet, i have lost my private keys, i also post a thread in the electrum wallet section regarding to my problem and been loking for a way to retrieve my private keys and i did use czip. Org even thou i don't know if it this was the real way, the only thing it bothers me coz it says that it is free but you should pay atleast a small amount. So in other words it is not for commercial use. But i don't know if it is suitable to retrieve my lost private keys.  

There is also a factor like what op said that scams and  speculations, but i don't think it is the main reason, even thou there are scams , cryptocurrency is still online, the problem i see and i know, is, that supporters from time to time are getting less,  and by basing on selling bitcoin in the market causes it's value to decrease,  going back to basic about law of demand of supply can help us understand what could be the cause of the problem we encounted as of now.  

OP,  has right to make the informations not hover from this thread, there are rules like data privacy,  He actually said if anybody is interested they can discuss it in private, there are ideas that can be copied so in order for the project to be genuine. informations can still be okay if not publicize.  
This is just my opinion.

If you don't have the patience and acceptance to earn small profit then better to trade your altcoins in bitcoin and hodl,  the best option i want to suggest. Trading is earning small or big amount. currently we are experiencing a bear market so the best option is to be patient and do trading
, or hold and wait for price increase fluctuation.

FOR CELLPHONE USERS ONLY

Magandang Araw Pilipinas.  
Hindi na ako mag papaligoy ligoy pa.  
Mayroon akong natutunan na way para magkaroon ng bitcointalk. org application (parang application)  na mag didirect sayo sa forum. ( Less hassle)

Tutorial.

Una turn off your wifi connection.  Tapos use a browsing app like google chrome. And then search bitcointalk.org
at ito ang lalabas. (sample image)  press download when online tapos proceed sa second step.



Pangalawa.
After that kailangan mayroon ganito na lumabas naman na parang application sa Home ng cp mo (desktop kumbaga)  tapos nakalagay diyan is bitcoin forum index na nagmumukhang application.  Ganto (sample image)




Yan so pag gumana yung technique na to sa phone mo then it's good to go.  Just press the app and it will directly open bitcointalk.org

#Hindi siya virus
#kung gusto niyo lang walng pilitan.

P. S.
Wag piratahin ; suportahan.  

Sana makatulong.  

Any comments related to the topic will be appreciated, and those comment that is not related will be manually reported to moderator.  

Basing by security, i can say that monero takes the lead(IMO). But, bitcoin and ethereum is a real working and useful product as used by the majority so a safe haven as well when it comes to a real financial asset in e-currency industry. I did not include dash in my statement since i am not an investor to it and haven't used it before and in this present.

Illogical complaint , if you don't want to take risk from investing in bitcoin then better not to invest.
 What are you talking about bitcoin regulation?  Do you really know what bitcoin is?
How many bitcoins did you invest and what is the reason why did it lost, if there is?  
Back to basic bud.

It depends to what is the agenda of the developers,  the good thing to make is that you should always look for an ICO which has a really working product and has a potential to have a big impact in the market and will grow as strong  as bitcoin (seriously speaking).

 it will not matter on how much bonuses will they receive,  it really does matter to the product on how will it initiate in the industry and will remain standing still but not llsing the original price of the product/toke on its crowdsale.

April fools!!!!

Ooops sorry i thought that i'm still on the month of april, lol.

Let me fix the topic.  

Edmenestreter, medereter, Deneter prefele here.  

Satisfied?  

I don't know what to say about this because i am not in a position to make an evaluation to this situation.  

So in my own opinion.

Philippine Local board needs that kind of thread wherein newcomers and even old members can gain knowledge from those topic. meanwhile, there are also threads that has nonsense and redundant replies which is needed to be locked or be deleted.

Like examples above.

The good thing is it can be read  by other filipino members, but, suggestions,opinions and questions are not allowed anymore since it is locked.

However, moderator(s) has the right to lock any thread if it is needed because they are hired, to do that job, with an explainable reason.

Again this is only my own opinion.

P. S.
Watching this thread

IMO. The only reason i know is,  maybe he is not well informed about it or he does not care about sharing his smerit, or he didn't see any post which he thinks that is suitable for having merit, (which is impossible).

It is totally inappropriate, try to imagine this,  every sections has different discussion, that is why they have designated names such as "local boards" and "scam accusations" i have chosen that two sections for you to ponder on to the title given. 

I know that you have concern to your co-turkish-citizens, but even thou you translate it to your language it will still be an scam accusation thread that should or must be posted from it's rightful designated section,  the "scam accusation". I hope you understand this well. 

However,  Nice catch OP,  and to Coolcryptovator.

This guy will possibly buy an account,  a caught fish.
 



I was specifically looking for a voice in comment from page 1-2 and only this post makes me think that selling accounts is not prohibited but you will probably get a red tag from DT members,  because most of the bought accounts are used for scamming (not all)  IMO.