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301  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: America's first nuclear-powered bitcoin mining farm on: April 14, 2023, 11:40:18 PM
^^ The cost of building/running a power station is coverd earlier here in this thread. The point here is that nuclear power *can* be pretty inexpensive and more to the real point - a steady stable power source - compared to anything other than hydro once the build costs are covered.
302  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: America's first nuclear-powered bitcoin mining farm on: April 14, 2023, 10:34:04 PM
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Transmission losses account for about 20%, and of course you need to maintain those transmission lines. If you consume it locally (at the generation), then not only you have that extra 20% capacity back, you also skip the maintenance cost of the lines.
In the US the transmission systems are owned/ran by 5 different regional authorities who buy the power from power plants and then of course markup what they charge the end users (your local power companies). Those Public Utility Councils/Commissions (PUC's) are for-profit businesses. After the PUC's comes your local electric companies - again, for-profit businesses. Yes they are all regulated to limit net profits to be no more than a few % over operating costs (which includes what they paid for the electricity) but it all adds up quickly.

All of that brings us to the main advantage of 'behind the meter' power for data centers & mining farms: The fact that pretty much world-wide the typical output of utility-scale power generators - as in the actual generators used - is either 4800 or 9600 VAC. To be sent out to The Grid that voltage is stepped up to several hundred kVAC or more before leaving the power plant through massive and of course massively expensive transformers. Now it just so happens that your local utility will be feeding most of their large power users who use up to several 10's of MW per-building with <drum roll please> either 4,800 or 9,600VAC coming straight from a local substation to feed each building's incoming power transformer(s).

That means the power plant only has to provide needed switchgear & breakers tied to the generator buses to feed normal incoming power lines and transformers for each building. End result is of course dirt-cheap power for the adjoining data/mining campus.
303  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How much do I need to start mining? on: April 14, 2023, 02:22:15 PM
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To gain experience, you can buy a small mining farm on 4x Rx470 video cards, but this is only for training.And you need to have at least a little experience with components.
Training? Training in what - how to setup a PC for mining with GPU's? Um, considering this is the Bitcoin area and using GPU's is only viable for mining alt crapcoins, that route is useless.

Aside from knowing how to deal with the heat and noise Bitcoin mining hardware is pretty much plug-n-play.
304  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Why dont bitcoin hardware manufacturers re release old equip with smaller node on: April 12, 2023, 09:49:44 PM
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But another problem here is that materials for old S9 and new antminer will cost almost the same while the difference in their price will be huge.
Along that line, the single most expensive bit of a "s9 mk2" would be the all new photolithography masks needed to respin the chip at the 7 or even 5nm node... When spending several million$ per layer it make zero sense to use older designs.

Now, using the fewer of the current chips to make a <1kw miner - certainly doable but as others have pointed out mfgrs wound have to tack on a hefty 'limited market' $/THs penalty because the of making the housing, controller, etc would be almost the same as it is for the big miners.

Frankly, Sidehack is covering that limited market quite well using BM's s17 chips. I have no doubt that once s19 chips become available in suitable quantities his R909 will be followed by a new version using them  Grin
305  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 273 blocks solved! on: April 12, 2023, 08:06:43 PM
PLEASE
who helps me configure my futurebit node to mine my own node someone does me the favor if they are kind
Um, any reason you did not post in the Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread? This area has nothing to do with that...
306  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What would be happened in 2024/28 BTC halving? When mining would be expensive? on: April 12, 2023, 07:18:58 PM
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which also means well for the second-hand gaming community since that only means more cheap GPUs to forage.
Considering that for all intents and purposes ever since 2014 BTC has been unmineable using GPU's I highly doubt that... Any farm that at one time mined BTC with GPU's will have closed their doors long long ago.
307  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: MERGED MINING on: April 12, 2023, 07:12:14 PM
Merge mining uses the same hash rate to work on two blockchains at once: the original blockchain (e.g. Bitcoin) and the merge mined blockchain (e.g. RSK or NMC).

Note that it is mining 2 different coins so it is NOT a faster nor more efficient way to mine Bitcoin. It only benefits the secondary coins. Even more to the point, the block rewards originate as the secondary coins and do not count as finding a BTC block. Depending on where you are mining those may be converted to BTC but of course they have a much smaller value then BTC.
308  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: What do you think about using Cryptotab to mine Bitcoin? on: April 10, 2023, 03:05:38 AM
It and all other browser-based 'mining' programs/add-ons are at best scams and at their worst malware that can steal passwords and other login data, crypto addresses, etc.. Avoid at all costs!
309  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin Mining with Nuclear Power on: April 08, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
"International permission"?
There is actually really an international atomic organization that has very strict rules on how an nuclear power reactor has to run. Yes they have no right to enforce it, but actually basically all countries do comply with those rules, because if you do not comply in your own country also other countries will stop to comply. And if the reactor in your neighbor country explodes it becomes also your problem very quickly...
You have a serious misconception of what the IAEA is and does. A good place to start is here.
Established in 1957, more than anything it is a clearinghouse of research and real-world facility operations databases covering all aspects of nuclear programs involving power generation and *other* uses.

Because of the open flow of information between researchers along with industry and government representatives, yes it has countless whitepapers covering what should be best practices in design and operations but there are no guidelines per-se. It is a (theoretically) non-political, independent and globally recognized 3rd-party monitor of nuclear programs. The IAEA has zero say in the licensing processes. That is entirely up to each countries governments. Same applies to said governments even allowing IAEA access to information about their nuclear programs.
310  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 273 blocks solved! on: April 08, 2023, 03:46:08 PM
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I am using this: https://github.com/tpruvot/cpuminer-multi
I am using their windows pre-compiled release.
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Um, you might want to read this Mainly point-3....For all intents and purposes, mining BTC using CPU's is impossible. You are seeing no results because you are never submitting a single share. Odds are at least 1 block if not more are found before you could compute even 1 share. I say *could* because each time a block is found on the network the work sent to a miner is changed so the time your CPU(s) spent counts for nothing.
311  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin Mining with Nuclear Power on: April 08, 2023, 03:04:32 PM
Nuclear power plant is not as simple as you say. To set up a nuclear power plant, not only a country's permission should be obtained, but the permission to construct a nuclear power plant should be obtained from the international level. And I don't think anyone can accept such a permit from the international level.

There should be no residential areas within a few hundred kilometers of the location of the nuclear power plant.  Then you understand how dangerous nuclear power plants are for human life. And how threatening to human life. ...
"International permission"? When mankind cannot even agree to end wars which just so happens to be a bigger threat to survival than any source of power? Riiiigggghhhhttt.. And I'd like to fly and spit diamonds - don't see that happening either.

Just what apparently very colorful and wacky world with everyone singing Kumbaya & hugging do you live in? Yes, nuclear power is dangerous if proper design & operation rules are not followed. Guess what, so is any power plant regardless its type.

With proper location away from earth faults and tsunami areas along with having properly trained operators nuclear power is safer and does far less environmental damage than almost any other type of power.
312  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: April 07, 2023, 09:57:11 PM
Question: I'm sure this is as basic as it sounds, but in general how many sticks can I power off a standard home outlet? 20A Circuit. I'm assuming if each is drawing around 3A then maybe I can run 6? Just didn't know if its truly as simple as that.
Um, it's not... Each stick is pulling 3A at 5vdc or 15w. In North America all standard 120VAC outlets are 15A, not 20. 120v * 15A = 1,800w if pushed to the max (not a good idea to do 24x7). Thass a whole lotta sticks Smiley
313  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: April 07, 2023, 08:46:21 PM
It seems Like Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Hits Another New All-time High Today.
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47.0846 T
And as has been asked elsewhere 'Another new all time high' for difficulty is newsworthy or cause for concern, why?
Ever since Bitcoin began difficulty has almost always hit a new ATH every epoch. Ja very occasionally it goes down a bit but the main trend is always UP. It's part and parcel of how BTC works...

That said, it certainly does translate to huge number of miners going online...
314  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new pod miner, just in time for Christmas on: April 07, 2023, 12:35:56 PM
Welp, ... and then magic smoke. ...
Any ideas for a cause and suggestions for a fix?
I don't think you'll ever be able to get the magic smoke back where it was.
Ja. It takes skilled technicians to tame it and bring it under control again...  Grin
The repair/replace process starts with you contacting the reseller you got it from.
315  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How effective is biowaste energy in bitcoin mining on: April 07, 2023, 01:10:25 AM
Came across this company https://www.jenbacher.us/en/our-solutions who not only specialize in biogas but co-generation as well to use the waste engine heat to create more power...
316  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone building hotter exhaust temp ASICs? on: April 06, 2023, 03:51:07 PM
I suppose that I should point out that the OP's ideas regarding using the heat from miners to generate power is not something new. Using comparatively low temperature waste process heat to generate power has been done for decades. Just do a search for 'waste heat co-generation'.
317  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone building hotter exhaust temp ASICs? on: April 05, 2023, 10:21:58 PM
Actually spondollies did 120c if IIRC.
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Along that line, mining chips are designed to run most efficiently in a fairly narrow range of temperatures. In the case of mining chips it is very hot compared to other kinds of chips - the only others designed for high temperature applications are for automotive & aerospace uses. Back to miners, the old Spondollies are a perfect example of that. Their chips were designed to run at such a high temp because the miner form factor dictated a 2U high rack mount which meant cooling issues. They worked quite well BUT very often needed a pre-heat from an external source (a hair dryer) before they would even start...

That narrow temp constraint is still true today. It's why most miners start with a minute or 2 of high power operation to get them warmed up then restart to begin applying the configured speed & Vcore parameters. The other way would be like how Kano's drivers for Sidehacks Compac's does it: They force the miner to start at a fixed low speed and ramp up in steps with each having to satisfy performance checks before going higher to finally reach configured speed giving the chips the needed pre-heat levels.

On cooking, remember for medium rare beef target temp is 140F (60C) so using a hot-side fluid temp of around the 70-80C temp chips want to run at put through a secondary heat exchanger loop to suvee meats would be quite doable...
318  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Biden proposed 30% mining tax. what would impact on Bitcoin mining? on: April 04, 2023, 10:46:04 PM
Texas' anti-Bitcoin mining bill passed through Senate committee uncontested without a single opposition vote today. It is on the "uncontested" list, which means it has a 95%+ chance of passing the Senate. There is a possibility that Texas will become a global hub for mining.
Links please or it's just random Internet rambling...
319  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone building hotter exhaust temp ASICs? on: April 04, 2023, 10:26:43 PM
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What I don’t understand in your equation is, that there is not the input power needed. A miner will put out 99% of the input power out as heat. A steam or combustion engine will not convert 99% of input power into heat.
Wrong. Even the minuscule amount of energy that 'leaks out' as data over the LAN becomes heat.

100% of the power feeding a miner is turned into heat. Even the energy transferred to the air by the fans increasing the air pressure so it moves also slightly raises it temperature.

The energy feeding any device cannot just disappear. Even when used to cause motion or whatever, at the end of the chain it eventually it becomes heat.

As for the OP's equation - that deals with the amount of usable work energy that can be recovered from the energy put in. 'Usable' being defined as being able to produce work be it powering a pump, moving a vehicle, etc. or generating electricity so the recovered energy can be used elsewhere. A miner does not do that. It just sucks in energy and uses it to power circuitry for the calculations & runs other sundry things like the fans. Since aside from running the fans no physical effort is created all the input energy consumed is directly transformed into heat
320  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: asicboost 16 midstates development on: April 04, 2023, 03:38:03 PM
Ah, then you should edit the OP topic title like I just did to reflect your actual question...
That said, it is probably a combination of both the chips and pools limiting it to 4 midstates. My guess is that the chip circuitry only supports 4 and the pools expect that. The whitepaper on AsicBoost makes mention of it increasing chip complexity and to the Foundries making chips complexity = higher cost. I seem to recall discussion long long ago when ASICboost was introduced about using more midstates introducing too much lag into the miner communications which is why using 4 was settled on as a good compromise.
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