It's good :-) Hope you will consider reserving more SMLY just for development etc. though~
Even Bitcoin nowadays has the wallet seed system in its Core wallet ;-) It's hard enough to get people to back up in the first place without also getting them to back up every copy they have that's in active use!
Yes. We have spent some SMLY on development (within the rules set out in the mandate at http://smileyco.in), but you're right that we could do a lot more. You'll recall that we made a deal with the coinomi group and they have a really nice Android wallet which includes the SMLY :-) They have a seed system... It seems a bit of a pity to sell SMLY at under 1 Satoshi, though :-( -- and if we try to buy stuff for 2-3 BTC by selling SMLY, then the SMLY price plummets... We're in the enviable position of being able to hire summer students for various tasks. This helps both us and the students so that has been our preferred way of doing things (plus a variety of grants). So our emphasis has been on doing stuff which we can easily do in that manner. The most recent task is a web-page for trading a variety of electronic coupons for SMLY. This is almost ready and initially it is aimed at our largest user group, students in Iceland. We'll see in a few weeks how far we can take this. I know many of you think we're not doing enough, but we do also need your help and I'll give a few examples. - We really need to get into ShapeShift. Let them know that you think SMLY should be included.
- Uquid has not replied to a request to include SMLY on their card. Help us get there.
- Same with Gift Off
- etc etc
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It's time to boast a little bit: After 2 years, we're still alive :-) The highlights: The SMLY, used to reward students for achievements in the open tutor-web system, reached a ripe and mature two years of age at the end of November 2016. Students have been awarded 2.7 bn SMLY over the course of the 2 years. The coin is mined in several mining pools and is available on LTC and DOGE markets on several exchanges (see above). Educational efforts underway in Kenya, through Education in a suitcase give hope to the use of SMLY as a means to support students in low-income regions. |
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These pools are now active:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/MineShaft/?pool=SMLY&Algo=Scrypthttps://smly.hashlink.euhttps://prohashing.com/ We know hashlink - they've been with us for a while but there was some hickup in SMLY mining until a few minutes ago and now it seems to run smoothly. Cryptopia is very very nice. Their mining is somewhat commercial but the operation will run for at least a month. stratum+tcp://stratum-eu1.hashlink.eu:3045 user.miner sswd stratum+tcp://mineshaft1.cryptopia.co.nz:1000 user.miner sswd stratum+tcp://prohashing.com:3333 user c=Smileycoin Just for the record, I'm not sure about Prohashing: I've checked their block explorer more than once and it seems that blocks generated by miners in the Prohashing pool only contain the single transaction to pay the mining fee. Blocks generated by other pools seem to pick up any other transactions. If this is correct, then there is a problem with using Prohashing for mining. If anyone knows better, please correct me!
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still Litecoin references in the Windoze QT wallet
Settings->Options->Main tab...
and
Help->AboutSmileycoin
the window titlebar says Litecoin
the window body calls it Litecoin version v0.8.7.1...
and you may want to add an extra line for Copyright (c) 2014-2016 "Smileycoin developers" ??
assuming you changed anything other than logos and references to the word Litecoin
oh, and
Help->Debug
the window titlebar says Litecoin
Thanks: We'll try to get rid of these in our next release (none of us use Windows so we don't see any of these). |
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It was a bit of a bummer to lose coinplorer and yeah, prohashing.com is not the perfect explorer  Hopefully we can get Chainz to incorporate SMLY. I'd appreciate feedback on how we at Prohashing can improve our block explorer. What would make it better? OK, first I'd like to apologise for the above wording. I like Prohashing and it is really very good for certain things, it's just that it doesn't give what I often use a block explorer for. Let me explain by comparing https://chainz.cryptoid.info and https://prohashing.com/explorer/Smileycoin/What I really like about Prohashing: When searching for abuse in the tutor-web, prohashing is the perfect thing. You enter a suspect address and you get all the blocks, cumulative up to the current amount. You can then click on a withdrawal and see the corresponding transaction simultaneously with the address. Basically it is incredibly easy to search for a culprit, find links between addresses and find where coins are being aggregated. What is better in a "traditional" block explorer: A classic block explorer begins by showing the list of the most recent x blocks. This was done in the late coinplorer and it is done in Chainz. When looking at whether the chain is healthy or there are hiccups such as occasional long delays in block generation, or see difficulty development, this is the thing one looks at. Also in both of these, there is (was) easy access to a "rich list". In summary, it's not clear to me that you want to change prohashing.com or simply stay different. I honestly think you are better for the casual user, but you lack features which a tech geek uses...(or maybe I didn't find them!) I suppose the one thing which I missed most often - while Prohashing was our only explorer - was a way to visit a block or transaction through a url. Your interface is nicer than most, but I do often like to store or send someone a transaction to look at and it is very nice to be able to send just a link https://chainz.cryptoid.info/smly/tx.dws?b29d44602926a1705b8d7bbf6553ed672f36c76be0f8f72f1336812eb8b45f31.htm. |
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I'd like a discussion on this, but there are two obvious options: - Re-allocate them back into the tutor-web and then to new students
- Donate them to the sister project of the tutor-web, Education in a Suitcase
Either of those is fine by me. You might also consider using them for the development of the coin, for instance solving the issue of the occasional long gaps between blocks -- An experienced dev might accept some SMLY as a bounty. Yeah I think the development is key. I love this project but I just do not know how to support it. On this topic there is also another thing which I've been meaning to bring forward on this forum. We do have some further options with regard to development, but we need to be very careful how they are used. On the smileycoin home page ( https://tutor-web.info/smileycoin) the following text has been from the beginning: As explained elsewhere on this page, the pre-mined coins are used to reward students for their performance. In addition, the project will award grants to developers and entrepreneurs, who aim to use the smileycoin in their systems or otherwise develop environments which lead to increased use of the SMLY. Uses may include but are not limited to gaming projects requiring the use of SMLY as a currency.It would be in accordance with this to use the equivalent of a bitcoin or two to pay for particularly important development. Again, we need to be very careful since we don't want to just spend the premine willy-nilly on pet projects. By far most of it needs to go to students. Please consider prioritising development of the coin a little more. That's how the value of the coin increases and how the coin becomes useful beyond being a token to immediately exchange for a satoshi Everybody wins, including the students. - The time gaps between the blocks need to be resolved. - Like most cryptocurrencies, there's the issue where the desktop wallet will eventually generate addresses that aren't in earlier copies of the wallet.dat (so if you copy your Windows wallet.dat to use in Linux, you might end up losing coins). Could it be set up to use the same kind of HD seed as Coinomi? Could it allow the user to import Coinomi seed words? - Like most cryptocurrencies, you can't use the desktop wallet until it's synced. Can it not operate in SPV node until it's synced? By the way: - ANN OP says "Android wallet, ipones, iPad etc: Search for Smileycoin in the Google Playstore or the Apple App store." << iOS wallet is gone now  - https://www.scryptpool.com/pool/SMLY << "This pool is disabled. This could mean the pool is being set up, in maintenance or being removed." (I don't know whether this is news or not.) - https://coinplorer.com/SMLY << "Website is offline No cached version of this page is available." - https://prohashing.com/explorer/Smileycoin/ << This is online, but doesn't have a list of the X most recent blocks AFAIK, making it uncomfortable to use as a main block explorer. - http://coinofview.com/coin/Smileycoin.html << Is listed as a block explorer in the OP, but is it one? (EDIT: Oh, it's under the category 'Block explorers and coin info' -- Can we give Block Explorers their own heading?) - I suggest you consider paying someone like Chainz (CryptoID) to host a block explorer -- Msg fairglu on this forum. - http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=3422 << ANN posts on other sites do not seem to be being kept up to date. Cryptopia and NovaExchange are not listed in that ANN's OP. Is Vindyne8 so expensive?  BitcoinTalk is a little shady (donations from users were apparently embezzled) so not everyone wants to use it. ANN posts on these other sites should be kept updated, and in various languages too, and linked to from this site's ANN OP. Cheers! That was very useful, thank you! I've gone through the list and attended to a few of them. It was a bit of a bummer to lose coinplorer and yeah, prohashing.com is not the perfect explorer Hopefully we can get Chainz to incorporate SMLY. The scryptpool site is supposedly temporarily down (according to the pool owner), so I'm going to keep it in a bit longer. |
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I'd like a discussion on this, but there are two obvious options: - Re-allocate them back into the tutor-web and then to new students
- Donate them to the sister project of the tutor-web, Education in a Suitcase
Either of those is fine by me. You might also consider using them for the development of the coin, for instance solving the issue of the occasional long gaps between blocks -- An experienced dev might accept some SMLY as a bounty. Yeah I think the development is key. I love this project but I just do not know how to support it. On this topic there is also another thing which I've been meaning to bring forward on this forum. We do have some further options with regard to development, but we need to be very careful how they are used. On the smileycoin home page ( https://tutor-web.info/smileycoin) the following text has been from the beginning: As explained elsewhere on this page, the pre-mined coins are used to reward students for their performance. In addition, the project will award grants to developers and entrepreneurs, who aim to use the smileycoin in their systems or otherwise develop environments which lead to increased use of the SMLY. Uses may include but are not limited to gaming projects requiring the use of SMLY as a currency.It would be in accordance with this to use the equivalent of a bitcoin or two to pay for particularly important development. Again, we need to be very careful since we don't want to just spend the premine willy-nilly on pet projects. By far most of it needs to go to students. |
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I have a Request For Comment: As you will know, (almost) half the potential SMLY were premined, to be used inside the tutor-web educational system. The way this works is that the tutor-web system gives SMLY rewards. The goal is to spend roughly the same number of SMLY on students as get mined by miners, i.e. about 12 billion SMLY over the first 7 years of the project (at which point halving occurs). When a student earns SMLY these SMLY are allocated to them but only transferred once the student has provided a wallet address into which to redeem the SMLY. The tutor-web system thus has its own internal wallet which receives SMLY occasionally from cold storage. These are then held in the tutor-web wallet until a student decides to redeem the SMLY into their own wallet. The tutor-web wallet only needs to hold enough SMLY to pay all the active students. But many of the students simply ignore their SMLY. In fact we've recently announced that the tutor-web system will not keep their SMLY forever, i.e. after a couple of years the students have forfeited their SMLY. Note that these have already been removed from the premine wallet(s) and allocated to students, but not redeemed. So here is the question: What should we do with unclaimed SMLY? I'd like a discussion on this, but there are two obvious options: - Re-allocate them back into the tutor-web and then to new students
- Donate them to the sister project of the tutor-web, Education in a Suitcase
Re-allocating them back into the tutor-web could certainly be done. That would not change anything. EIAS could easily put the SMLY to good use. This would certainly help in buying tablets&servers for students&schools in Africa etc. The way to implement this would be to announce on the tutor-web grade-page that SMLY which have not been redeemed will (after x years) be donated to EIAS. I'd like your feedback on this. |
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8 hours and no block -_-
Yeah, this is not good :-( It's back up, but there clearly was some hiccup in the pool. We still have a chronic problem of nobody mining unless very profitable and then more than one pool directs all of their efforts at this coin - after which it promptly is no longer profitable. The owner no longer replies to emails. Looks like the project has been abandoned. Some of the pools provide the same info though. Any suggestion to where to go for a "primary" block explorer? Why I cannot solo mine this coin? Tell me what machine to run and I will buy one and point it at this coin. Please tell me and I will do. You are more than free to solo mine. Note that this is a scrypt-based coin and the difficulty is normally at least 12. This implies that it is not really feasible to solo mine using a CPU or a GPU on an ordinary PC (or Mac). Basically you need a scrypt ASIC to mine it. We've been using Zeus Thunder X3&X6 scrypt ASICS and getting them off ebay, where they are typically sold for $250-$500 (depending on configuration and luck). Of course there is no guarantee that they will work :-) Depending on the cost of electricity this may or may not be profitable (probably not). Each of these gets 15-30 MH/s and the X3 draws about 1000 watts. I know there are people mining scrypt coins using scrypt KNC Titans. These are no longer in production and are rarely seen on ebay, but at 100-300 MH/s they can be run profitably in spite of being quite expensive. We're not quite ready to buy these beasts (yet). All the ASICs are noisy and you can certainly not sleep in the same room when one of these is running. You'll need to hook most of them up to a computer - they are not standalone. Doesn't that ruin the popularity of a coin? I mean if it was a GPU coin then more people can participate, get into it. OK, I presume with this you mean more miners :-) We're actually getting 500-1000 new students "participating" every year! They get rewards from the tutor-web system where this is used internally. So although I agree with you and others in this thread that there are many good reasons why we should make this a multi-algo coin, we do actually have a fair number of new users :-) Those users are not really affected by the algorithm (any more than most Bitcoin users are) - there are other reasons for implementing an alternate algorithm. |
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SMLY is now in the coinomi wallet!!
Now we would really, really appreciate it if ShapeShift will accept SMLY also.
If you have not looked at coinomi then you should do that - this is a really nifty little wallet.
Very very cool! Is there something about this I can retweet? Yeah, @smileycoinnews has a tweet out. |
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SMLY is now in the coinomi wallet!!
Now we would really, really appreciate it if ShapeShift will accept SMLY also.
If you have not looked at coinomi then you should do that - this is a really nifty little wallet.
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Cool service! I'm sure you've noticed that for a while now you've been at the top of our list of block explorers in the opening page of this thread. Hope you don't mind :-) |
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I'm afraid this is true. It's time for a report. First the basics: We got word a few days ago that they had removed the wallet and filed a question right away. When they basically answered nonsense, we repeated the question, got nonsense again and then filed an appeal. I got a phone call today on behalf of the appeal board stating in no uncertain terms that we would not be allowed in the App Store. Period. To give you all some more background, this is how things have gone: Their guidelines state that "Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies (e.g. Bitcoin, DogeCoin)" so we figured we might have a chance here, since it says "e.g.", not "specifically". Their nonsense emails kept interpreting the sentence in the latter way. Those seemed to be written by someone who didn't have a clue. But on the phone, when confronted with their own guidelines, the response was that these are just examples of approved currencies. They have a definitive internal list of approved currencies which is not given in the guidelines. They claim to take each request for a coin and process it. They have come to a decision which is not in our favour. I'm not sure there is anything we can do :-( It certainly did not sound like it. When I explicitly asked them what the decision was based on, i.e. whether there was anything we could do or how we could get a coin accepted, the response was that the decision process is an internal process which they do not reveal outside Apple. When I then said "that's not very useful" the guy basically said "you can develop an HTML5 wallet which the users can download and save as a link". |
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8 hours and no block -_-
Yeah, this is not good :-( It's back up, but there clearly was some hiccup in the pool. We still have a chronic problem of nobody mining unless very profitable and then more than one pool directs all of their efforts at this coin - after which it promptly is no longer profitable. The owner no longer replies to emails. Looks like the project has been abandoned. Some of the pools provide the same info though. Any suggestion to where to go for a "primary" block explorer? Why I cannot solo mine this coin? Tell me what machine to run and I will buy one and point it at this coin. Please tell me and I will do. You are more than free to solo mine. Note that this is a scrypt-based coin and the difficulty is normally at least 12. This implies that it is not really feasible to solo mine using a CPU or a GPU on an ordinary PC (or Mac). Basically you need a scrypt ASIC to mine it. We've been using Zeus Thunder X3&X6 scrypt ASICS and getting them off ebay, where they are typically sold for $250-$500 (depending on configuration and luck). Of course there is no guarantee that they will work :-) Depending on the cost of electricity this may or may not be profitable (probably not). Each of these gets 15-30 MH/s and the X3 draws about 1000 watts. I know there are people mining scrypt coins using scrypt KNC Titans. These are no longer in production and are rarely seen on ebay, but at 100-300 MH/s they can be run profitably in spite of being quite expensive. We're not quite ready to buy these beasts (yet). All the ASICs are noisy and you can certainly not sleep in the same room when one of these is running. You'll need to hook most of them up to a computer - they are not standalone. |
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8 hours and no block -_-
Yeah, this is not good :-( It's back up, but there clearly was some hiccup in the pool. We still have a chronic problem of nobody mining unless very profitable and then more than one pool directs all of their efforts at this coin - after which it promptly is no longer profitable. The owner no longer replies to emails. Looks like the project has been abandoned. Some of the pools provide the same info though. Any suggestion to where to go for a "primary" block explorer? |
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The Education in a Suitcase project (which distributes servers&tablets to low-income schools&students) can now accept credit card donations thanks to an intermediary, Dalpay. The donation page (still only in Icelandic) is at http://educationinasuitcase.com/donation/If you donate, then you can request some SMLY instead. Although this may be the easiest way to get some cryptocurrency it is not the cheapest  but you will be supporting a very good cause. Note that the currency used is (still only) Icelandic kronas and there are about 120 such to the US dollar. This is in addition to other forms of support, listed above. |
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There are now clearly several people mining. Thank you!
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Looks like there hasn't been a block for 4 hours  There are very few nodes on the network that I can see too, usually. How about allowing a proof-of-stake block if it's been more than 10 mins since the last block? Hmm. The hashlink pool is down; so is cryptopia; so is scryptpools :-( Is anyone using hashnova or prohashing? Let's try to point miners to one of these. If you know what you are doing with either of these, please tell the rest of us :-) |
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