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301  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is a 20% Annual Return good ? on: October 04, 2023, 09:29:51 AM
It's a really good return, your 100 bringing back 20 is nothing to scoff at, if you look at what banks offer when it comes to returns or rather their interest rates, people are flocking on 5% annual return so yeah I think it's a good return but given it's crypto market, you should know that there's a possibility that you might not be able to continue that kind of return unless you have a solid plan.
In fact, if we look at the risks we face, in my opinion 20% is a small number and not worth it with the big risks in the crypto market, we should be able to get bigger.
However, if you compare it with other investments, 20% is a fairly high return. We also have to look at this realistically because every possible profit will be proportional to the large or small risk we will face.
302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 04, 2023, 08:36:54 AM
Anywhere David Gea is right now will be laughing so hard. How Manchester United moves from a goal keeper that receive medal of golden glove to Onana is really traumatizing, you can't compare Onana stats with De Gea, I'm not sure about Onana place in his former team but coming to Manchester United is one of the worst move I have seen in Manchester United, either he is encourage to improve or eventually improve, Onana will not last in that club because they will dispose him and if there is not a buyer, they will bench him and bring another competent goal keeper.
Even De Gea definitely continues to get entertainment when watching his former team compete because they have always had bad results so far. That is real karma for Manchester United because they have thrown away an experienced goalkeeper like De Gea and preferred a goalkeeper who was only good for one season. Erik ten Hag certainly no longer has a face in front of the Red Devils fans and now we know very well that this coach's quality is only good in the Dutch league when he handles Ajax. Manchester United is a big team and he shouldn't compare it to Ajax, where even the competitive level of the league also feels very different.

In fact, Manchester United still has a good goalkeeper like Altay Bayindir, who they brought in from Fenerbahce this summer, but unfortunately Erik Ten Hag doesn't want to trust him at the moment.
I think it is appropriate for Erik ten Hag to be fired, since the beginning of his arrival at Manchester United he has made a lot of changes but this team has not improved and even his relationship with the players is not harmonious, Erik ten Hag must be responsible for all of this.
And in the UCL match against Galatasaray, Onana again became the subject of discussion because of his poor performance, and in my opinion, from the first time, Onana's performance was not impressive and the decision made by Ten Hag to replace De Gea with Onana was quite a fatal mistake.
303  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will you sell...next bull run? on: October 04, 2023, 08:19:40 AM
When time tells me to sell! Its complex, will depend on that situation. But btc always dump after pump. So it Won't be a bad idea to sell high and buy low. Next next bull run is unpredictable, time is unpredictable, many thing could be happened. I can't risk long hold 2 bull run with all my assets.
As long as the sale can provide a decent profit for you, I don't think there is anything wrong with doing it when Bitcoin prices are high. But I don't want to say that Bitcoin was dumped after being pumped, because words like that are only more suitable for altcoins, not for Bitcoin even though the price decline after being pumped also looks not much different from the others. The next bullrun cannot be predicted if it is aimed at prices, but each person can make their own decision in surviving or taking risks on Bitcoin or others because each person's ability to do so is also very different.
We also can't wait for the highest price, no one knows when that will happen, but regarding whether to let go or keep holding on, we should return to the initial planning when buying, we should make a plan for the profit we will take and when this has been achieved then the The right thing to do is to sell it, regardless of whether we will buy it again with different plans in the future.
It really doesn't make sense when there are people who believe that Bitcoin will be thrown away after being pumped, even though we have seen what happened in the past and even so we should be able to learn a lot and believe in the same thing.
304  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession? How to face It? on: October 03, 2023, 03:46:17 PM
It is not simple to survive in a country when there is a recession. Even if we say you're wealthy, those folks will be concerned about the impact on their asset firms. To be honest, that is also a source of anxiety. Because a big sum of money, as well as profit, can be lost.

So, if I were the businessman, I would be concerned as well, but I wouldn't show it. Of certainly, I will find a solution to this type of situation. This is the time when everyone touched by the recession must truly endure.

Everyone is of course very worried if this condition occurs in the country they live in, but in my opinion life will continue as it should and we must be able to survive whatever the conditions are. I agree with you, we must be able to overcome it by looking for various solutions to overcome the recession the most important thing is that we must still be able to meet the needs of our families.
305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you manage greed to place your bet on: October 03, 2023, 03:16:45 PM
Just enjoy the gambling games you play and the winnings you get regardless of the amount, don't let a small win you miss and a big win you can't achieve which in the end you will only find a loss every time you play gambling

Being able to get back the capital in a gamble that I do is enough to make me grateful. Big wins are not my main goal in gambling although everyone wants that. I can laugh out loud when I do gambling with friends and can relieve stress in the gambling that I do that is my goal in gambling not pursuing profit and hoping that by doing gambling can change my life financially.
Maybe not everyone can do the same thing as you do. If we are greedy in gambling, of course we will miss out on small wins hoping for a big win and we won't achieve it because we can't enjoy gambling like you play. Choosing to gamble just to have fun with friends who have the same thoughts is a very enjoyable thing and if we lose it doesn't make us stressed, but in my opinion pursuing profits in gambling is something that is impossible to do because even if we win once of course we have experienced several defeats before.
306  Economy / Economics / Re: Small Scale Business Ideas on: October 03, 2023, 01:15:51 PM
On this board I often see a lot of discussions related to investment and finance which tend to be large scale. However, to start investing we need capital. How do you find capital for investment?

Let's talk about small scale businesses that have low risks and promising profits so that we can have capital to invest and become passive income in the future.

Do you have a small business idea? or business experience? I want to hear it


If you want to setup up a business from ideas shared in here as a small scal business, I won't advice you delve into such assumptions. Telling you this experienctially, that business opportunities even exist and you are aware of it is still not sufficient an armour for you to rely on.

I'll conclusively say, what you have passion in is directly what should be your business, and do well to expand your knowledge on it as the business also grows, as everything evolves over time.
We will not be able to build a business with other people's experiences and if we force ourselves to build a business with other people's ideas or experiences then the business we build will not last long and this is very detrimental in any case. I really agree with you, if we have the desire to build a business on a small or large scale then we have to really understand well about the business we are going to build and if the business is related to a hobby that we have I think the business will be able to develop well.
307  Economy / Economics / Re: What would you do in this situation? Invest or save? on: October 03, 2023, 12:53:55 PM
Personally, I would start my business in minor scale. There is a 25% difference between desired bankroll and currently real bankroll, but that must be manageable. Do your calculations again and try cutting expenses for now, so your plan fits the 15,000$ you have. Or, you can borrow money from someone to complete the 20,000$... That involves some risk, but since we talking about investing into an asset, which will generate profit for you along the time, it might worth. Just make sure to never borrow money to invest in liabilities.
In my opinion initially not buy all the necessary business related things to start the business but also buy all those which are must needed and keep other things aside for the time being. Because starting a business there will be a possibility of profit and later it will be possible to buy other things. But it is better to be able to manage the entire money to run the business fully. In this case you are saying that the problem can be solved by borrowing. If the money can be borrowed from someone then the business can be started with that money. The loan can be repaid later with the money saved from the business.
I think choosing not to use all the capital we have to buy business-related items is more because when we are just starting a business we still need money for unexpected things, but if we use all the capital we have to buy goods for business needs, then we will no longer have money if the business we build does not generate income. Choosing to borrow money for business purposes is certainly better, but we need to understand the risks of borrowing if we cannot pay it off.
308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 02, 2023, 03:51:54 PM
Yes, even so, Chelsea is still the favorite in this match because they have a strong squad. However, so far Chelsea's season has not shown a stable performance, and that could be an opportunity for Fulham,
Yes, although match predictions are always difficult and the results can be different from expectations. but for this match I think Chelsea can rise and become winners, even though they won't score many goals, Chelsea's chances of winning are very big even though they are playing at Fullham's home ground.
In fact, I don't think so, Fulham will play at home, of course they will have more motivation and Fulham will definitely play with confidence after knowing that the Chelsea team is currently in a very bad state, Fulham can take advantage of this to be able to win the match. This.
It is true that the betting market still favors Chelsea with smaller odds compared to Fulham, but I really don't believe in Chelea's revival anymore, I will bet on Fulham in this match and I am quite confident in my bet.
309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 02, 2023, 03:22:06 PM
Today Fiorentina is playing against the last place in the standings and I don't know why the odd was from 1.44 to 1.52 today at Stake but I immediately took profit of such odd as I highly doubt to see any surprise result during this game.The facts speaks a thousand words here,Cagliari beside being in last place they have only scored 2 goals in all these games clearly signaling that this team is having a lot of difficulties to score goals.

Fiorentina on the other side if they don't win at home against the last place on the standings then against who will they win?Based on this to me this looks like the safest bet of the day for a 50% return  Grin.
It looks like it will be an easy mtch for Florentina with their opponents who are really slumped at the bottom of the table.
They must be able to take advantage of this match to get 3 full points and present a victory for their supporters at the stadium that is their headquarters. It would be a shame if they couldn't win this match. Their difference is quite far now, both in terms of strength or from the game.
Fiorentina themselves need a win to maintain their position in the standings in order to stay in a good position.
There shouldn't be any difficulties for Fiorentina in this match, they will be playing at home and Cagliari is a team that has not won in Serie A this season, Claudio Ranieri's team has so far slumped badly in the 6 matches they have played in Serie A only achieved 2 draws and 4 wins.
The betting exchange opened a Hndicap -1 for Fiorentina with Odds @ 1.94. I think it is quite worth betting on with the possibility of Fiorentina winning quite big.
Because Fiorentina will be playing at home, there is a very big possibility that they will be able to win with a score of more than 1 goal, so I think this match is quite worth betting on.
310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 02, 2023, 02:48:25 PM
The game between Atletico Madrid and Cadiz will be the match I will add to my watch list tonight. Atletico Madrid beat Osasuna away after beating Real Madrid 3-1 in the Madrid derby.
The match ended with Atletico Madrid winning 3 - 2 over Cadiz.
Correa played very impressively today, he even scored 2 goals. Atletico caught up and finally surpassed it very well, especially since they were behind and Cadiz took the lead until the 27th minute. It looks like Cadiz has to learn more not to relax even though they are ahead. Even though I'm also sure they didn't relax, Atletico were able to catch up very well.

Finally, Real Madrid leads the standings again after winning against Girona. Girona played quite well, but Real Madrid was superior. Score 0-3 was the end of their match.
You know, I saw both games; my take? Atletico Madrid truly demonstrated why they are a top-tier team. They maintained hope despite their circumstances. I sincerely admire their fortitude. Cadiz got off to such a fantastic start, until Correa happened! Those two objectives? Top-notch! What can be said about Real Madrid, I guess? Real Madrid are they. They played Girona as if to say, "Alright, let's show 'em how it's done." The 0–3 score is self-explanatory. I was on the edge of my seat throughout both games
This is a matter of proof and quality, I was not surprised when Real Madrid won by 3 goals over Girona because they deserved it with the difference in quality between the two teams being quite striking, while Atletico Madrid did win and they also proved it. They are a top team in La Liga, but if you look at their overall performance, it can be seen that this team is not consistently showing good play so this will be quite risky in the course of a long season for unexpected things to happen.
Honestly, in the Atletico Madrid vs Cadiz match I lost not my bet because I chose to bet on Handicap -1.5 Atletci Madrid, I was very disappointed with their performance.
311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will there be a boom again? on: October 02, 2023, 02:27:05 PM
The market is difficult to predict and in my opinion a boom can happen at any time even though the market looks sluggish, the prediction that the market will rise at the end of the year because at the beginning of 2024 there will be a halving day certainly means we have to be patient and wait.
This is very possible to happen because this boom occurred because of issues raised by influential people and this has often happened for a long time and it continues to happen, it is a normal thing that will happen again.
While there are currently a lot of predictions regarding predictions and there are many different ones regarding the future price of Bitcoin, I think we each have confidence and optimism.
312  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you manage your finances and family if your income is low range? on: October 02, 2023, 02:02:15 PM
This is very important to be able to control so that our lives are sufficient even though our income is small.
the most important thing is not to be wasteful and be able to prioritize what is important to buy and what is not, and there are also some things that must be restrained so as not to overdo it and try to live at our own standards, perhaps the details are that we have to save money in buying basic necessities and Minimizing desires, but this does sound sad when we hold ourselves back, but if we get used to it, it is a good thing in life that needs to be taught to our future generations.
313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 01, 2023, 01:43:57 PM
Girona started the match very well, I think it was the feeling of being at home. There were two important positions in the first 3 minutes, one of them was very close. Then Real Madrid slowly started to make itself felt. Bellingham is the most successful transfer of this season and this is felt more and more in every match. What did I say about the pass he made with his foot for the assist in Real Madrid's first goal? It was a really nice pass.
Real Madrid did not leave today's win to the closing moment of the game and that's unlike them since they got Jude Bellingham. On a more serious note I believe that they had a good game and performed well. But I think ancelotti the real Madrid coach needs to throw his pride away and go into the market for a quality striker, this is the biggest position I think real Madrid is coming Short on
Real Madrid, it seems to me, really pulled together and didn't let the game come down to a close loss. Seeing as how they got Jude Bellingham, it's quite the sight. I think you're on the right track when you express concern about Ancelotti. Really, I do. Ancelotti should, in my opinion, swallow his pride and look around for a top-tier striker. I think Real Madrid is lacking a powerful striker to complete the puzzle. Although the win over Girona was a welcome diversion, I can't help but think it's hiding the holes in the wall. An effective striker might be the key to filling in those holes. That's my opinion on the matter
To be honest, I was surprised by Real Madrid's performance in the match against Girona, in the last few matches Real Madrid did not play well, especially in their front line, but surprisingly in this match Real Madrid changed drastically and their game was quite well organized in all areas.
Jude Bellingham is still as usual, he is very consistent with his good performance but in this match there was a slight difference in Real Madrid's front line when Vini played and it looks impressive for the performance of this team, especially Joselu who performed quite well.
However, there was a slight incident at the end of the match, Real Madrid Captain Nacho received a red card, this was quite unfortunate and quite detrimental for the team.
314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 01, 2023, 01:13:54 PM
To be honest, I didn't watch this big match, but if you look at the draw results between the two teams, it seems that both of them were equally strong and even had to share 1 point at the end of the match. Leipzig may have taken the lead with 2 goals in the 20th and 26th minutes, but they could only maintain this lead until the first half. Meanwhile, in the second half, Bayern Munich started to press which ultimately resulted in 2 goals from Harry Kane via the penalty spot and also from Leroy Sane.

Even though in the end the two drew 2-2 and there were still around 20 minutes left, not a single additional goal was scored by either team. This result is at least still good enough for Bayern Munich because they can still secure 1 point rather than nothing at all and maybe for Leipzig this is quite detrimental because they need full points, especially to stay in the top 4 competition.
In fact, I think the opposite, Leipzig was very lucky to be able to keep up with Bayern Munich's game in this match and I saw that the match between these two teams was really quite impressive, the first half was controlled by Leipzig and the second half was controlled by Bayern, this is a match between two teams that have strength. which is quite balanced and this result is very fair for both teams.
And at the start of this season it was slowly visible that several Bundesliga teams were starting to be able to compete with Bayern. I really hope that this can be consistent until the end of the season so that the competition for the Bundesliga title becomes even fiercer.
315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 01, 2023, 12:46:06 PM
Brighton are one of the teams i have been interested in and sympathetic to for the last two years and even when they lose, they fight hard to win but in this game they were very ineffective in the first half. It's not easy to make a habit of success and heavy defeats can be demoralizing. For me this was one of the most enjoyable games between the most entertaining teams in the league. Watkins played very well and Matty Cash was also very effective. If Brighton had been able to break through Aston Villa's tough defense, this game would have ended very differently.
However, it must be admitted that Aston Villa played very well and they deserved to win in this match, despite Brighton's poor performance, however, that had reasons and reasons, namely because Aston Villa were much better so the Brighton team could not develop their game.
This big defeat is quite unfortunate and I also hope that this result will not have any impact on Brighton's next match.

Ten Hag was supposed to make an evaluation. Man United competed against Crystal Palace 2 times with the result being 1 win and 1 loss. They played without Rashford and Bruno during the Carabao Cup, but somehow they were able to play freely and their rhythm looked good. Meanwhile, in the Premier League match, Bruno and Rashford were again the main choices in the first team, even though they dominated the match but their rhythm looked monotonous. In my eyes, Man United performed better without Bruno and Rashford.
Why do you only look at the Manchester United team in the last 2 matches between these two teams, in fact we have a different possibility as to why Manchester United could lose even though in the match a few days earlier against Crystal Palace they could also win, I think it's because the Crystal Palace team play with different strengths.
Ten Hag cannot be completely blamed because the Manchester United team's situation is very bad right now, Ten Hag doesn't have many choices because many Man United players are injured.
316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 01, 2023, 12:23:12 PM
This weekend, Atalanta's fierce match against Juventus will be quite interesting to look forward to because both teams are currently in their best performance and this match will test the consistency of both teams to get full points.
After I looked at the betting market, I think the bookie issued fairly balanced odds for this match, which means that both teams have the same chance of winning the match.
However, for betting options, in this match I am interested in choosing goals over 2.5 with Odds @ 2.08, I think it is quite tempting and the possibility of several goals occurring in this match is very large.
317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin October Month Performance on: October 01, 2023, 12:05:39 PM
Bitcoin price movements like that will only benefit day traders who like to take quick profits, but I would not immediately assume that market conditions are improving because this kind of increase has occurred several times in the last month so it could happen again this month again. Although hopefully I also really want to see a much better increase in Bitcoin prices this month in Bitcoin so that new investors can have the intention to return to the market and buy Bitcoin for their own investment before a bigger increase occurs again in Bitcoin.
For October I think this is quite possible and I am quite optimistic seeing the market price movements that have occurred since September which continue to increase slowly and this is possible to continue until October, and also if we look at what happened in the past There is also a lot of news and positive possibilities that will happen.
However, the movement that will occur is likely to be nothing significant, I am aware of that.
318  Economy / Economics / Re: If They Can Pay off their Debts, Why Don't They? on: October 01, 2023, 11:45:59 AM
I agree with you, plus it is best to know that good debt management can help a country's capacity to invest in their economic future for the sake of education, infrastructure, health care, agriculture, and even for the people. The limited revenue countries have sometimes cannot be enough for their proposed projects that are made for the betterment of the country, hence their government chooses to borrow money from other countries.
The government's decision to lend money from other countries is quite a wise decision if a country is in dire need of their economic conditions along with other conditions as you mentioned. Some of the things you have mentioned are the most important parts that must be developed by the government in every country because the economy, education, infrastructure, health and others are all things that are really needed by citizens. So it wouldn't be wrong for the government to lend money to other countries to make things develop with payment methods that don't burden the loan taker.
It is not the country that gives loans to others but banks. These are good debts and for good reason. As we can see, developing countries are committing huge debts because that serves as their capital for economic development and projects which they believe that the return is enough to pay off the debts and make another one. No country has no debt and this is probably because the demand is quite high and there is no enough capital to cover them all urges them to do that in order to achieve their plan. Like in running a business, sometimes we need to borrow money for the sake that we can provide what we have to do to grow our business.
It's as if the state did it on purpose because that's how a country can continue to develop and even debts and receivables must be done by a country to continue cooperation so it cannot be denied that these debts and receivables are part of the needs or cooperation that is being established. by that country.
However, this does not mean that some countries cannot pay their debts, so they continue to take on debts to cover their debts or only pay the interest on their debts.
319  Economy / Economics / Re: Early Retirement [Pros and Cons] on: October 01, 2023, 11:22:00 AM
Early retirement must be based on strong reasons. Those who decide to retire early have various reasons, some are getting bored with the rules at work, there are those who want to manage their own business and there are also those who are lazy about doing the same activities every day. For those who want to manage their own business or want to form a new life to be more independent, early retirement is a good decision.
Many people retire early but don't have a clear reason why they made that decision, ultimately their lives become chaotic due to not having a regular source of income every month.

That’s why early retirement should be planned ahead. If you plan well, early retirement can give you the chance to explore new passions and interests, which might not have been possible if you were still employed. With sufficient money to sustain your lifestyle, you can overcome the challenges that you may encounter and explore new opportunities.
It's not an easy thing, everyone really wants to retire because of course almost everyone doesn't want to be tied down to work and wants to be free to do whatever they like, but again, if everything is constrained by money, even though they have prepared for early retirement, not many people have the courage. take this decision if there is no strong guarantee that your finances after retirement will remain secure or stable.
320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 28, 2023, 03:24:06 PM
For sure Bayern Munich will prevail in winning this one, It is because Bayern Munich now has Harry Kane who now has a distinct idea of how Bayern Munich is playing, rather Harry Kane didn't have an idea at all, back in the 1st clash of Bayern Munich and Leipzig that is on the DFL-Supercup it was a 0 out of 3 goals for Leipzig and all 3 goals were from Dani Olmo alone, that is not really that Consistent but for sure he can handle this kind of game against Bayern Munich,
The defeat that befell Bayern Munich in the DFL-Supercup last August could indeed be used as an indication that RB Leipzig might make it difficult for Bayern Munich to win at the Red Bull Arena Leipzig. But after seeing the Bayern Munich squad which this season has improved so much with the performances of its players in several matches, I am starting to have confidence in Bayern Munich in this upcoming match even though RB Leipzig is also not worse at the start of this season in the Bundesliga

At least, although I also believe that Bayern Munich has a chance to win but still, it will not be easy to beat Leipzig at the Red Bull Arena. So yes, it will be very likely that this match will have many goals too, because they both have good attack lines but are weak in defense. But yes, if for example Bayern Munich fails to win in this match, then of course it will be certain that Bayer Leverkusen will take over the top position in the standings. With such reasons and considerations, it is appropriate for Bayern Munich to successfully win in the away match against Leipzig later.
Both teams are currently in pretty good form but Leipzig is not an opponent that can be underestimated, especially since they will be playing at home, of course this will be quite a fierce match and in fact, in my opinion, no one is a favorite because both have the same possibility of winning. win this match.
So there is nothing certain here, Bayern will have difficulties and I hope Bayern can be held back by Leipzig so that competition in the Bundesliga becomes fiercer in the fight for the title.
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