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3001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [ KICKICO ] OFFICIAL BOUNTY CAMPAIGN THREAD on: September 07, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
I have registered on kickico website and submit my profile on application form. I would love to participate in artwork campaign. I hope i can contribute even just a little. Gladly to see how this project grow up.

Thanks kickico.

Telegram Campaign:
Nickname: Onika84
Join date: 9/7/2017


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3002  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][CND] Cindicator - Intelijen Hybrid untuk Pasar Keuangan- 12 September on: September 07, 2017, 03:00:07 PM
Semalam ane juga sudah baca-baca thread ANN dan berminat mengikuti kampanye sosial medianya, ternyata sudah tutup pendaftarannya ya gan? Akhirnya ikutan yang cindicator challenge saja, menarik aplikasinya dan juga sekalian ikutan bounty. Makin kesini makin unik saja sekarang program bountynya, ada yang bikin meme, jadi lebih banyak variasinya ya gan.

Selamat nih yang ikutan bounty dari cindicator, semoga mantap hasilnya gan.
3003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in ICO, still promising? on: September 07, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
I really like all following topics related to ICO. Although currently, the ICO has got resistance from some countries, but the enthusiasm for investing in several projects still attracts everyone.
I would like to hear if some bitcointalk member have their own opinion on this subject.
3004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cash worth more after China ban on: September 07, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
I think if bitcoin can reach $6,000 - $7,000 in 5 -6 months then bitcoin cash will follow his step, and this is just my opinion, bitcoin cash still worth for investing as as long as we believe bitcoin prices will keep going up.
I can't predict for 6 months later, but bitcoin cash will reach ATH at $1,500 on february or june 2018.
3005  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana memulai trading dengan jumlah modal yang sangat kecil on: September 07, 2017, 11:48:53 AM
Kalau sudah punya modal btc dari hasil bounty atau pas dulu beli di harga 35 -40 jt sepertinya beli koin kayak NEM atau XRP bisa gan. Tapi kalau saya sekarang lebih seneng alt/idr, apalagi di VIP kan sudah ada eth, bch sm etc yang bisa dibeli langsung dengan rupiah. Tapi kalau mau banyak pilihan koinnya di poloniex atau bitrex lebih pas, soale juga koin biasanya muter di pump sama dumpnya.
3006  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: So when DeepOnion started for public it was $4, every investor lost 75%. on: September 07, 2017, 11:04:52 AM
Deeponion is not good for trading, just hodl and thank me later. It's a long term coin worth keeping for good return in later years

I will follow your advices Sir. I am not sure about this coin, I just collected from social media campaign. Maybe not much, but for me, I have good feeling about this coin, maybe X2 - X4 from last price is logic at this time.
3007  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] CINDICATOR - OFFICIAL BOUNTY THREAD [Token Sale - September 12, 2017] on: September 07, 2017, 03:19:38 AM
I have downloaded Cindicator app on PlayStore, Its really fun and get reward for our participation if we can predict something. I join Cindicator challenge because Social media bounty have been closed for new participants, its bad news.  Sad Thanks! dev and cindicator team.
3008  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀📈[ANN-Presale-ICO] ATLANT Platform Blockchain Real Estate Dunia on: September 07, 2017, 03:05:22 AM
Kayaknya sih bakal panen besar nih kita yang ikut bounty Grin
Soalnya baru beberapa menit dimulai aja udah keliatan banget antusiasme para partisipan Grin
https://etherscan.io/address/0xf46ede17c0bab20d87cd079a2632f71433a407b9
Amin gan .. masa iya ini dalam satu hari langsung kelar ane liat balancenya aja udah dapet 2000 Eth
Mantab nian ini  Cheesy
Semoga aja gan atlan hanya membutuhkan satu hari untuk ico nya selesai jadi biar bisa cepet2 cair untuk para bounty nya  Grin

Kalau sudah memenuhi target apakah program bounty juga selesai gan? Soale ane barusan ikutan.  Grin Ane kira selesai bounty tanggal 31 Oktober nanti ini. Kan lumayan tu kalau agak panjang katanya.

wow mantap baru di mulai beberapa menit udah dapet 1,387.492001909557263629 ETH ya gan,mantap bener atlant  Cheesy Cheesy

Semoga saja Atlant ini bisa sukses gan ICOnya, dan semua yang berpatisipasi mendapat hasil yang memuaskan.
3009  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best alt coin to invest in? 1k-2k USD. on: September 06, 2017, 02:53:16 PM
NXT: I hope this coin will recover after IGINIS campaign over. BTS; I don't have technically reason related this coin, but we all see how BTS climb so high 2 months ago.
Maybe NEM, really stable price when panic selling season moment before Auguts, 1 and also still stronger when regulate ICO's in some country.
3010  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] DeepOnion Terintegrasi dengan TOR 🚀 Tanpa ICO/Crowdfund 🚀 Airdrop Gratis on: September 06, 2017, 10:51:17 AM
numpang tanya dong gan
kan ini udah ada exchange nya
terus kalo ane daftar buat airdrop pake addresa yang di exchange boleh gak sih gan ?
makasih gan
setau saya gk bisa gan soalnya kedetec nantinya pakek wallet excanger dan pasti gk di terima ,saya rasa wajib download walletnya gan
dan nanti harus benerin split di walletnya jga jdi klo pakek excanger susah nantinya benerin

Seru juga baca beberapa pendapat soal deeponion ini. Saya baru 2 hari gabung yang twitter campaign saja gan, kalau baca di thread twitter campaign sepertinya boleh pakai wallet exchange yang di supernova itu. Tapi enggak tahu juga aslinya boleh atau tidak.
3011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MEDX] The First Decentralized Healthcare Network on: September 06, 2017, 06:34:27 AM
I am always interested to contribute in healthcare link with crypto world, even there is so many projects based on healthcare and crypto, but the idea will make great thing happen for tomorrow.
I hope MedX will realease for bounty program as soon as.
3012  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you decide when it's time to sell? on: September 06, 2017, 06:06:25 AM
Its depends on your strategy and everyone has their own strategy and has their own principles, for me I just make a order if I have 10% of profit,, although the price of Coins will be even higher I will not think much about it because my target is just 10% of profit

I agree with your opinion. Indeed everyone has thoughts and strategies when trading, but I just take 10% profit of the capital that I spend. This way makes me be in secure position when the market is unstable. But sometimes psychological more prominent than logic when trading.
3013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Need to buy btc with cash on: September 06, 2017, 05:30:24 AM
Usually I use PayPal and then buy btc on this forum or another. Or if you have gift card has not been redeem yet, an amazon gift card maybe the best option for this.
Or you can buy on localbitcoin, and paxful. And buy some bitcoin from trusted seller or have a lot transactions.
3014  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: harga coin hancur hari ini,apa yang kamu lakukan? on: September 05, 2017, 05:04:55 PM
cuman bisa nonton aja gan , bitcoin yang dapat dari faucet malah nyangkut di rate 60

Kalau bitcoin proses baliknya cepet sepertinya gan di banding dengan beberapa altcoin, Kalau bitcoin beli di range 55 - 60 masih bisa dikatakan aman, maksudnya ane proses drop bitcoin bukan masa-masa sekarang sepertinya. Tunggu 2 -3 hari semoga pasar positif lagi gan.
3015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀[BOUNTY][ICO]ATLANT REAL ESTATE PLATFORM[OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN]🚀🌟🌟 on: September 05, 2017, 04:28:09 PM
Encourage everyone to again have a look at all real estate blockchain projects...

Real Estate ICO Comparison Chart

Detailed Analysis of Business Models



Business Model
1. Homeowner borrows cash against property
2. Local vendor provides appraisal (Centralized)
3. Local custodian holds property (Centralized)
4. Homeowner auctions tokens representing property on LAT platform (Centralized)
5. Homeowner can repurchase property from current token owner at newly appraised price (Centralized, potential conflict of interest)
Potential issues
1 No clear reason for using tokenization or blockchain in the business model
2 Unclear certification or legal framework for custodians
3 Insurance and verification for artworks, other assets is not not explicit
4 Potential conflict of interest in appraisal during asset repurchasing
5 In case of default, subsequent management/sale of fractional collateral unclear
6 Unsubstantiated claims that AAPL shares can be currently traded on a nonoperational system


Business Model
1. On own platform Brickblock creates a token for listed ETF, REF, CTF, CMFs
2. Assets are stored in a “digital trust fund”
3. Tokens of each asset on can be traded on the platform
Potential issues
1. “Digital trust fund” custodian is centralized, unclear what happens in the event of default or misappropriation of assets
2. ETFs have a market size of $4 trillion, and substantially higher liquidity than $100 billion cryptocurrency assets. Such instruments would therefore actually reduce liquidity
3. Business model is that of a middleman between a broker and user, and the basis for the claimed cost savings is unclear. Also, the “digital trust fund” will likely have further costs
4. Presale raised funds in non ERC-20 tokens such as ETH, without proper KYC or personal cabinet it is unclear how buyers will be able to receive their Brickblock tokens.
5. Major brokerages Fidelity, Robinhood, etc. currently allow for free trading of ETFs
6. Webpage claims that the product is built on Lisk, Waves, NXT, Hyperledger, Ethereum — these platforms are incompatible, indicating that these claims may be problematic.


Business Model
1. Real tokens will be sold for ETH, subsequent funds will be used to buy real estate
2. Real estate will be sold “when it goes higher” based on unknown “threshold equation” and converted to Real tokens
3. Back to step 1
Potential issues
1. Real seems to be a Ponzi scheme given that there are a finite amount of tokens which are to be used to purchase an ever increasing pool of real estate
2. Unclear legal connection between the Real token and the underlying property
3. Claim that Real tokens are deflationary is unsubstantiated and therefore problematic
4. Real claims “will also ensure that our company will be successful, self sustainable and generate profits from year one in order to have stability as we grow”. This claim is not only unsubstantiated, but appears to possibly contradict multiple securities regulations connected with offerings
5. Unclear why property owners would accept Real as payment and how and at what exchange rate they would receive fiat currency in exchange.
6. Real collects a 10% nonnegotiable fee from all tokenization and income of each property, and targets 12–20% annual returns — 30% is inconsistent with any country’s cap rate
7. No team members have real estate experience, and they also claim a “value approach” that is inconsistent with the angel investing backgrounds of the founders
8. Real estate timing formula on pg. 19 of the Real white paper sells properties after unclear gain, and attempts to time uncertain markets
9. Diagram showing real estate outperforming S&P since 2000 would be completely reversed on a slightly different time frame
10. Claims that system is global, yet property contracts don’t seem to differentiate property register IDs in different jurisdictions, making this claim potentially problematic


Business Model
1. Users who are brokers, landlords or sellers or their verified representatives may list properties on the Rex MLS system
2. Verified users are paid for their listings, while unverified ones pay to list
3. System of sponsorships, and ads charge users additional Rex
Potential issues
1. Most MLS providers are not global or even national because they are able to charge fees for every location, which contradicts the proposed Rex business model
2. “Pool B consisting of 20% of Rex token supply, allocated to listing rewards” — it is unclear how this will be paid out if system runs out of tokens
3. Team seems to lack technical expertise. Only the founder is said to have “technical background”, but the bio offers only sparse details.
4. No clear advantages of storing the MLS database on the blockchain are demonstrated in the white paper
5. Unclear how such a small upstart without any initial data, would be able to displace large behemoths in the space who continue to charge for their data, by offering the data for free


Business Model
1. System lists assets which are transferrable via digitally signed agreements
Potential issues
1. There is no clear link between an asset and tokens or contracts signed, also not clear how said contract will work internationally
2. The proposed business model of benefits to token holders from the “prediction market” and the “exchange” of fiat currency into crypto is unclear.


Business Model
1. Landlords place listings on the website/ios/android
2. Tenants place bids for listings and are able to pay with bank cards, fiat or REST tokens (Relest’s token)
Potential issues
1. Whitepaper contains plethora of grammatical mistakes and inconsistencies making it difficult to read and understand.
2. It is unclear what tokenholders will receive
3. It is unclear why this project needs a blockchain
4. Business model as we understand it from the whitepaper and website does not appear to be compelling, and does not offer clear value to any of its users
5. The platform’s main stated benefit is the ability to pay with REST tokens, it is unclear how this is a benefit
6. System claims to send out SMS confirmation — unclear who would pay for it and how this would work without centralization.
7. Landlord has to specify times for auction periods — if they list each day on auction, and tenant wants to stay for 3 days would they have to win each auction? If so, what if they don’t win the second day?
8. System attempts to monetize features such as chat, calendar, and highlights, all features available for free in competing services


Business Model
1. “Initially the Propy Registry will mirror official land registry records in which transfers of real estate are recorded.”
2. “Propy’s vision is that jurisdictions will adopt the Propy Registry as their official ledger of record such that the transfer of a property”
Potential issues
1. In its current iteration, Propy is a blockchainless fiat solution, per the white paper. Propy is mirroring official property transfer mechanisms, and requiring extra work from the users to comply with their platform. Putting this functionality on Blockchain simply mirrors work that is done in traditional registers and by physical notaries, lawyers, etc.
2. System intends to reward participants and governments with its tokens and reserves 35% of PROs for this, and it appears that this approach may constitute direct payments to governments and/or officials which may not be legal in various jurisdictions. What happens when they run out of PROs allocated to this?
3. Business model would work if governments accept and implement Propy blockchain as their official blockchain — this goal is likely impossible, and even if achievable non-authoritarian governments will allow more than one company to work with its blockchain to perform transfer of ownership
4. No GitHub account as of August 28, 2017, yet on June 29. 2017 on BBitcointalk, Propy claimed its GitHub repo would be published in a week. Also, Propy’s appstore app does not seem to be either decentralized or based on smart contracts
5. The founder’s video on YouTube shows that she does not seem to understand whether Bitcoin or Ethereum networks have smart contracts
6. Substantial amount of tokens not available on the market creates an overhang
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From the table and description of some of the projects above, I had a good hunch that Atlant will run perfectly. As I felt the enthusiasm of some members in the telegram group. Good project and great team behind this ICO.
3016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Latest news - BANNING from Russia, Korea AND China on: September 05, 2017, 06:40:11 AM
This situation really makes me worry. So many rules that Government made with regard to the ICO project. Surely this gives a positive effect to see some ICO which is really honest and also has a strong foundation. But in other side, panic selling time.
3017  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: China Banned ICO ! Panic Mode ON ! on: September 05, 2017, 04:52:57 AM
Bukan hanya cina saja yang membanned ICO, tapi korea juga membanned ICO setelah cina mulai membanned. Harga nya berdarah semua ini, cuman USDT/Tether yang harganya normal/stabil.



Korea juga ikut membanned ICO? Bisa beberapa hari ini liat warna merah terus. Gawat, tak kirain baru US sm China yang mulai memberlakukan hal ini saja. Liat market anjlok gini cuma bisa buka laptop trus log out lagi di VIP  Grin

Kira-kira bisa sampai berapa hari ini ya gan efeknya? Semoga saja enggak sampai mingguan atau beberapa minggu lah.
3018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO 13 SEP] AMBROSUS: Trusted Quality of Food & Medicine [BOUNTY] on: September 04, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
I have send a message to bounty manager via email, and they reply my message immediately. I have visit Ambrosus website, this project build and run with great team. I hope this project works hard to improve to better serve its customers. Thanks!
3019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Bowhead Health Bounty Campaign on: September 04, 2017, 04:49:59 PM

Thanks a lot for your project Bowhead Health, and please update on first page if this bounty program has over. I hope this project help make great things happen.
3020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The END of ICO's? on: September 04, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
I don't think so, this isn't so much about whales, it's about the news coming out of China. China is going to have all ICO's "investigated by local regulatory authorities," so they can control the ICO market- I read something like about it. Don't panic, keep clam.

Thank you for your nice statement, and this is really makes me more comfortable when I heard some bad news about ICO and government regulations. Although this also created panic selling, and caused chaos in the market. Hopefully this moment will be over as soon as.
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