Learn something like website design, programming or anything else related to the internet so you can offer such services.
There's never a easy way to make money / btc, if you want to make a lot of btc you need to put in a lot of work.
It's what I do and it works perfectly... Ok few people find my design horrible but I can not please to every one. |
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What are your bad experiences in bitcoin? Not just scammed by other users it could also include HYIP, Cloud mining scams, investment scams, etc. I know it's a bad thing that happened, I think it's better to share them here so you could vent out on what you are feeling.
Feel free to post anything.
I would be interesting to know how many people have been scammed by winspiral... relative to the red trusts he should have scammed many people... Or not? (lol) So far i see none scammed by him here... |
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Well, that forum didn't last long.  thanks for your welcome...it helped...(lol) |
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a full time job you will always have steady income till you work there so dont go looking at bitcoin for steady income cause that is probably the most unsteady income you could hope for.
Still bitcoin is very profitable but not what your looking for if you want x paycheck amount every month.
Yes full time job plus over time will always be a good way to have income per month and if work hard then you can achieve your goal someday bitcoin is just a sideline where sometimes you get not enough money to supoort your love ones . I have a different situation from you, right now bitcoin is my side job because I am currently employed in a reputable company, however I am not quite satisfied with my salary and I am lucky I am beginning my journey in bitcoin and hope that I will be going full time in bitcoin and completely leave my job. Nice i don't have job either and im just a simple student who are focusing on bitcoins weekends and i can really help my self with bitcoins i can really support my needs and i am satisfied what im going to get in this signature campaign per week hope that soon it will be more by trading. Yeah you should save your earnings from bitcoins and meanwhile invest your time in learning trading and once you feel that you are ready for it you can invest your savings from signature campaign in it. I saved my earning to be honest but i don't investment them in investment website i could lose my money there and trading is more apprecable for me and easy thing to do while saving money and also signature campaign i can get enough payment to start trading and grow that from exchange website, You are right except about my U2 system where you can only earn. U2 system is a system where it is impossible to lose... Some people here have tried to lose...but they have not. It is why they are not happy. They are very angry because they have no proof to say that winspiral does not tell the truth. |
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Even become an escrow on this forum or other bitcoin website is quite difficult because you needs lots of time to build trust. Most escrow started to build trust by offering their services for free and usually only escrow small transaction in early days. Third party website escrow really isn't that reliable. Personally I prefer using escrow here in forum. And if I were to choose, I'd want to get a middle man with all identity known and with some kind of money at stake as assurance that he will not do anything wrong when he gets involved in the trade.
I try to be an escrow...it's impossible for me here...(lol) Your website looks shady, so who would believe you  My website's earners of course. And many earners are...because it is impossible to lose. |
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Is there anybody here got a payment from op? Already 3 hours have past but i cant see anybody recieves payment from op.
Somethings wrong with this task . I will do create accounts after op pays someone to finish the task.
I do not see the interest of fake accounts... Why not better try to make with this PTC a serious PTC? I do not say this because i'm advertiser of this PTC (lol) |
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Third party website escrow really isn't that reliable. Personally I prefer using escrow here in forum. And if I were to choose, I'd want to get a middle man with all identity known and with some kind of money at stake as assurance that he will not do anything wrong when he gets involved in the trade.
I try to be an escrow...it's impossible for me here...(lol) |
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people still selling too cheap (lol) then you can buying to cheap it is never too cheap or to expensive... it's just the market price. |
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I have requested a payout...I hope the faucethub system works Not that I do not trust faucetgame owner,but at the start bugs are possible. It works. You can see payouts of all faucets here: https://faucethub.io/faucets/BTCSorry...I meant a withdrawal... I will see if it works in 24 hours or so... |
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I have requested a payout...I hope the faucethub system works Not that I do not trust faucetgame owner,but at the start bugs are possible. |
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Want to learn about daily potential profit? http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/profit_daily_161010.phpSome people have asked me to increase the minimum payout. I have already set the 20% I can not individualize for each user. I try to procceed withdrawals when reached the payout rules. I recall that with the rules you can ask an earlier payout if you get 10000 satoshi pendingpayout balance. |
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I have red trust because my design is horrible and my English is poor...
So now you admit that the designer of your site is horrible? What corrective measures will you to take? And your English is not worse than mine, so I feel that you wanted to send a joke When I say you have no need to pay in you have not to pay in...you get free shares and then you can trade with or withdraw.
if i say you can only earn and impossible to lose it is so because if you can not pay in from your poket and only withdraw.
Is this the point at which I ask myself what you profit by doing this? explain me how you can lose.
When people gave you a red trust. Your site offered the possibility of investing with cash from the investors' pocket and when you were asked about where does the money come from to pay the investors. You could not answer, so everyone understood that you were running ponzi scheme. If JeffBrad12 sees scam in my U2 system it is because he talks about what he do not know...
Why do not you explain in detail how your site works? i do not admit that my design is horrible,I just say that I have been red trusted as well because my design is taken for horrible. I have ever said that profit comes from advertising on my sites and referrals and from my U2 miner... Unfortunately the U2 antminer was not profitable it is why i have stoped to use it. Now all "poket investors" have been paid out with profit. there is no more to say to understand from where i have the profit. About how the site works...i can not explain "all" in detail in a post over 50 pages...(yes the site has over 50 pages... But I have allways answered at specific question... i have not to made a "site bis" here Is this the point at which I ask myself what you profit by doing this?
My profit is the fun to offer you back the profit my sites do... Some people have fun to do crosswords puzzle... My fun for already over 20 years is to programme sites and to pay back people who helped me to get income. Because my sites makes little profit... Write winspiral in search engines...and you will see about what I talk |
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Nowadays 10 satoshi or so by my U2 system with the satoshi you claimed for free...
Why spend BTC from your poket if you can spend satoshi earned for free?
Once you have earned by winspiral you can try spending BTC...
but first earn and learn by winspiral to perfect your trading skills...
what is your winspiral and is it a trading platform. why do you have so much red trust. To be a trader you need to have a good capital if not whats the use of trading if you dont have enough money to exchange . You was speaking with the harsh person, he has had a lot of the red trust caused by advertising his scam cloud mining site/ ponzi. Your opinions will useless for him, and believe me. he didn't need a money for trade but grab more money from his platform(scam).  I have red trust because my design is horrible and my English is poor... Once you have red trust...people here speak about and pulp it up...without going to see from themselves. When I say you have no need to pay in you have not to pay in...you get free shares and then you can trade with or withdraw. if i say you can only earn and impossible to lose it is so because if you can not pay in from your poket and only withdran explain me how you can lose. If I say that members share daily over 20000 satoshi profit I say it not because i promise it but because it is so. If JeffBrad12 sees scam in my U2 system it is because he talks about what he do not know... Have you heard about scam from an menber among the 300 members? No...me not yet. My members like or not...but never have said it is scam. |
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The list of people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...
But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)
You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.
So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme. So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics? Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people. If you analyse my U2 system...you can see that I'm right..."impossible to lose" Try to lose and discover from yourself that it is impossible. I suppose you are honest because I do not have proof you are dishonest... Please do not accuse me without proof... Again I say, I won't waste my time checking your u2 system and everything about that winspiral investment scam. And there is no such word that an investment is impossible to lose, even big companies have their ups and down, but with yours? Very funny. I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it. ""I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it."" you are right: Those people have argument with"horrible design and poor English" Nice proves...(lol) The specificity of my system is that it is different with big companies because the profit is zero or more...never in negative. Sorry if you can not understand this... What i promise is hold: Nowadays I say profit is minimum (in average) 20000 satoshi because it is so...it is not a promise. Average daily profit since the start is 30000 satoshi or so... Is paying people scam? (lol) If I say it is impossible to lose it is because it is impossible to lose. |
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Tu as mis 2 fois le meme lien pour l espagne et la chine  une expression alsacienne: zwei mol geneit hebt besser... ""cousu deux fois tient mieux"" c'est un peu comme ici deux fois le même lien est mieux vu...(lol) |
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Actually you can learn trading by your self. When you start your tarding you will get many experience and found your own strategy for trading and some trick about how doing trading to get many profit. I am do that too. I ever lose in trading indeed but from my mistake i can reduce even avoid the same mistake happen again.
In fact, with the use of the internet, learning can occur more independently. In the case of altcoins, it is more a matter of monitoring the development of the projects, this can be done by following the events, here on bitcointalk and also in the main communication channels of each project. Yes, you are absolutely right, we can learn to trade independently. We can search on google or get into this forum, there is a lot of information in this forum about the trade from people who have an understanding of the trade, often read in this forum. But if there are friends or people nearby who are already experts in trade maybe you could ask taught by them, it would be better if the learning directly with people who are experts in trade. yes you are right,si lany ways for learning. But trading is trading no matter what you trade. Ald even if you know how trading is...you need "brain" because it is not writen what the "market" will do. I see it on my U2 system. Members start with same "richness" and little by little each member trade differently and the earning changes. Trade strategies have continuously to change because situation continuously change. Learn risk free trading on my U2 system where you can only earn. You can only earn because you get shares for free... then you trade and you can use only a part of your earning...this means that you can only lose a part of your earning... so at the end only earning. many people do do understand my u2 system. often because they do nit want understand... But if they want and do not understand..;then it is better stay away from trading in general. |
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The best way is trade. If the difference to make money, be sure to buy at the price of bitcoin, and bitcoin only safety for several years to bring huge profits, as all are aware of how the exchange rate is expected in the future.
There is not any safe way to grow bitcoin right now. Each investment involve risk which may cause to you many disadvantages. I think the least bad method is to mine Bit[Suspicious link removed]ut and buy some hardware or antminer and start working with number and statements.
Probably the best way to get a decent profit from their bitcoin, it's an investment. And here I fully agree that the risk can be anywhere in other ways, but the danger is less investment. You can stay at their coins or get more. But do not get lost. too, it is not so and just cope with investments. A lot of companies on the Internet offering which attracted funds including bitcoin, but this is not always a good solution. There are also a scam. I see you do not know my U2 system. It's paying now for over 1 year and all is now absolutly for free. You get free shares and you can sell them for real satoshi. You can show yourself you trade skills... And the specificity of this programme is that you can not lose. It is tempting, and all because it is too warm words that you can not lose. I think the risk is always there. Just you can protect yourself if you know where there are pitfalls. Of course you can not lose because the sytem is risk free. You can not lose you key if you do not have a key. Here it is the same: You can not lose what you do not have. You are more or less owner of the system so you can only earn more or less. You have of course few possibilities earning nothing (but never lose) People who do not participe earn nothing ...logic. If people participe not enough it is possible that they do not reach the minimum payout...logic... You have enough information to see that nowadays 20000 satoshi aredaily shared by the members. Where are warm words? Most people involved in this project, because it considers it an interesting concept, but they did not earn it. what do you mean about "but they did not earn it."? |
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Im using bitcoin for 6months my worst thing in bitcoin is to invest in hyip because i just really want to earn fast not knowing that hyip is very risk. I have no experience in cloud mining so im trying to know more about mining so i cant start investing.
I also invested in HYIP and was scammed. All I would like to tell you is that most of the cloud mining websites are there for ripping you off and you can't earn anything from them. Because you have not yet tried the only cloudmining site without miner...paying now for over 1 year... All is for free and you can only earn... (most of cloudlining sites are without miner...but do not pay) ok...too good to be true...but it is true...(lol) |
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What?? Well I think that after a few times being scammed you must have gained some experiences. And don't you tired of being scammed all day like that? Don't you want to earn something? (lol) See my red trusts...if people see scams and ponzi shemes in my systems it is normal that people do not see when sites are ponzi shemes. |
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The list of people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...
But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)
You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.
So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme. So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics? Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people. If you analyse my U2 system...you can see that I'm right..."impossible to lose" Try to lose and discover from yourself that it is impossible. I suppose you are honest because I do not have proof you are dishonest... Please do not accuse me without proof... |
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