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I will agree with changing parameters of Quark immediately after Bitcoin or Litecoin change their parameters.
Before that moment I agree only with ideas up to 0.5% annual interest on the initial assumed amount of Quark. (not exponential growth)
By your opinions, what will be the minimum of the second bottom of the double bottom for Quark? Quark looks very stable below 2000 sat now.
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Sundays chat: http://pastebin.com/jviD91wLTwo big investors from Sundays meeting are dumping whole the time and they are not satisfied with current dev. One of them said: [21:35:15] <@QuarkieFM> dumping 1 million coins coming weeks [21:37:28] <@QuarkieFM> I had hope in Quark from the start, and I am saddened to see it's demise. In my point of view, everyone still left in the team should sell, cut their losses, keep their friends, and take their talents elsewhere." After the fall of about 95% he advices to "everyone still left in the team should sell, cut their losses, keep their friends, and take their talents elsewhere." For your good, be careful with reading or listening such advices. No difference with an usual trollbox at all. At the end decision is yours what to listen. |
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Because this coin is searching for the minimum of the second bottom of the double bottom.
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Markets decided this is totally wrong. 1700 sat.
It was very predictable for me. Not dependant on me. Only predictable.
Continue lowering the price. First coin with new innovative features (BTC, LTC, PPC, and some others maybe) fallen 20x. Congratulations on brainstorming!
Question is: where is the second bottom?
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Let's test it!  |
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the thread died now we are not discussing anything related to the superblock and companion coin?
The number 1 issue is we have no developer. I think that needs to sink in with the community. There is no active developer. I don't think people grasp the full implications of a coin with no captain. I am invested in many coins and all that have had no clear leadership just die. QRK will be no different.
Qrk has no way of attracting any development team, any marketing team or any project management teams without funds.
The small teams we have doing things for qrk will have zero chance against fully motivated and funded teams other coins have.
The game looks interesting of course i will buy some shares.
A full gaming arcarde with credits bought in qrk and winnings paid out in qrk with a small 2-5% running costs charge for ROI investors would be a good start. However now qrk is not worth much it would take a huge number of qrks to finance this.
I tried to make update to version 0.9.2.1. Unsuccessfully. Task is not easy at all. Devs are much better and have much patience than me check this https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark092 It seems they changed text only. I made the same work before 1 week too.  I needed bitcoinunits.cpp Number 210 000 000 instead of 21 000 000 I have to change my work with that number and compile now There are much more work for fully compatibility with 0.9.2.1 |
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lol at the tard mod that deleted my "quark is awesome" - pic - of course rampant scams and pyramid schemes are fine and of course on "Bitcointalk" is becoming well know as scam central..... but don't post a pic ha ha
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love you guys
*cough* Mods dont hunt down scammers, but you are aware of that, this isn't your first day here. You have the trust system which is in the hands of the members if you feel like hunting scammers, you can go ahead. Spamming however is in the job description, and it will be removed You deleted my picture as well, why? Because of quality of the community causes pressure to sell.  Some people works hard to make new wallet, and I think they don't like such art. |
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I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS. Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).
I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.
Wrong politics!
I will not support any of upper activities.
I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!
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For devs of new wallet version 0.9.2 (new very early stage of development wallet) only:But - I have 1000x less QRKs than before. Only a few Probably same with transactions. Syncing with network probably work. I refuse to test other sensitive options After returning to current version of wallet, 0.8.23, or my 0.8.24, it seems blockchain is corrupted Do not use this new early stage wallet 0.9.2, just for experiments, except if you have to like I had to Do backup! I see devs work on new wallet based on gui from bitcoin v0.9.2.1. I compiled wallet with newest github source for v0.9.2.1. Some problems solved, wallet started normally. Blockchain seems downloaded fully but still not compatible with prev wallet v0.8.3.23 or my 24). So it needs resyncing (or recovering from backup). Above problem with showing 1000x less quarks still present. Advance is obvious. One suggestion:In configuration.ac change line AC_SUBST(INCLUDES) => AC_SUBST(AM_CPPFLAGS) INCLUDES is obsolete. This wallet is not ready for testing at all! They have begun the transition- I will let you know when the update is complete and ready for testing- Of course it is not ready for testing at all. But not for me Btw, inform devs about this suggestion. |
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For devs of new wallet version 0.9.2 (new very early stage of development wallet) only:But - I have 1000x less QRKs than before. Only a few Probably same with transactions. Syncing with network probably work. I refuse to test other sensitive options After returning to current version of wallet, 0.8.23, or my 0.8.24, it seems blockchain is corrupted Do not use this new early stage wallet 0.9.2, just for experiments, except if you have to like I had to Do backup! I see devs work on new wallet based on gui from bitcoin v0.9.2.1. I compiled wallet with newest github source for v0.9.2.1. Some problems solved, wallet started normally. Blockchain seems downloaded fully but still not compatible with prev wallet v0.8.3.23 or my 24). So it needs resyncing (or recovering from backup). Above problem with showing 1000x less quarks still present. Advance is obvious. One suggestion:In configuration.ac change line AC_SUBST(INCLUDES) => AC_SUBST(AM_CPPFLAGS) INCLUDES is obsolete. |
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Let's try this instead of storytellings: Does somebody want to invest in Quark just for buying possible new Coin Core - coin without any known characteristics?
Should I set poll with this question? |
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@coinerer
Keep repeating...Quark deserves better? I am 100% with you. Now provide these solution en detalle and I will be happy to follow.
P.S. Your compiled wallets don't help with the hashrate issue.
my compiled wallet is only a small and easy step to improve something a bit. Nothing big improved. Just compiled with newest libraries (it required somewhat big work to me, new in compiling wallets ) I also tried personally to work in updating/correcting new early development stage wallet 0.9.2. It is very big job especially for me now. It requires very deep understandings how every wallet or gui works. My fast and nervous attempts of the changing code are not good for such work |
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I wouldn't know why the community wouldn't want to move to a better Crypto with more dev activity and promising features. I would, as a Quark holder.
What we would get from this move is: security problem will be solved, development funds, more dev activity and techs added. Although we really should try to keep ShaqFu, it's something that really separates a Crypto from others, it's something no other Crypto can have. With new techs other cryptos can add it as well but something like ShaqFu is special, so we need to make sure if ShaqFu devs can go with Core instead of quark, if we explain it i don't see a reason why they shouldn't.
Overal i like this, but need to see what the rest thinks about this as well.
Do you really enjoy telling people cut your losses after the fall of 95%? You should work for some famous institutions and its story tellers Better crypto. lol Better features. lol Promising features sell. lol ... Say simple, pump and dump. |
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Yellow, So what happens to existing Quark holders with their coins in a Proof of Burn process? Do they lose that investment? YC Not sure who you believe doesn't have a real problem if Quark fails. I know folks that have made significant investments in Quark not to have it just fall in price and die. What I referred to was a sort of last choice in case we wonīt be able to find another reliable perspective. Proof-of-burn would be one way to raise money for community and development, design things from scratch and catch some attention in the crypto scene but I wonīt play down the fact that it would imply a lot of hard work and risk. I think if we want to have any hope of maintaining Quark's value during the switch we need to use proof-of-burn (granted, Quark's value is super-low right now but we are still around #20 in marketcap among the hundreds and hundreds of coins out there). I worry that if we make a companion coin without killing quark (or at least some quarkcoins) then all we will do is divide the quark community in half. Some will stick with quark and others will move to the companion coin...especially if it experiences a pump after its launch.To ensure that the new coin has value we need to destroy something that currently does have value--i.e. quarkcoins. Just my 2 quarks. This is a good point and i agree with this. It will divide the community and will make quark fade away, i would rather go with Core. I wouldn't know why ShaqFu devs wouldn't agree if we tell them that quark moved to core. ShaFu is one of the biggest Crypto achievements and we need to keep it. Is not much simpler that Shaq Fu create his own clone? |
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Talking about new coin (Core) without any characteristics of that coin is nonsense.
If market needs nonsenses that is ok.
Instead of thinking about what Doge did in its first month (exchange, Doge markets everywhere), instead of thinking about creating exchange where quark might be exchanged to hundreds of coins you discuss about exchanging Quarks to new Coins with unknown characteristics. Is that something better than nonsense?
If I was reading such and other nonsenses (listed in my prev posts) before half year, I would not have Quarks today. I will wait at 20 sat what is right price for such ideas.
QuarkCoin which established one of the main directions among virtual coins deserves much better, not big set of nonsenses.
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For devs of new wallet version 0.9.2 (new very early stage of development wallet) only:After compilation on Windows 8, Mingw & gcc 4.9.0, and starting quark-qt.exe, wallet failed to start and Error is: MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
Program: ..somepath..\quark-qt.exe
File: chainparams.cpp, Line 68
Expression: hashGenesisBlock == hashMainGenesisBlock
After few pressing on Ignore button, wallet started But - I have 1000x less QRKs than before. Only a few Probably same with transactions. Syncing with network probably work. I refuse to test other sensitive options After returning to current version of wallet, 0.8.23, or my 0.8.24, it seems blockchain is corrupted Do not use this new early stage wallet 0.9.2, just for experiments, except if you have to like I had to Do backup!
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Additionally, our C++ coder/Quark community member: Someguy1234.. will be assisting Max with updates! 
From Max Guevera.:"Status on 0.9.2 code-base upgrade: I've setup a github repository on: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark092/based on the latest Bitcoin 0.9.2 branch. The following changes have been committed: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark092/commits/master* Makefiles updated * Chain parameters * Checkpoints * Configuration files * SHA2 POW hashing replaced with Quark hashing * Some translations from "Bitcoin" to "Quark" * Graphics * Payment server The following changes were applied to Quark: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commits/masterAll these commits needs to be included in the 0.9.2 branch of Quark. In particular we still need to add dynamic checkpoints, from this commit: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commit/79c3190f111cd97cfa653c382417499c1614948cOther changes still to do: * Places where UI text still says "Bitcoin" * Chinese translations for "Quark" * Other core differences between Quark and Bitcoin, particular those made by Sifcoin * Lots of testing! Someguy( NameEdited), feel free to create pull requests for any additional changes or e-mail me queries you may have. Cheers" I have just compiled new QuarkCoins Wallet version 0.9.2 (very early stage of development). At this stage they made extremely good job for compiling at my Windows and MinGW. Compilation passed without any problems (thanks to my script for Windows compiling too ) Compilation passed never easier. But, wallet 0.9.2 is not yet for use (very early stage of development). It crashed immediately after start. So I did not see wallet outook. I think devs will made good job. I like their extremely good compilation configuration for now If somebody wants to try this compilation, first must is to make backup of current wallet. |
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Who is dev of your future Quark clone Core ?
What will be characteristics of the new clone?
You are asking the wrong questions. We are discussing here, not deciding and as long as their are no decisions your questions canīt be answered. This debate is open and if you have arguments, go ahead and let us hear them. Until now I didnīt hear any substantial contribution to the discussion. I don't like any ideas about cloning, raising number of coins, PoS, merged mining with new clones, promotors and devs call for new clones, ... I like ideas about quark exchange, about improving security of quarkcoins, real shops, real use value of coins. I don't know much about technical problems yet, but this idea and previous discussions looks good to me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg7053189#msg7053189Btw, if i were know what I know now (last few days) about Quarks, i will not hold most of my current QRKs now. How would you exactly do it? There isn't really an incentive to mine quarks. That's why the merge mining proposal. I don't know which noob came up with the idea to make fast block halving to 1 quark after 6 months, because that's the cause quark didn't do well after 6 moths was over. Isn't our first priority securing the network? If yes then isn't the only option merge mining? Forget about people keeping their wallet open voluntarily. I am not sure, but is there real difference between opening wallet and opening miners. Opening wallet is energy efficient, mining is not. Maybe solution should be using constant difficulty? Fixed chances (according to total number of opened wallets) to reward opening each wallet? Telling people to keep their wallet open won't work, it's not a fundamental solution. That's why satoshi gave them the incentive to mine and in quark there is no incentive to mine. I don't know how merge mining goes can someone explain, so basically people mine the new coin? but what does it have to do with quarks network security though? Again if merge mining is the only solution then it should be done, quark with an insecure network won't go big. Quarks network security and popularity should rise before ShaqFu comes out. Also merge mine (couple % premine) give us enough funds to work on new techs and add value to quark as well as securing the network. I mean quark hasn't much to lose anyway if you look at the price. By my experience in mining, problem is in the competition who will mine more. Those with better equipments. Every wallet is also miner (very weak for competition and current algorithms). If every wallet will have the same chance to mine coins (regardless of power of equipment, computer) people should have interest to open wallet and mine coins using only wallets. I think that will cause to make (algorithmically) difficulty constant (not important) and external miner (program) not needed (except miner embedded with wallet). Also, today mining is performing in the pools mainly. And pool is only 1 wallet (I suppose). So, poole shoud be eliminated. If we spread mining to all opened wallets only, we get big network of wallets-miners where each wallets control every other wallet/transaction. Ofc, I don't know to implement that now I think this is simplification of the current algorithms, and not sure about possible problems with such algorithm simplification. |
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Who is dev of your future Quark clone Core ?
What will be characteristics of the new clone?
You are asking the wrong questions. We are discussing here, not deciding and as long as their are no decisions your questions canīt be answered. This debate is open and if you have arguments, go ahead and let us hear them. Until now I didnīt hear any substantial contribution to the discussion. I don't like any ideas about cloning, raising number of coins, PoS, merged mining with new clones, promotors and devs call for new clones, ... I like ideas about quark exchange, about improving security of quarkcoins, real shops, real use value of coins. I don't know much about technical problems yet, but this idea and previous discussions looks good to me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg7053189#msg7053189Btw, if i were know what I know now (last few days) about Quarks, i will not hold most of my current QRKs now. How would you exactly do it? There isn't really an incentive to mine quarks. That's why the merge mining proposal. I don't know which noob came up with the idea to make fast block halving to 1 quark after 6 months, because that's the cause quark didn't do well after 6 moths was over. Isn't our first priority securing the network? If yes then isn't the only option merge mining? Forget about people keeping their wallet open voluntarily. I am not sure, but is there real difference between opening wallet and opening miners. Opening wallet is energy efficient, mining is not. Maybe solution should be using constant difficulty? Fixed chances (according to total number of opened wallets and time) to reward opening each wallet? And for preventing simulations of opening many wallets, it should think about opening 1 wallet per computer, network card? |
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