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3021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy BTC now at 565€, good idea ? on: February 07, 2014, 06:16:02 AM
^ when it crosses above or below the number of double whoppers a bitcoin can buy then the signal is confirmed.
3022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 06:13:33 AM
At some point there's going to be this giant green candle and some walls to piss off bears.
3023  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 05:27:40 AM
Well this is moving much faster than I expected...
3024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy BTC now at 565€, good idea ? on: February 07, 2014, 05:04:42 AM
Its most likely going down in a series of waves like in june and this was the first or second one. If you want an aggressive strategy to try to catch the bottom, just buy and sell every 4 hour macd cross. Eventually one of them will be the bottom. If you want less involvement and less profit, use the 1 day macd. Or if you just want a one shot one kill approach with the least amount of profit, use the 1 week macd.
3025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 02:17:55 PM
Every bitcoin post-rally has a slow final downwave that involves a 1 week MACD cross. It doesn't really need to be news-based.
3026  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 06, 2014, 01:51:30 PM
That 10,000 order was there for like an HOUR or TWO before it really started causing damage and the whole time people on the forum were talking about it. If only they had noticed it, they could have prevented the whole thing.
3027  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Based on the recent bounces,

Mtgox: Higher volume than normal.
Bitstamp: Normal volume.
Btce: Lower than normal volume.
Huobi: MUCH lower than normal volume.
3028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
Welcome to Whale Wars™, Episode 4.

- the Stability-For-Prosperity rebellion has been doing everything to keep the price around 800. This has been going of for a few weeks.
- the Cheap-For-Grabs alliance has now launched a universe-wide attack in an attempt to bring the price down. Huge dumps in conjunction with DOSing major charting apps and forums are aimed at blurring the rebellion's vision so they can't react and buy back before it's too late. The second goal is to hide the market movement from the small fish until the price goes down a lot (if it goes down), at which point the DOSing will stop so the fish see the huge drop in surprise and start panic selling.

It's doubtful whether the alliance's plans will have the intended effect, but the ride shall be a joyful one. This is history in the making guys.
Wow you should write movies.  Smiley
Luckily a whale is trading my BTC  Cheesy

Sounds like you're one of Loaded clients.
Cool. What do you have to do to be a whale client? Trading and incessently staring at charts all day has been destroying my life.
3029  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 06, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
I dont think that his original concern had to do with making profits from the abnormality. I think I kind of get where he is coming from.

Consider somehow who just wants to sell their LTC. Not someone who made a profit from the rat (like me), but someone saw LTC was about to crash and just wanted to sell their LTC, at any price. It didn't have to be the abnormal 22, it could be the normal 21. But then LTC crashes to 19. Now instead of having sold his litecoins at 22 or even 21, he now holds LTC valued at 19. Thus, he is at a loss from where he'd be if things were running as normal and the service was accessible.
3030  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 06, 2014, 01:11:40 PM
Question: If you get a margin call on your trading wallet, but you have funds in your exchange wallet, will funds get pulled from your exchange wallet into your trading wallet, or will you get liquidated?

I ask because during slow markets, I primarily trade using exchange wallet rather than trading wallet, so that I don't get charged lending fees. But I still have a bunch of leveraged orders on my trading wallet at incremental low prices in case of flashcrashes and I really don't want to bother having to cancel them all whenever I want to trade on exchange and re-place them whenever I'm done trading on exchange. However, today with that bug two of my outermost flashcrash orders got hit while I had nearly no funds in my trading wallet and it was really a wakeup call. I had 0.8btc in my trading account and I bought 5 btc at 690.1 and 5btc at 680.1. lol. Luckily the price didn't go any further.

In the case that the wallet would be liquidated, I will have to adjust my strategy so that I primarily do trading on the trading wallet and in times when I want to be "in fiat" I will hold a balance of bitcoins but "short" the balance and have an open short position with an equal amount of bitcoins.
3031  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 12:55:47 PM
I read some Twitter comments today about people selling (destroying / smashing) their iPhones just because of that.
The ones who really need the bit/lite/doge wallet functionality will eventually switch to an OS that isn't controlled by a select few, just like the blockchain is supposed to be.
It's not just about existing users but potential users. The more difficult things are, the less new users there will be. It's going to be a little harder to indoctrinate your friend or relative into using bitcoin if you tell them that they have to get a different phone also.
3032  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
Apple news ? Really ?

I fail to see why anyone would give a crap what Apple do or don't keep in their app store and how it could ever affect the price of Bitcoin.
Because mobile devices are the typical wallet for an everyday bitcoin end user visiting his local merchants in a widespread adoption scenario and apple is a huge portion of mobile devices. Using the blockchain app with the clean interface and the QR scanner is very fun and apple just took that fun away for half of bitcoin users on mobile devices. It also reduces exposure and attaches a negative stigma.

more like a quarter


I was thinking of U.S.
3033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 12:39:44 PM
Apple news ? Really ?

I fail to see why anyone would give a crap what Apple do or don't keep in their app store and how it could ever affect the price of Bitcoin.
Because mobile devices are the typical wallet for an everyday bitcoin end user visiting his local merchants in a widespread adoption scenario and apple is a huge portion of mobile devices. Using the blockchain app with the clean interface and the QR scanner is very fun and apple just took that fun away for half of bitcoin users on mobile devices. It also reduces exposure and attaches a negative stigma.
3034  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 06, 2014, 12:30:46 PM
hmm how about some staff to manage one of the largest financial centers of bitcoin and the hundreds of millions of dollars of assets. Even mtgox has staff.
3035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitfinex hit a new record in LTC/BTC on: February 06, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
This is why I never use their trigger orders.
3036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 12:06:32 PM
I don't see a reason why trading would suddenly move back to btcchina if all the of the volume is already at Huobi - what would cause that mass movement to happen? Huobi even has 0% fees. Yes btcchina has the maker taker program but 0 fees is better and maker taker and is a pain in the ass to use unless you're using a bot to beat all the other bots using it. BtcChina also has negative stigma now about being unreliable and having an owner going back and forth with wanton decisions.
3037  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
Neither of the exchanges were ever shut down - only affected by the decisions of their operators to enable/disable deposit methods. Now if the PBOC or chinese government actually comes out and shuts down corporate bank accounts doing btc business then it will likely affect both exchanges at the same time.
3038  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price hits $10,000 on bitfinex on: February 06, 2014, 11:57:21 AM
The news sounds very to the point in trader terms. It almost sounds as if it is from somebody at this forum.
3039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 11:53:03 AM
So is it time to buy now before the next run on 825?

If the market behaves like the last 3 weeks, yes.
Else probably not :p

And dont forget that China's banks are opening soon so maybe we dont stop at 825.
Or Chinese use the opportunity to cash out, and it breaks downwards.

They could've cashed out before new year if they wanted to. Deposits at btc China are new and wil start when the banks open.
Deposits at btcchina aren't adding anything new. Chinese already had the ability to deposit via Huobi. Most likely almost nobody deposits to btcchina because the liquidity (volume) is at huobi now.
3040  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
So is it time to buy now before the next run on 825?

If the market behaves like the last 3 weeks, yes.
Else probably not :p

And dont forget that China's banks are opening soon so maybe we dont stop at 825.
Or Chinese use the opportunity to cash out, and it breaks downwards.
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