Average trader annual return is ~3-5% (some has 20% some -100%)
I highly doubt most professional traders only make 3-5% per year Average !=(not equal) Professional Investor != Trader And who is a professional trader? Someone who works in funds or someone with >x years experience? And when we are talking about professional traders (or rather investors). In 2007, legendary investor Warren Buffett made a $1 million bet against Protégé Partners that hedge funds wouldn’t outperform an S&P index fund, and he won.
Buffett’s choice fund, the Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares, returned 7.1 percent compounded annually, while the basket of hedge funds his competitor chose returned an average of only 2.2 percent, the Wall Street Journal reports. And here we are with ~40% annual ROI. This is huge. |
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Yeaa for now its only ETH token that promise doing something like other 10 000 ethtokens  IDENA is a coin with 2400 uniqe nodes and still 18 times cheaper than DRGN (1.8 mln $ vs 33 mln $ marketcap). Is there anything else to add? |
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I am not familiar with Yolodice and hence this question, but did you have to complete KYC before investing?
No Also is there any other websites available for such investment?
Yes. There are threads with lists of bankroll investments. Gimme 5 min and I'll find it. edit: Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2097255.0Thread is from 2017 so some data might be outdated but it will give you good start with further research. |
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Man, I already deleted the Telegram. If I remember correctly I was supposed to get I guess an invite to be part of the group or something. It only happens on Saturdays or something, and people were asking for something in return for them to add me. I'll try to give it another shot.
 Spend 5 min on reading. Safe 10 min on posting stupid post like "on Saturdays or something" "part of the group or something" "If I remember correctly". I've even sent you links to everything you need to know to mine innovative, one of a kind coin. I tried joining the Telegram to get some Idena, but gave up. It wasn't simple. People just wanted me to buy.
If you give up on project only because one random person that you've met on telegram was not helpfull than I don't want to waste my time on you. https://idena.io/?view=faq https://idena.site/ -> this is how you learn what IDENA is and hot to mine. Not asking on telegram. How else can we pure knowledge into your head if you are to lazy to read? Youtube video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5eEQ2C4_QU&t=648s (just typed IDENA in youtube - 5 s of work) @everyone We are finally done with QBTC - QBTC is down! No more dumping our coins on us.  [from idena telegram] |
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Oczywiście odsyłam wszystkich do artykułu, ale na chłopski rozum coś mi dalej tu nie pasuje, bo przecież te wszystkie środki (minus prowizja dla pooli   ), można przecież bardzo łatwo odzyskać, więc jakoś mi się to nie klei. Z 2.5 mln prowizji i 130$ przelewu da się odyzskać 130$ Wystarczy na chusteczki by otrzeć łzy Jakoś trudno mi w to uwierzyć, jeśli to szantaż to czemu nikt w takim razie się nie odzywa? I tak każdy już wie, że coś jest na rzeczy.
Ciekawe czy te poole dzielą się z opłatami czy biorą je dla siebie.
Też mi to nie pasuje. Musiałoby się to wiązać z całkowitą utratą dostępu do portfeli przez właścicieli. Bo przecież jaki problem przenieśc środki w bezpeiczne miejsce wiedząc, że są zagrożone? Chyba, że coś źle rozumiem. |
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I did additional table for your investment:  I think it can help show true potential of long term investment. We can see that after first 4 weeks sample is big enough to stabilize at 40% estimated annual ROI. I think that it is an actual annual ROI that we should expect if nothing extraordinary happens (f.e. bankroll will double and whale will win/loss big) |
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2.8% for more than a month isn't that bad though and that would be better compare to just sitting my BTC on their site.
Great results. Let me estimate annual ROI x^38=1.028347 x= 1.00074 (daily) 1.00074 ^ 365 = 1.31 (31% annual ROI) Impressive, compared to average trader return As a general rule of thumb, if you are able to make 20-30% annual return with “controlled” losses over the years and I mean over 7–10 years then you are on your track to be in the league of people like George Soros, Warren Buffet and Ray Dalio. Average trader annual return is ~3-5% (some has 20% some -100%) But my advice is don't take too long to close the investment while you are on the profit side because as what Tytanowy Janusz said, he losses his profit because 1 lucky person wins.
It was not my point My point was to dig this investment for years checking bitcointalk scam accusation section and yolodice ANN only. To check if everything is ok in terms of yolodice trust. Daily/weekly returns are warped by a small sample error and will give nothing more but wrong perception of investment. After 2 years 1 whale wont change your return that much because there would be a lot of them before (some will be winning some will be losing) Same thing can be said about opposite situation. Hold your investment as long as possible. You never know when big whale will start to be small fish after big lose. |
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Good luck with your investment. Remember that in dice casino has very small house edge. Statistic advantage over gambler is visible only in very long run (months - years (not weeks)). I know what i'm saying. 1 lucky whale eat my whole month profit - one bad day change my monthly profit from 6% to -1%: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239794.msg54611671#msg54611671 |
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Ok my Doge investment on yolodice passed 1 whole month:  Damn i didn't expect it to be that bad. I'm still recovering after whale big win last week: Meanwhile, my doge investment: It was >+5.2% since yesterday showing great performance after 25 days. I was waiting for whole month to pass to post my results here but... x ^25 = 1.052 x= 1.00203 (daily) x ^ 365 = 2,096 (estimated annual ROI - 109,6% profit) But yesterday one lucky bustard eat my whole profit and left my wallet with -2.26%  Daaaamn. Hats off man. This has to be a great win: my estimation current bankroll - 76 206 000 DOGE. yesterday bankroll - 76 206 000 / 0,925 = 82 384 000 DOGE Lucky bustard profit - ~ 6 mln DOGE = 15 570 $ Congratulation man, whoever you are Hopefully DOGE is stable at 27 sat (right where i bought it). I wish to see that whale once again. I need a revenge If my calculations are right i should be at >6% profit without his win what can be extrapolated to >100% annual profit but ... but its no longer in game - thanks whale |
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https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc215b9356db58ce05412439f49a842f8a3abe6c1792ff8f2c3ee425c3501023cPo raz drugi ten sam błąd? -Szefie, wiesz, jest taka sprawa. Dałem ciała i jesteśmy w plecy 2.5 mln $ -Jak to się stało?!?! -Zobacz ... wysyłałem transakcję na 130 $, wpisałem tutaj ilość, tutaj cenę i wyślij ... ups ... to teraz jesteśmy w plecy 5 mln $ A tak na poważnie, to spotkałem się z taką hipotezą i o ile byłem sceptyczny po pierwszym incycencie tak drugi tego typu przypadek w krótkim odstępie czasu wydaje się zamykać jakiekolwiek inne możliwości:  Cel? Pranie pieniędzy. Strasznie dziwna sprawa i pewnie się okaże, że znowu jakiś haker, jest bogatszy o dwie bańki, bo przecież (CHYBA???) powinno pobrać, tylko należną (średnią) kwotę za gaz i jako opłatę ostateczną?
Sam ustawiasz 2 parametry na których podstawie ustalana jest prowizja. Gas limit - ilość jednostek obliczeniowych jakie powinna maksymalnie zużyć twoja transakcja (po to by nie zapłacić nieskończoności gdy transakcja zapętli się w jakieś nieskończonej pętli (while 1 == 1 xd) ). Jeśli wartość ta jest przekraczana to wywala błąd i trzeba wysyłać ponownie. Jeśli transakcja jest prawodłowa to ten parametr może być dowolny bo i tak zapłacimy tylko za te jednostki obliczeniowe jakie zostały zużyte. Najczęściej ten parametr zostawia się tak jak jest. Jak transakcja nie przechodzi a limit został wykorzystany do końca a jesteśmy pewni, że wszystko powinno być ok to próbujemy zwiększać tą liczbę. Czasem twórca kontraktu wiedząc, że zużywa więcej mocy daje znać jaką wartość wpisać jako optymalną (jakiej prawidłowa transakcja nie powinna przekroczyć) Gas price - Ile jesteśmy w stanie zapłacić za 1 jednostkę obliczeniową. Tu mamy spore pole do popisy. Za mało a żaden miner nie będzie chciał za tak tanio pracować. Za dużo to przepłacamy za transakcję. Najlepiej korzystać tutaj z https://ethgasstation.info/ gdzie podawane jest aktualne obciążenie sieci i optymalne ceny gas. Oba parametry ustala się samemu, chyba, że korzysta się z jakiś serwisów które robią to automatycznie (przeważnie przepłacając 3-10 krotnie - ja zawsze ustalam gas price manualnie). Tu ktoś popełnił błąd i jakby wpisał wielkość transakcji w cenę gas (przez przypadek) albo celowo zgodnie z tym co opisałem wyżej. Myślałem, że portfele Ethereum też zdążyły dorobić się podobnych zabezpieczeń...
Podobno jest to w planach
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there is also a possibility of Binance listing that can get the price to the moon
Source? I hope you are not talking about my post in which I shared a telegram joke together with this link... If there is no official announcement from binance there is no listing and everything else is a rumour. According to binance listing rules the only company that can share information about listing is binance itself. Binance reserve right to break off negotiations at every stage if news about listing leaks before their official announcement. If any shitcoin CEO claims that he is talking with binance he is lying or is stupid and just fucked up everything. |
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I feel like the risk is really big for the low profit you are getting. The problem with investing in casinos is the whales who came and take big amounts from them. Today if a whale goes to the casino where you have your investment and walks away with more than 5btc then you will go to negative. It is about time to see that happens. So, be careful and play it smart.
This has no sense. Next day other whale will came and leave 10 BTC in casino or even the same whale excited about his 5 BTC win will come to double loosing everything. With statistic advantage over each gambler (no matter how big his wallet is) casino will win with most whales/small fishes. Casino has another advantage that not many realize and has impact on casino profit. If you win, you can always lose next time or even the same day (you have your money and profit in casino wallet - the most dangerous place for addicted gamblers)- casino has opportunity to recover. If lose you end up without money, so you don't have opportunity to recover. |
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Take a look on the second post by Tytanowy Janusz it says all.
that is the only way OP's post makes any sense.
I think that not mine post says all but btc_angela. I think that OP just make short post to promote Freewallet and Changelly and we all were lured to bump his topic (trying to figure out what is OP trying to say). Just stop it and let this thread sink and be forgotten because it has no use case other than promoting possible scam. |
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My node was killed even though it was suspended once.
I feel sorry for you. I see you here since november. Stake has to be hudge. Accept my condolences. My node was already "Human", I did all the flips and it killed my account along with my stake. I thought this was not supposed to happen on the second attempted validation. Flips were not even loading properly.
If you miss validation with suspended status you become zombie. If you fail validation with suspended status you are killed. Human protection does not work with long session or if you are suspended. That's why you were killed. Current IDENA node graph. I'm shocked that we was able to recover and even add 139 new nodes during 1 validation.  BTW:  link |
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Mamy oficjalną odpowiedź od BRAVE: https://brave.com/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/Wygląda na to, że ich celem było "tylko" zasugerowanie ci na pierwszym miejscu w wyszukiwarce po wpisaniu np. binance zamiast binance.com to binance.com/ref... Przez błąd jednak ref dopisywany był nawet przy wpisaniu całego adresu samemu ( https://binance.com) i następowało przekierowanie na stronę z refem. Błąd ma być usunięty jednak dalej ich refy będą dodawane w pierwszej podpowiedzi wyszukiwania jako strona sugerowana w momencie wyszukiwania strony po wyrazie (wydaje się niewinne). Opcja pokazywania na pierwszym miejscu podpowiedzi brave jest możliwa do wyłączenia w przeglądarce.  U mnie co bym nie wpisał to wchodzę na goły link bez reffów. Może to naprawili a może nie działa to w PL jeszcze. |
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Is it a "normal" winner?
How to judge if someone win was "normal"? There was nothing extraordinary. From my perspective (in Yolodice i see my profit from investment in real time) it was like my profit from slow constant grow changed to going rapidly up and down (looks like someone was betting high sometimes winning sometimes loosing) and after some time from + 5% i was left with -2% and now i'm back to slow constant grow. Someone was just lucky (brave (or crazy) with such big bets). You got to -2% does that mean you owe them now?
No it means that i have 98% of my initial investment. |
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Looks like they are exit scamming. They already transferred 200k DNA from their wallet to Qtrade to dump it. I have no strong proof but it looks very suspicious:
Qbtc is most likely dumping our coins on us. This is not a great contribution ... They are a cancer for us. Already dumped >200k DNA our coins on us.
Looks like I was right. Withdrawals on Qtrade are locked and we have announcment:
QBTC Customer Service, [08.06.20 09:10]
Dear all, Sorry for the all inconvenience. QBTC is cooperating with the police investigation. In the meantime, QBTC is not able to process withdrawal, we are very sorry for this and we will fix all problems ASAP. Thanks for your support!!
Good thing is that there are only 40k DNA left on their wallets. ~260k was already dumped. Whats interresting is that deposits still works, but are not recomended [facepalm]! QBTC Customer Service, [08.06.20 09:10]
Anvar Allagulov 🆑🅾, [08.06.20 13:25]
Why the withdrawal does not work, but does the input of funds work?
QBTC Customer Service, [08.06.20 13:27]
because deposit is automatical, and I don’t recommend you to do that. |
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+1 But it's so freaking addictive to constantly check those numbers go up and down. I check mine several times a day +100 Sometimes the house lose, that's the reality in gambling, but you have the advantage man, you'll eventually be back in the profitable side.
I suggest for investors not looking or focusing on short term performance, try making evaluation in a monthly basis.
Yea I know I even increased my investment by 50% hoping that this "lucky bustard" will come back again and with attitude "this is just my profit, lets go all in and double it, i'm not risking my money, just profit" will in fact lose profit and starting wallet. That's how it usually ends.  Each time someone wins big next day cames back and lose all. edit: Damn i don't feel comfortable hoping that someone will lose. It's so ungrateful type of investment that makes you feel bad when you are earning. Same thing i had shorting company that i like which price was short term overpriced. One time you think - "i hope something bad happened to their project and price will dump 30% to profit from trade" and then you think "But i want this project IRL to be good ... because i want to use it". Is it first step to dissociative identity disorder ? . |
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Just choose the exchange you like. There's no need to care about so much truth or falsehood. In fact, qbtc network has made a great contribution to idena. This is undeniable.
Qbtc is most likely dumping our coins on us. This is not a great contribution ... They are a cancer for us. Already dumped >200k DNA our coins on us. Also their fake volume (and fake price) destroys coingecko charts. This is the third time that I missed the validation I am now suspended just like some the rest, I don't know if things will be on the next validation if I missed the validation will I become a zombie or my identity will be killed right away, all I know is you need three successive missed validation before your account is killed, is this right I don't want my account killed and lose my stakes.
I am thinking of taking my stakes and ask for a new invitation code so I can start over again.
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