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3021  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 24, 2014, 03:30:06 PM
Where are the Wall(Floor?)builder's? I have had the lowest sell offer on C-S for over an hour now, get with it GAWster's!
3022  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 24, 2014, 12:31:30 AM
Looks like the Homero edit thread got taken care of real quick  Roll Eyes

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25609/why-the-edit

Someone tell that Redacted douche-bag that NOTHING was verified by the Wall Street Journal. A WSJ blogger does NOT equal the WSJ.

If GAW/Paycoin was a $100,000,000 venture it would definitely be in the actual Wall Street Journal, most likely with at least a front page lead if not a front fold spot. The fact that it isn't should be yet another red flag, but the heap of red flags with this obvious scam is so immense now that it is turning into a mountain, and those that still can't see it probably will not until this thing starts going the way that logic, mathematics,  and history predict it will.
3023  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 09:52:41 PM
I haven't seen anyone talk about the ultra super sketchy TOS thats still up or did no one even read it.

Under section 4. Certain Risks Associated with HashStakers

4.3 Risk that Paycoin May Never be Completed or Released. Purchaser understands that, while the Company will make reasonable efforts to complete the Paycoin software, it is possible that an official completed version of Paycoin may not be released and there may never be an operational Paycoin, Prime Controller, or HashStaker.

or this is a really good one

4.4 Paycoins May Have No Value. Paycoin is a new cryptocurrency and its value is determined by supply and demand. At any point after its release, it is possible that the market price of a Paycoin may be zero. Because the value of Paycoin may be zero, the value of a stake, in Paycoins, from a HashStaker may also be zero.

there's a whole bunch of other ultra sketchy terms that scream all ye who enter here abandon all hope



Go mention it on ht and see what happens. oh wait, never mind...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23279/is-this-really-the-terms-of-service-tos-or-is-this-something-that-someone-made-up-and-is-passing-around

Amazing what is on these HT threads:



Idiots? My guess is that the instant you find out you lost your IRA and the kids college fund to these scammers you will be the first in line to sue. Idiots indeed.

But relax, they are making "rocket fuel"



"To the Mooon!" I guess that explains why no paperwork or structure or functionality is in place for the promised Paycoin system. These morons have been busy making rocket fuel instead.

And this pretty much sums up the mentality of these "investors".



Uhhh, wrong. It actually is from the GAW TOS. The link to it is a couple posts up in that same thread, just above the post about making "Rocket Fuel", ya fool. I think some folks over there have been drinking rocket fuel.

Click here to visit the actual TOS that is also linked in that very thread.


3024  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
Homero cooking up his next batch of lies: Ahh, Here we go. Got my Paybase all ready to roll out. Just gotta open this thing like so and...



3025  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 08:38:39 PM

Get the popcorn!  I was just scrolling through the hype on the Paycoin website.  Paycoin is gonna be Paincoin when the party ends.



"Paighgoin GAWesome!...Blargggh Frrt Glort! Hambuurrgerz, Blort Blech Blaaaaarrgh!"

This just in, apparently Homero has cashed in millions of Paycoin at Meganet and bought a ride out of town with his new car!

3026  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 08:17:33 PM
Look at this Paybase is already saving people money and it's not even out yet. That's how incredibly innovative this product is!

https://paybase.com/
(scroll down to comments at the bottom)

Wow, that is amazingly FAST! Paybase transactions occur a week before Paybase is (supposedly) coming online!



Look out Homero!!



At what point do the mesmerized finally snap out of it? Do they really have to be smacked in the face with a fish?


Edit to add: Apparently nobody told the advertising blatant liars department about the delay in the Paybase rollout so they went ahead and pasted in the pre-made "testimonials" about how great Paybase is. Completely Effing amazing. How many fools still believe the BS from these liars?   Huh It is right in your face for god's sake!
3027  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Are you saying something is wrong with the "Hamburgerz" Homero is delivering?



Looks fine to me...

Umm ... That looks about normal for those Mc burger flippers who want $15 an hour

Picture this.......  a dark, abandoned military installation basement, a stagnant water layer on the floor, its cold, its very humid, the air smells like the last fresh air piped in was from 1960, the asbestos coating on the pipes flaking off and falling like snow in the breeze you make when walking by, the once light yellow-green walls are now covered in this black mold called XPY ... not even spiders have made a home in that basement.

You start to get an itch in your throat, you gag, you start coughing, you start getting claustrophobic in the darkness, then you start thinking of reasons why there is absolutely no forms of life in that basement, no mice, no spiders ..... you then get the mad urge to get the hell out of that basement.


Obviously FUD!



Good thing you are already in the cornfield or Josh would send you here.

P.S: I guess I was being overly optimistic....
3028  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 06:38:57 PM
Are you saying something is wrong with the "Hamburgerz" Homero is delivering?



Looks fine to me...
3029  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 02:16:30 PM
The Hashstakers are only CAD drawings and as far as I know do not actually exist. Take a look at the images, those are definitely not real physical units, but only fancy renderings.



If they were to "find some in inventory" I suspect they would be made out of Unicorn horns covered with Bigfoot skin filled with Fairy Dust.
Of course this is real. Didn't you know that you need a four times bigger device when you want to stake 1000 coins and not just 100?

"Comes in three sizes! Gullible, Really Gullible, and REALLY, REALLY, GULLIBLE!

Buy Now! Supplies are limited!!"


Edit to add:
How do they enforce the difference in stake % between their own wallets and third party wallets? I assume this is opensource, is there some sort of hardcoded secret that allows their prime controllers or whatever its called to yield so much more? IF so, how long before someone hacks it?

My guess is that "hacks" will be used as yet another excuse at some point, whether they are outside or Inside Job hacks makes no difference.

"Awe shucks guys! Dad blame hackers took down Paycoin blockchain again so I can't hand out your candybars yet again. Gosh darn it all ta heck!"
3030  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 02:09:44 PM
Can someone please clarify this for me, what is Josh selling at the moment? I mean all his ads on the websites say Hashstakers but there are none for sale, is his income source now only people buying PayCoin which he will be selling?

Gaw did premine 12 million coins out of the 12.3m in existence so I guess he is ok with the lemmings buying it.

The out of inventory on stakers/hashlets/paycoin is of course a marketing gimmick. After a while, they will again find some in inventory from some corner of the huge datacenter. And when they are available, you can bet your house on that they will be only for a limited time, you must buy NOW and buy more paycoin to put in the stakers ASAP!

The hurry hurry is also a common tactic used to sell shit, like TV-shop usually has those order now within 1 hour and receive xxx free

Edit:
Lol inBitweTrust beat me to it Smiley

The Hashstakers are only CAD drawings and as far as I know do not actually exist. Take a look at the images, those are definitely not real physical units, but only fancy renderings.



If they were to "find some in inventory" I suspect they would be made out of Unicorn horns covered with Bigfoot skin filled with Fairy Dust.
3031  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 02:18:53 AM

Poor Oldschool1, he has been extremely civil laying out his concerns, then Redacted and a couple others get into the conversation and turn it into a juvenile free-for-all towards the end.

<sigh>

You can't talk seriously with some of those people, so why even bother? If Josh wants to be taken seriously, he should surround himself with serious people.

I agree.  I think Suchmoon should do the same.

Maybe Josh should host a private teleconference between key individuals on both sides of the issues? That way the concerns can be discussed and information shared without any of the extraneous chatter that can be seen on both sides in the forums.

Would Josh even entertain the notion of such a thing? Would anyone on here be willing to listen to what Josh has to say without resorting to insults? Can the same be said for Josh's team?

I am not a fan of the argument that was made that there isn't enough evidence to prove it isn't a scam or that the business plan is full of holes. There are quite a few topics I think Josh could share that would go a long way to assuage any fears.


Mr. Garza is the CEO of a corporation taking investments from people and promising ridiculous amounts of returns on those investments. Suchmoon is some random guy on an internet forum. The fact that you can not tell the difference between these two things is an example of the divide in logic between those who understand a scam when they see one and those that want to believe the unbelievable.
3032  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 23, 2014, 12:37:09 AM
I think at this point in this thread pretty much any cultural reference that can be made about this fandango has probably already been done, likely more than once.

Anybody know when the first Hitler reference was made in this thread? Gotta be within the first couple dozen pages I would think.

Moore's Law has nothing on Godwin's Law....
3033  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 11:40:51 PM
This doesn't sound good in my subjective opinion:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25356
https://archive.today/ZdGK1

Quote
GAWCEO
Admin
Moderator
Industry Innovator

What if......

Here is an idea. What if we gave the debit cards to the new people coming in to crypto. Those that want to try it out, and need a debit card as a bridge to help them get in to it.

What if us veterans, did not use the debit card. Instead, every store we wanted to use paycoin at, we worked hard to convinced them to take Paycoin.

The reward is another company taking paycoin, and we get the item we were trying to buy Smiley

No debit card for you! Or for you! Or you either!

Man this guy must have ADD he changes his mind on things so much. This sorta reminds me of that short story about the 6 year old that has God like powers and so everyone in town has to spend all their time appeasing him to keep him from destroying the world.



It's a real nice coin, Josh, isn't it everyone?

Edit to add: I guess this is "The Cornfield" everyone gets sent to when they don't please Anthony, err Josh.,,

3034  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 10:54:29 PM
I am reading posts here for like 5 hours ... and i still dont understand why its this argue about a crypto win or failure... so please i invite you to look at all other crypto currencies... they all fall down ... that is the cryptos life.. eventually will go down ... have you seen anybody being punished or being in prison because of the failing of dogecoin Huh Or maybe someone was punished because of the litecoin drop .. or bitcoin drop ... or mtgox scam ... please stop talking what you dont know... i got this saying in my country ... the dog dies of long run and the fool dies of otherone concerns .... so let gaw concern about the price upping or droping .. you cant stop them selling their products.... you cant stop the paybase opening ... and we have a chance to prevail when all others have failed !

To my knowledge this is the first coin to be created, promoted, and backed by a "major" company. They have made very explicit promises about what will be delivered for investment in Paycoin.  That changes everything as far as legality goes compared to some coin created by a kid in his mom's basement. A corporation taking people's money for a promised product or return on investment and then not delivering it is not a "scam" it is fraud, and is still quite illegal *Unless you are part of the banking system that controls the government.
3035  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 10:35:39 PM
They do realize there is MAYBE 30 Bitcoin holding up the buy orders from .0333+? I don't understand some people. It's like they think heavy whales really care to dump a price down 30% for 30 Bitcoin or less. Lol. It's seen as a victory in their eyes. "The price is rising so it means we're winning."

It is even worse than that. A couple days ago I posted something from HT where people were talking about creating a SELL wall to bring the XPY price up. That is the level of imbecility and delusion involved here.
3036  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 05:30:22 PM
Looks like Coin-Swap eeled me out of the .03 XPY I was gambling with. And here I was ready to make my play.  Grin When C-S went down the other day I actually had .3 BTC sitting there that I intended to buy XPY @ .015, and after C-S came back up (BTC only available) I decided I better just get my BTC out and never got around to trying a buy at another exchange so I missed out on this pump that we all knew was coming. Oh well. At least I only lost .03 XPY in the deal, anybody else lose more than that in the C-S XPY crash?
3037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: Best Peercoin Pool? on: December 21, 2014, 01:25:55 PM
https://peercoin.ecoining.com Is or was one of the biggest PPC pools. Only 10 confirms per block.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will give that one a try. I do see people on the chat there saying something is wrong right now though, I will probably wait until things clear up before I test it out.

Anyone else have a Peercoin Pool suggestion?
3038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Best Peercoin Pool? on: December 21, 2014, 12:38:06 AM
Looking for a good Peercoin pool. Who do you recommend and why? Does not have to be Peercoin only, if you have a favorite multicoin pool that has good Peercoin yield and features that is even better, I am getting tired of signing up for a pool for every coin. Thanks for your help in advance.  Smiley
3039  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 20, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
My question about MMpool is how often are payouts? I see ~1-2 blocks per month, so it would be hard to calculate your return for a given day to know if it is worthwwhile, or am I missing something?
3040  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 20, 2014, 02:48:02 PM
Who exactly is going to buy from Meganet? Blackwater? Their products are things like "Bomb Jammer's" and such....

Gauging from the amount of money the Meganet CEO said they had wrapped up in Paycoin, this looks to be some sort of salvaging operation on their part. They know 99.999% of people are not interested in their ridiculously overpriced products (their #1 customer appears to be the US Gov and maybe Blackwater- go figure) , so saying they will accept XPY @ $20 smells like an attempt to add legitimacy to Paycoin to try and prop it up and keep the scheme goin a bit longer in hopes that they can get their investment out. The only product I see listed that the average Joe might be interested in is a USB drive, and those are priced about 10x the going rate, so I guess they will sell of of those that people want @$20 per Paycoin.

Edit to add:
Blackwater gear?

But what happen ta muh Wahmart?



P.S: I think all of the GAW investors should stock up on all of the spygear offered @ Meganet and put it to good use! Going to need evidence at some point, those spy cell phone interceptors might come in real handy....
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