Meanwhile, my doge investment: It was >+5.2% since yesterday showing great performance after 25 days. I was waiting for whole month to pass to post my results here but... x ^25 = 1.052 x= 1.00203 (daily) x ^ 365 = 2,096 (estimated annual ROI - 109,6% profit) But yesterday one lucky bustard eat my whole profit and left my wallet with -2.26%  Daaaamn. Hats off man. This has to be a great win: my estimation current bankroll - 76 206 000 DOGE. yesterday bankroll - 76 206 000 / 0,925 = 82 384 000 DOGE Lucky bustard profit - ~ 6 mln DOGE = 15 570 $ Congratulation man, whoever you are  |
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After all this, some or more exchanges are not processing withdraw instantly. They do batch processing withdraws for security and cost effective reasons. Even USDT kind of things are available in support of arbitrage trading unlike what we had some 5 or 7 years back, there could be only 50% chances to remain effective when we are moving assets across exchanges. People are sharing like they do keep funds on more than one exchanges to get rid off withdraw delays but not sure about their ROI with respect to all the combined funds across multiple exchanges.
We are talking about no withdrawal arbitrage. People are sharing like they do keep funds on more than one exchanges to get rid off withdraw delays but not sure about their ROI with respect to all the combined funds across multiple exchanges.
That's where you have advantage over others. You feel ok with holding ZIL ? You are arbitraging ZIL. You are ok with holding DOGE? You are arbitraging doge or even using DOGE/ZIL trading pair if you find it on one of exchanges. This is really huge market and there is for sure space for more than 100 customers considering amount of trading pairs, exchanges, attitude of people to hold certain altcoin. You can also use it to increase profit from your regular altcoin trading. You see buy opportunity on ALT/BTC trading pair? You open trade and in the same moment start arbitrating this altoin across few exchanges to increase it's amount. You want to close trade? You turn off arbitrage bot and sell on exchange where it actually is. |
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I believe Ebay doesn't monitor scams. Its seems self bouncing sales post. There is lots of positive feedback which have created by a scammers team. The scam technic isn't new but scammers changing their way to gain trust from buyers. High return within short time isn't something potential legit platform. Buyers should realized there isn't such as money making machine. It's quite surprising that there is no any negative feedback but all feedbacks are positive with five start. Really scared. Those peoples have account on Ebay they could use Report Item, perhaps it would save some innocent/greedy peoples. It's because this guy is selling ETH with profit to people not knowing how much ETH is worth. He is selling 2$ for 4$. If you are stupid enought to buy it you will net become smart after reciving 0.01 ETH. You will rate it 5 stars and enojoy your 0.01 ETH woth 2$. In this type of deal (selling 2$ for 4$) scamming is less profitable than not scamming because a satisfied customer will rate 5 starts, buy more or bring friends. |
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Let's not focus away from the fact that they are collecting rewards for all those invitations. Rewards that are supposed to be spread evenly amongs miners who work really hard to keep their "human status" and look for people who are not going to waste those invitations.
They make the pot of rewards smaller for everyone else by issuing their own invitations.
I was on your side all the time until purpose of those funds was explained to me. 9000$ for only those 2 projects (that gives much more in value back to the network) is equal to 112 000 DNA (14% of this wallet) and there will be only more of them. This wallet speed up development and outsource port of it from main developers - increases amount of smart heads working for project and allow IDENA to function long after main develops will quit - just like satoshi (distribution from this wallet to developers can become automatic). And as we can observe someone, who take care of this account is only balancing demand/supply ratio. Giving as many invitation as network needs not giving 500 invitations each epoch spamming telegram witch them. I tried joining the Telegram to get some Idena, but gave up. It wasn't simple. People just wanted me to buy.
If you give up on project only because one random person that you've met on telegram was not helpfull than I don't want to waste my time on you. https://idena.io/?view=faq https://idena.site/ -> this is how you learn what IDENA is and hot to mine. Not asking on telegram. |
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- Minimum spread percent
- Minimum possible profit
- Max order amount
Max order amount is not so important IMO because if trigger conditions will remain bot will perform second trade, third and so on and in fact will do the same as without this parameter (only longer). It is only a parameter to set if you don't trust bot (what is understandable) and you are scared that bot will do losing trade with whole wallet because of delay in api communication (hmm... it makes it important than ). If I was doing it for me I would set it like that: (BTC/USDT arbitrage example) conditions on one of exchanges - spread parameter 95% of wallet in BTC, 5% in USDT - perform trde if spread >5x% 80% of wallet in BTC, 20% in USDT - perform trade if spread >2x% 50 % of wallet in BTC, 50% in USDT - perform trade with spread >x% 20% of wallet in BTC, 80% in USDT - perform trade if spread >2x% 5% of wallet in BTC, 95% in USDT - perform trde if spread >5x% Or I would put it in parabolic/linear function to achieve better performance (better adaptation of the bot to the conditions) with less code. This should help optimate profit because of limited wallet supply and no withdrawals. You will not sell all BTC on one exchange for 1% profit when few seconds after there is 2% profit conditions. This will somehow work as max order parameter because if spread>x% bot will perform trade and wait for bigger spread or wallet rebalance (it will not go all in one trade). I would also code "inside 1 exchange arbitrage system" (doing instant circles f.e. USDT-BTC-ETH-USDT). |
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This should be a 24/7 bot that do it all by itself without human hand (in fact that's how majority of arbitrage is done nowadays). Don't get me wrong. Tool looks great and for sure is useful but you automatized 95% of work and remaining 5% is as easy/hard as those 95% was. Just take a look at that: 1- earning opportunity 2- human reaction time (if he is in front of PC at all) 3- human doing click click clik to do perform trade 4- human is human and just made mistake, money lost, opportunity is gone (or was gone long ago between point 1 and 2 or 1 and 3) instead of: 1 - earning opportunity 2 - 0.1 - 1 sec after trade is done 24/7 After I've done my first trading bot that works 24/7 (liquidity provider) i just can't imagine how people doing things like that manually (even with tools). But bots like that are not an object that somoene wants to sell (at least i would never sell my bot because it just works and earns) So instead I've been primarily focusing for solving arbitrage when you already hold assets on two exchanges and submit accompanying buy and sell orders in parallel on each exchanges That's the only right way. There is no other way of doing it correct, profitable and with minimum risk. Good work with choosing this system. Order sizes:
Largest w/o slippage
This is great Just do one step forward, run it as 24/7 automatic bot and leave your company |
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Trading on centralized exchange does not require coins to actually move on blockchain. It is only change of ownership written in exchange books. Trades are instant. On binance there are hundreds of them per second. They are blazing fast. The case that you are talking about are coin transfers and it has almost nothing in common with trading. To transfer Fiat to traditional stock Exchange you also need to wait for hours (ELIXIR SESSIONS) or pay extra (just like with bitcoin - your transfer will go in next block (0-10min) if you pay high enough).
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First red flag I noticed here is getting double of your of the amount you paid in 2 hour.
Double or half ? This guy is selling 0.01 ETH contract for 4.4$ when in fact it is worth 2.4$. It may not be scam (in term that you won't receive ETH) you will most likelie receive it but it is well overpriced. I think that this guy simple feeds on the potential lack of insight into crypto prices by statistical ebay user. That's all. |
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[deleted fonts and colours, we are not in kindergarten]
First off it is *NOT* Bitcoin and you could **NEVER** possibly mine an entire whole 1.0 Bitcoin from a cellphone!
Your taking about is 0.00000000007 Bitcoin mining app!!! 1.0 Bitcoin mining would heat it up to a point of melting!! Bitcoin uses your CPU & GPU, With Pi Network I'm earning between 20.0 to 30.0 Pi a day! So yeah first Mining app that's able to mine a whole 1.0 Coin,
0.25 PI per hour = 6 PI for day for 3 million nodes ... 18 million supply daily for how long? More than a year? We can estimate that it is about 18 * 10^6 * 365 / (lets say linear increment so 2) = 3 billion supply (now you know why you can mine whole coin daily and you can't mine whole bitcoin daily with mobile app?) It is already being traded in one Chinese exchange in the form of IOU token at $0.348900 looks good even if the token is not yet distributed this is a big temptation for people to mine, but when they distributed the token I doubt it can maintain the price it will definitely crash the price, people are mining it for the money, it's easy money so they think it is. https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/pi-network-iou With 3 billion supply we are talking about 1 billion dollars in marketcap (top 15 CMC). We should expect price drop 99% after unlocking tokes. For everyone considering mining (thinking that money is more important than your personal data) - you will not get even a fraction of what you think you will get. I'm wondering what is this price based on? Who is selling if all mined coins are locked? In reality this is a top 500 - 1000 CMC project currently (my estimation ... of cours if not scam) so we are talking about 2 milion marketcap and 0.0006 $ per PI, 0,004$ per DAY, 1,46$ per YEAR per NODE risking all your personal data |
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Don't waste my time on your dumb stuff.
You are trying to distract my attention.
Maybe this will surprise you but despite the fact that i'm referring to you I'm not posting here for you. I'm doing it for all DT members who are here trying to judge if we are talking about scam or not. And this may also surprise you. If you mute me it does not mean that other's can't read my posts too. You only make your posts looks out of topic. And if you repost the same post you are simply spamming. Remember to mute me also on your other accounts. I've seen at least 3-4 with the same posting habbits and <50 posts. Amount of emotions you put into each post (offending people) only profs that you feel very helpless/insecure trying to prof scam accusation using your opinions only. |
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All coins have a fixed premine. It cannot increase.
The size of the premine affects the cost of the coin. The more premine - the lower the cost. And here it is constantly growing.
There is no law requiring a premine to be fixed.
But this characterizes the developers of the coin.
In this coin, premine will not be consumed at all.
They will pay for something, IF they will, then from this growing part.
Why should people get an interest in buying coins if the developers get new coins from the air?
All payments should be made only from this amount - 521,526 DNA.
All reward coins must be burned.
Where are scam accusation evidances? This is your opinion and some data about price/supply ratio and nothing more... What did you say yourself. I do agree that this account should not receive invitation rewards or it should be stated in WP what is a purpose of those coins and to who they belong. I think that those funds should, at least, be transferred to zero-wallet.
I did not say that it profs scam. I said that this wallet needs special purpose. " at least, be transferred to zero-wallet." Wallet that is not one person money but funds with it's own purpose and is locked for project (and that's what it is). After my post Krucifer explained me the purpose of this wallet and I merit his post. Just like you spoke out in disbelief about such a huge premine. That's what scares me the most about IDENA.
1- 36 milion premine. (82% of all coins in hands of team now)
17th of December man. After this post IDENA TEAM locked 70% of premine for 1-5 years and that was my case: Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your work and i agree that you should be fairly rewarded but in my opinion current situation will scare every possible investor away.
I'm not saying that you should burn part of those coins (in fact that would be the best for community, but as I already said I agree that You should be fairly rewarded). I'm saying that You should reconsider locking 50-80% of those coin for next 2 year.
In truth, you are not a smart person, or you are paid by these scammers.
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And now you say the opposite, although the actions of devs only emphasize their greed.
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You are the crypto whore who protects the one who pays.
When they pay me? In december they wansn't because i was posting about premine, than they was paying, 3 days ago they wasn't because i was posting about purpose of 800k wallet and after 3 days they are paying again? You see how stupid it is? Indeed, jokes about the poles are absolutely true...
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In truth, you are not a smart person
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You are the crypto whore who protects the one who pays.
And it only shows how immature you are and how immature this whole accusation is. "Gimme coins, more coins, coins, coins, or i will cry so much in evey possible thread and offend everyone" That's how it looks like. |
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You did not argue anything and objected nothing.
You don’t even understand what it is about.
This is scam accusation thread in scam accusation section and this \/ is scam accusation: No, it seems that this coin is still a scam.
Not the idea of a coin, but developers are scammers.
So we should discuss scam accusation evidences here not personal opinions and all you bring here are your subjective opinions. That's why I did not argue anything and only said that there are no scam evidences. If you want us to discuss your personal opinions than create "my opinions about Idena" thread in off-topic section. Just take a look at that. The point is that this part of the premine is increasing. A premine must be fixed!
Who said that? Ronald McDonald? Is it international law? No. It is your personal opinion. Distribution is what it is and fact that you don't like it doesn't make IDENA team scammers. And premine is fixed. It's separate fund for community driven developments. To pay YOU and OTHERS for contribution for network (f.e. this https://idena.site/faq_tutorials.php#answer4 , https://idena.today/ , https://idena-apps.org/) The scam is that they could make up for the loss, but because of greed, they didn't do it.
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Why not take these 279,300.146 DNA coins and pay them for those losses? After all, developers should not have these coins, only 521,526 DNA in Foundation part, because premine can't grow!
It's again your opinion. In my opinion funds should be used for its intended purpose and this is not their intended purpose. This is not scam evidence just your opinion. But when you try to talk about it in a Telegram chat, administrators and moderators immediately try to shut up your mouth, threatening to ban. Because they don't want people to know about it. Which once again confirms that devs are scammers.
Community admin did something so it confirms that IDENA DEVS are scammers... This is nonsense. And the most fun thing is that to confirm your opinion you post SS of opinion of another random person (or it is you on telegram - we don't know that)... "Because they don't want people to know about it" - Thats why they put it in official announcment and whitepaper...You did not argue anything and objected nothing.
Again. Open new thread and name it "my opinions about IDENA" and leave "scam accusation thread" with your subjective opinions or at least don't expect us to discuss them here. |
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To everyone who is here not knowing what it is all about. It is a Troll game from paid FUD maker who is making a storm in a glass of water. He was laughed by everyone who would be interested (everyone who is "scammed by IDENA team", me included) so he came here... some sh....t
I'm in this project for much more than half a year. If someone was scammed it would be me .. who else? There was no ICO. I came here ... again ... and read your post trying to be a person who is here not knowing what it's all about trying to judge scam accusation ... Not rewarded for creating FLIP/solving ... so you are saying that team is scamming because blockchain algorithm due to 10 min bug did not pay free coins (that was burned and was comming from regular distribution not TEAM wallet) for choosing nice google image?? It's kindergarten? And team did not use it's power to attack blockchain to reverse what happened ? And it makes them scammers? Team is scamming because of 36 million coin premine? Is it hidden? It's written in white paper... Just read. Don't like it don't join in it... don't take free coins from mining 100$ using 5$ VPS monthly In what other coin did you see the increasing premine ?! Everywhere... In ~~~~80% of coins distribution is set in a way that x% is distributed to coin wallet (for developement) 54% in vote in which 10% of community take part ... I've already wrote that in official IDENA thread: 54% ... I would say "no consensus" rather than win because in statistics, we have something like a small sample error or statistical error, and this 4% is nothing more than that. I'm not surprised that it was not implemented. There are more important things now than satisfying 54% of network at the expense of going against 46%. There are things that will satisfy 100% of network (like sharding, mobile wallet, ledger support, option to encrypt wallet with password etc.)
Maybe it was 54:46 because both options are equally shitty and it is worth to repeat vote with additional option?
And whole event was hosted by discord admin not IDENA team. |
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...chyba zapomniales o tym slowie "nie"...  Ok już poprawione, dzięki. Powiem szczerze, że skopiowałem, któregoś posta z tego wątku, z tą kampanią i może coś źle wyciąłem. Bardzo trafna uwaga. Na początku nie było żadnej informacji od bestchange. Następnie pojawiły sie pytania i CM sprostował, że lokale go nie obchodzą. Stąd nieaktualny post. |
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Pozwolę sobie na małe przechwalanki. Pamiętam, że byłem jednym z niewielu byków odnośnie BTC, akcji itp. na początku marcowej paniki. Postów było sporo ale postanowiłem zebrać kilka Mam nadzieję, że nie jest to w złym smaku:) BTC za 4700$ Dołek na 3700 wygląda przerażająco. Ja jednak pozostaję byczo nastawiony, a zwłaszcza na tak niskich poziomach. Rynek najwyraźniej potrzebował takiego impulsu by strzepać z siebie słabe ręce. Nie wiem czemu, ale moje doświadczenie na rynku podpowiada mi, że jeszcze zobaczymy negację tego ruchu w najbliższych dniach. ... Ludzie sprzedający teraz BTC w strachu przed koronawirusem z powodów innych niż wypełnienie pustego talerza popełniają największy błąd w życiu. To własnie dziś bitcoin ma okazję pokazać swoją przewagę nad fiatami. Wychodzicie z waluty o ograniczonym supply do walut, które stoją na granicy hiperinflacji. plus token ma 1% supply bitcoina i stąd ten dump? FED właśnie wydrukował 1% dolarów ...Cóż z jednej strony to nic dziwnego i chyba mało kto miał złudzenia że w momencie kiedy wszystko leci na mordę kryptowaluty raptem okażą się stabilną przystanią... może podczas następnego kryzysu ale jeszcze nie dzisiaj.
Nie mów hop Na razie wszystko spada, bo ludzie boją się kryzysu. Jeśli go nie będzie to wracamy do normy, jeśli będzie to będzie trwał miesiącami zbierając miesiąc po miesiącu kolejne żniwa (upadające banki, wielkie spółki, kraje). To wtedy bitcoin pokaże swoje fundamenty. Na razie dostał strzał od spekulantów taki sam jak reszta rynków. Zastanawialiście się co będzie kolejną ofiarą zawirowań? OPEC+ był pierwszy i ropa spadła o 30% jednego dnia. Co potem? JP Morgan? a może całe Włochy? może jakieś skrzyżenie depozytów bankowych by łatać dziury w budżetach? Pomyślcie, że właśnie sprzedajecie bitcoina i na wasze konto wpada 1 mln zl a za miesiąc strzyżenie depozytów i wszystko powyżej 100k zostaje skonfiskowane... Czym jest 30% spadek ceny BTC wobec 90% spadku wartości portfela osoby trzymającej fiaty? BTC za 6500$ "Cyfrowy pieniążek" znosi lepiej panic sell niż indeks 500 największych amerykańskich spółek mimo, że kurs SP500 był wielokrotnie ratowany przez wstrzymanie handlu, nielimitowany dodruk FEDu.
Powiem więcej ... Nawet naszą lokalną walutę dotknął panic sell a bitcoin okazał się w 1/3 tak stabilny jak PLN, bo tam gdzie bitcoin spadł do dolara o 35% tam PLN o 12%
HODL!
Obecnie 10 000$ Obecnie obserwujemy krach giełowy ... zwiastun kryzysu. Podczas krachu zawsze dolar się umacnia. Kosztem wszystkiego ... nawet złota. Mówienie, że tylko dolar sprawdził się podczas kryzysu jest błędne. Podczas krachu sprawdza się dolar, podczas kryzysu sprawdza sie safe haven - do tej pory złoto.
Dolar już w odwrocie Czy nie jesteśmy przypadkiem świadkiem pierwszego krachu który dyskontuje cały strach w miesiąc a potem skupuje złe newsy? Sprawdza się to na pierwszych 2 danych, co będzie dalej zobaczy, ale ja lewituję w "nie mam pojęcia co będzie" mimo sporego stażu na giełdach. Calkiem możliwe, że jesteśmy na dnie mimo tego, że przez najbliższe pół roku będą napływać coraz gorsze dane.
Mam inne przeczucia . Ekonomia, którą znamy już dawno upadła. Cena akcji nie musi spadać by spadała ich wartość nabywcza. Tak było w 1964-1980. Podczas tych lat kurs SP500 szedł totalnie bokiem. Każdy inwestor niby nie był stratny a jednocześnie stracił ~60%-70%, bo siła nabywcza dolara o tyle spadła:
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Są to dane przerażające, które w dodatku wielokrotnie przekraczają szacunki analityków (czyli nie mogą być w cenie - poza wąskim gronem insiderów nikt nie spodziewał się aż tak złych danych). A jak je wycenia rynek ... już pisałem. Skupuje jak szalony.
Moim zdaniem SP500 może widzieć nowe ATH jeszcze w tym roku a potem korektę do obecnych poziomów i tak przez lata. Po prostu spadki się SP500 nikomu się nie opłacają. Amerykanie postrzegają wzrost kursów jako wzrost gospodarczy. Na rękę elitom jest dewaluacja (ukryte spadki kursów jak w 1964-1980 tylko w 5-10 lat a nie 16) niż spadki i przyznanie się do politycznej porażki.
SP500 z 2500 (2800 drugi post) do 3100 +24% (tylko 7% od ATH!) Wzrost cen akcji nie musi wiązać się ze wzrostem wartości i poprawą ekonomiczną kraju/spółki. Chcecie zobaczyć nasilniejszego byka ostantiego 1.5 roku? Wenezuelski indeks akcji (to robi hiperinflacja z kursem, to samo robi inflacja tylko w mniejszej skali):  z 800 do 346 000 w 1.5 roku +43 000% |
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Here it doesn't matter who is greedy or not.
If a situation/proposition was the subject of a vote, and one side won, the devs/team/system should implement the decision, no matter if you/they/anyone like it or not. I don't know the story but if what LaaMos Seeth said is true, that the winning side proposition wasn't implemented, then why they started a vote session in the first place?
Not talking about governance power and stuff. Simply don't do it, because if you do this, is like you said: "Let's vote! But if you win you'll loose anyway" - in other words - let's vote if you wish, as we will piss on the result anyway, because we can.
54% ... I would say "no consensus" rather than win because in statistics, we have something like a small sample error or statistical error, and this 4% is nothing more than that. I'm not surprised that it was not implemented. There are more important things now than satisfying 54% of network at the expense of going against 46%. There are things that will satisfy 100% of network (like sharding, mobile wallet, ledger support, option to encrypt wallet with password etc.) Maybe it was 54:46 because both options are equally shitty and it is worth to repeat vote with additional option? I personally prefer option A, because otherwise the network will be full of bad flips.
Let's say you are a human which has about 700 DNA as reward for the last validation. In the first scenario if you make 1 bad flip you will lose all your reward and next time will create better flips. In the second one you'll just lose 15 DNA, which is tiny 2% of your overall reward. You may even don't notice such a penalty and will continue to make bad flips.
If you want some trade off I would suggest the third option C:
C. 1 bad flip = 20% of overall reward unpaid instead of 1 flip reward unpaid like in option B. 20% means 1 flips out of 5 is bad. 40% means 2 out of 5 are bad, etc.
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My investment in bustadice is now doing great, I just get my dilution fee back to me and I am profiting out from it, next week I will edit the profit and subtract the 0.001 BTC there Correct if I'm wrong in here but: 0,05004101 - 0,04944497 = 0,00059604 in which 0,001 dilution fee is included? So net profit this week on bustatice was 0,00059604 - 0,001 = -0,00040396 ... another week on loss? Second in a row? Good thing that they returned investment fee. I thought it is not returnable. next week I will edit the profit and subtract the 0.001 BTC there I'ts in your investment wallet working for you or in regular bustadice wallet? If it is locked in your investment i would add it to base investment and change it from 0.49 to 0.5 because that was in fact your initial investment and this money are working for future profit. |
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Nie no zawsze znajdzie się jakiś raj. Nie ma takiej opcji, by nie było. Kiedyś sporo słyszałem o jakiś egzotycznych miejscach jako raj kryptowalutowy (Gibraltar czy coś), słyszałem też, że w innym miejscu koleś wbił flagę w jakieś wolne miejsce i założył tam krypto-kraj. Zawsze będzie gdzie się zarejestrować i dokąd uciec chcąc zarabiać miliony 1 algorytmem (bo tym nieraz są projekty kryptowalutowe). Poszukam linków i wrzucę.
Malta to nie jest jedyna opcja a tak często wybierana zapewne również dzięki lokalizacji.
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Yeah, this kind of sucks.
They should not have Invites, only members. Is enough they premined 36 Million coins.
This is greed.
I do agree that this account should not receive invitation rewards or it should be stated in WP what is a purpose of those coins and to who they belong. I think that those funds should, at least, be transferred to zero-wallet. Now regarding invitations: Its starting phase of project and lack of invitations was very visible during epochs 35-43 (people were paying for them) - This account invitations was really helpful than. Now it's not and as we can see person responsible for this account is sending less and less invitations. I think that current epoch will need a lot of help from this account to help all killed accounts get back to mining. This account is a security buffer for cases of excessive hype (epoch 35-43) or the current crisis. Note: The developers decided to hide the reward page for this account after members have been calling them out for keeping the invitation rewards.
You can still track them here (just change 45 in URL to any epoch you would like to check): https://scan.idena.io/epoch/45/rewards#distribution |
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Maybe you used Yolodice login and password on other service like exchange. I have a strategy in which i use same login and passowrd for shitty sites where i don't risk anything if it's compromised and super strong, always different password for services where i hold or will ever hold >5$. Once after registering on new exchange just to cash out 1 shitcoin airdrop i started to receive emails from almost every service where I used the same easy password. Looks like this exchange was recording users data and using it on other services to break in. Maybe that was your case? Did Yolodice said anything about no confirmation email, no logs?
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