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3041  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 29, 2022, 08:38:23 PM
Hello @notblox1,


Tornike (ampera) here once again. We would love to state the final decision regarding your case. Your account is fully unblocked and in case uploading the documents to complete the KYC procedure, you will be good to withdraw the funds as Fraud and Prevention department has already reviewed the history of the account and everything looks clear so to state again, there will be no problem in withdrawing the funds if deciding to complete the so-called 'Know Your Customer' procedure which was triggered randomly as per Terms of Conditions of FortuneJack. If you decide to do so, just keep us updated here and I will do my best to speed up the process for you.
My final decision regarding this case:
I wouldn't use fortunejack ever again even if you gave me a blank check and told me to enter any amount of money I want.
You betrayed my trust and wasted my time during last week, but I am glad everything is done legally and by the books for you.

Your decision based on terms and legal justification for randomly locking accounts and seizing funds from customers who didn't do anything suspicious is simply wrong.
Everyone should be aware or big risks dealing with this casino so  I decided to add fortunejack in my red list of casinos to avoid, and warn people not to use this website at all without passing kyc verification.



3042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... on: August 27, 2022, 06:33:26 PM
I said Demetrious Johnson is going to win this time, but this was spectacular KO win!
If you didn't watch this One championship event you can watch lead card on youtube and main event that was strange mostly stand-up fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae8ofcCYRuA

Extra information: UFC fans knows about ref Herb Dean and he is going to work in ONE from now on.
3043  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 27, 2022, 05:58:38 PM
This bastard @Hhampuz has already justified FortuneJack seizing 100k euros of my money, which is now a case a very respected lawyer is working on.
Please don't insult anyone and don't blame him for all your trouble.
I never had any problem with Hhampuz and I don't hold any grudge against him or anyone else.
I knew the risk using Fortunejack, and now I know not to trust them anymore.
I hope FJ legal team is happy.

For people who are acting smart with their comments, I will say again:
FJ forced me to verify for $200, in same time they blocked login access to their website, and refused to terminate my account.
If someone thinks that's ok, I don't know what else to say.
3044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... on: August 26, 2022, 05:00:05 PM
Lmao...  Anybody watching ONE FC right now?  This match between Elliott and Batur is great.  Cheesy  Two ripped heavy weights and they're quick.  Elliott knocked down Batur during the first few seconds of the match, like really dropped him but then the following shots kinda woke Batur up and on he went to win the match via ground and pound.
No I didn't watch it, but I am watching their youtube channel highlights and hoping they will broadcast live Adriano Moraes vs Demetrious Johnson.
My bet is on Johnson to win this rematch and he is light underdog, so odds are not bad at all.
There is no UFC or Bellator events this week, so One mainevent is best we can watch now.
3045  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 26, 2022, 03:47:04 PM
"advocating seizing of customers coins and defending casino" - yeah right, fuck off!
Thanks for being so polite... I didn't expect this from you, and you are the one being mad here, but I don't know why exactly Smiley

I say publicly that I won't accept 10mBTC peanut back and FJ can donate them to some good cause, or anywhere they want.
3046  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 26, 2022, 03:38:52 PM
You guys are off your rockers if you think they should enforce KYC on registration. You both know as well as I that it's simply not possible and will likely never happen.
I am not asking for that, but it would be much more fair than this trickery.

Not sure why you are so mad @notblox1, as you seemingly don't care about the "peanut money" yet you put up a bunch of warnings and spew this crap while not even having the patience to give them your time, lol.
I am not mad and I have patience because I talked with them behind the scenes.
I know you are promoting them in forum so you could be a bit bias maybe Wink but I only created one topic and today I added personal text after talking with ampera.
I can always show our conversations, details and proof, but I wont do that because I respect privacy.

Either way I'll eagerly wait for you and @yahoo62278 to advocate for this change on a global scale across casinos, fiat and crypto alike, to request KYC upon registration  Roll Eyes
I didn't expect you would advocate seizing of customers coins and defending casino without really knowing the whole story Wink
I will repeat, nobody was advocating for global kyc for all casinos.
3047  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 26, 2022, 02:50:45 PM
I think you need to help them and give them the time. They are following the usual procedures imo. I mean not letting you to login.
Help them how exactly?
Waiting is not going to help to both sides, and I don't care so much about damn 10mBTC.
My coins are being confiscated without any reason, and FJ legal team is scared they could be sued or arrested if they don't have my valuable documents for 10mBTC  or equivalent of $200  Cheesy
All this because they use some third party partner, and they now ask me to trust this third party, no way!
Unknown third party is now in control of FJ.

I feel like they shoukd have to pay the player his winnings and then ban the account once paid out as long as the win is legit.
I didn't even win anything or some big reward, not counting $50 free bet from Majestic7 I won't use, all I wanted is to send this coins to different casino for one bet.

I also feel like they should require kyc upon creation of the account. Deposits are disabled on all new accounts until kyc is passed if they are a casino that pushes kyc.

Deposits should also be disabled on all existing accounts until kyc is passed as well. This way Noone can be hit with the bullshit kyc later.

Yes a casino is going to lose customers because if this, but why not be 100% upfront with players vs trying  to fuck them in the end?
I agree totally with this, it looks like a scam behavior trying to trick and lure people to register and send money.
Roulette should be used in casino games, not for randomly asking members for kyc and seizing their coins.
Let's say I win some big money, I would accept any verification no problem, but out of principle I won't do it for peanut money.
Bottom line, FJ if you want to act like this than stop accepting registration without kyc and than I would know not to use your website.
3048  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 26, 2022, 11:18:52 AM
I think there could be an overlap between what Tornike/ampera stated and the email you received therefore give it a little time and see if Tornike/ampera can sort this out for you.
No I am not giving FJ any more time, they sadly proved they can't be trusted at all.
First they ask me for verification, but in same time they didn't allow me to login to my account.
Than I talked with Tornike ampera and my account magically gets open for login again, after that I asked support to terminate my account and donate my coins.
They don't want to do that and they are forcing me to reply to email, and for what? More talking?? Nah.
3049  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 26, 2022, 09:22:01 AM
[OP identified. We'll be replying soon with the decision.]

This is new email I received today:

Quote
Please,be  informed  that  You are obliged to submit to the Company all KYC and CDD documents requested by the Company during 14 (fourteen) calendar days after the request is made by the Company. If You do not meet the set deadline the Company shall have the right to block and terminate Your Account and confiscate all funds available on Your Account.

Since I didn't won any big amount of money ($10k Majestic was very close last week) and I didn't do anything suspicious, I won't pass kyc right now,
and if this is not resolved I will personally terminate my account myself before deadline and stop using Fortunejack.
I hope my 10mBTC will make someone from FJ happy, or just make donation to some people in need.

update:
Now I can't even log in to my account, so how am I suppose to do anything?!



3050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... on: August 25, 2022, 08:51:24 PM
And does anybody know if the ONE in Prime event would be streamed in ONE's Youtube's channel?
I am not sure, I was looking the same information yesterday and on watch.onefc.com they are asking for money to watch it  Cheesy
They did broadcast live weight-ins, ceremonial weight-ins and face-offs, so it's possible they will add main card recording on youtube later and broadcast prelims for free.
I want to watch Adriano Moraes vs Demetrious Johnson more than anything from that fight card.
3051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: EFL English Championship League 2022/2023 on: August 25, 2022, 08:43:04 PM
New round 6 of EFL Championship is starting tomorrow with twelve new matches, and one is scheduled for Friday, Luton vs Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield is favorite to win in this match and in H2H matches with Luton they never lost a match.
Both teams are missing some players with Sheffield having more problems, with with current form they can win against anyone.
They need to win if they want to stay on top of league, this is my main bet for this round and odds are fanatastic.
My Bets: Away win; Sheffield (0) asian handicap.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/england/championship/luton-town-v-sheffield-united-62fd111ed5ab63c5ef398ab6

Luton - Sheffield Utd
Sunderland - Norwich
Blackburn - Stoke
Blackpool - Bristol City
Cardiff - Preston
Huddersfield - West Brom
Hull - Coventry
Middlesbrough - Swansea
Millwall - Reading
Rotherham - Birmingham
Watford - QPR
Wigan - Burnley
3052  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: August 25, 2022, 08:25:03 PM
Champions League draw this evening, be interesting to see what groups get drawn. Hoping for an easier group for LFC, we might need it after our less than acceptable start to the season.

Who’s your money on to win the greatest trophy in European club football?
I think that Liverpool is in a good group with Rangers, Napoli and Ajax, they avoided much more dangerous teams for now.
Odds on Sportsbet website are favoring Manchester City to win the trophy, but Liverpool is just behind them with Bayern and PSG.
My bet is again on Real Madrid, they won most CL titles, now they are looking for title number 15, and they have very easy group.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/uefa-champions-league-22-23-62a5fea0d75a1515755217a3

Bayern, Barca and Inter in the same group, there will be one very unhappy club here and that will probably not be Bayern Smiley
Viktoria Plzen is going to be like that blonde girl meme surrounded with some big guys in white shirts Grin

3053  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fortunejack turning into KYC hell! on: August 25, 2022, 04:42:08 PM
Why don't you complete KYC first, and if after completing KYC you can't still withdraw, then you can now complain about any inconvenience and attempt to steal from you, as far as i know Fortunejack is not the only casino that requests for verification, if they have changed their policy to include it, i feel customers have to comply or choose another casino.
Because this is my right not to complete kyc and they are the one who made it possible for people to use their website like that.
If I wanted to do verification I would use casinos that doesn't give option to avoid kyc.

This case does not have enough proof for you to say Fortunejack does steal coins from people, because that is a serious allegation, the op of that topic has not provided strong evidence for any member to verify what they said.
I can easily show my account having zero balance, nothing showed in transaction history, and I am not some newbie member to made up fantasy claims.
I don't know what else to say than stolen coins when balance is zero and no withdraw transaction.
3054  Economy / Reputation / Fortunejack turning into KYC hell trap! on: August 25, 2022, 04:17:42 PM
I was a member of fortunejack website for years but recently they made some changes and they are becoming very strict with their KYC policy.
After trying to withdraw 10 mBTC to different casino I had to wait for hours and I received email asking me to complete kyc if I want to withdraw my coins.
I tried talking with Ampera Tornike but they ignore all my posts and messages in forum, and I talked with them before about some issues.
Support is acting like bots and they say team randomly decides to ask people for kyc without any explanations.
I know they can do whatever they want and it's justified by their terms, but ignoring and not talking with people is really low from them.

Situation is worse because they started to freeze accounts from people that had verified account with passed verification:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411165.0


It's strange that this is happening in the same time so I suggest everyone to stay away from fortunejack website.
With or without passing kyc you are at big risk of getting your account frozen, terminated and coins seized confiscated.
I don't know where Tornike is but this new Ampera guy is a joke (it's the same guy)!
If nothing changes this could ruin their reputation in forum.


3055  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Fortunejack scam me 400$ - !!! on: August 25, 2022, 04:05:54 PM
I would usually be suspicious about reports like this, but fortunejack frozen and stole my coins as well and they are forcing me to pass kyc verification.
They ignore my messages in forum, so I am going to start recommending all people to stay away from this website.
Your case deserves negative feedback and I don't support behavior like this.
OP Create red flag against fortunejack and I will support it.
3056  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 25, 2022, 10:16:07 AM
First of all, is it even possible to request 1mbtc withdrawal?
Minimum amount you can withdraw from fortunejack is 0.007 BTC and I think I had around 0.01 BTC in my account, so I made correction in my previous post from 1mBTC to 10mBTC.
I don't think it's good decision to ask people for kyc like this, they should make it mandatory and than I would know not to use fortunejack at all.
I didn't win $10k or more and I didn't abuse anything so I see no reason for doing this.

3057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... on: August 24, 2022, 10:12:08 PM
Did anyone watch last Dana White Contender Series?
He is starting to sign younger fighters and kids for UFC, and I am not sure this is a good idea.
This time five new fighters signed, Denise Gomes (22 year), Cameron Saaiman (21 year),Jesus Santos Aguilar (26), Darrius Flowers (27) and Michael Parkin (26).
I understand that he wants to secure future of UFC, but throwing 21 year old baby face boys and girls in octagon with other beasts is a scary thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBBw6qYNXWI
3058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: August 24, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
What Luke Rockhold did was reminding of the movie Fight Club hehehe. Watch what Tyler Durden was doing to the man after his face was beaten bloody.
I forgot about this scene but it looks very similar, and maybe he watched this famous movie before and he was inspired doing this.  Smiley

Amazing moment of history, and I managed to fall asleep! I'm interested to see how Usman performs after this. Never been knocked out I believe? That can make a fighter a little more cautious going forward, and Usman wasn't much of a risk taker to begin with. Are we going to see a more wrestling dominant approach from him from now on?
There are already talks of next fight going to be rematch and bookmakers set Usman as heavy favorite.
I think he learned his lesson and he won't allow mistakes happening again, but I have to give credits to Leon for that amazing kick that switched Usman light off.
Main advantage for Leon was his great coaching team, he even said after the fight how he was down but got inspired with coach speech and gave his best.

3059  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Sportsbook & Casino 🎲⚽ on: August 24, 2022, 09:46:44 PM
Two days have passed since I requested payment. I wrote to support Betnomi to find out the reason for the delay, but they said they had no information Sad
I also wrote to bitcointalk user betnomi.com, but even there I was not informed about the reason for the delay.
Again this long delay for withdrawal repeats for Betnomi, and I am not surprised they are still doing manual withdrawals.
Maybe try talking with support but you will have to wait for official stuff to reply something in forum.
One good thing about Betnomi is they are not so strict with kyc like some other casinos.
3060  Economy / Gambling / Re: Punt.com 🦵💸 | Crypto's Finest Casino | 0% Commission PvP Dice Duels 🚀 🎰 🎲 🔥 on: August 24, 2022, 09:38:46 PM
Welcome to Bitcointalk forum and good luck with new promotional campaign!
I like design of Punt website and it looks familiar with other gambling websites, but I want to ask when do you plan to add Sports betting?
Now there is only message Coming Soon when I click on Sports tab.
Can Punt be used without KYC verification and are there any limits?
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