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3041  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S3 Faulty Chips? on: October 05, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
Hmm... My average is now at almost 403, and my HW errors are at 1.37%.. I'm running at 225mhz.  I heard a while back that some units run better at the 218.75, so maybe I'll try that... Still, is there any hope for that chip that still has an "x"? Or is it totally gone?


it should work at 206 ,212 or 218

the early batch 1's  were not able to do over 218.

I have 2 of them mining as I type since july of 2014  they have been set at 212 and have been flawless for more then a year. a steady 425 hash rate day in and day out.

I still have a batch 1 in the basement running and it will not work right over the 218.75 setting and avg. 409 GH/S. This is the reason I never sold it on EBay as It was a dog compared to all the other S3 I sold and did not want a unhappy customer. (It has one x asic)

Meh, its still good, i would of taken it if i saw a good deal for it so i'm sure others would have too if posted on the marketplace here. Its probably still worth 50-60$ right now, so all in all, as long as it hash at the right J/GH, i still think its not a bad unit.
3042  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can't login to Antminer S3? (Black Screen Timeout) on: October 05, 2015, 12:31:50 AM
Yeah, browsers can be kinda stupid. Yesterday I had a Firefox instance insisting on connecting to http://xx.xx.xx.xx/minera when all I typed in was the IP, because the last thing there was a Pi running minera but now the IP was owned by a Tube controller. Took clearing the history to convince it not to automatically redirect to the erroneous location without apparent cause. SSH tends to not make assumptions about what the user wants and pretty much does exactly what it's told.

Chrome give me that when i try to connect to minera with x.x.x.x and doesn't even redirect to http;

Image here

Which is why i'm expecting this is a little derp more likely than units all deciding to be defective in a weird way. Could be something silly like the browser not being able to load the ssl certificate of the miner page or something. I don't know but i really doubt its really the miner.
3043  Other / Off-topic / Re: DO YOU HAVE 1 BITCOIN? on: October 05, 2015, 12:25:06 AM
This thread is full of DERP. :DD

Most people  have more than 1 but less than 50000. So¿

Tss don't be mean. Go back to asking Kano for pool reset, we're due for a lucky streak i say! Tongue JK
Most threads in Bitcoin Discussion board are just 90% of posts random generic reply at OP/title without any actual consistence to what was said before or will be said after.

But some of us like to actually target what we say toward something that was said before! I know that's strange, but its something called discussion and its not happening a lot on the DISCUSSION board. xD
3044  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S3 Faulty Chips? on: October 05, 2015, 12:22:28 AM
I tend to charge "what you think it's worth". Couple months ago I did some work on an S2 for a guy in exchange for his promise to buy four Compacs when they came out - which he was probably going to do anyway. I worked a year at a computer shop that charged $50 an hour for customer repairs, and I saw $8 of that. Without management overhead and a main-street storefront, $8's plenty.

But yeah, if you're outside the US there's probably not much I can do since shipping would be quite cost-prohibitive especially with no repair guarantee.

Typical consumers are stupid, and the "throw it away and get a new one" mentality was a deliberate cultural shift instigated by manufacturers who needed to secure continued profits from continued sales, and then used it as an excuse to manufacture lower-quality goods with a short functional lifetime. I think we deserve better.

I think so too, but in this situation, i'm not expecting shipping to be under 20-25$, forth and then again back. And also labor/repair cost.
With delays and no garantee.

I might be better off just finding someone who which to buy it for cheap and ship it at their cost. Then put that money toward finding someone else in a similar situation where they wish to sell me their one working blade. Hence... get rid of it and get a new one, which is sad considering how much waste we produce. But anyways.

I doubt the chips on the board are dead so maybe someone out there is looking to extract S5's chips.

This is outside my expertise by far, but i can easily conceptualize someone doing so for a project or maybe even for profit if they just need to lay those chips on a working PCB.
3045  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can't login to Antminer S3? (Black Screen Timeout) on: October 05, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
I believe the S5 was the first Bitmain machine which defauted to DHCP. I was really glad to see that change in the stock config.

Very strange that they won't reset to defaults. I remember the S1 required a power-cycle after pushing the reset buttong, but I haven't had to reset near as many S3 so I don't recall their operating specifics and it sounds like you have that well understood. Definitely very strange. SSH is good advice; if nothing else, you can pull up the shell scripts to start cgminer and see if you can get them running without a working webconfig.

Thats what i was thinking to suggest in effect if it comes to that, but i'm always assuming its a simple quirk or wrong IP or something as silly a the web browser having some issue connecting to the miner's webserver page for some whatever reason.

If it comes to that, the miner could be mostly controlled with M's Miner Monitor, which is how i monitor mine anyways.
3046  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Antminer S5 - Canada on: October 05, 2015, 12:13:28 AM
User still hasn't logged back in since he accepted my offer in PM. I'm guessing cryptolance is insanely busy. But patience is a virtue and all that jazz.

Glad to hear you got it.
Let me know if you want me to pick it up for you next weekend. I'm guessing you will get it by XpressPost before then.

Well he accepted my offer on 29th of September. But i am still waiting. I just was wondering how much information on our private dealings i wanted to post here. To not give ammo to scammers or just create an awkward situation with cryptolance.

But it was bothering me that people were literally calling him a scammer for not replying to their escrowed offers.
3047  Other / Off-topic / Re: DO YOU HAVE 1 BITCOIN? on: October 05, 2015, 12:03:07 AM

Well you still need to be careful. For instance from the domain of public information available to anyone, i can tell you have 0.43226892 BTC stored online in your Bit-x BTC1 wallet address.


Schweet. I'd better gamble that away ASAP in solidarity with everyone else on here.

I think you'll be fine, but if you had 3million BTC in cold storage connected to output from that address, then your secret would be revealed that you are actually Satoshi Nakamoto. Tongue

Just a thing to keep in mind when you're trying to hide your balance.
3048  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Antminer S5 - Canada on: October 05, 2015, 12:00:49 AM
User still hasn't logged back in since he accepted my offer in PM. I'm guessing cryptolance is insanely busy. But patience is a virtue and all that jazz.
3049  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can't login to Antminer S3? (Black Screen Timeout) on: October 04, 2015, 11:59:06 PM
@sidehack, no matter what I do, the miner will not reset back to factory default, which is always 192.168.1.99, to my knowledge. And yeah, I've even had to move miners for a few months temporarily and totally reconfigure them for a 10.0.0.1 network. I actually switched those two back, just three days ago. These are different units, but I definitely know how to get into the miners under normal circumstances is my point, I guess.

I do have Putty on my computer already from a while ago, so I'll give that a shot... I believe I just type in the miner? Well, regardless, I'll try to get this sorted out. Hopefully that helps me.


When i factory resetted my S5, it was still on DHCP, maybe its only S3's that revert back to startic ip at .99? Anyways.

You will just enter the IP. The port will be 22 which is already set by default. Then the user is root and the password is either root or admin. Its admin on S4/S5 at least. And you should be able to see a list of all device connected to your router, on your router, to see which IP its tied to at the moment.
3050  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5+ is available to order, 7.722TH/S 0.445J/GH on: October 04, 2015, 11:56:35 PM

You do not recommend using S5+ blades with S5 controller with S5 software or S5+ software? One second you say S5 software is bad and the next you say S5+ software is bad.

Are they both bad?

The post you sent me, he says they run at 2.2th. If they ran at 2.7TH it would possibly be worth it. Since i used 2.2TH for the math. While i did 2.6TH for 2*S5 for 2.2BTC~ That is the price i been picking up parts at, around 1BTC for a whole s5. Or 250$~

And i am in Québec, but the tax isin't applicable if the seller pick value = 1$ for electronic parts. Regardless the seller does not wish to ship outside the US. So i need to find something else.

6 blades average after 3 day  5,114.68  freg 325
at 350 it is more  Grin

And yes, both software with S5 controller may be bad with S5+. I have 3 overheated S5+ blades in China. I still do not know what happened, since the second power supply switched off from over heating and rescued four blades.

But I've seen it before with water cooled S5 at temp 130 krad Celsius.  I was hoping that this error is corrected by S5+ software.


I think it sucks but I think you got a dud.   I think it is more then just software with it being on it's 3rd blade.   Just is a lot of bad to happen to one unit.

I still am running along with my S5+ happily with no issues.   It runs and runs for weeks without touching it.  I don't know if it helps but something with my mining area is a lot of CFM's of air going through my miners from big fans pushing that hot air away. 

That is only thing I have done that not everyone would have.  But mine has not had any issues besides hardware errors.  Somehow they messed up the equation with HW errors and when I run for long periods with very little hw errors it shows a very very small negative which is impossible.

Well if i get a 1/3rd of a already working and used S5+, hopefully i won't run into the issues Tupsu did. I'm just guessing the odds of getting 1/3rd of a S5+ without a controller for a good price, comparable to just getting some S5's is a bit low. Especially since the deal is killed if the person is outside NA, most likely.

If someone selling parts of a S5+ wanted a quick sale and eat the shipping cost and declared it was worth very little, just parts, it would probably then be worth buying from the US. But there is an awful lots of Americans that don,t want to fill that little form for clearing customs.
3051  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S3 Faulty Chips? on: October 04, 2015, 11:50:22 PM
I don't really have a budget for buying dead hardware and reviving it, but I could take a look at some if you wanted to send it. If I can't get it working you'd only be out the cost of mailing. I've been out of the formal repairs loop for a generation or two but that's mostly because nobody's asked.

If i was in the US, having someone else take a look, in the US, would probably be worth a try. But if i find a replacement PCB to socket in instead of that one, maybe i'll strip it down and offer it for sale and if i can't just send it to you.

Its just typically more efficient to save your time and buy a new one, sadly. I'd probably have to find someone that want to make a project out of it more than a profit, since typically it would cost more in time than just save your time and fix the issue the typical consumer's way. (Throw it away and get a new one)
3052  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A new poll for product warranties Bitmain on: October 04, 2015, 11:43:47 PM
This is a silly question, of course everyone wants longer warranties but its not always practical. You make a finite number of miners in a finite number of batches. You keep a small number of parts to fix future miners. Having to repair miners far beyond their useful lifetimes means everyone is paying for 0.2 miners + labour + shipping alongside their miner.

That would be my fear it is something customers would still be paying for.  It would be tacked on at time of sale on the sales price.  So assuming you have no issues in X extra day's you paid more then you would have had. If somehow you have a bad unit yes this would be great for you.  But bitmain is not going to eat a cost like this.

It's just a different type of product.  The asic world moves fast.  They are looking twords future in most cases and not "old" miners for lack of better term.  If you expect warranty like a GPU for example, it just is not going to happen.

Bitmain could still have a better replacement system. For instance they can and they do run the "outdated hardware" in their own mines for an extended period of time. We know that they keep some, since we know they still have some S2's. Since they can ship them out.

So they could easily have a portion of the miners alloted to stripping down for parts when needed. For instance if its within the 3 month garante, you could maybe send a picture proof and get a replacement shipped.

Having to ship the unit and wait for it to come back often mean you might as well just buy a new one, which is ridiculous.

Then when the warranty is expired, you should still be able to buy S5's parts, where they will go to their mine, grab a miner and strip it down and sell you the part individually. They CAN do this, since again, we know they still have S5's and pretty much everything for more than 1 year after a miner is out of stock.

I just don't think we should be expecting to be covered for free for more than 3 months. I'm just thinking Bitmain's work ethics and customer service post sale for people with defective units is poor at best.
3053  Other / Off-topic / Re: DO YOU HAVE 1 BITCOIN? on: October 04, 2015, 11:38:46 PM

Don't take so much these answers by heart. I think there is a lot of trolling in many of these user's answers. This thread is not to take seriously at all in my opinion when evaluating current Bitcoin holdings by users.

I even think that some people are having fun by just writing random numbers and random crap now and then!

There's obviously no way of knowing, but I gotta say I wouldn't be surprised if most people are being truthful or even bigging up their modest stash.

Well you still need to be careful. For instance from the domain of public information available to anyone, i can tell you have 0.43226892 BTC stored online in your Bit-x BTC1 wallet address.

And then in a typical transaction, you can explore linked transactions to an address and see that in total, the user has sent for example 100BTC over time to an address that has never seen any withdraws. So you can tell its probably in cold storage.

With enough digging and with social engineering, its totally possible to go after someone starting with public information, so again; you still need to be careful.
3054  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: good places to hide paper wallet ? on: October 04, 2015, 11:34:53 PM

It is not pointless, it has nothing to do with the public address and we wouldn't be using SHA256d to store our priv key and your public address is NOT your priv key in SHA256d, it is not decryptable, it is not possible to decrypt your public address into your private address.

But it is possible to encrypt it, your private key with encryption algorithm and just password it, like thisismyuncrackablepassword.

And then you only need to when you want to get your money is run the output that you printed on a piece of paper or stored in a usb key, load this in the encryption application and input your password.

You can do a puzzle if you want to go fancy but you're still going to need redundancy. If you lose a part and you don't have other copies, you're fucked, so either way you need a master copy, safe somewhere.

And there is no better way to hide a priv key than the same way your BTC are protected by it; by being hidden behind a hash that cannot be bruteforced.

The puzzle thing is probably a good idea if you want your kids to go through a puzzle to get their BTC/allowance or something. But if you want to keep it secured, obfuscation is the way to go. Not hidding the privkey naked in your socks.

Sorry but you dont get it, i was using an example to illustrate.

I was saying that an AES256d private key is just the same as a naked private key, because then you would need to memorize the AES 256 key, so you are back at square 1 because you still have a password to secure.

So its the same to write down a bitcoin private key and hide it under your pillow, than a AES256 encryption key of the bitcoin private key under your pillow.

So this makes no sense.

=======================

Yes also the more pieces you have the better obfuscation, but the higher risk of 1 being lost you lose access.

You need to weight that risk in.

 You can put 1 key under your pillow and you know its there, but if a burglar takes it he can acces the bitcoins.

Or you can split it in 4 pieces, hide in different places ,and the burglar only takes 2 of them so he wont have access. But now you wont have access either Cheesy



No. You don't need an encryption key to encrypt something. Encryption software will generate it for you out of a password. So you can store an encryption key with a password as simple a "1234" you absolutely do not need a bulky encryption key.

It's an added level of obfuscation that is very easy to do and undo. If this does not make sense to you, then it is because you do not know how easy to use it is.
3055  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Avalon 6 Vs Antminer S7, which one you will choose? on: October 04, 2015, 11:30:06 PM
Really hope this and more company can free us from bitmain's monopoly.

The real question is when? There's no point if they don't release it soon. But if they do it will lower the price of S7's too, which would be good for the consumer regardless.
The 4.1 was nice and quiet however, so there might be interest in ditching the S7 and going with Avalon until Bitmain raise the quality of their hardware for the home oriented user...

I don't know that they have a quality problem really.   They had one where S7 some did not get full spec but they seem to have found how to fix it as they now have a batch of faster, and a batch of slower.   

But overall they ship a TON of home miners and yes there are complaints.   But people who are happy post less then someone with an issue.  So I think what  your seeing on the board is a tad twords the "bad" side of their production.

Well when i say that, i'm thinking about the cheap thermal dissipation design. Albeit better in the new S7 form factor.
The software being rickety at best and important feature are left out on purpose. For example, they removed Volt control on S4 in later firmware while its possible to hack it back in and it work just fine.
The software is ultimately low end, not very good. Compare it to the SP20.
The noise is bad, compare to Avalon 4.1, although with the fan control and low ambient temp, its not that bad, just not excellent.
The plugs are on top of the miner, so its harder to stack, if all the inputs were behind, they would be more manageable. Again this is worse with the S5 and i'm not sure with the S7, but still. Compare it to the other mentioned miners.
3056  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is it worth mining? on: October 04, 2015, 11:23:15 PM
I think you might have more luck mining some altcoins rather than Bitcoin to make any profit.

What gear do you suggest doing this with?   Mining altcoins is much easier said then done.

Most of R/D goes into bitcoin (sha) miners.  The best chance of ROI is likely with a btc asic not some old scrypt asic.

If you have free electricity, you could safely go with a proper rig of GPUs, but this discussion belong in another forum section.

So for the limit of this topic, the only way to go is ASIC, the question is which ASIC which raise the following questions;

Your location;
Outside Temp;
Housing condition;
Electricity cost;
Electricity grid capacity
3057  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: good places to hide paper wallet ? on: October 04, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
Laminate your paper wallet up to water proof. Then put it down into a fisher tank. No one will check your fisher tank for your bitcoins. You can watch your paper wallet while you are watching and enjoying your fish drivings.

Well now that you have said it, they will...

I dont understand why would people make a thread like this, it will blow everybody's best hiding places.

Seriously, guys you are exposing yourselves this way, and if a burglar would look for your bitcoins , now they would know where. It's not a good idea to expose hiding places...  Huh

Because people don't understand that the answer is not where but HOW. You can just encrypt the privkey and print it to a piece of paper. If someone find it, and its really hard to find a single small piece of paper. Then they will still take 1 billion years to decrypt it.

GG. Hide with your brain, not with your eyes.

But an encrypted version of the private key exactly the public key. So it would be like writing down the bitcoin address not the priv key, which makes no sense.

You still need to memorize the private key and write it down to another piece of paper, which then creates 2 important pieces of paper and double the risk that if any gets lost you lose access to the money.



No, the public key is a derivative that cannot be reverse engineered. I'm talking about actual/real encryption of file/data here. For instance like TrueCrypt. You do need a password to decrypt it, or a encryption/decryption key. And you need to know how you encrypted it. Only you should know so thats even more security.

You could for instance hide the decryption key appart, or in a safety box.

Or just password it.

And you don't have double the risk to lose your coins because if you have only a single copy, you're doing it wrong from the start.

Yes i understand that, but i mean that is is pointless. It is like writing down your bitcoin address on a piece of paper whih is pointless because we want the private key secured not the address, that is already public.

And if you encrypt the private key with lets say AES-256 then you need another private key to memorize which is back where we started, because this doesnt add extra security to it, as anybody who would know the AES key would also know the bitcoin private key.

So it makes no sense at all.

What you can do instead if break the private key in 4 pieces, number them, and hide them  in separate places, like puzzle pieces.

It is not pointless, it has nothing to do with the public address and we wouldn't be using SHA256d to store our priv key and your public address is NOT your priv key in SHA256d, it is not decryptable, it is not possible to decrypt your public address into your private address.

But it is possible to encrypt it, your private key with encryption algorithm and just password it, like thisismyuncrackablepassword.

And then you only need to when you want to get your money is run the output that you printed on a piece of paper or stored in a usb key, load this in the encryption application and input your password.

You can do a puzzle if you want to go fancy but you're still going to need redundancy. If you lose a part and you don't have other copies, you're fucked, so either way you need a master copy, safe somewhere.

And there is no better way to hide a priv key than the same way your BTC are protected by it; by being hidden behind a hash that cannot be bruteforced.

The puzzle thing is probably a good idea if you want your kids to go through a puzzle to get their BTC/allowance or something. But if you want to keep it secured, obfuscation is the way to go. Not hidding the privkey naked in your socks.
3058  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT an MLM kind of ponzi on: October 04, 2015, 11:08:42 PM
There are still people's who think if bitcoin is ponzi scheme, they not understand about bitcoin basically and just judge without thinking/understanding.

*snip*
Buy--> Use = No profit no lose when used as money
Buy-->Hold-->Use = Big profit,NO Lose. Profit only when used as investment.

I like this.

There are still people's who think a few milleniar ago, there was Adam and Eve and she bit in an Apple because a snake say so. Or that the earth is flat or Canadians live in igloos. Better just forgot about it, imo.

If that is so, then anything is possible.

Bitcoin could go to 1000000000000$ easily, good things need to happen more often, not just bad ones...

Well, its not possible for bitcoin to reach 1 million USD, let alone one quadrillion USD. Gotta keep within limits of reality, which this is not. But it would be possible for it to reach 1k to 10k USD in our lifetime. 100k USD is also impossible.

If the USD would be hyperinflated then it would be possible.

1 BTC =2,381,724,241,311,967,700.00 ZWR (Zimbabwe dollar)

So if you live in Zimbabwe and hold 1  BTC you are a Quadrillionaire Cheesy Cheesy

Well, then yes, it would be possible. I'm assuming USD's PPP remain in a normal growth, with a normal inflation. If the US collapse and stop existing then sure, but then USD is no longer a barometer and people aren't any richer than now if they own a Quadrillion USD. Tongue

Just that at the current buying power of the USD, there is no way for BTC to reach 1million, that would be BTC would have a market cap of somewhere near the total global economy of every nations, or more.
3059  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: good places to hide paper wallet ? on: October 04, 2015, 11:06:11 PM
I am searching for a good place to hide my paper wallet
i don't want any one to see it or try to scan the QR code
please don't give me silly places, I really want to hide it in secure place

Having a tough time hiding paper is one of the reasons BTC is popular. I'm not sure how redundant the answer "Safety Deposit Box" is, but I'll leave it here regardless.

You can leave it in the shoe-box where you hide your drugs.
You can laminate it and stick it in your sock, carrying it with you everywhere you go.
You can wear a cup and stick it in there.
You can stash it inside an old-computer case.
You can stick it down the barrel of an out-of-commission firearm and retrieving it with pipe-cleaner(s)/dis-assembly.
Under an old floor-board, inside a picture-frame, behind the actual picture.
Stick it over the batteries, but inside the battery-case on your game-boy.
Laminate it, dip it in wax repeatedly until it forms a Candle-shape and then stick it in a box.
It's a piece of paper, and you literally could put it anywhere.

You can think of your own unique place, because the best things are self-taught, self-suggested and self-maintained.

I'd go with "Hide in plain sight" if people don't know and don't have the instruction on what to do with the alphanumerical series that is in front of them, then its as safe as inside the safest of vault. And if a location get compromised, you should have another one.

Don't forget redundancy, you're not hiding a pile of gold here, you're hiding a digital key that can be kept in one million copy if you need to.
3060  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: good places to hide paper wallet ? on: October 04, 2015, 11:03:18 PM
Laminate your paper wallet up to water proof. Then put it down into a fisher tank. No one will check your fisher tank for your bitcoins. You can watch your paper wallet while you are watching and enjoying your fish drivings.

Well now that you have said it, they will...

I dont understand why would people make a thread like this, it will blow everybody's best hiding places.

Seriously, guys you are exposing yourselves this way, and if a burglar would look for your bitcoins , now they would know where. It's not a good idea to expose hiding places...  Huh

Because people don't understand that the answer is not where but HOW. You can just encrypt the privkey and print it to a piece of paper. If someone find it, and its really hard to find a single small piece of paper. Then they will still take 1 billion years to decrypt it.

GG. Hide with your brain, not with your eyes.

But an encrypted version of the private key exactly the public key. So it would be like writing down the bitcoin address not the priv key, which makes no sense.

You still need to memorize the private key and write it down to another piece of paper, which then creates 2 important pieces of paper and double the risk that if any gets lost you lose access to the money.



No, the public key is a derivative that cannot be reverse engineered. I'm talking about actual/real encryption of file/data here. For instance like TrueCrypt. You do need a password to decrypt it, or a encryption/decryption key. And you need to know how you encrypted it. Only you should know so thats even more security.

You could for instance hide the decryption key appart, or in a safety box.

Or just password it.

And you don't have double the risk to lose your coins because if you have only a single copy, you're doing it wrong from the start.
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