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3041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 05:27:41 PM
I said "that's it, I'd rather die than do this for another day," and I switched to self-employment afterward.

It hasn't been a cakewalk but I'm happy knowing I will never step foot in a cubicle ever again, working for completely corrupted fuckheads who value money over human life.

Welcome to the free world. Congratulations.

Yeah, I am kind of the opposite of that, I guess.  Was a performing drummer, and studio owner for decades before accidentally getting into what I do now.  It's definitely a gilded cage.
3042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 05:26:01 PM
I have no doubt that your points above are valid.  And also believe COVID is being used to financial advantage by various medical institutions.

That said, I currently work for one of the largest non profit healthcare systems in the US. 

BCBS... ah you poor bastard  Cheesy  Maybe its KP, either way... I hated everything about that industry. Fully rotten to the core. After getting fired for not backing down on a case against a fraudulent ophthalmologist who was billing the insurance plan for botox done on her crooked doctor pals, it took me one final job working for a vastly overpricing specialty drug insurance company before I said "that's it, I'd rather die than do this for another day," and I switched to self-employment afterward.

It hasn't been a cakewalk but I'm happy knowing I will never step foot in a cubicle ever again, working for completely corrupted fuckheads who value money over human life.

I do not know how it is looking for other (especially large) systems but we are burning cash at a stupefying rate and COVID is not a net help to our bottom line.

And you know as well as I that the solution for that is increased premiums. Its not like the execs are going to suddenly take a paycut, and there likely won't be many (if any) layoffs involved. Its been this way for about 3 decades now.

It is cataclysmic.

Perhaps, but you are still an "essential employee", so there's that at least.

I do not work for a payor, but a hospital system.  And I am a highly specialized EHR analyst.  I am certainly replaceable, but we are sort of a rare breed.  Good ones even rarer.  I get to work 100% remote.  If bitcoin can do one more bull run, even if it's not as ridiculous as the previous ones, then I will go back to the business I worked in for most of my life which is music.  But until then healthcare pays well enough that I can send my children to college (which is an EQUALLY screwed up industry).  Music is a hard way to make money.  Well let me correct that.  It is an EASY way for *me* to make money, but not an easy way to make the KIND of money my current job allows. Wink
3043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 04:39:19 PM
Ok, however insurance companies have a vested interest to pay out as little as possible, so if a hospital was doing this they would be nailed to a cross in short order. I doubt the value increased would offset the risks taken so probably not.

Not true. They just pass on the costs to their customers in the form of increased premiums. I worked in the anti-fraud division of a major health insurer for a number of years. It was depressing to see exactly how much hospitals can get away with and how little the insurance companies are willing to do about it. There's a lot of dynamics at play here, like hospital physicians sitting on the medical boards of the insurance companies. The insurance companies have no interest to pay out as little as possible, I promise you.

Overall I'd call bullshit on the assertion that (US) hospitals are false reporting cases for profit. It doesn't benefit the hospital, people with vested interests are watching, and the government is *very* invested in lower numbers anyway.

Of course it benefits the hospital as its extra revenue, and that's what American hospitals are all about. The entire system has been unchecked for far too long, which is why American health insurance is in the abysmal state it currently is.

Obama tried to make a dent in the problem but was met with fierce opposition from insurance lobbyists. The bullet in the foot of Obamacare was the lack of a public option. Without that component, insurance companies have no reason to remain honest about anything. Neither do the hospitals.

I have no doubt that your points above are valid.  And also believe COVID is being used to financial advantage by various medical institutions.

That said, I currently work for one of the largest non profit healthcare systems in the US.  I do not know how it is looking for other (especially large) systems but we are burning cash at a stupefying rate and COVID is not a net help to our bottom line. 

In fact I believe we are in the 9 (and maybe 10 by this point) figure RED in lost revenues for 2020 so far. This is primarily caused by the fact we are having to cancel all "non essential" services.  In May, I think, I took a bike ride by one of our largest Entities.  The ED, and the L&D had action, but the ENTIRE REST of the campus was a ghost town.  I rode up and down several multi story parking decks, usually full to bursting that were entirely ghost-towns. no one there.

It is cataclysmic.
3044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 04:30:43 PM

We have no such made-up tragedy or dilemma in bitcoin.

Accordingly the above snapshot remains misleading (and likely meaningless) as fuck in terms of what it is telling us about how bitcoin and stocks are moving similarly over a period of 2-3 months.

Who gives any fucks about that? including the idea of short term coincidental correlation.

You really believe we should be allowing this kind of white noise bulllshit news affect our thinkenings about bitcoin fundamentals or its possible future price performance, whether we are considering in the coming months or couple of years or even in terms of 4 year fractals or whatever longer time periods?

Zoom the fuck out!!!!!

 Tongue


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Why do you criticize so much?  And read so much into what someone types?

My thoughts on this are simple.

Money is being printed like never in the history of the world.
Boomers (Mostly fund managers and up) are shoveling it into stonks.
Stonks benefit more from money printing than corn.

When boomers actually catch the digital gold meme they will start shoveling their excess money into corn.

There are no tragedies, or dilemmas.  Nor major proclamations.
But during this historically interesting time of extreme monetary stimulus we are clearly seeing Nasdaq and gold benefit more than the new kid on the block.

That is boomers.  Plain and simple.  That's why the beneficiaries are gold and stocks.

The fact is they have 80% of the money.  At some point they will reach a knowledge tipping point and start shoveling our way.  The extra smart ones have started already.

This is the herd we have been waiting for for years.

To me that hypothesis is extremely strong, and bullish.
3045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 02:30:50 PM
This seems wrong.



It really might be the boomers who eventually cause this to flip.  It is they who are keeping the market ponzis rolling.
3046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 02:27:58 PM
AI generated tweets using OpenAI's GPT-3 model:
https://thoughts.sushant-kumar.com/bitcoin

/thread

Best magic 8 ball ever.

3047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2020, 02:22:34 PM
The changes BSV makes to the protocol will inevitably centralize the protocol,

You'll need to be more specific. Which changes exactly are you speaking of?

I certainly hope we are not headed down some semantic rabbit hole about who changed what... but...

The most obvious change.  They have taken the big block ethos to it's end.  They did not only lift block size limitations, but the community has been building applications and uses that encourage as much use of the blockchain as possible.  They ridicule the BTC camp for it's Raspberry Pi nodes and have embraced the idea that nodes (which for them are de facto miners) will be big server farms pushing the boundaries of storage space, network bandwidth and computational resources.

Not only that, but the leaders of this have also pushed forth the idea that censorship resistance was never part of Bitcoin, and that it will be safe for blockchain maintenance to be handled by the anointed few partly because the blockchain will then also be subject to rollbacks, and censorship in cooperation with governments.

I am aware the Satoshi posted on this forum about mining being specialized hardware in server farms etc (I was a lurker back then).  But he also talked about people becoming vigilant about space/bandwith/cpu requirements in the future.  I also never read that he had begun to see that mining and consensus/verification would become two distinct things that could split into specialized groups.  I think Hal got that (and therefore possibly SN too?)   But Satoshi seemed to be of more than one opinion about how mining/consensus would evolve.  But what he did not seem to be two minds on is trust minimization, censorship resistance, and the need to avoid trusted third parties.

And those foundational blocks of Bitcoin are being cheerfully removed by the BSV camp.

I see it talked about very infrequently, but ui do believe one of the reasons for this is there are people who are attempting to use the courts to end up forcing a legal precedent for the keys to the early Satoshi block rewards to be handed over to them by force.  They hope for this to be done on the BTC chain, but they will at LEAST eventually achieve this on BSV.

The whole thing is a giant cluster, and the fact someone as smart as you can ignore the giant problems and warning bells here both amazes and concerns me.
3048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2020, 01:58:59 AM

I am going to have to solicit batman, spiderman, some ficticious avatar, or maybe even vegeta (himself/herself) to slap ur lil selfie (aka smartass), at some point based on your seeminlyg false alarmenings of the WO thread members regarding bare minimum vegeta requirements.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




 Tongue


You know nothing Juan Snow..


If you look closely at the first image and at the lagging span it looks like a polar bear head pointing downwards..hence the play on words about a bear poking hes/her head over the side of a boat. The second image has the candles coming from the top of the cloud to the bottom..hence jump the hedge..

Not all that alarming imo so bring it on...rawr!


Merit for "You know nothing Juan Snow".  Lol.


3049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2020, 01:55:21 AM
It’s that time in the cycle again, right?

 Grin

Indeed so.  And it's worse this time... wonder what that means?
3050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2020, 01:04:10 AM
I think we should now leave Bob alone for a bit.


In case of still any doubt @jack likes Bitcoin:
https://twitter.com/jack/status/1283169859233214465

(and of all the things that could be mentioned in his likely often viewed Twitter profile is #bitcoin BTC)

The issue with Jack at this point is his divisive status in his own company.  He has enemies on the board, and this latest hack is not going to bode will for him personally, I am afraid.
3051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2020, 02:25:18 AM
Jeez, what happened? Such a page crash I've never seen in WO before! Several hudred pages I think. Are we under a hacker attack? Are all old posts SAFU?

bob deleting his posts for reasons

ive never noticed the page count really. guess thats just me

No, actually it's me too.

That said, when it hits major milestones I might perk up about it...
3052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2020, 12:27:32 AM
Good evening brothers!
Observing @ $9,178

Can anyone educate me with Bob and JJG incidence. Other day I saw bob was asking how to delete an account. First I thought it was a Bob jokes but then I saw some word exchange between bob and JJG.

I am not sure that JJG was the cause.  Maybe... but I do think it had something to do with BLM social unrest disagreement?  Not sure.

Huge loss though.  I think of him as part of the WO's soul.

Hopefully he will come back after a good cooldown.

I wrote a script to delete everything off twitter once...
3053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2020, 06:39:50 PM
FWIW, what I think jbreher is saying, is that BTC and BSV can both potentially be equally decentralized. In other words, the algorithms themselves allow for the same amount of decentralization.

However, BTC is currently far more popular/dominant than BSV, and this currently gives it a higher amount of decentralization. But this is not due to the algorithm itself, but due to popularity/dominance, which could potentially change in the future.

Well, I don't believe it will, for several reasons which have been discussed many times here in WO, but that's essentially what jbreher is saying.

The changes BSV makes to the protocol will inevitably centralize the protocol, and this is being touted as a feature, not a bug by the leaders.

Quote from: Craig Wright
Bitcoin is not and has never been about ‘censorship resistance’. I added the alert key to be able to freeze and reverse transactions, if needed. All that matters in Bitcoin is a public record of any transaction that is reversed.

That vision is NOT decentralized. 

Period.

Cause there is nothing such as decentralized

There is only open to join mining an compete for incentives, nobody should ever change the rules

And with incentives there is responsibility and nothing out of law

But meh

That's a red herring.

That's like saying the kitchen table is never perfectly clean, so I might as well take a huge steaming dump on it.

The goal is to move as far in the decentralized direction as possible.  Perhaps like "trust minimized" we should say "centralization minimization".

But I do not know why I am talking to you.  You are just parroting the talking points of your puppet masters.
3054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2020, 04:00:21 PM
FWIW, what I think jbreher is saying, is that BTC and BSV can both potentially be equally decentralized. In other words, the algorithms themselves allow for the same amount of decentralization.

However, BTC is currently far more popular/dominant than BSV, and this currently gives it a higher amount of decentralization. But this is not due to the algorithm itself, but due to popularity/dominance, which could potentially change in the future.

Well, I don't believe it will, for several reasons which have been discussed many times here in WO, but that's essentially what jbreher is saying.

The changes BSV makes to the protocol will inevitably centralize the protocol, and this is being touted as a feature, not a bug by the leaders.

Quote from: Craig Wright
Bitcoin is not and has never been about ‘censorship resistance’. I added the alert key to be able to freeze and reverse transactions, if needed. All that matters in Bitcoin is a public record of any transaction that is reversed.

That vision is NOT decentralized. 

Period.
3055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 16, 2020, 01:46:30 PM
Did we get a little bart out of it?



I would assume the Owners of Morphtoken, and the traders on Bisq are also seeing a bit of an uptick.

The further we go, the more absolutely ridiculous it is for Monero to continue to be this ignored.

No altcoin narrative comes CLOSE to the reality of Monero's fundamentals.

DeFi (whatever that even is) is where all the lemming energy is currently focused.  But all the while real action is happening here.

I guarantee one thing.  Governements have already been planning their attack.  Because this tool is WAY more powerful than they can contain.  It is possible that the wiser among them have also realized that an attack on Monero would only serve to legitimize it.

Most of "crypto" is made of alt casinos, and Rube Goldberg perpetual motion machines. But there are two narratives that actually matter in my opinion:

- perfect digital scarcity with censorship resistant value storage and exchange while limiting trusted third parties
- cryptographically sound privacy maximized cash transfers

In the sea of noise and scams these are the only things that actually matter.

I am weary from the waiting for the rest of the world to begin to see it.
3056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2020, 09:56:09 PM
Capital Gains tax holiday

https://americanindependent.com/larry-kudlow-tax-cuts-coronavirus-stimulus-donald-trump-economy-capital-gains-covid-19/


Step 1: Cash out all bitcoin on Capital Gains tax holiday
Step 2: Buy all bitcoin back the next day.
.
.
Step 4: Pay capital gains only on the price at current levels instead of on $100/BTC.

As much as I like that law at first glance it would CRUSH markets.  Decimate them.

They should let each investor do it on their birthday.
3057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2020, 05:07:19 PM
There has been 11 blocks found in the last hour so that seems pretty quick to me since there should be 6 blocks per hour on average.
1 every ten minutes ideally.

so are they full or empty?

At a glance they all look full.  We just have a good backlog currently.
3058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2020, 03:18:12 PM
whats up with the mempool??

Hashrate @ath and still we are congesting?

Hashrate has nothing to do with how quickly we clear the mempool.

Well, I suppose if the recent difficulty adjustment was higher than today's current hashrate we could see block times slow down just a little... but that's also normal.
3059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2020, 01:54:27 PM
@mikeinspace
The road to 100K will be long & arduous for #Bitcoin  as each 10K rise is someone’s psychological top creating sell pressure and retracement. It’s easy to say you’ll hang on white knuckled all the way up but when will you lick the fiat boot... 20K? 30K? 50K?

HODL brother, HODL!
https://twitter.com/mikeinspace/status/1282862789812531206?s=21

I am wondering if this is not some sarcastic post.  He is not exactly one to take that ideological line.
3060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 07:38:13 PM
Wait!?!??  You evidently do not know how much I rely on your interpretive titles!  Mainly because I have no idea how to read ichimoku cloud charts.

But i imagine you get worn out from time to time.  NEVERFEAR!  I got you fam.


Camel goes for a swim...

-------
dyor
4h

Nessie burps.
D

Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain!!!
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