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3041  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 12, 2015, 06:08:29 AM
Somebody cashed out.... around 40k xpy dropped. No more buy-walls.
3042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 06:24:32 PM
LOOK AT TRADING - BUY SIDE IS FULL AND SELL SIDE IS EMPTY

THEY ARE PICKING UP YOUR COINS FOR A BARGAIN.

If the sell-side is empty it belongs to the context if it's a good or a bad sign. Sometimes it means: No hope for a rising price and active sells. That's what the chart is telling. And compared with yesterday there is not so much on the buy-side.
3043  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 03:08:39 PM

At least a honest post...
3044  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 01:53:25 PM
Interesting post that is already deleted on Hashtalk:


Coldcoiner:

PaycoinFoundation is going to kill XPy and screw everything ( READ IT AND PROVE ME WRONG ) OPEN PROJECT RELEASE CHALLENGE


Dear Fellow community members first of all i want to tell you that the above conclusion was made on the basis of my personal experiences:

who i am ? regular pay coin user and investor. I invested a lot in pay coin more than what i can afford to lose. And with every negative news, delay in launching effected me and my projects very bad very very bad and at last there was a time around 15 - 20 days prior when i really thought that every thing was finished and i will not be able to complete my projects and once again i will lost the amount i invested in those projects which i am doing for the benefit of crypto currencies and our pay coin. And i shared everything with one of the forum member i cant publish his name here but if he thinks ok then he can post it Smiley During the time of extreme tensions i contacted several guys for Investment/help @MrCoins @btcmillionaire @Huey and several others these are the names i am remembering because they are actively involved with XPY and their post shows that they are ready to help in every way to stabilize and benefit XPY. But i am surprised to see that i didn't get helping hand from anyone instead of that every one was busy in getting profit for themselves only Smiley i don't think its wrong its ok every one of us think the same and only act according to that. So sorry if it hurts but i am not blaming anyone but the fact is fact.

Know my views about @MrCEO :

When i have to face bad situation due to delay in honour program, Down fall of xpy i feel very bad about @MrCEO and even expresses my views openly on forum. I am sure that others also feels the same but they didn't posted it here due to fear of ban , greed etc. Even when i posted offer to sell my coins and account several of them come forward and try to stop me by saying that they will buy it they will support us etc etc on forum but on PM several guys clearly told me that they will not buy and only posting their support to get attention of josh @MrCEO . It means none of them are supporting paycoin they are simply showing trust to get gifts from GAW Smiley.

But at present something unexpected happened which changed my views totally. By totally i mean at present i have faith in @MrCEO and yes i beleive him and will support him in every possible way.

What Changed my Views about @MrCEO :

As i told you i faced very bad situation 15 - 20 days prior and during that time even i felt that i am in total lose and even lose my entire investment/savings die to Pay coin. And during that time i decided to seek community help but as already said no help i received even against collateral. So at last i decided some thing strange and results are unbelievable:

I simply contacted Josh @MrCEO by sending him a mail and you will be surprised to know that in that mail i clearly told him that i am in need of fund because of XPY and also offered him XPY as colleteral against his help. And you guys can't beleive it not only he replied back he gave me support assurance and fund i required. ( and if any of you need prrof i can show each and every mail i sent him the address where i received the coin etc ).

It clearly shows that @MrCEO is working hard to establish paycoin and he have complete faith in the coin else why he will fund paycoin related project ?

Others didn't helped because they don't have faith in it even @paycoinfoundation. I don’t know who is running it.

Know how they will damage the coin:

i am once gain in problem due to the silly step they took and lack of professionalism they shown. @MrCEO funded me using XPY and i gave it to my developer and you know what even before he tried to sell that the announcement come from paycoinfoundation and the rates are down by 50%. If they planned and moved according to professional ethics i am sure it will not happen and till know i will be online with my projects Sad and i am sure about it that our project will also help in stabilizing XPY. But what now who will help us the foundation. I simply don't able to even think that i will get not me anyone will get any help from anywhere else other than @MrCEO

And if GAW will be seprated from paycoin will they help in developing paycoin and stabilizing it ? no they will not even if i am in place of them i will also not.

So once gain i mailed @MrCEO telling him the problem i am facing and asked him to take back xpy and give btc or fiat to developer so that we can complete the projects. And i am sure this time also i will get help from @MrCEO and i am ready to place bet on that.

Know some of you guys can tell me that @MrCEO has wallets staking at 350% and that's why he is giving money to help startups etc. But i want to ask you one thing others also have the same type of wallets like paycoinfoundation and others why they are not helping others ?

My open challenge:

If you guys dont have the guts to establish any thing don't dare to destroy it. You will also face lose due to it. And if you think you are capable of helping out XPY then i am giving you an offer lets return the investment of @MrCEO and you guys invest and thats not possible can you at least bear the loses faced due to your announcements and UN professional way you adopted to make changes ?

and if any one have any doubt on my calibre i can challenge that i can release 10+ projects supporting XPY within 15 days time wanna test us ITS AN OPEN CHALLENGE. It means that you cant stabilize or support XPY by setting up a pay coin gateway we need users , funds and will to support if we want to support XPY Smiley

AND IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT I AM WRONG PROVE IT AND UNTILL YOU PROVE IT I AM WITH @MrCEO WHEN I THOUGHT THAT HE IS WRONG I OPENLY SAID THAT AND NOW WHEN I AM SURE HE IS GENIUNE AND TRUST WORTHY I AM AGAIN ADMITTING IT OPENLY.

THANKS @MrCEO TO HELP US WHEN WE NEED THAT AND LOOKING FOR THE SAME IN FUTURE ALSO .

Link (was): https://hashtalk.org/topic/36195/paycoinfoundation-is-going-to-kill-xpy-and-screw-everything-read-it-and-prove-me-wrong-open-project-release-challenge
3045  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 12:14:23 PM
25,000 buywall at 0.001, no idea who that is. That's pretty much all there is at the moment to break through.

Yesterday would have needed 50,000 sell off to get through so based on the same attrition then it looks like we'll get through .001 at some point tomorrow unless someone puts up more of a defensive wall.
I have no doubt that it will crash every buy wall. Reason is: The large holders obviously are in fights, don't trusting each other. Just a matter of time that somebody clicks on sell. And, more important: There is absolutely no reason why the price should rise and it won't stay at 0.001 - 0.0012.   

But, why would anyone put up the equiv of $6kUSD to buy this coin at this point? With all this prime controller infighting... right now, they may be with technically able people... could you imagine if they went over to garza's current group?  I could see them irrevocably corrupting the controllers, then it will be SOL for every paycoin holder out there.

All the last time (weeks, months) the whole community acted very "price-supportive"... trying all to back it with new buys and "don't sell - calls" etc. At the same time there were many manipulations, simple pumps in combination with "SOOON-Posts" and so on. It never worked very well if you look at the chart but somehow it helped that it's still this overvalued. Without that supportive community the price would be were it should be.

The problem is: These times has ended the last days. A single person can try to back the price but it won't help. So, your question is a good one but I've learned not to ask too much about rationality in the XPY-Game. Didn't find it on any side.

3046  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
25,000 buywall at 0.001, no idea who that is. That's pretty much all there is at the moment to break through.

Yesterday would have needed 50,000 sell off to get through so based on the same attrition then it looks like we'll get through .001 at some point tomorrow unless someone puts up more of a defensive wall.




I have no doubt that it will crash every buy wall. Reason is: The large holders obviously are in fights, don't trusting each other. Just a matter of time that somebody clicks on sell. And, more important: There is absolutely no reason why the price should rise and it won't stay at 0.001 - 0.0012.   
3047  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 05:17:32 AM
Serious question: Is there anybody who is able to explain what the plan was with XPY? I mean... money-printing, yes. But how could this ever have turned out well for anyone? Maybe some traders made some profit, but it seems nearly everybody who touched it regrets it - inclusive the founders.

So... what was the plan if it would have worked? How to get out without legal consequences?

Same as the plan to mine Bitcoin and not pay the power bill. This is how Mr.Garza does business.

That is also an interesting point. I mean... if he would have made great profit out of XPY this bill shouldn't be a problem. I don't understand this whole XPY-story. It's very entertaining and like a course in "collective psychology" but I would like to find any rationality. But every detail seems irrational...

3048  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 04:57:17 AM
Serious question: Is there anybody who is able to explain what the plan was with XPY? I mean... money-printing, yes. But how could this ever have turned out well for anyone? Maybe some traders made some profit, but it seems nearly everybody who touched it regrets it - inclusive the founders.

So... what was the plan if it would have worked? How to get out without legal consequences?
3049  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 11, 2015, 04:40:53 AM
Hey guys, I checked out the pastebin. It doesn't appear the messages are PGP signed... Doesn't that mean that someone could have just faked the entire conversation for the lulz?

Is there any reason to believe these messages are authentic? Serious question.

One of the people in the conversation has already confirmed it is real, check back one page. up about 4 posts  Roll Eyes

Haha, call me blind, but are you talking about the screenshot? Or is SDrebel ex-gaw? I haven't been keeping up with this monster thread, I've probably only read 200 pages here and there so my memory's kind of spotty.

Could you quote the proof post please?

This guy confirms it: https://hashtalk.org/user/paycoingateway

Look at his posts...
3050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 02:24:18 AM
why isnt the dev posting anything?
he sure knows about that dump
could bring some confidence back
but i quess they will wait some hours for a statement
suspicious
 Roll Eyes
my trolly totally uninformed quess
dev and pumpers are in contact and the pump will continue after this hardcore shakeout/dump
lets see

Why would we need the dev too hold our hand,rub our back and boost our confidence in the most amazing crypto coin ever made! Wake up people!!!

get real...no one cares...

Most amazing Cryptocoin ever made? It's brandnew. Started at: March 20, 2015, 07:43:58 AM

And you're brandnew as well: March 23, 2015, 02:04:25 PM

Really that new? ;-)
3051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 02:06:23 AM
CRAVE VOLUME ON TREX IS BIGGER THAN ALL CRYPTSY VOLUME.  Shocked

CRAVE VOLUME = 1630.08727843 BTC  Shocked

CRYPTSY BTC MARKET VOLUME = 1386.77 BTC    Roll Eyes




Yes, that's interesting. But more interesting is: Around 300.000 Coins were dumped today. What tells that about distribution? I doubt that that was a panic-dump from hundreds... it was a dump from several guys with A LOT of Coins. And they obviously give a shit on this project. No real supporter would hurt a project like this over the price. So... will the money flow back in? I would say "no".
still wondering how they should have made money until now,i bet they bought up more then they sold
everything seemed so fake, buywalls ,sellwalls
(that dump was fake too right? everything managed by a bot ?!)
cant imagine that so many people bought so high so that they have made money ( so maybe it was a hardcore shakeout and they now own so much coins that they can manipulate like they want in future ?!)
or i have not totally understood these pumps
or just bad math
hm Huh


Let's say, just for example, you and 4 friends buy over time around 200k. The price was around 50k sat. You and you're friends invested around 100 BTC over time. Maybe a little bit more. Let's say everybody 25 BTC = 125 BTC. Another 50 BTC to give it a push, to pump it.. others buy in, it's hyping, price is rising. And then you dump as much as you can. Average maybe "just" 500k sat. But that would mean: Your early investment x 10

I would say that's a nice profit. ;-)

3052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:59:08 AM
Around 300.000 Coins were dumped today.

300k coins were not dumped, there was barely even 200k in all of Bittrex's wallets. Also 48% of all coins were staking before the dump, now its 37%.

Yes, you're right. Made a mistake watching the volume. The Volume is around 400k but there was also a lot of buying before. But the problem is: Even if "just" 150k were dumped it doesn't make it really better. It was pumped and dumped. And there is always the problem that guys who hurt a project like this, whoever they are, take the money and leave. It's always the time after a dump the Devs will show if the project is legit or not. Never saw that the price recovered fast after a dump like this.
3053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:47:59 AM
CRAVE VOLUME ON TREX IS BIGGER THAN ALL CRYPTSY VOLUME.  Shocked

CRAVE VOLUME = 1630.08727843 BTC  Shocked

CRYPTSY BTC MARKET VOLUME = 1386.77 BTC    Roll Eyes




Yes, that's interesting. But more interesting is: Around 300.000 Coins were dumped today. What tells that about distribution? I doubt that that was a panic-dump from hundreds... it was a dump from several guys with A LOT of Coins. And they obviously give a shit on this project. No real supporter would hurt a project like this over the price. So... will the money flow back in? I would say "no".

so what i dumped and bought in at 69k why you mad bro ? you loose alot of monies ?

I'm not mad. I didn't buy and therefore I didn't sell. No profit, no loss. I've learned my lesson with Cloak. I don't buy Coins that I consider as "hype" or maybe even "scam", but I watch it. ;-)
3054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:41:01 AM
CRAVE VOLUME ON TREX IS BIGGER THAN ALL CRYPTSY VOLUME.  Shocked

CRAVE VOLUME = 1630.08727843 BTC  Shocked

CRYPTSY BTC MARKET VOLUME = 1386.77 BTC    Roll Eyes




Yes, that's interesting. But more interesting is: Around 300.000 Coins were dumped today. What tells that about distribution? I doubt that that was a panic-dump from hundreds... it was a dump from several guys with A LOT of Coins. And they obviously give a shit on this project. No real supporter would hurt a project like this over the price. So... will the money flow back in? I would say "no".
3055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:02:03 AM
Wtf is going on here honestly? Money is just getting poured into this coin and people are selling for so low. What the actual fuck?

The 24hr volume is higher than the actual marketcap like wtf??

Obvious is: It was pumped and dumped. Question is who? Question is: Is it really cheap at this level? And I mean it serious, don't want to assume I would know the answer. The thing about it is: If a project is legit, the Dev has to prove that after the first Pump'n'Dump. If this project is not abandoned in some months, and the Dev is still developing even if the price stays low(er), it's legit. And then there will be the question: Just not-scam or with real quality/value? In the end only quality will win. And only Devs who are skilled and do their coding through months with low prices will stay and bring Crypto true innovation. Time will tell what exactly Crave is/will be... ;-)
3056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.1- Blowfish, 2FA, Theft Recovery, Decoy System - SHA-256 on: April 10, 2015, 10:25:49 PM
And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4PsCaJ23c

Really awesome!
3057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The full truth behind ShadowCash/Coin trolls and their attacks on other coins. on: April 10, 2015, 07:28:28 PM
who is developing the shadowtrash market?
Alty?
The cloakcoin scammer? LOL
Alty is one of the SDC devs, you guys remember him?

LOL

That's really sad! I remember how Alty talked about one Cloak-supporter who left Cloak and went to Shadow. And a little bit later I tried to defend Alty when he went on vacation and Cloak was dumped, but then.... he dropped Cloak and supported Shadow.

Just pathetic... I won't trust any project this guy just talks about.
3058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.1- Blowfish, 2FA, Theft Recovery, Decoy System - SHA-256 on: April 10, 2015, 08:15:53 AM
Neos will be on the Bitcoin-Rush-Show today! (3pm PST)

http://youtube.com/bitcoinrush  
https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Rush/status/586388671437209600
3059  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: GAIA Innovative Wallet mit integriertem appstore - Volume steigt on: April 06, 2015, 01:48:42 AM


Ich habe eine derartige wallet bisher noch nicht gesehen. (...)

Viele glauben, dass Gaia v.a. von Neos abgekupfert hat. ;-)




Allerdings legt Neos den Schwerpunkt vor allem auf Sicherheit und Gaia offenbar v.a. auf Apps. Neos kommt mir aber professioneller vor um ehrlich zu sein.

3060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.1- Blowfish, 2FA, Theft Recovery, Decoy System - SHA-256 on: April 01, 2015, 10:21:32 AM
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