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3061  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: April 27, 2016, 08:02:49 AM
I agree. Rather than denying or putting under the carpet, lets discuss this issue in a great death. Racism is an evil which needs to be exposed in every possible manner.

Racism is for people without brain honestly, i think normal people don't care about it and important is witch are you inside and doesnt matter what color of your skin.

Racism as: "negro < whites" is for people without brains
Racism as: "Some very vague and general population categories have some physical perticularities that developped themselves through muillions of years of evolution and give general trend considering some caracteristics of each population" is for everyone with a brain though =)
3062  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 27, 2016, 08:00:09 AM
As a non American I wonder, how many delegates does Trump still need to get his nomination?
3063  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An easy explanation of why the Fiat capitalistic system is flawed on: April 27, 2016, 07:56:32 AM
OK I m not exactly a fan of capitalism but here is a demonstration not against the capitalism in itself but more the fiat/bank aspect. I m not promoting socialism here ^^

Capitalism is an economic paradigm that allows for private ownership of resources, businesses, means of production and any other facet of the economy. Any individual person has an opportunity to thrive under such a system. The USA is the only "success story" in human history, and competitive free market capitalism is what enabled it to have continued success.
I could heavily discuss such statement. I see no "success story" in the USA, rather the contrary. It's probably the saddest and most unfortunate story of our time. But the main point of my remark was to explain this thread is not about discussing capitalism, so I won't go further. Want to discuss the benefits of capitalism? Open a new thread.
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It's a very simple explanation but that doesn't mean it's not perfectly true ^^
Two things get us in the shit:
First, fiat system isn't a closed one. It means money is added in the system on a regular basis. You'll tell me, it's rather logical because the amount of wealth in the world always increase so the amount of money has to increase too. Fine.

Monetary policy has nothing to do with capitalism. The government, not private individuals or entities, regulate the currency supply. There is a legitimate need to add or remove currency to maintain price stability as the population grows. Let's say the USA only made 100 million dollars available. We now have over 300 million people living here. Do you see a problem with that? Inflation would be rampant and the currency value would be volatile.

As populations grow, demand for resources grow. This creates the demand on commodities, which are then supplied by companies of industry. A stable currency is required for a smooth-running economy.
It's exactly what I said...
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But the second problem is that money is printed by government (or an institution depending on the government,depends of the country) and given out to the banks, and it's banks jobs to spread the money. Problem is: how do they do that? By giving out loans.

Not quite - you could get a job and earn money, use the money you earned to start a business and further increase your wealth. This thing called work coupled with an ability to provide a product or service of value to other people does not require a loan.
Fine, and where the money of your job comes from? Let's say a company. The company gets money through customer who gets money through jobs etc... But at the end of the day, there is someone somewhere who borrowed the money to a bank. That's my point.
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And they do that since the beginning, it means banks earn interests on absolutely every penny on earth! Which means you gotta print more money to pay them,money printed by government and then... loaned by the banks!

Banks are private entities, although they are highly integrated with the government and therefore partially socialized, hence the problems they introduce into society. You cannot really create your own bank as you would be required to comply with endless pages of regulatory crap designed to essentially make it illegal for truly private banks to spring up.

During the obama bailouts of 2008-2009, many small, independent, responsible banks that did not slice up and sell bad mortgage debt were forced to accept bail-out money even though they didn't want or need it. The reason for this was to get them under the thumb of the federal government, in addition to creating the false narrative that the dodd-frank bill (aka the economy killer) was necessary to prevent a similar crash from happening again.

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It seems just a closed system where banks get everything in the end. Basically, with fiat, we're screwed.

I don't think you really understand how the traditional banking system works or why it has problems. Most of the problems that exist with regard to banking and finance are onerous government regulations that stifle competition and block new ideas from ever gaining ground. Things like the SEC exist to protect the financial industry, not to protect citizens from unscrupulous lenders (we already have laws for theft and fraud).

I don't think you understand my point though...

I'll try to simplify it so you can understand it.
Banks inject money into the society. How? By giving out loans. That's the only way it is done. Which means they earn interest on anything... That's all I'm saying. That's where the problem is...
3064  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An easy explanation of why the Fiat capitalistic system is flawed on: April 27, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
fiat does not = capitalism

Your title is misleading. Sure sounds like you are promoting socialism by criticizing a flawed banking model not exclusive to capitalism, and then calling it capitalism.

No it's not. You're only misinterpreting it.
My title is refering to fiat capitalistic system, simply because it's the current system and that's the one I'm criticizing. I've got no idea what a fiat socialism/communism/whateverism would do as it doesn't exist.

But you see it as a criticize of capitalism, which is not here.

I don't know what would give me that impression, perhaps it is because it is in the title. As far as no communist/socialist states using fiat, I would be surprised if you could show me any communist/socialist state that doesn't/didn't use fiat currency. Perhaps address the real problem, fiat and fractional reserve lending, and leave your communist/socialist bias out of it.

Give me the example of a socialist or communist country with fiat!
The only country which is really communist/socialist is Cuba. And they don't use fiat. Well at least they didn't.

No no no, no more of that tu quoque logical fallacy bullshit from you.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

YOU made a claim, and I posed a challenge to YOU to prove it. You don't get to just turn the question around on me and tell me to prove it for you because you are too ignorant and lazy. Now try again comrade.



Which I did. It's not because you're too lazy to read my answer that it doesn't exist ^^
Cuba: no fiat. USSR: no fiat.
You asked examples of communist countries without fiat, I gave them. Is it my fault if you can't read it?
3065  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 26, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
Except for Samuel L. Jackson, I could give a fuck less if all of those celebrities went to hell.


An actor is a paid liar. Samuel is going nowhere.




An actor is a paid liar?
Wtf are you talking about again? ^^
Wanna share one of your strange theory again?


Google it.




And I get nothing. Strange, how is it that all your theories are known from you only?
3066  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 26, 2016, 07:44:24 PM

Reading back a few pages this whole thread is more or less a series of strawmen laid out to try and justify an otherwise untenable position.

Well, what else could it be? Those people are actually believing thousands of scientists all around the world are corrupted by the government to create the climate change problem to... Well I still don't know why but they do!

There isn't much difference between them and those believing the Earth is flat ^^
3067  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 26, 2016, 07:42:50 PM


Who should do the curating of the internet? People like you?



You ask these unrelated random questions but I feel inclined to answer them, police officers and free will be dammed!
 
The 'internet' is a bunch of privately owned sites.  Policy should be up to whoever owns the site in question.

Reddit is good because there are so many communities, but I'd prefer a series of privately held forums.  

Reddit is good because it keeps you from having to read the worst postings.

Reddit is bad because it is rule by the majority.

While I believe in global warming, (lol duh) I don't believe in the majority subjugating the minority. You guys and the anti-vaccine crowd should be able to post your stuff somewhere just not wherever you desire. Bitcointalk is pretty cool in that regard and here we are.

Perfectly, if they weren't free to talk about such things you couldn't know that they're just a bunch of idiots ^^
3068  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An easy explanation of why the Fiat capitalistic system is flawed on: April 26, 2016, 07:39:49 PM
fiat does not = capitalism

Your title is misleading. Sure sounds like you are promoting socialism by criticizing a flawed banking model not exclusive to capitalism, and then calling it capitalism.

No it's not. You're only misinterpreting it.
My title is refering to fiat capitalistic system, simply because it's the current system and that's the one I'm criticizing. I've got no idea what a fiat socialism/communism/whateverism would do as it doesn't exist.

But you see it as a criticize of capitalism, which is not here.

I don't know what would give me that impression, perhaps it is because it is in the title. As far as no communist/socialist states using fiat, I would be surprised if you could show me any communist/socialist state that doesn't/didn't use fiat currency. Perhaps address the real problem, fiat and fractional reserve lending, and leave your communist/socialist bias out of it.

Give me the example of a socialist or communist country with fiat!
The only country which is really communist/socialist is Cuba. And they don't use fiat. Well at least they didn't.
3069  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 26, 2016, 07:36:40 PM

Well why don't you simply hands us the figures proving there is no warming trend?
Because that's fucking easy to do no? You've got the raw data, it's a clear upper trend whatever you say. You want to deny it? Well then just check the data with regressi and plot the derivation of the temperature curve...

Note to Warmunistas:  For maximum affect, just make sure you use the 'raw adjusted' data.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=374873.msg14064015#msg14064015





Ahah yeah sure!
And keep ignoring what it means to adjust data xD
Couldn't you just read the whole explanation? Was it really too difficult?
Of course it's much easier to simply make a gif...
3070  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: April 26, 2016, 07:33:16 PM
If I'm rich I would not gamble to be honest because I think you have to stay rich, if you get addicted to gambling you will lose a lot of money fast.
If you want to stay rich in my eyes you also do not need to spend a lot also.

Yup! I agree with you mostly a person turned rich will gonna have a business that he likes the most and will continue to nurture it and keep an eye on it I think that is most people will do and not playing around and spending a lot on gambling.
It is of course not that smart to gamble if you are rich but if you are rich you have indeed the chance to gamble but you must dont lose that much money with gambling.
And that would be also better for you if you are not gambling so you can also save some money and that would be perfect for you.

But it can gives you fun of course but it would be smarter if you are not doing that.

well, we should change our mindset and think of gambling as a game to have fun not to waste money or earn money.
if you think of gambling as just another game that you pay to play then you can play for the fun of it and enjoy the winning amount and maybe even get rich that way.

But it isn't game of fun. It is game you play when you want to win money.
If you play for fun you can just play with play money or 1 satoshi bets.
What is the point of  involving a lot money in it if you play "just for fun"?

Hmm... No you can do both. You can play for fun with big amount in order to get the thrills.
In fact playing with small amounts makes no sense, because you don't get the thrills of "am I going to win this time?"
3071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: April 26, 2016, 06:35:34 PM
Well that settles everything. It was a one time chance for America, they didn't take it. Let them assume the consequences.

At least the good news is that Trump is too dumb and greedy to harm anything but his own country ^^


Do you still see a path of victory for bernie sanders?




Nope but me I see a path of victory for European Union =D


With or without the UK?




With the UK or without it doesn't matter, what matters is that it'll be without the US!
3072  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 26, 2016, 06:33:31 PM
Except for Samuel L. Jackson, I could give a fuck less if all of those celebrities went to hell.


An actor is a paid liar. Samuel is going nowhere.




An actor is a paid liar?
Wtf are you talking about again? ^^
Wanna share one of your strange theory again?
3073  Economy / Gambling / Re: Secondstrade.com is an scam. on: April 26, 2016, 05:27:53 PM
You're going a bit fast calling secondstrade a "scam" ^^

It's a very perticular problem, maybe a bug I don't know.

Get in touch with the support and you'll see what they tell you. Then maybe you'll have to open a scam accusation thread ^^
3074  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2016, 05:22:27 PM
How do you guys store your coins in cold storage btw?

Electrum, paper wallets??

Just curious, thinking about using a different method.
I might be wrong but for me Electrum is far enough to cold store anything you want. The risk is really close to zero as you get your keys.
3075  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Suspend Social Justice Courses - Change.org Petition on: April 26, 2016, 05:20:15 PM
Yeah but the only thing you'd like would be to kill everyone not perfectly white or enslave them and do the same for anyone not "normal" which means not as you.
how did we get from repatriate to kill or enslave
Hmm... From what I read of you he's right. You said to shoot at them if they try to pass the border so they stay in their country in order to work for us without improving their life standard.

It's really close to kill or enslave no?
3076  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: FIATFINDER on: April 26, 2016, 05:16:55 PM
Oh and just one more question:
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Is it on a real map?

I mean it's all on the Internet I guess,

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but is it on a related map of a real city? If yes then how do you implement the cars? Don't you worry about how easy it will be to create a filter giving out only added object?
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Yes, Japanese Naniwa City OSAKA
  
Code:
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/34268

Copyrighted and produced by ZENRIN.
ZENRIN is a major map information company that holds the top share in the Japanese market for local residential maps.
Japanese Naniwa City by ZENRIN is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License(CC-BY).

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No filters available
Obfuscated closed sources (the test version is not obfuscated)

Ok well it's a new concept. The only problem would be that you take more than 20% of comission which is quite excessive xD
3077  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: April 26, 2016, 05:12:33 PM
Well that settles everything. It was a one time chance for America, they didn't take it. Let them assume the consequences.

At least the good news is that Trump is too dumb and greedy to harm anything but his own country ^^


Do you still see a path of victory for bernie sanders?




Nope but me I see a path of victory for European Union =D
3078  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 26, 2016, 05:08:41 PM
The actual satellite data sets show no statistically significant warming.  In lay terms, that means no trend.  Do you have any other exaggerations or mis representations of data to bring out to support your true faith and belief?

Because I've got news for you.  When a scientific controversy must be supported at all costs, and when that means it is necessary to use mis representation, denial, obfuscation, and ad hominem attacks to support it, as far as science is concerned, it's over for those hypotheses.  But don't worry — you are NOT ALONE.  There appear to be quite a few people that would believe a fantasy over facts.



http://www.steynonline.com/7517/steyn-vs-the-big-climate-enforcers

Prof Judith Curry, the former chair of Earth and atmospheric sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, added: "It is inappropriate to dismiss the arguments of the so-called contrarians, since their disagreement with the consensus reflects conflicts of values and a preference for the empirical (i.e. what has been observed) versus the hypothetical (i.e. what is projected from climate models).

Well why don't you simply hands us the figures proving there is no warming trend?
Because that's fucking easy to do no? You've got the raw data, it's a clear upper trend whatever you say. You want to deny it? Well then just check the data with regressi and plot the derivation of the temperature curve...
3079  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An easy explanation of why the Fiat capitalistic system is flawed on: April 26, 2016, 05:02:32 PM
It has to be kept in mind that monetary infation does not necessarily mean price inflation, to establish this relationship banks are needed to distribute the new money supply, and so if successful they produce the price inflation. However even if the banks are successful in this, there are questions about whether this is at all desirable and whether this is going to be possible at all in the near future. I think that the mechanisms of monetary policies will become very inefficient with new monetary tech.
 
If you want to have an economy of export, you devalue your currency, so its cheaper for the buyers with another currency, then over time population's income is adjusted to inflation. The difference between the time of inflation and the adjustment is the actual cost of inflation, the decrease in the buying power of the population. This is the invisible tax paid to the banks and the rich, a tax that actually hurts the part of the population that has the most % of its value stored as currency, mostly the poor that only have their wage, and the middle class with some savings. Why would the rich care if the buying power of whatever money they are holding is decreased, when their businessess, products, land etc. all increase in value disproportionally. Another thing is that is supposed to be beneficial is that loans become cheaper, this has two effects, the people who have a lot of capital can enlarge it even further by taking cheap loans, their loans are profitable, they create capital, and the poor go deeper and deeper in debt because its so cheap and they spend capital. Both mechanisms lead to a greater inequality of money distribution in the long run, and then people wonder why the gap is growing and why our economies are failing. No wonder, its been our money policy for half a century.


Exactly. And what people don't understand is that this tax is by far more important that whatever amount they pay to the state.
Worst, this tax is not only paid by them! But also by their government ><
3080  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 26, 2016, 04:57:25 PM
Trump is probably the last sigh of US and the only hope of Europe!
Once he gets elected Idiocracy prophecy will be fullfilled and the whole world will praise him for freeing them of the threat that the US is to everyone Smiley
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