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3061  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 15, 2018, 11:23:21 PM
It's just strange I don't think he would of done it for money. AFAIK Gleb was invested in several different assets, and a few of them being altcoins. I think Gleb would of also known that he would of easily gotten a loan in the lending section on his reputation alone. I'm sure a few people would of done it without collateral or even taking the account as collateral just because of how well known it is, and on the assumption he wouldn't just give up an account like that for a mere 600.

I just can't get my head around this.
I know he is/was in a legal dispute with one of the scammers he bused several years ago, IIRC, it was with cyberpinoy. I vaguely remember something about claims of something along the lines of stalking (maybe his wife), that very well could have been dubious.

This could mean two things:
1, he could be trying to create doubt as to if he is really posting what is being said by the account in order to muddy the legal waters.
2, he could actually need the money as a result of his legal bills and potentially a judgement against him. As I previously mentioned, he may not be in a position to repay a loan (even though many would likely be lining up to lend to him). If he really needed the money, he may have chosen to sell his account to someone who understood what he was buying instead of entering into a transaction without the intention of holding up his end of the deal in order to get the $600
3062  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 15, 2018, 11:00:01 PM
He is trying to sell his account, not borrow against it, so he may not be in a position to repay what is given to him (IDK). Are you willing to contribute to the cause?

(ignoring the fact that begging is not allowed here) would you like it if you were asked for money by long standing members?
I might. It depends on the circumstance. If the amount is really big, and if not many people decide to help, I might not be able to , because I won't just give a large amount of money to a person who I don't know at all.
It looks like he was asking for about $600.

If you were going to help, would you be okay with the fact that he has a valuable asset that he has not yet sold?

3063  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 15, 2018, 10:55:21 PM
Bruno has contributed a fairly decent amount to the community over the years and based upon the fact he is (trying) to sell his accounts he likely is in need of money. So I would ask both hilarious and darkstar if they want to actively prevent Bruno from raising money he likely needs by selling something he duly owns? 
Judging by the message, and the supplied information it has already been sold  Otherwise, why would the PM be within the time frame of the password changes[1], and Gleb was likely willing to verify that he was still in control to protect the buyer.
I would say there is a fairly decent chance it was sold, buy maybe not. The password changes indicate it likely changed hands, however the PM was sent after most of the changes. I don't think the password would change until after the account was sold, and I think these types of PMs would stop once the account was sold.

The only other explanation I can think of is the account sold to someone, and the buyer was trying to flip it.
3064  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 15, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
I don’t think this is proof the account was sold, it is fairly good evidence it is for sale though.

Bruno has contributed a fairly decent amount to the community over the years and based upon the fact he is (trying) to sell his accounts he likely is in need of money. So I would ask both hilarious and darkstar if they want to actively prevent Bruno from raising money he likely needs by selling something he duly owns?  
If that is truly the case, I am sure a few users would help him out to give/lend him some money?
He is trying to sell his account, not borrow against it, so he may not be in a position to repay what is given to him (IDK). Are you willing to contribute to the cause?

(ignoring the fact that begging is not allowed here) would you like it if you were asked for money by long standing members?
3065  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 15, 2018, 10:27:01 PM
I don’t think this is proof the account was sold, it is fairly good evidence it is for sale though.

Bruno has contributed a fairly decent amount to the community over the years and based upon the fact he is (trying) to sell his accounts he likely is in need of money. So I would ask both hilarious and darkstar if they want to actively prevent Bruno from raising money he likely needs by selling something he duly owns? 
3066  Other / Meta / Re: Happy Birthday 🔥 🔥 theymos 🔥 🔥 on: June 15, 2018, 05:45:10 PM
Happy birthday.
3067  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No wonder they put Tommy Robinson in jail on: June 14, 2018, 02:51:53 PM
It seems that Freedom of Speech does not quite exist in the UK as it does in the US or most of the rest of the world.

Ideally, this will get enough attention in the UK (without the press covering it) for its citizens to be outraged enough for new laws to get passed guaranteeing *real* freedom of speech, and freedom of the press.

The US isn't a lot better either I believe..

It's not that bad, but it's bad too.

The thing is, once Tommy dies (and he probably will), there's going to be shit to pay.

If that happens I'm thinking of flying over to protest too, though, I'm not a fan of ending up in a British jail  Cheesy
Well appearently there was another case in which there were muslins who were part of some kind of sex trafficking ring that the press was barred from reporting on (or maybe they were barred from reporting on significant parts of the case) and Robinson was allegedly reporting on the case by way of filming some of the defendants going into the courthouse. Robinson was subsequently changed with contempt of court.

The case in question he was reporting on also has to do with police corruption apparently.

It would not be possible to bar the press from reporting on a court case in the US, nor would a court be able to prevent someone from being able to film in a public place.
3068  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No wonder they put Tommy Robinson in jail on: June 14, 2018, 08:01:22 AM
It seems that Freedom of Speech does not quite exist in the UK as it does in the US or most of the rest of the world.

Ideally, this will get enough attention in the UK (without the press covering it) for its citizens to be outraged enough for new laws to get passed guaranteeing *real* freedom of speech, and freedom of the press.
3069  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US President Trump and North Korea leader Kim Jong Un sign document on: June 14, 2018, 07:49:14 AM
This is a good sign for a long lasting peace in Korean Peninsula. I hope it will continue to the goal they want. And maybe the unification of two Korea's just like in Germany.
However, now it is hard to make a prospection what influence this doc really have. Will hope that situation will be changed for the better.
The document itself is little different than previous agreements that NK has participated to in the past. The difference this time is that in the past, the US was willing to essentially give money and sanctions relief what was basically up front, which is not the case now. In this agreement, the US agreed to stop military exercises with South Korea (which were little more than a show of force to NK), and security guarantees that last as long as good faith negotiation continues. There was also the threat of military action on the part of the US, and Trump seems to be willing to use military action against NK if necessary, which I don't think was the case with previous administrations, certainly not the Obama administration.   



It will be more difficult in my opinion. The mental and economic difference between Koreas is bigger than it was between Germans.
Germany being reunified was the result of the USSR collapsing (in essence). I don't think the NK government will fall, at least not without the help of a foreign (to NK) government as NK has too much control over their people. Although like the USSR, NK appears to be rapidly running out of money.


I think its quite simple - if kim wants to stay in power he will not give up nukes.
I don't think it is that simple. The Trump administration, in conjunction with the UN, have placed strong sanctions against NK, making it difficult for NK to fund its operations. There are various rumors as to how much money NK has left, but the general consensus is that it is not very much, and they are having more and more difficulty selling what little exports they have.


Kim is in a difficult situation. If he gives up his nuclear weapons, then he's quite likely to be Libya'd.
Kim was given some security guarantees by the US, and the US needs to keep this agreement if it wants to have any chance of reaching a deal with Iran. If the US reneges on security guarantees, the chances of war breaking out with Iran go way up, and if Iran does successfully develop a nuke, they could potentially sell it to a terrorist organization (or potentially even the underlying technology to a terrorist organization), which would be good for no one.

Probably, Kim is not really interested in change, and he'll basically just ignore this.
In the past NK was able to renege on stopping their nuke program because they were given nearly everything up front, and has little to gain by keeping their end of the deal. There is also the issue of money and sanctions as the Trump sanctions against NK have reportedly been particularly effective and there have been reports that NK is low on money.

I suspect that it was mostly set up by Tillerson before he was replaced...)
Pompeo visited NK when he was still the head of the CIA, and Tillerson was fired very shortly after this visit. I suspect that Pompeo got the process started as the head of the CIA, possibly as a result of intelligence the CIA had on NK, and he was effectively acting as secretary of state while he was waiting to be confirmed on the NK issue.
3070  Other / Archival / Re: Calling out Blazed and dooglus! look at the actions of your minion. on: June 14, 2018, 07:16:09 AM
The OP is offering to contest negative ratings the recipient feels is unjust, which has the potential to expose negative ratings given out for less than kosher reasons.

I would say any recipient of unjust negative trust has a better capability to contest the negative rating themselves. Including digaran would be counter-productive in this regard.
I agree, in most cases, it will be best to contest a negative rating yourself. However there are cases when this is not true, for example if you do not speak english very well, or if you are having trouble articulating an argument.

Exposing unjust ratings is not something to be regulated by a commissioned 3rd party; that is a community effort.
I would not say the type of service the OP is offering is regulating the contesting of unjust ratings in any way, the recipient is free to contest the rating himself.

Also on your point this being a community effort, I would agree, however I would also say the community has failed in this regard. The instances of cases in which contested ratings are really even discussed are few and far between. Most of the time, conversations about contested ratings both start and finish with "xx doesn't trust you, therefore the negative rating is valid" which in no way is looking into the legitimacy of the underlying rating.



The fact that someone is a shit poster is handled by the merit system, and handled by the fact that they will get banned if they post too much nonsense.

Not entirely handled, though, is it? I would say that some sort of assistance or augmentation is appropriate, such as tagging people you believe to be untrustworthy for maliciously spamming.
I would disagree. Someone breaking forum rules needs to be dealt with via the administration either themselves or via delegated authority of the moderators. Most instances of rule breaking are dealt with by giving the person some kind of warning -- be it a PM, a post being deleted or a temp ban -- and the person doesn't break the underlying rule again (or they don't after multiple warnings). A negative rating on the other hand is pretty much always going to be longer lasting than any warning, and in most instances will be permanent -- this will result in many people effectively being excluded from the community that probably should not be.

A negative rating would still be appropriate if there was a failed scam attempt, or if someone is showing signs they plan on attempting on scamming someone in the future.

Believing someone is untrustworthy and believing someone is going to scam are not necessarily one in the same. You can believe someone will betray your trust simply because they are unable to understand what would constitute "your trust"; there are endless subjective reasons to distrust someone. All of these are valid, in our system, as it is currently "enforced".

You have a small number of people who leave negative ratings for subjective reasons (that are often questionable), it just appears this is more widespread because of the vast number of ratings they hand out. In my prior post, I provided an example of when I received a negative rating for no reason other than I was calling out a scam attempt someone was engaged in. By the criteria that you can leave a negative rating because you "distrust" someone would mean you can leave a negative rating for someone calling out your scam attempt, and if this is acceptable, then those in the DT network get a free pass in scamming.
3071  Other / Meta / Re: theymos and Cyrus please check PM on: June 13, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
Generally speaking the admins are very good at reading PMs. If you have not received a response then you likely have received your answer.

Your account will not be recovered via a signed message alone, as the admins will look at additional non public information to decide if you are really the owner of the account.
3072  Other / Politics & Society / US President Trump and North Korea leader Kim Jong Un sign document on: June 12, 2018, 06:42:30 AM
US President Donald Trump and NK leader Kim Jong Un have just signed an unspecified document at the completion of a summit between the two countries in Singapore.

What are the implications of this summit? Will this lead to the end of a war that has technically been ongoing for more than 6 decades? Will this lead to verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of North Korea?

Also, although not directly related to the summit, how will this affect the situation with/in Iran?
3073  Economy / Reputation / Re: digaran is an alt of... ... on: June 11, 2018, 07:15:34 PM
I thought you will say digaran is an alt of digaran2 because they both have two "a" in username but ok.

Maybe that number "2" in digaran2's username is connected with your calculation. If you remove two zeroes from 200 in Pirateat40's avatar you will get number "2".

Notbatman has -2 in his profile which means  2 - 2 = 0 which means "2" in digaran2 doesn't really exists.  Shocked

Also, notbatman has -2: -1/ +0. We all know (-2) X (-1) = +2.

Strange, 2 + 2 = 4, adding 0 to 4 will give us 40 which is number in Pirateat40's username.

Note: Pay attention to colors.
This logic is similar to why Fire trucks are typically red....

Quote from: why are fire trucks red
Because they have eight wheels and four people on them, and four plus eight makes twelve, and there are twelve inches in a foot, and one foot is a ruler, and Queen Elizabeth was a ruler, and Queen Elizabeth was also a ship, and the ship sailed the seas, and there were fish in the seas, and fish have fins, and the Finns fought the Russians, and the Russians are red, and fire trucks are always “Russian" around
3074  Economy / Reputation / Re: digaran is an alt of... ... on: June 11, 2018, 03:09:03 PM
He is a troll but I wouldn’t ignore everything he says blindly. Although I have to admit he is a rather good troll, probably one of the better ones.
3075  Economy / Reputation / Re: digaran is an alt of... ... on: June 11, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
I am not sure if this is suppose to be satire or not.

This is very similar to the logic used by timelord and I wouldn’t give it much credence.
3076  Other / Archival / Re: Calling out Blazed and dooglus! look at the actions of your minion. on: June 11, 2018, 02:40:56 AM
-snip-
A hypocrite scammer and his concern trolling at its finest:



There is a difference between being unable to articulate why you believe someone is a small in a small number of instances and using the fact that you "do not trust" someone as a basis for a negative rating in almost every instance.


When someone is deciding if they want to trade with him, they will know that a negative rating means “~this person scammed you or you strongly believe he is a scammer”
Eh, yeah that's probably true and I realize digaran hasn't scammed anyone that I know of, but I'm not sure if he's a person I'd want to trade with--imagine trying to do a deal with someone as mentally unstable as he is.  I didn't tag him because, as I've said before, I think he's basically a harmless nincompoop who barks a lot but hasn't yet bit anyone hard enough to make the skin bleed.  I don't think he's been tagged inappropriately, because his taggers don't trust him.  Period. 
In 2014, I called out a purchased account on DT that was being used to further a scam. In response to my opening that thread, I received a negative rating from that person. Logically speaking, he did not trust me, as you generally will not trust someone calling out your scams, or otherwise accusing you of something that, if proven true would have negative consequences for you. Would you consider chalidore's negative rating against me to be "valid" on that same basis?


If you ask my opinion, suchmoon gave a negative rating to the OP because she does not like the services the OP is providing. The OP is offering to contest negative ratings the recipient feels is unjust, which has the potential to expose negative ratings given out for less than kosher reasons.


That quote from the trust page "this person scammed you or you strongly believe he is a scammer" has become just a guideline and we all know it.  Bitcointalk doesn't have a tool to alert people that a member is a shitposter, or a merit beggar, or an insane person who hasn't scammed anyone but probably shouldn't be trusted.  It's a one-size-fits-all trust system, and people should look into any comments on anyone's trust page and make their own decision based on what is said and what's in the reference link (if one is given).
I don't know about you, but I don't send money to what is "probably" the correct address, and I don't see why you (or anyone who cares about their reputation) would act any differently when it comes to handing out negative ratings.

The fact that someone is a shit poster is handled by the merit system, and handled by the fact that they will get banned if they post too much nonsense.


Just because someone has not scammed someone, does not mean a negative rating is not appropriate. A negative rating would still be appropriate if there was a failed scam attempt, or if someone is showing signs they plan on attempting on scamming someone in the future.

I might agree with looking at comments on trust pages for comments that are not in your trust list as these comments to not play a factor in trust scores, and you generally should not ignore scam reports unless you can verify they are invalid. However the reason someone is in your trust network is because they give accurate ratings, and if you are finding that someone is giving out ratings that you are ignoring, then this person should not be in your trust network. 
3077  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Situation about ICE ROCK MINING (ROCK1 Token) No buyback as promised!!! on: June 11, 2018, 01:55:39 AM
Anyone who has a generally basic understanding of how mining works (and the economics behind mining), will reasonably know that IceRock has no way of reliably generating the returns they promise solely via a mining operation. The variables of the difficulty and the price of the crypto being mined cannot be controlled, and if they vary enough from the underlying assumptions (against the miner), profitability will be lower than what is promised.


I believe their target audience/market was those who do not understanding the economics behind mining, and those who only know that in the past mining has generated fairly decent returns for miners.
3078  Economy / Reputation / Re: Green trusted Legendary member is selling a Senior member on: June 10, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
You should ask The Pharmacist and Lauda to respond here.
I tagged him.  An older member should know better than to sell an account here like that, and as far as I'm concerned it's even worse because of the type of account being sold.
I don't particularly agree with the tagging of this activity, but there really isn't really any point in rehashing that argument.

I do think if you are going to be tagging anyone for doing this, you should be tagging everyone (that you are aware of). So given your stance, I am glad you didn't make an exception for him.

If it was still 2015 sure. But, this isn't really an accepted thing to do anymore, and I would of thought they would of known that they wouldn't be able to shift this on if the loan was defaulted. I know they state that it was defaulted on a few years ago, but the only thing that matters is that they are trying to sell it now.
What should be done with the account then? Can you suggest an alternative which doesn't promote account selling and also gives seller some coverage over his loss? I don't encourage account sells either.
The answer is that lenders should not accept forum accounts as collateral. This answer is obviously damaging to the economy, however it is the only solution to make the trust system be applied equally to everyone.
3079  Economy / Reputation / Re: Green trusted Legendary member is selling a Senior member on: June 10, 2018, 04:28:43 PM
You should ask The Pharmacist and Lauda to respond here.
3080  Other / Meta / Re: Email security notifications on: June 09, 2018, 04:52:00 AM
OP, what happens after the account is unlocked by the admin ? What will be the email id in that account - earlier one or the one that hacker used?
It will be the one the hacker used. This allows it so even if an admin recovers an account the hacker still has access to the account. /s
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