personally, i invest a little bit amount to different gambling site, because if one close i don't have lose all my money.
first to change owner i have invested already in moneypot, later i have retired my bitcoin because don't like change of owner
Ok, I see. Thank you for your answer. Would you pls share which gambling sites you invest in? |
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So, the question is there, pls share your experiences.
What about Moneypot? Is it profitable? Reputable? If not, what is your best pick and why?
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There are endless discussions about which company is a ponzi and which one is a real miner.
This is my personal situation with HashOcean
Invested -0,25493000 11/05/2015
Payout 0,45329960
Profit 0,65775699 (Includes BTC used for new buys)
Net Result 0,1983696
Daily Average 0,002074943 Profit/DFI
Days from invest 317,00
Total Days to ROI 122,86 Payout/Average
Days Left to ROI -95,60 Invested-payout/Average
Current Power 453 KH/s
At the same time I've lost 0,50 in hashnest, now I'm recovering slowly using market to buy/sell GHS, but as I've see in cloud mining you have "honest" with ensured negative profit and scammers with theoretical positive profits that sometimes becomes true and sometimes they run away with your money (I've earn some with hashocean, scrypt.cc and lost with ltcgear, hashprofit, zenminer) but always lost with genesis, hashnest and at that time zenminer suposes to be in the honest group.
So cloud mining is not an investment, it's a lottery, if you pick the correct scammer at the correct time you may win, you will loose in all the other cases.
The problem is that your winnings come from money stolen from somebody else. You know this and you approve this. So it s no different then stealing money from that other person by yourself. |
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here is some Factom TA:  Hahah. A good one. Maybe it goes over Ether, who knows. But for now, I would be much, much more happy with a slow growth, supported by data about implementation of Milestone 2. |
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Big time and ponzi and people ask around whether it pays or not? Greed is a very, very powerful motivator.
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Good stuff, paid on time this week. Hope the problems are behind us. Thx guys.
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It says 0.01793047 ETH = 7.37 USD which is obviously where the issue starts. The rest is just based off of that and multiplied by days.
1 ETH = $11.76 right now
That s what I say, we can only hope ether price goes up that much. For now, it does not seem so. Maybe once it switches to PoS. |
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I d build 10 ether mining rigs and ROI in 3 months. Think about next move later.
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It s simple, either the price goes up and doubles, due to reduced generation of new BTC or most of current miners will be shut down, which will in turn reduce difficulty and the race starts all over again. I prefer the first scenario but one simply can never know. Let s wait and see.
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Its not so hard..Reversal is at the doorstep now, Retrace Target Fib Level 50% at 0.0060 or at 61.8 % at 0.0066. After that possible 2nd Blow off phase, then return to mean.
Well, let s see how good you are at your prognosis. Waiting for that 0.006. |
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Be careful about getting miners from that website. This is how one of our community members got hacked and lost a lot of coins. |
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Hi hashflare, you say to buy eth has from you and profit over 250% .
this is my revenue forecast
0.01793047 ETH = 7.37 USD
1w 0.12551329 ETH = 51.59 USD
1m 0.5379141 ETH = 221.11 USD
6m 3.2274846 ETH = 1,326.69 USD
1y 6.54462155 ETH = 2,690.23 USD
my hasrate is 0.8 mhs
Look little bit strange!
Haha. You can only hope ETH price goes up this high. Obvious miscalculation. |
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3 months until we face the next halving. Unless the price doubles, 90% of current miners will have to shut down. Investing into cloud mining ATM s a very, very, VERY bad decision.
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So glad to see DMD s been so stable, price rise, especially now when most of other PoS coins have been hit big time. Great community, thank you.
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I ve never had any luck following tech analysis recommendations. Let s see what happens this time. I highly doubt in the ability to predict crypto markets. |
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In my experience, greed is ABSOLUTELY the best motivator.
So I d say, MONEY TO BE MADE!
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Invest in me.
I use my own BTC to pay out.
PM me if you want to talk.
Hahaha, this is a really good recommendation. Send me your money!! |
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One thing you need to understand, as Brian mentioned, is that Factoids are not something Factom will or ever will spend Marketing resources on. We have always been clear what Factoids are, they give access to the protocol by being converted to Entry Credits. When you buy Factoids on an exchange you are not investing in Factom, you are speculating out of your own judgement. It's a free market and everyone is also free to do what they want. There seems to be a lot of this going on recently, possibly from people who is trying to hedge away from Bitcoin seen the current debate on block size. But this trend may or may not last much longer so be very careful where you put your money. If we wanted to promote (or as they say pump) Factoids we would have put this thread in altcoins/announcements. We didn't. However we had an old thread there but we decided to take it down as it was a distraction and unnecessary. What Factom has been doing and will continue to do is to attend as many Bitcoin/Blockchain/Fintech related conferences in the world to promote what Factom is trying to achieve. We have a for profit organization, Factom Inc, apart from the Factom Foundation (non-profit) and we are raising funds through regular Venture Capital to fund our operations. One of Factom Inc purposes is to promote the use of the protocol and we are doing pretty well on that end. In some cases we can announce our partnerships in some others we cannot due to non-disclosure agreements in place. Our potential customers are not bitcoiners but corporations, financial institutions, governments, insurance companies, registries, etc... Also check out our media page and see for yourself how much we have been talked about in the press: http://factom.com/media. Not many other projects have had that kind of coverage, so we are very happy with our current Marketing professionals and efforts. Milestone #2 is being worked on and we will release it when we deem it ready for release. All we can say is that it won't be much longer, can't be more precise. If we release an ETA and we don't meet that for any reason how would you feel about it? We are also working on improving our current GUI wallet, again to be released when ready. We are looking forward to Milestone #2 as much as you guys are, as it will be more functional (with a better and more comprehensive API) and allow for greater use of our system which in turn will increase usage of Entry Credits thus drive value. The team is full on it and yes they are also working on the new GUI wallet in parallel. Worry not, we hear your feedback, bear with us and stay tuned, we will make announcements in due course. We appreciate your support and are thrilled to have you with us. Much better reply then the previous ones. Thank you. |
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I'm sorry our incentives don't perfectly align. I have a long term perspective, which includes passing the milestones. My perspective extends beyond the next bubble.
You are speculating on factoids. Why? Because the price will go up? Why would it do that? I see two possible reasons:
1. Future speculators would think other people would want to speculate in the token, because there would be even more future speculators. This is not sustainable in the long term. This is what you are advocating for.
2. Future businesses need to publish data. Factom will help them create value, and they will solve real world problems. To access the system, they need to burn factoids. This is sustainable.
You want us to stop work on a sustainable system, and build a more user friendly unsustainable system. This is what I am hearing.
This is really pointless, so I ll stay out of this discussion. Let s wait to see if you ll respect deadline for the milestone 2. I sincerely hope this happens. |
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The most secure way to hold factoids is with a paper wallet. It is simple. It is safe. Descent to me means that you are asking for an insecure wallet. Security is tradeoff between security and convenience. Are you asking for a more convenient less secure wallet? Walletapp can be used securely. It can be used in offline mode, where the private keys never touch an online computer. It is similar to how Armory would be used. The transactions are prepared online, saved to a thumbdrive, then moved to an offline computer. The offline computer examines the transaction, then signs it. The signed transaction is put onto the thumbdrive then imported into the online computer, which broadcasts it. Last week you guys were wanting milestone2, this week you want a web wallet. We find milestone 2 is a higher priority. You seem to be thinking of factoids as an altcoin. factoids are not an altcoin. I define an altcoin as a token who's primary purpose is be be a store of value and payment network for purposes outside of the network. Litecoin and Monero are examples of this. With altcoins, and all money for that matter, speculators are anticipating someone in the future will also be a speculator. Factoids do not require that there be future speculators to have a value. It only requires that people use the system as a publishing platform. See the negative feedback article from earlier. We are working on making it a better publishing platform. This will do more to create value than even the most spectacular wallet you can imagine. In the upcoming version 0.3.6 you will be able to specify a remote factomd, so you can run fctwallet and factom-cli without having the blockchain. Will it be as easy as mybitcoin.com? No. http://observer.com/2011/08/mybitcoin-disappeared-with-bitcoins/ It will be a good solution for azure users to start using factom without having to download the blockchain. We do not see works Milestone2 until now, for some reason , and before the end of 1Q 2016 only 11 days left!
Where did you get the idea that the azure blog was talking about milestone 2? So what you re saying is that you do not need Factoid holders and investors, right? Since Factoid are not an altcoin, the only people who should hold them are those who plan to use the system as a publishing platform. I do not plan to use it that way. Whiteorg72, do you plan to use your Factoids to store data? Is there anyone here who plans to use Factoids to store data? This is my whole point, if your only interest is to serve that group of people who will actually use Factoids, then none of us, current investors, should support Factom and we can sell our holdings. If this is the way you treat your community, pls say so, so I know what should I do with my Factoids. Helping finance this project while you consider us relatively unimportant, just a vessel to help you reach your goals, is not something I m prepared to do. Brian, you might be really great at what you do but you know absolutely nothing about marketing. |
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