@nemgun
Step on enough toes and you will get your neg's  

And too serious ? ok Horus ... LOL

This is a serious matter.. we are talking about currencies not toys.
And don't you dare say that while making very serious money (real money) from the fools.
Real easy to chant "Lighten & up" when YOU are the mother fucker walking away with a million in cash siphoned from the greedy dregs around here.

You all never show 1 shred of concern for the countless victims who get burned.
Fun ?
That is insulting and offensive.

I seen a young guy here posting a topic around the start of 2014 roughly..
He said he did not know what to do and was asking for our advice.
What he had done was show up during the super hype of late 2013 with Altcoins..
And he bought up around 5 grand worth of NMC / NameCoins using money borrowed from his Mother.
He told her it was all exploding in popularity and will be able to get her the money back soon.
But..
The price just kept on dropping more and more (it never did recover to late 2013 times)
So he posted here asking what should he do because his mom was riding him for her money back she needed badly.

YOU ALL mouthed him off and fed him the ole cliche of "don't gamble what you can not afford to lose"
None of you showed any sympathy for the guy.. you laughed at him.

Sorry but i think you are all a bunch of greedy assholes.
You never say one fucking peep about the victims.. you don't care.
You simply ignore the trail of loss and push on.. because one way or the other your dead set on gettin' yur ROI'z.

The Horus mentality is..

Don't whine about it.. "have fun" ..and go make more Bitcoin (to lose to the next coin scam hype bullshit)

Mass coin cloner Shake put in his cloning guide he does it for Fun & Profit.
Yeah i bet it's real fucking fun fleecing victims so you can drive to the bank in a god damn lambo.
While most of his victims are long gone.. cashed out and left a broke loser.

This is not a system of Penny Stocks because there is no regulations like stocks.
No one is going to jail for mass corruption like the old lady who used to bake pies on TV named Martha Stewart.

There is no rule here saying you are not allowed to post scams.
You are free to scam it up then mouth off your victims saying "..afford to lose"
and "have fun".

When was the last time you mentioned MintPal ?
Or how RealSolid sold the McxNOW database with your logins to a guy to relaunch the exchange under a new name called RawX ?

There is 1 thing you all care about and your ACTIONS prove it loud & clear..

Ok "member"  

Yup you caught me.. i am sooooo jealous of your ROI'z  

Oh and if you would like to address any point i made i will be around.

..crying FUD for bucks $$$ much noob ?

It's crypto for "give me your money" (real money that is)

It was over in 2013 before you regged your account here..

I wouldn't invest in ANY because they are all a scammy centralized distribution method and more..

You forgot about the creating a brand new account here part of it. (like the dummy account you made)
..i have seen many on this topic alone.  

People i tried to start yet another Monero topic because i was thinking of why they did not push to get ANON into Bitcoin.
I posted because of that angle of things.. but !
There is clearly a lot more to it and any discussion is fine with me. (it is related)

Dark Market usage for example creeps into the discussion obviously.
And i want to remind you guys that there is NO Free Market.
Saying you are having *Some* success hiding from the current FIAT laws does not mean you are operating in a true lawless environment.

Dark Market users for example can & do regularly get arrested.
Because there *IS* laws.
Like the anti-money laundering laws (why they collect your ID etc)
They are here and they are in effect.. you have ZERO wiggle room to chant free market like a rebel.
I warned you all loudly they were going to do this and service after service gradually implemented laws.
I told you so !

Plugging your ears like a child and chanting our anon coin is working is a load of bullshit.
If they want your ass bad enough they will have it !
"Secure & Untraceable" printed on the Monero hoodies they sell are bullshit.

And your illusion that you HAVE a Free Market is a crock of shit !

You all mostly caw like crows in compete denial as you hand over your picture fucking ID.
You loiter around defending criminals and their services while handing your info to Coinbase or Cryptsy or Poloniex etc.
So you can make money off of ICO's the very definition of centralization.

No matter which way you look at it you guys are a load of fucking bullshit.. saying one thing then doing the opposite

..for money (real money cash fiat dollars $$$)

(while *pretending* to be Crypto "Currency" supporters)

The reality is if you were a supporter you would be after main stream adoption not catering to criminals.
Your push is in the opposite direction of adoption.
Hence it is not your goal in the first place.

Common sense would tell any idiot that making a coin more compliant with authorities would yield adoption.
Yet you are doing the exact opposite.

While you count your ROI'z accusing me of profiteering over & over  

Best ICO ? Ethereum LOL     

@PantminerS7
If you would like to address any specific part of what i said feel free to do so.

Your hinting i have some ulterior motive or secret agenda is bullshit.

Yeah i hacked cracked Steam so fucking what ? Jealous ?
It backed up a point i was making.. point being the crackers mentality.
I have spent half my life looking at walls looking for ways to exploit them.
I did not read about hackers on the news then strut around the web thinking i know things now.
I spent my time online DOING things that gave me real tangible experience.
..unlike the Monero idiots etc who showed up here with virtually no experience then made a shitcoin then spent the rest of the time shooting their mouth off like Earth greatest geniuses in human history leading the way into the future etc.

Take your leader of Monero.. "King" Risto.
He said his first coin was Monero.. so he spent i heard years ago around 882 BTC on them back when BTC was super high.
Since i think he spent far more.
Back when he was running around proclaiming BTC will be worth 1 million per coin.

Yup.. you are following the dick holster jiggling of a confessed mental patient with insane claims.

Whether "Secure & Untraceable" is true or not.. it will not stop them from printing it on the "Merch".

Anyway..  
You are all free to bring up your own *relevant* past experience too.
..if you have any.

PS:

Monero is DEAD.

Marvelous 

So since you MUST have read the story on the link i posted i want to ask you what do you think of it ?
Care to respond ?

If you put it in a bank you can collect guaranteed interest.. rather than Crypto-Gambling.
You will also most likely be able to get at it easier later if you jail supports transferring funds to the jail for you.
Many let you do this i am pretty sure.

I am shocked someone would even consider sitting on any Altcoin for 6 years.
Should it not be obvious that it's a monumentally risky idea ?
The odds are clearly heavily stacked against you even breaking even let alone profiting.

But since you mentioned already buying ETH and that other coin (What ever it is)
..i take it then your mind is already made up.

I also think something is not right here.. this topic is fishy.
I am skeptical your story is true.

What you are talking about are symptoms and signs of INTENT.
Although i think the engineering design behind ICO's are all 100% scammy.

But that is the underlying issue at hand.
And over time has gotten extremely difficult to prove.. these guys learned years ago to cover their tracks.
Our criticisms many years ago now.. taught them how to make a better scam coin (for profits)

AND THAT to me, is what the intent is about.
When you launch a currency for profits primarily then yeah, it's a fucking scam.

Pretty simple say one thing and do another.. is fraud.
Say it's a currency then focus 100% of the efforts on getting at a high price for trading on Poloniex etc.

I don't mind profits but i did not come here ONLY for that reason.
Since this is still the early days you should be here to be a supporter and be a profiteer *combined*.
And not a leach who showed up to siphon cash money fiat from anything not bolted down.
When you change the entire scene from how it was in the past to how it is now.. it's scammy.
From the top down in every aspect we have the entire crypto machine running full tilt in greed mode.

Take Cryptsy adding an obvious pointless clone coin.. say Elephant Coin.
They know it will be listed at almost 0 satoshi's.
They claim to add it for "user demand".
We SHOULD be trading things on exchanges because they HAVE value.
Not because we are putting hollow empty block chain shells onto trade platforms..
in the hopes a naive fool will come along and buy them with real money.
That is the reverse of what should be happening !

And do i see you all with your arms raised in disgust ? Fuck no !
NONE of you give two shits if these exchange companies who are there to make a profit do this.
Nor do you care that they violate the Free Market concept by collecting your Picture ID etc.
And engineering it all to run from centralized controlled points / back room boys gangs etc.

You all are in fact full of fucking god damn shit.

What that fucking little pimple faced prick Butters did with Ethereum would have landed him large jail time in the real Stock Markets.. like Martha Stewart or Berni Madoff.
Here in Crypto ?
All of a sudden those "ideals" you are arguing about go out the window..
Because his team is pumping the coin.. and YOU smell the money.

And this is why the greed machine is doomed.
Since the entire scene functions like a Pyramid scheme then it's doomed to fail.
There has to be more users coming in than profit takers.. and this is not happening.
Because the outside world sees what i see !
And they sure as hell are not stupid are are not rushing here to buy ICO scam coins from Butters.

All this is 24/7 is a tornado of lies from scammy greedy bullshitters.
Who want nothing more than to perpetuate the slimy greedy corrupt system we have in place.
So they can pad their wallets.. WITH BITCOIN / FIAT. (not what ever shitcoin they are flogging)

We should be doing some TestNet work with compliance.. not the other way.
Why ? Because we want a crypto currency *USED* ..not traded on Poloniex for profit.

The large infrastructure i mentioned is out there and it is resisting crypto coins.
I'd like to see us all move forward and make progress.

So far after 8 years we have 6,000 "Test Net" coin ANN topics  
Get it ?
How many times have you all seen me ask some new coin shill why he didn't use test net ?
Why did he have to put it on Poloniex for profits to test it ?

Test Net ? your telling me.. LOL
I have been harping on that for years !

Guys, there is a problem.
What i am seeing is the solution is to go full ANON then go full anti-compliance.
Somehow in your minds you think this is the answer to the problem.. of adoption.

By the way Bitcoin already has a had a long term reputation of being a drugs & guns criminal coin thingy for profits on the web.. i know i have had pretty much every person i ever talked to on the street tell me that to my face.
A recent story in my news paper mentioned how the current financial guys admitted how they hide any involvement with Crypto from the existing FIAT system people.
..because it's regarded as scammy ass bullshit !

AND THAT IS FUCKING BITCOIN ..never mind pushing a far more anon styled coin.

You are all mostly in massive denial about the situation we are in.
And your half ass solution to criticism is to make things worse.

I am telling you all this because i don't think your efforts are working.
I am telling you the problem with anti-money laundering laws exist and that circumventing them is not a bright idea.
The govt's don't take too kindly to that sort of thing.. nor do they appreciate you failing to pay your taxes on the ROI's you brag about making off of the 6,000 "TestNet" Like penny stocks" "coins" you flog and defend here.. used by criminals to spread child porn or drugs or machine guns.

I am all for freedom but when the scale is tilted so far in favor of the criminals then ya we need to put in laws.
Not abolish them all..

Who is it benefiting from the lack of reg's and anon services or coins ?
Criminals.. from new scam coin pushers to ransomware to Dark market dirt bags.
And you all chant Free Market.. to pad your Poloniex wallets so you can count your ROI's.

Have some fucking class and think of the victims for fucks sakes.
Have some sympathy for the people burned by Gox or Cryptsy.. don't defend that shit by saying we don't need laws or ties to fiat etc.
Wrong.. we need the opposite and you will be saying it too once your coins vanish on an exchange and you show up here ASKING FOR THE POLICE to arrest some exchange staff.

The reality is you loiter around spewing bullshit for profits.
You don't actually care about adoption or we would be further along by now.

SAY what ever the fuck you all want.. your actions betray you though.
And the world sees it too !

Deliberately violating established criminal law is not going to further the crypto coin agenda.
Anti-money laundering laws were created for a reason people.. and it was not to stop your ROI's kidiot profiteers  

Yup.. a new forum section for this topic and all the others like it.
Apparently the rule here is bumping topics is forbidden.. and..
Re-posting the same question over & over non stop is A+ ok 

He's right they were exposed by a MLM buster site in 2014 (see the scam topic in scam section on it)
MLM = multi level marketing / scam.
http://behindmlm.com/companies/leo-review-personal-development-dvds-recruitment/

And where do we start ? again LOL
This fraud does not give up.. i think he is paid to spam here about this shit.

He has not responded yet to the premine questions though.
According to the ANN topic 50 million was premined but then it says only 10 went to the foundation.
So where the fuck did the 40 million go ?

And how many coins did the foundation make by staking the premine all these years ?

How much are the bounties paid ? 35 coins ? 20 coins ?
Hilarious when the premine 50 MILLION and stake them for 2 years ahhaahhaha  

Obvious scam is obvious.

Dan can jump off his "LeoTower" (if it exists) ..and if he lives he can call me on his "LEOphone"
..from the "LEOcafe"

Google this bullshit before spending your money people.  

The replies i am getting here are a failure and so is MONERO.

I can light up your ass's for eternity ..each and every single point squashed.
You guys have nothing on me or my points i made.. your done, game over.

My agenda ?

Adoption dumb fucks.

I need money ? I keep giving away any coins i get because i don't want them.

Retorts about being jealous and wanting to "buy in" ? = ROFL
I don't buy dead scam coins for profit  

We are suppose to be opposing the Govt ?
Where the flying fuck did that idiotic bullshit come from ?
Who the fuck told you morons Satoshi made Bitcoin to "Stick it to the man" ..like a rebellious naive teen.
If that is the core of your little Morono defense you guys are in a lot of trouble.

Further more.. learn to read brain dead retards..
I said "Compromise" endlessly since 2013.
..in other words idiots i said you can still aim for your rebellious childish free market angst PROFITEERING.
And still try and work WITH the powers that be right now (not like you have a fucking choice)
Which by the way is your real agenda for the rebellious free market rabble..
You all simply want to protect your scam coin machine where you make 6,000 ANN topics to profit from.
THAT and that alone is why you fucking idiots want no regulations.

It's not like you resist them (verbally only on a forum) because you're all using Dark Markets or something.
Nope you are here spouting off simply because you think your ROI's are threatened by reg's.
How many of you contributed to drafting any regulations again ?
NONE.. you are content to sit here denying they exist.. as they are continually implemented anyway

And an exception to the rules as always does not mean fuck all.
Just because you CAN buy Monero tard coins via some non-exchange method..
..doesn't change the fact all the trading is done on Poloniex etc.

Your citing a random exception to the rule does not invalidate the damn rule idiots.
Nice try though.. again (you play that card here like a broken record)

You retards actually think you are going to get global real world user adoption on a large scale with out connecting to the FIAT system and opposing the current regulatory authorities ?

THEN YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED !

I can prove it infinitely too.. go ahead cocky little crypto-rebels..
Go tell the tax man you made money on crypto and did not claim it.. see what happens cocky fuckheads.

By the way.. Ripple + Fincen

PS:
FBI + Localbitcoins arrests.

What part of reading English do you idiots fail at ?
I can see you want to argue but.. well, you just don't know how.  

You wish you had some little retort or defense for ANON coins but you don't.
ANd the general pubic sees it too !
They think what i think and the market prices of the coins proves it.
You are not fooling anyone other than the 0.0000000000001% of the worlds population here bag holding Monero for PROFITS.

You should be worried little expert crypto-pundits.. your anon bullshit has no where left to go but down.

And supporting NO LAWS for a philosophical ideal is retarded.
When you are only doing so to pad your wallets.
Meanwhile in real reality the lack of reg's is used by Dark Market drug dealers and pedo's and crypto criminals making scams.

Finding some stupid excused to abolish law so you can chant freedom is stupid.
And spare me the cliche'd retort of it "don't work"
Murder is illegal now isn't it ? Laws exist but it still happens so should we abandon the law then ?
THAT is your tired old ass logic on the matter..
You guys got some nerve.. i seen a recent news story where a wannabee Hitman was on the Dark Markets.
And here you are defending him chanting Free Market like retards.

Laws exist for a fucking reason.
And they ALREADY exist dumb fucking morons.. did you not see my Paypal comment earlier ?
When i Google searched the email i got from them i found the same one sent to a guy here in 2012
and what do we see here on the forum ?
An entire forum sub-section dedicated to encouraging users to violate the PP TOS and get nailed.

Crypto is ALREADY 90% reliant on transfers to and from FIAT.
Sitting here saying we don't need them is a retarded crock of moronic bullshit.

Like the story i told you all the other day how i was chatting with a big site owner who was using a hoster that accepted Bitcoin only.. yet he had no idea to the fuck to get the damn bitcoins and was possibly going to have his site shut down.
What do you think the Bitcoin noob is going to end up doing ?
HE IS GOING TO BUY BITCOINS WITH FIAT DUMB FUCKING MORONS.
I know.. because he told me he was going to.

You have NO retort.. 0
You idiots are fucked.
Your ANON bullshit is dead and going no where and beyond doomed.

The fact you spout off otherwise is deceitful bullshit.... for PROFITS (on Poloniex so you can buy BTC with FIAT then trade them with your Picture ID for ROI's)

AKA: The reason you don't want reg's in the first place.. ROI's  

This my cocky stupid crypto-contrarians is 100% completely obvious to the world watching.
You are not fooling anyone and are wasting you're time and suckering in naive young millennials who suffer from stupidity and believe the kool-aid drinking rebellious free market rabble (for profits on poloniex with your picture ID)

We don't need laws or banks etc ?

Tell that to the hundred's of not thousands of Police agencies hunting Ransomware spreaders.
Your buddies.. you are here defending (for profits on Poloniex with your Picture ID)

I am jealous ? Of your ROI'z ?  
I think not scum bags.. i just have Integrity unlike the rest of you pricks.
I actually care about main stream adoption or RansomWare victims or guys dying from Fentanyl bought on Dark Markets or stupid teens thinking they can trust the security of a DM coin anon claim from Monero as Untraceable.
Or the close to billion dollars stolen from exchanges from Gox to Mintpal to RawX / McxNOW or Cryptsy etc etc
Or all the other services that rip you off with no repercussions.. such as Escrows or Pools.

Nope assholes i am not here defending all those pricks to brag about my ROI's using a sock puppet account you just created.
Nope i am here holding my head up high with some class & integrity.

Monero is dead.

It is not going anywhere or doing anything.. it peaked and can only go down from here.

You guys create these anon GIMMICK coins over & over.. to profit off them .

I seen hours ago an arrest in Canada where they had to call in hazmat suite guys.
They needed to use suits made for nuclear disasters and quarantine the place.. why ?
Well let me tell you, Carfentenyl can kill an adult by touching a couple grains with your hands.
Wrap your head around that !
..risky packages sent by snail mail all over the world daily.
There is an epidemic going on all over with mass deaths associated with Fentanyl.
A lot of it is sold on Dark Markets paid for with Bitcoin.
I know i seen another news report recently saying that exactly (Alphabay)

So no.. sleazy little fucking profiteers i do NOT support your scam coin gimmick anon bullshit for profits.
Sorry but i have more class and integrity than the entire shitcoin scene combined.
And be grateful i told you HOW TO GET RICH.
Sadly you are too stupid too listen and would rather be global predators or their enablers.. for profits.
Think of that greedy naive rebels next time you are helping a family member infected with Ransomware.

I wonder what you all define as a "scam coin"

To me i have to start with..

- Launching a "Currency" with the underlying goal of trading it for profits on Exchanges.

No Altcoin of the 6,000 estimated ANN topics has come close to achieving what Bitcoin has.
Yet these "Dev's" are selling you a pipe dream.. an illusion.

It's a transparent and blatant facade.
You can't sit there and make 6 fucking thousand ANN topics and claim you think everyone that comes along will get "ADOPTED"

And if it does not get adopted.. then it is not a fucking "Currency"

Like it was claimed to be.. at launch.

AKA: A fucking scam.

Many of these dev's put on a convincing face with the story.
But at the end of the day their claims are preposterous.
History shows us they have no chance in hell at adoption.

They don't care how unlikely it is.. as long as it ends up traded on Poloniex for $100 a coin (the real goal)

A well known coin cloner who made guides on making coins said he did it for "Fun & Profit"
If you are releasing a coin for fun & profit then it is in fact 100% certified a scam.
Such as Doge coin.

The charade is obvious, it always has been.
But you all "play along" because you heard you can make Money (real money) doing it.

Most of you all play games with what you define a scam.
You are not interested in figuring out which ones are a scam.
You are interested in figuring out which one will get you Bitcoin profits.

..so yeah 99% of these fucking things are actually a scam.

LOL what ?  

Did it occur to you maybe he deserved it ? ..we don't know, he didn't say.

@OP
I would consider maybe Litecoin.. MAYBE !

But i would most likely just stick with it all in Bitcoin then put my wallet.dat on a usb drive and stick it in a bank vault or something.. bury it somewhere ?

Sorry but 6 years ? That is a LOOOONG (BAD) time to sit on Altcoins !

Oh and uhhhhh WTF ?
I just seen story of a guy who killed and robbed an elderly couple and his lawyer is asking for 4 to 6 years.

Where i live you get about 6 years for manslaughter sometimes.
And chronic bank robbers can get that much too.. i have known a few of them.

SO.. if you are sentenced to 6 yrs.. you had to have done some pretty serious shit.
But don't worry though.. Rob feels sorry for you and your "unfortunate" situation

Oh and the BobSurplus comment earlier was funny LOL
Is that all you got left ? hahahha

We hear.. "one day..."

Well people who showed here to PROFIT..
I posted what i did on the anon crap for that exact reason.

Your ANON coin will forever be pidgin-holed as some Bitcoin offshoot niche / gimmick scheme coin.

You can not achieve world wide global general usage adoption by the public when you oppose the powers in control of FIAT.
Go for it.. walk into a major bank and ask them how they feel about Monero or Anon coins.  

I've been pushing the animals head into the food and it won't eat.. AKA: you all refuse to listen.
You all just keep chanting "Trust me" and "One day" basically.. with diversionary reasoning.

Best case scenario you get some minor adoption with dark Market usage and some trading with your picture ID on Poloniex then later hacks or exploits show up rendering Monero insecure then.. Dark Market arrests happen and Marshall's auction off more crypto coins.

There will be no world wide global adoption.. ever.

I think you all know that too and yet argue on with it all simply to guard your bags and profit from the "Scheme"

You have to get past the old guard people.
Your attempts to say we don't need FIAT ties are silly bullshit..

Take for example when i sent $2,500 twice from BTCe to Paypal.
PP launched an investigation and seized my funds and made me get a signed affidavit saying i violated their TOS.
Which i did.. i never did read the fine print.
Which said usage of ANY virtual currency with their service is forbidden.

WHAT.. THE.. FUCK.. did i just fucking say ?
The old guard is standing there and they are blocking your adoption.. on Bitcoin (never mind anon coin variants)

And when you just need 1 or 2 key leaders to Silk Road you are probably willing to bribe an exchange employee to leak all your info.
BAM.. arrested.

Bin Laden / Lambo syndrome.

In other words your security is compromised.. by passing the 13,000 layers of encryption.
Such as the Firewall i have use i have keygen'd many times for 4 years..
I also patched it with 1 byte changed to render the activation system on it broken.
Get it ? I did not have to brute force crack and break the hashing algo it used ..i went AROUND it !

I am talking about the trend on the web last decade or two..
We have seen a whole slew of ways that security can be compromised.
And all we see from Monero idiots is them pointing to their vault door howling and cawing like crows how their damn DOOR is "secure"
So.. fucking.. what !
I don't give two flying shits about your fucking little door.. i laugh at your god damn door. LOL
If i need in that vault bad enough i will make friends with the Bank Manager

I think there is a variety of problems with the PUSH for an anon coin.
There seems to be no way to get through to many guys around here.
They are just plugging their ears and saying La La La La.. endlessly

To me i side stepped the actual determination of whether it is a suitable goal to aim for.
I have all along simply strived to show users how there is a glaring & obvious problem.
ADOPTION.

I just finished saying that when the LBC guys got arrested they broke anti-money laundering laws.
I believe it was because they sold person to person 30 grand worth of Bitcoin.
The Florida law (i think) is that any transaction that goes over 10 grand MUST be properly documented.
Which with an Anon coin it will not be..

Note: the Florida anti-money laundering laws are common all over the globe.

So you have a massive barrier to adoption right there.
And adoption *IS* what this fucking bullshit is about.
It is *NOT* about catering to a criminal niche on Dark Markets bound to get arrested for crack cocaine and Pedo porn after using Monero. (for profits on Poloniex after handing over your Picture ID)
This my fellow shitcoin'ers is NOT what we are striving for is it ?

What are we striving for ?
To get a main stream digital currency adopted world wide by the GENERAL PUBLIC.

So how the fuck do you do that when the coin violates FIAT law and you are pretty much stuck using FIAT to buy the damn coins ?
..showing your fucking ID at Poloniex (for example)

I agree with the guy who commented before me (i think) hard to get his advanced comment a little though.

But that was never my goal around here.
I stand neutral on the ANON matter..

What i have long tried to portray is that i see a problem we can not overcome ..like it or not.
And that would be 2 key areas.. Security and Regulations.

The niche users who are going to have minor levels of adoption are at risk.
And i do not want them to get burned believing in the Monero "merch" Hoodies that say "Secure & Untraceable"

And then for the main stream i don't see large adoption happening if you are forever opposing the govt regulations.

Think of it this way people..
Had we have been spending the last 8 years working on a compromise with regulations
we may have already achieved major world wide adoption on a larger scale than Bitcoin ever achieved.

Many people in Crypto have all along tried to say we don't need ties to FIAT.
That is not practical or realistic.
Crypto needs it ..like it or not guys.

The notion that in our life time FIAT can be dropped in favor of a digital currency is silly.
So since we will still need FIAT for a long time to come users WILL be using it.
So how do they get Crypto coins ? They buy them with FIAT for fuck sakes !

I don't know how you can possibly explain the obvious to people so many times and have them still not get it.

I usually get mouthed off because of my "opinions".. but i don't have any.
I have FACTS !
For example Anti-Money Laundering laws DO in fact exist and yes Coinbase did rat out KickAssTorrents.com
Yes those guys were arrested in Florida years ago by an FBI sting.

Chanting free market does not keep you out of a jail cell Crypto-Pundits. 

And i think most push the anon altcoin idea simply to pad their wallets.
Yet if they were smart they would be rallying for adding regulations and compliance.
Want money ?
Think about it.. cater to a niche Dark Market crew of users who constantly have their funds seized..

vs.

Catering to PLANET EARTH and all it's 7+ billion users.

Like fuck people, if you REALLY wanted money then you are doing the opposite to achieve this goal.

Imagine being the guy buying cheap coins now and seeing 4.6 billion users swarm in to buy your shitcoins.
Wrap your little kidiot retard profiteers heads around that shit !

I swear to bloody god it's like you guys all mostly spend all your time doing the opposite.
Rather than moving forward you just go faster and faster in reverse collectively.

Regulations are coming i said for years to guys who laughed at me calling me names.
I was right !
Canada was the first major country to add crypto to tax guidelines officially (before the USA)
So..
Resisting them means ignoring them ..at your peril.
It means then not taking part in drafting the regulations we want and would be ok compromising with.
As i said for years we should have been all along contributing to the process
or will get what we get..
Which will not be something we like or want.. what you were all worried about in the first place. LOL

In another world or time i would be ok with ANON shit or no regulations.
But i have to face reality and look out the windows and be an adult.
I have to be rational and realistic and i hope you all are willing to join me  

..after all i genuinely believe that is where your "profits" reside anyway.

I kind of agree..

I think there must be a synergy between FIAT and Crypto Coins.
Users need to be able to swap them back & forth easily.

I was talking to a guy who owns a major File Sharing site the other day.
And he told me had issues with bills.. his hoster he switched to a while back takes Bitcoin only.
Problem is he does not know much about Crypto stuff..

So, having to explain a TON of shit and send a guy to jump through lots of hoops for the money conversation is a bitch.
AND it NEEDS to be done.. a lot !

This comment so far sets up my main point..
ANON features and compliance.

Exchanges started collecting user ID why now ?
Guys on Localbitcoins were arrested by the FBI in a Florida parking lot people.
So uhh duh ?
We have a problem.. and it goes far beyond the perception of Bitcoin etc.

If violating anti-money laundering laws gets Crypto users arrested then we have a problem guys.
And you think tacking on ANON shit will assist in smoothing over this conflict between the authorities ?
I think not.. don't be stupid.

And why does this matter ?

The point i just made *IS* the god damn barrier to adoption.

Which is what i posted here already as to what "Feature" is needed"

Dark Market Fentanyl Silk road Monero Crack & AK47's Coin is not what we need.
We need the majority of the world to adopt a world digital currency.
We do not need or want to cater to a small minority who will all end up in jail eventually.
And yeah a fuckton of the DM users do in fact get arrested on a regular basis.

I don't like the idea of reg's.
I DO like the idea of real adoption and usage though.. and if FIAT law is the barrier then we gotta figure out a solution.
A compromise will have to be made.. we have to suck it up and realize the lofty ambition of full decentralization and freedom etc and just not doable.. yet.
In the mean time we got to make this work.
Kind of hard when you are in a parking lot in Florida with a Swat team pointing guns at you.