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3081  Economy / Speculation / Re: where is bitcoin going on: February 04, 2014, 09:21:34 PM
3082  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is your answer to "Bitcoin is a Ponzi Scheme" ? on: February 04, 2014, 11:22:43 AM
3083  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 11:17:07 AM
I think it would be an interesting experiment for one of the "western" exchanges to offer a 0% trading fee promotion for about a week/month. Amongst other benefits, I believe that in such a scenario the volume of this exchange would exceed quite considerably the chinese exchanges volume. Which naturally raises the following question: why are we following them?
I'm not sure if this is relevant at all. BTCE's fee promotion with fees as low as 0.05%. It might be drastically different if there were actually 0 fees.

3084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 10:54:08 AM
Wall removed. Price above 800 again. I was wrong. The dumper failed to create panic.
Ok lows tested. Now we can go up Wink
Must suck to lose your coins that way Smiley
It's still a downtrend, and not that terrible for whoever dumped - theyre only down a few bucks. It's not like we just recovered from 720 to 800, or 380 to 600...
3085  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 10:40:05 AM
3086  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 04, 2014, 10:18:31 AM
The final capitulation will come in (a) February-March, (b) later, or (c) not at all.


China has exhausted the bad news
Until the chinese exchanges or corporate bank accounts actually get shut down.

You might still remember (in 2011-12) how price rose from $2 to $7, backed down to $5, and we had some months of stability and no doubt some were waiting for cheap coins
It was below the trendline after a 93% decline. The previous ATH was $32 and not $7.

It is good to remember that if you take some of the fiat off-exchange, it will also reduce the systemic risk and add to your risk management even if you lose on the trade.
Do you mean fiat in a bank account, btc in cold storage, or both?
3087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 09:23:47 AM

Or maybe the hacker were the ones which took down the news to buy a few more days...... It is 50/50 at the moment or just you know....HODL...in cold storage.
Or the office realized they mistake posting the news on their site publicly too early after it was caught on reddit and everyone started withdrawing their funds. In any case btce is now the first place I'm going to be building my cold storage position from.
3088  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 04, 2014, 09:14:05 AM
Where are those $400 coins?? I am getting really tired of waiting.
3089  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 08:47:13 AM
The russian news caused btce price to rise as traders panic bought their way out of btce.  Now the russian news is fake and btce is still buying. It should be selling instead.
3090  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC-e legal problems? on: February 04, 2014, 07:36:12 AM
3091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 07:33:07 AM
3092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 07:15:39 AM
Gox: -10%
Btcchina: -10%
Huobi: -30%
Btce: -20%  (altcoins: -90%)
Bitfinex: -15%
Bitstamp: -60%+
3093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2014, 06:21:53 AM
the bubbles are deflating less and less because its becoming more and more apparent what going on, digital money is the future, invest now, or you will be forced to work for 0.001BTC a month in a few years.  Wink

The guy who made it (a Belgian economist) thinks bitcoin will correct to 600-400 in the following months.

everyone thought it would correct to 600-400.... even me, but i mean we watched all the FUD go by and, nothing....

now i'm thinking wtf kind of FUD is going to bring the price down to 600.....

seriously, whats it gana take?!
Maybe not FUD but actions. BTCChina actually goes down. Huobi actually goes down. Btce actually goes down. Gox crumbles. Bitstamp is the only remaining market leader to support the price.

Or anything involving Stamp would be really bad because they're basically the single point of failure of the entire commercial bitcoin ecosystem.
3094  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Legal problems for Btc-e ? on: February 04, 2014, 04:58:34 AM
I found somewhere in the trollbox 8 months ago when "support" said "We are in Russia"

http://trollboxarchive.com/search.php?search_type=username&search=support
3095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 09:11:03 AM
Holy cow gox under 1000 volume.
3096  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 05:25:26 AM
3097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2014, 04:53:24 AM
On btce, there were a bunch of 50 and 250btc bids totaling 1000btc at $804, and then they were all just pulled.

Only on btce do I see so many fake walls moving around and traders changing their orders every 3 seconds. Nowhere else (except maybe Huobi where the entire exchange is fake in the first place).
3098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation Bet: Bitcoin will hit $600 (non-gox price) by 3-22-14 on: February 02, 2014, 09:01:49 AM
I agree with this, i think we're going to see $500-$600 range again. I'm still not convinced we can keep going up without the price bottoming out one more time, It's not unrealistic to expect this price. Especially if positive news come out of china, think about it big investors dont want to buy BTC for $800-$1000, they want to get in cheap to maximize their long term returns, so they will manipulate the market accordingly.


But i don't agree with those calling for $200-$300 , that will require a massive event that threatens Bitcoin's existence

the smart investors already had their cheap bitcoins......twice. 550 and 350. we could go back again, or we could be on the next wave. neither would surprise me. I think it's a pretty fair bet.
Not if they sold those $400 coins at $1000. Then they're looking for cheap btc again. Wink
3099  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation Bet: Bitcoin will hit $600 (non-gox price) by 3-22-14 on: February 02, 2014, 04:14:25 AM
Programmable money - one day we can program in bets for price speculation.
3100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2014, 04:13:14 AM
What's up with gox? JPY withdrawal fixed?
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