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3081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 26, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
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My IP is in the list when I check with my darkcoind, and in another client, and on the poolhash.org list, but I haven't had any payments yet.

Payment is based on variance, just like finding block rewards. If you don't get a block it doesn't mean you aren't mining correctly. Just that it takes time to get paid because you have equal chance with the other nodes. So for each round if there is like 400 nodes, you have 0.25% to get paid. On average, you'll get paid once every 400 rounds, but variance can impact this and you might get paid twice, or you might be get paid once in 800 rounds. In the long run this smooths out.

(factor in that some payments are currently skipped which is improving but is not 100% yet)

Is it true Masternodes will be used for other services in the near future ?
It is important because it means new kind of payments and yet better ROI.

The potential is there but for now the focus is in finishing DarkSend, development wise (as it should be).

I believe this potential will be exploited as it has also been recognized by new "arrivals" on the competitive front. X11coin is planning to use a "supernode" system, which it plans to offer services from (for now their priority is evolving the anonymity).

Personally I'd do it with different masternodes than those providing anonymity. Like the anonymity masternode gets 10%, the service-related masternode gets some extra % (or fees), the miners the rest. I'd do that in order to compartmentalize the DDOS danger of masternodes and the effect that could have on the new services impacted.
3082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 26, 2014, 11:06:54 AM
[04:51] <evan82> aaxx1503, a very huge anon upgrade. very secret

 so huge
   very secret
 much anon
   wow


If I said I didn't want to write something similar as a commentary, I'd lie Tongue
3083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 26, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
Last night on irc:

[04:49] <evan82> aaxx1503, masternodes w/ multiple ticket entries Cheesy
...
[04:50] <evan82> aaxx1503, send 3k drk to a masternode and it'll get elected 3x as often
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[04:50] <evan82> RC3
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[04:51] <aaxx1503> evan82, ah ok! Sounds great, what about the anoninimity upgrade? Denominated change and something else secret ?
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[04:51] <aaxx1503> evan82, you said it would rival ring signatures, that's why I'M asking
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[04:51] <evan82> aaxx1503, a very huge anon upgrade. very secret
3084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | первый анонимные монеты | первый X11 | перв on: May 26, 2014, 10:30:45 AM
what happened. average bank all unacknowledged

Hard fork yesterday. Update client.
3085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 26, 2014, 10:00:39 AM
Due to lower diff, block reward is actually 6-8, so even if it skips payments for 20% of the blocks, the payout can be like 20% to 60% higher than minimum reward (5). It should overcompensate in terms of income.

3086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 26, 2014, 12:10:32 AM
Just to clarify - the windows binaries have not yet been released, correct?

Seems to be the case.
3087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 26, 2014, 12:04:22 AM
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Here is the Cryptsy deposit that they show as no confirmations: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/f8d8746090b4ff7e3be30e88b51e7bba9724622ab15c106cedd56964b7dcc9d5

Anyone have any insight what that might mean?  I don't read blockchain very well.

The money seem to have been sent, in a recent block, therefore most probably on the right fork (the fact that the transaction exists in that block explorer also means that) and not a stuck alternate fork, so cryptsy's system will see them at some point.

If they are having problems with their wallet, they'll see them when they update it.
3088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 25, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Please update ASAP!

Some bad masternodes set off a chain reaction which forked the network
into many smaller forks. To ensure you're on the correct fork please
update your daemon and run with the command "-reindex". It may take a
bit to reindex, but you'll be on the correct fork.

Source code:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin

Stable version ( v0.9.4.8 ):
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoind
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt

RC2 ( v0.10.8.8 ):
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc/darkcoind
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc/darkcoin-qt

Windows binaries to come soon.

BUMP
3089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 25, 2014, 11:17:14 PM

Thing is that Cryptsy does that kind of stuff even on "normal" days with no forks. You can't tell what's going on for real.

Check with that

http://explorer.darkcoin.io/chain/DarkCoin

...blockexplorer to see the transaction if it exists... Also check if your client is in the latest block that is listed on the block explorer. Also update to 9.4.8.
3090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 25, 2014, 11:06:58 PM

Nice.

Are the exchanges running on the correct fork? Poster above sais he sent money that don't get confirmed and the exchange is seeing them. Does that mean both are in the wrong fork?

3091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 25, 2014, 10:17:27 PM
Please update ASAP!

Some bad masternodes set off a chain reaction which forked the network
into many smaller forks. To ensure you're on the correct fork please
update your daemon and run with the command "-reindex". It may take a
bit to reindex, but you'll be on the correct fork.

Source code:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin

Stable version ( v0.9.4.8 ):
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoind
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt

RC2 ( v0.10.8.8 ):
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc/darkcoind
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc/darkcoin-qt

Windows binaries to come soon.

BUMP
3092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS | 3 Exchanges | The first POS X11 Anonnymous wallet!! on: May 25, 2014, 07:49:48 PM
I like Dark but come on, the whole thing is nothing but a slick marketing and product launch.

There is no marketing associated with Darkcoin. No sponsorships, giveaways, promo events, etc. There was a conscious decision to wait, get the job done and then market. How can you market a product which is beta and not final?

However, coinmarketcap caught up, whales caught up and the pressure escalated. Then global media caught up, then LTC and BTC holders started hedging with DRK and the whole thing blew enormously in terms of coin value and attention.

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then spring this whole masternodes concept that encourages hoarding of the coins to keep the network alive which gets everyone in a buying spree, neverminding the fact the system is setup to further more enrich all those early miners who have the lion's share of the loot.

There must be negative incentives to prevent bad actors from mapping the network. No dis-incentive => someone launches 10.000 nodes and has 99.9% chance to map all transactions. If you make it "costly" to own the nodes you prevent the bad actor attack to a sufficient degree.

XC will "suffer" criticism on this regard for a while until it comes up with another or similar solution.
And then it'll be a POS Darkcoin clone.

If you write your own code, you are generally not considered a clone but the distinction can be elusive for non-coders. The key will be to maximize the technology and make it as anonymous as it can get.
Maybe not a direct clone, but supernodes sound familiar. Special nodes that do mixing, where have we seen that before?

DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform

I think the potential for masternode application is being considered for DRK too (extra services through the masternodes etc) although the scope of services may vary. Altcoins are certainly evolving...

Will you also implement a mining reward schedule or fee-based-payment for x11coin supernodes?
3093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS | 3 Exchanges | The first POS X11 Anonnymous wallet!! on: May 25, 2014, 07:40:08 PM
I like Dark but come on, the whole thing is nothing but a slick marketing and product launch.

There is no marketing associated with Darkcoin. No sponsorships, giveaways, promo events, etc. There was a conscious decision to wait, get the job done and then market. How can you market a product which is beta and not final?

However, coinmarketcap caught up, whales caught up and the pressure escalated. Then global media caught up, then LTC and BTC holders started hedging with DRK and the whole thing blew enormously in terms of coin value and attention.

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then spring this whole masternodes concept that encourages hoarding of the coins to keep the network alive which gets everyone in a buying spree, neverminding the fact the system is setup to further more enrich all those early miners who have the lion's share of the loot.

There must be negative incentives to prevent bad actors from mapping the network. No dis-incentive => someone launches 10.000 nodes and has 99.9% chance to map all transactions. If you make it "costly" to own the nodes you prevent the bad actor attack to a sufficient degree.

XC will "suffer" criticism on this regard for a while until it comes up with another or similar solution.
And then it'll be a POS Darkcoin clone.

If you write your own code, you are generally not considered a clone but the distinction can be elusive for non-coders. The key will be to maximize the technology and make it as anonymous as it can get.
3094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 25, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Now this quote makes you retarded now, what happens if your "darksend" will send us to the value down below 100statoshi ? Then i can trade my invested coins for penny prices ?

Never go full retard.
3095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS | 3 Exchanges | The first POS X11 Anonnymous wallet!! on: May 25, 2014, 07:24:07 PM
I like Dark but come on, the whole thing is nothing but a slick marketing and product launch.

There is no marketing associated with Darkcoin. No sponsorships, giveaways, promo events, etc. There was a conscious decision to wait, get the job done and then market. How can you market a product which is beta and not final?

However, coinmarketcap caught up, whales caught up and the pressure escalated. Then global media caught up, then LTC and BTC holders started hedging with DRK and the whole thing blew enormously in terms of coin value and attention.

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then spring this whole masternodes concept that encourages hoarding of the coins to keep the network alive which gets everyone in a buying spree, neverminding the fact the system is setup to further more enrich all those early miners who have the lion's share of the loot.

There must be negative incentives to prevent bad actors from mapping the network. No dis-incentive => someone launches 10.000 nodes and has 99.9% chance to map all transactions. If you make it "costly" to own the nodes you prevent the bad actor attack to a sufficient degree.

XC will "suffer" criticism on this regard for a while until it comes up with another or similar solution.
3096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 25, 2014, 07:16:20 PM
You seemed to forget that attacking users won't get your really far. So you are against the freedom of directly copying other sources ? Where do you live in ? You seemed to forget that even NXT is open source now and there were still no real copy of it. Its not always someone wants to steal your idea.

Yeah well DRK has a precedent (X11, DGW) with like 30 coins, and some are bashing it because they want to clone darksend.

After using it / cloning it they will shit on Evan for being a "scammer" or a "useless dev" due to the launch so that they can promote how they are better with Evan's code but without "his 2mn darks" (which is the narative propagated through out-of-context quotes). This is SCAM MENTALITY by useless parasites.


Well, maybe you are one of the parasite ? You are just forcing people to believe that you wont betray them as darkcoin has 50% control of the coin

Forcing?

Download the open source version without darksend and do your work without darksend. You have that option. You aren't forced to use the darksend-enabled binary.

3097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 25, 2014, 07:01:13 PM
I have a question about masternode voting I brought to IRC but it was not answered.

Evan is the best to address it.
3098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 25, 2014, 06:05:12 PM
Ouch. You must be holding a lot for defending this coin so eagerly.

You can't imagine.

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Everyone has the right for an opinion. Let them decide themselves.

http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQ#Was_Darkcoin_Instamined.3F
http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQ#I_read_somone_who_wrote_that_50.25_of_the_coins_in_circulation_are_owned_by_the_devs
3099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 25, 2014, 06:03:06 PM
Panic buying...

3100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: May 25, 2014, 05:35:00 PM
You seemed to forget that attacking users won't get your really far. So you are against the freedom of directly copying other sources ? Where do you live in ? You seemed to forget that even NXT is open source now and there were still no real copy of it. Its not always someone wants to steal your idea.

Yeah well DRK has a precedent (X11, DGW) with like 30 coins, and some are bashing it because they want to clone darksend.

After using it / cloning it they will shit on Evan for being a "scammer" or a "useless dev" due to the launch so that they can promote how they are better with Evan's code but without "his 2mn darks" (which is the narative propagated through out-of-context quotes). This is SCAM MENTALITY by useless parasites.
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