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Yeah, but there's two different things going on under the 'Ponzi' label atm.
There's the ones which are clearly stating they are a game based on the ponzi concept, i.e. the punter will be paid from new money coming in, there is no underlying business, and when new "investment" stops, that's it for you, winning or losing and the site owner makes a % fee.
That's a form of gambling, but with unknown, time related risk, and these schemes already (should) go in the Gambling section.
Then there's the ones which will swear black is white that they are cloud mining, arbitraging or whatever and they have discovered a way of doing it that enables them to return impossible ROI. These people will obviously not voluntarily put their schemes in a "Ponzi" category or the Gambling Section, because they deny that they are operating one.
It would be unrealistic to want or expect BCT to somehow vet, for example, a new cloud mining service and force it to go into a new Ponzi category or the Gambling section unless it met certain critireria.
In both cases people can lose their money, but only in the latter type are they being scammed, so really the separate Category would be a bit irrelevant.
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The average IQ of the people posting here is completely bewildering.
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No, but I also invested pretty big.
If it isn't yours, why do you care? It's so easy for them to pay it out if they own address, and they're just paying themselves. Could be their own address, but I dont think so... I just think, that they are not going to run soon, if they pay this big one. i dont think it's their own address, why would they when they have so many coins? and recently one member here got paid 40+ btc without any issue as well. i think it was 2 days ago so if they pay so many btc why they did not pay me back 90mill ttc? no answers on emails etc? they are total scam and will steal ppl money And TTC UP 40% in the last hour! Double disaster!! Or maybe it's the good people at Cryptobubble are buying the Titties to pay you back? |
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i know, was monitoring , another 1 hr 51 minutes for the 100btc payout.
Op has over 8k coins now, i don't think they're doing fake deposits. No reason for them to do so
100 btc 30k it's nothing see this hyip http://nanoindustryinv.com/?a=cust&page=last-depositsover 500k invested per day  Anybody here had a good experience with this site? How much can you earn? Is this thing 100% sure? i see is a british registered company, so i think is an safe site...they run from 6 mounth,minimum invest is 100$ I mean, anybody have some payment proofs? 'Cause this sounds more interesting than cryptodouble. I don't know why I'm bothering, seeing as you lemmings are in the mood to give your money to anyone who promises you da Moon, but if you spend five minutes searching NanooNanooInvestments you would find that 1) UK company registration means nothing 2) It's a mail box address 3) It's registered by an Australian whose home address is a Nando's 4) Same man has run ponzis before which have failed. |
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wow you obviously put some work and effort into that, I appreciate the time spent to try to prove somebody wrong but I have just one flaw with it, just one tiny little flaw. You failed to take into account that they "trade" across over 200+ cryptocurrencies, sell high and buy low across all platforms so for example if BTC is down (and it has been recently but it's recovering) then I assume they are compensating for their profit margin on other currencies. Why would you focus purely on BTC when I stated they trade across the other currencies? I would be interested for a similar demonstration including the other crypto's
Unless you're trolling me, I suggest that whoever gets to take you out for a walk should also take over management of your finances. Sorry to btcgnome and other victims of PB for going off topic and clogging up your echo chamber here. |
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So, after you got scammed by a ponzi, you invested in another ponzi?
How are they a ponzi when they buy low and sell high not just on BTC but across 200+ cryptocurrencies to ensure they get a profit but also ensure they fulfill the orders placed. I have not heard of ONE occurance yet where they have not delivered. Ponzi, I think you are mistaken. Glad to see you living up to your forum name. Are you allowed out on your own? Are you for real? Seriously? You felt compelled to reply to my post with that load of shit?? Please, please, PLEASE!!! next time you think of doing such a thing, just don't bother OK, really, just don't bother. It holds no weight, no discussion material, it's a poor statement and it contributes absolutely nothing at all to anybody. That was the TL:DR. The longer version goes like this: You are saying this is not a ponzi. You are saying that these Cryptobubble people really do have a secret trading operation which returns them profits, over and above the 100% interest that they pay every 100 hours for the money you send them? Ok, let's go with that for a minute. Unless they are a charity, they have to make a profit on top of what they pay out, let's say 25%, don't want to be greedy. So, their alchemy operation grosses them 125% return every 100 hours. Do you know what that means? That means if they started their magic trading system with, say, 1 BTC of their own and took no money at all from 'investors', (why should they?) after 100 hours they would have 1.25 BTC profit all to themselves, plus the original 1. At the beginning of the second 100 hour period they now have 2.25 BTC to work their magic with and they do, adding 125% profit on that (2.812 BTC) to their 2.25, thus starting the third 100 hour period with 5.062 BTC. With me so far? Ooooh look 1 2.25 2 5.06 3 11.39 4 25.63 5 57.67 6 129.75 7 291.93 8 656.84 9 1,477.89 10 3,325.26 11 7,481.83 12 16,834.11 13 37,876.75 14 85,222.69 15 191,751.06 16 431,439.88 17 970,739.74 18 2,184,164.41 19 4,914,369.92 20 11,057,332.32 21 24,878,996.72 There are only ever going to be 21,000,000 Bitcoin. After less than 21 x 100 hr periods, they would own them all, according to you. Another TL:DR If Cryptodonkey's secret trading scheme can pay 'investors' 100% per 100 hours and make a profit on top, if they had started with one bitcoin of their own instead and reinvested it, by about Easter they would have made a profit equivalent to all the BTC in the world. If they're not a Ponzi. How are they a ponzi....Ponzi, I think you are mistaken.
So, do you get out much? |
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With CryptoDouble I cleared all my losses from pbmining! Looks like this is the secret recovery program from pbmining  So, after you got scammed by a ponzi, you invested in another ponzi? How are they a ponzi when they buy low and sell high not just on BTC but across 200+ cryptocurrencies to ensure they get a profit but also ensure they fulfill the orders placed. I have not heard of ONE occurance yet where they have not delivered. Ponzi, I think you are mistaken. Glad to see you living up to your forum name. Are you allowed out on your own? |
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My pet conspiracy theory: cryptodouble to pump BTC
Then why are they accepting altcoins too? They want to pump every cryptocurrency? To build trust. People in the alt scene have less money, so they can start from lower, which means they can last longer and thus grow more confidence. Ah, they have competition there, and four hours quicker too lol. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917017.0Normally I wouldn't dream of linking crap like this, but seeing as the whole situation is ridiculous, I'll make an exception. Talk of doubling makes me think of fedor3327. All of you X2 fans might want to read this thread of his https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658125.0 |
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Any thoughts? I'll have about $1K US dollars pretty soon and am looking to put it towards btc in a meaning ful way. I love the game and want to actively be working with btc.
Lets say you purchased another limited supply commodity such as gold instead of btc. What would you do to "actively be working with your gold" ? You cant, or at least not in a way that is not extremely likely to generate losses. BTC is the investment, they are cheap now, just put them in a cold wallet. Absolutely +1 on this. The "investment" industry that has grown up around Bitcoin doesn't need BTCs per se, any currency will do, but it thrives on the mistaken belief that coins should somehow be 'working' to justify their possession, like buying real estate for price appreciation but also with a rental value. That is not the function of Bitcoin as I understand it, but it shows how unclear a lot of newcomers are about what to with it. They want it to ape fiat, Hodling is not enough for them and you can only buy so much coffee or Overstock sheets. Put this together with the libertarian dogma of greed is good and the relative lack of sophistication of many new, young 'investors' and you have the cesspit that currently masquerades as the "Bitcoin Investment Industry" aka Scammers Retirement Fund. |
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All the bets paid  Lol, a more accurate description than "investments". One more go for luck or is that it for you? |
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And this is the way Bitcoin died, a bunch of kids getting hard ons because some lowlife crim doubled their dust. |
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TL;DR You got scammed by PB and now you're actively promoting another scam to get your money back. That's nice. |
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ToastedJelly,
I deeply apologize for the delay on your prize.
These have been delayed for the simple fact is our prize guy has been on vacation for the last few weeks of the year.
We do expect him to return this week and all prizes won/owed should be shipped / paid out.
Jshock
Cryptsy Customer Service Manager
Unbelievable. They have a "prize guy". I see they are developing an escrow service. Before anyone uses it, I suggest they ask for the vacation dates of the "escrow guy". |
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So to earn a trust rating you have to have done trades with other members of the community? Is that what I am gathering from all of this?
No. The criteria for leaving trust are: Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade. Neutral - Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score. Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer. For the visible green/red trust summary over there <------ , it must be left by someone who is on either the default trust list or you have added to your trust list for you to see it. If I decided you were worth a trust rating and feedback for one of the above reasons, it wouldn't show in the summary to anyone who hadn't added me to their trusted list, but would be listed on your profile under "untrusted feedback". |
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Given.
what is your address? 1NaPF8YaDLh7iJ7gEMKkj8KD158kNL6pnP sent What credibility do you think anyone will give to feedback sent by that fucking idiot? |
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Your answer: "we cant say". It might as well be santaclaus then.
SantaClaus MiningLifetime contract Best mining hardware from secret Nazi research center. Our miners were sent to dark side of the moon (minus 153 °C) by cheapest Russian launchers. So only for bitcointalk members, here is our limited offer : 10 TH for only 1 BTC. Hourly payout. +1800% a year profit. For 24h only. Hurry Up ! I vouch for SantaClaus Mining as very dependable and honest operation. I invested 8 satoshis last Christmas in special invitation and have been paid regular every twelve minutes, now ROI'd 64 times and have 300 PH/s and my own hydropower plant. DO NOT LISTEN TO FUD from sick making so called scambusters who are all investors in GRINCH Mining cowboy ponzi scheme competition. I BELIEVE IN FATHER CHRISTMAS. |
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Seems der_troll gave Mabsark negative trust, and that der_troll is in the 2nd level of the default trust list. I can't seem to figure out why though. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=73449He has one trusted negative feedback (from Mabsark) and no untrusted feedback. Why is he in level 2? If you look at hierarchical view of trust, it appears that both der_troll and Mabsark are listed under CanaryInTheMine, who is level 1 default. |
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I have no horse in this race, but am actively looking for genuine opportunities to invest coin.
I have looked at many ventures asking for investment, from arbitrage to cloud mining and cannot believe how low the bar is set.
In the fiat world, these glossy, vague websites promising high ROI would be laughed at and discounted by anyone with a measure of good sense.
Some of these are on the level of Nigerian 419's and barely more sophisticated, but still seem to attract funds from similarly unsophisticated people.
Although 'innocent until proven guilty' is a valuable principle, this is not a court of law here. The trust system allows Mabsark and others to leave negative feedback based on their opinions and I don't agree that he and others are abusing it.
His critics say that he leaves negative feedback in order to make his own investments more attractive. Having read much of this, I personally think that is an excuse for people who play ponzis and see his actions as a threat to their 'game' to denigrate the value of his healthy skepticism.
Now it seems a trust war is beginning.
If that means confused newbies will research more before parting with coin, then that will be a positive side effect.
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