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3081  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: February 05, 2017, 02:11:20 AM
Just invest it. saving won't grow your money but investment can. And there is sure chance of getting better outcome,as bitcoin value is increasing by time. The past statistics says so.

in my country saving money in bank can get return, and competitif return too
iam saving money in bank can get return 8%/month  is very small,  if want big return money to use investment or busness
Are you for real? That was a big amount of interest, where are your bank getting the amount they pay to it's depositor? Comon man, don't say anything without any valid support, what is the name of your bank? it's very impossible that bank offers that kind of interest on deposit rates.
I'm sure if he is lying now. i don't find any bank which willing to pay their depositor with that high interest in monthly. Usually when you are investing your money in bank, the highest interest you will get only 2-3% annually in bank. 8% in a month is too crazy
3082  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]Ascendancy: Aplikasi Modul rangka kerja terdesentralisasi-IPO: 27 Jan 2017 on: February 05, 2017, 12:50:07 AM
fix scam, perlu di delete atau lock thread ini??
Jangan didelete thread ini, thread ini bisa dijadikan pembelajaran untuk project altcoin lainnya. Kalau dirasa tidak ada lagi hal penting yang bisa dibahas, sebaiknya dilock saja thread ini.

aneh banget akun kloningan nya dev si joel-jantsen red trust nya di remove,
yang kena banjir trust cuma akun ecek2 yang memakai nama ascedancy-team , enak banget lah

kampanyekan biar scamer ga muncul
jangan pernah beli ico coin dan jangan pernah berburu bounty nya, kalau koin ico tapi ga mau menggunakan escrow
Joel itu hanya sebagai manager IPO mereka, dia bilang belum dibayar 1 single penny pun sampai saat ini. Tapi kalau agan punya bukti yang cukup kuat kalau dia memang akun kloningan dari ASC, agan bisa post di thread ANN mereka.
3083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 05, 2017, 12:41:15 AM
In gambling we just know about two things
These are
Win or lose
But the question is when you do betting
You always lose
You do realize about it but why we still go through on betting place?!!!
Apologoze if my topic have already exist it just about my interesting about your opinion about my experiences
Because we are too curious and becomes addicted when we are losing, we want to recover what we lost earlier with another bigger deposit. After we recovered it all (when we lucky enough), we will think "Ah, i will gamble a little more to make some profit or for withdrawal fees, it is easy to make profit with this big bankroll", then shit happens, we lose all our money what we won earlier. Then we are re-depositing again...
3084  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah faucet membuang waktu? on: February 04, 2017, 11:31:28 PM
Minta pendapatnya nih guys sebagai newbie, banyak orang luar yang mengatakan "Dont wasting your time in faucet" atau "Faucet wasting your time!" dan sebagainya.

Menurut kalian apakah benar itu membuang-buang waktu? Terus bagaimana cara "Earning" bitcoin dengan mudah dan tidak membuang-buang waktu ya?


makasih  Grin
Faucet benar-benar hanya membuang waktu kita, memangnya agan mau claim 200 satoshis setiap jamnya terus gantian ke site yang lain? hitungan kasarnya, kalau agan ada 10 situs faucet berbeda yang membayar 200 satoshi setiap jamnya, jadi setiap 1 jam, agan dapat 2000 satoshi (10 situs*200 satoshi). Kalau agan sehari online 10 jam, maka dapat 20000 satoshi, kalau sebulan dapat 20000*30=600000 satosh atau 0.006 BTC selama SEBULAN.
0.006 btc kalau dirupiahkan sekitar 78ribu IDR (kurs btc 13jtaan).
Tidak cara earning dengan mudah, semua butuh kerja keras danharus tekun.
3085  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to be a signature campaign manager? on: February 04, 2017, 11:25:40 PM
This is not entirely true. Some of them do not get paid along with the other campaigner I think.
Look at your campaign manager. When he was hired he had the campaign's signature and was on the spreadsheet. Now he is not wearing it and had -36 posts on his slot from the last payment screen.
So does this mean he gets paid not from the escrowed amount designated for the campaigners? Or he just takes his cut from it? Not all this is clear to the rest of the people who are part of each of these campaigns.
Actually that is already clear about him (Boxxob) if you are looking on their spreadsheet.
According spreadsheet, On 7th week, Boxxob still wear Bitdice's signature and got paid 0.086 btc with 24 qualified posts (0.0015 btc*24 posts=0.036 btc + 0.05 btc (as manager) =0.086 btc). Then, i think he decided to remove their signature and only focus with managing the campaign, so he just got paid 0.05 btc weekly from 8th week until now
3086  Other / Archival / Re: BitFortune.io – brand new bitcoin casino | Anonymous | Secure | Fresh on: February 04, 2017, 09:39:09 AM

Actually I was referring to free spins without deposit if it is exist on this site. Regarding free spins with deposit, I'm not a players who like to take any deposit bonuses as it will only make me lose all my deposit unless I have so great luck.
Btw, 50x rollover is so high compared to other casinos because most casinos only use standard rollover requirement between 40x or less.
Oh, i did not know too how to get free spins without by deposit first. But,are you already signed up? Just looking some user on above, they just signed up and got 10 free spins without deposit from OP.
OP, is this free spins also eligible for another user who just signed up and post their comment on this thread?
3087  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: February 04, 2017, 09:22:40 AM
Wow 300 btc? Really? He won 300 btc just from a dice game? This is unbelievable.
Some people will think it's a stupid thing to place some big amount money in dice game. But look, he won a great big one amount. Congratulations

300btc win might be big in the new bitdice, however its not really big if we talk about wins from all bitcoin dice sites such as betking and primedice, IIRC Hufflepuff won around 2,000BTC a year or so ago and in betking you would see bets like 50btc or more and winning xxx amount at the end of the run. Smiley

Congrats wonton22 Smiley
Hufflepuff was not a winner, he is a cheater who takes advantage to exploited Primedice's bug. He did that not in a year ago, but on November 2014(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843892.0) calculate yourself how many years ago that.
Doctor was won around 500BTC in Bitdice (More than this winning) on 2 years ago or so.
3088  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]Ascendancy: Aplikasi Modul rangka kerja terdesentralisasi-IPO: 27 Jan 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 03:42:23 AM
fuck 75 btc di bawa kabur sedangkan di escrow cuma ada 7 btc :v , ohh shitcoin lagi mane ane invest -_- di tambah udah susah2 buat video baru mau upload
Fuck
Makin menjadi saja IPO alt coin scam yang bermunculan, orang-orang pada mau kaya dengan cepat pakai cara instant dengan menipu orang lain. Mereka cuman taruh 7 btc sedangkan mereka kabur dengan 75 btc, mereka masih untung 68 btc atau hampir 10x lipat dari jumlah uang yang mereka korbankan. Takutnya kalau begini terus, project altcoin yang bagus malah sepi peminat untuk kedepannya, jadi altcoin yang ada cuman itu-itu saja
3089  Other / Archival / Re: BitFortune.io – brand new bitcoin casino | Anonymous | Secure | Fresh on: February 04, 2017, 02:39:27 AM
Nice to see new gambling site here, but just like others people said, need faucet or some satoshi promote to try your site.
And something like signature campaign social media campaign is absolutely needed (of course with trusted escrow since you're still newbie here) to promote your site and get many more gambler.

Why we still need free satoshi or faucet instead we can get 10 free spins as OP said? This is a casino, not a dice site.

Please, create a new account and keep your personal url in secret! #DO_NOT_SHARE it!
This reminds me with satoshimine, which we should not share our personal url link too.


How to get this free spins? Is it automatically credited to our account when visit your site through this link?
I'm interested to try it before making any deposits, and how about the wagering requirement of bonuses on your site?
By deposit atleast 0.01 btc as stated on their FAQ. This is about how much you should wagered
Quote
When can I withdraw my money after I received my bonuses?
Before you can withdraw, you must complete a wagering requirement. You must make bets for the amount 50 times the amount of the bonus received: (deposit bonus + winnings from free spins) × 50.
3090  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Diskusi proyek scam !! on: February 04, 2017, 02:16:41 AM
Ga di sangka kalau proyek Ascendancy bakalan scam kalau di lihat dari thread dan timnnya ternyata scam juga
OP sudah kena neg trust oleh beberapa DT member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749935.0
wan apa bener tu gan ..
ane lihat ASC udah ngumpulin 74,7 btc katanya
ane baru aja mau submit artikel yang ane buat

ane jg ada info tentang taskie ni , kayaknya taskie bakalan scam dah , kalau pun gk scam pasti prosesnya bakalan lama kayak yang sudah ada
alasannya waktu pelaksanaan mereka yang berubah" gk jelas
Iya, ASC sudah dilabel 100% sebagai project scam dari DT member. Lihat saja trust dari dev mereka. Sangat disayangkan karena ada lagi project scam, saat ini dana yang ada di esrow hanya sebesar 7 btc, dan para esrow juga masih mendiskusikan bagaimana enaknya dana 7 btc ini digunakan, apakah dikembalikan ke para investor sebesar % dari total invest mereka? Ini masih didiskusikan.
Untuk Taskie, saya rasa gak mungkin scam karena mereka sudah menaruh btc yang cukup besar di escrow untuk IPO mereka (ada 100BTC). Yahoo , sebagai salah satu escrow juga sudah mengkonfirmasi hal ini
We are escrows for TASKIE. I personally am holding 100btc worth of TASKIE for the team. And the money is directly going to escrows when that project reopens. If the money isnt going to escrows directly i will not be participating in that project.

I will not be a part of this setup again
3091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [IPO LIVE] Ascendancy:Modular Decentralized App Framework IPO ENDS:10 March 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 02:06:59 AM
Thanks, I just view Lauda's profile, not a staff any more, what is wrong?? Huh  He was staff&mod days ago, but why he resigned or quited the position?
Please stay on topic, that question should not be asked on here and discuss any longer. If you want to know what happened and what's the reason behind that, just check their trust rating or in meta section.
So sad to know another ICO went scam again after Opair, Declouds, and Ebitz.

3092  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tanya Jawab Seputar Forum Disini/Ask about this forum here! on: February 03, 2017, 09:08:34 AM
gan ane mau nanya.
untuk keterima signature campaign, apa ane harus rajin ngeposting diluar thread Off-Topic dan lokal??

Gampang sih liat saja akun temen lain disini siapa saja yang pakai signature di akunnya lalu cek posting nya gimana pasti kamu jadi tau
biar kamu tau masing-masing campaign punya kreteria masing-masing biar bisa di terima yang mudah itu cmapiagn altcoin biasanya boleh posting di semua thread.
Gak semua thread diperbolehkan juga meskipun kita ikut altcoin campaign, ada bagian tertentu yang memang seharusnya jangan sering-sering post disitu, misalnya bagian Off topic, politic and society,Archival, dan Games and rounds. Kalau sebagian besar postingan besar kita ada disana, jangan berharap bisa diterima di campaign. Jangan terlalu seringjuga posting di lokal, karena biasanya campaign yang bagus gak maunerima orang dengan banyak postingan lokal
3093  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Diskusi proyek scam !! on: February 03, 2017, 05:39:56 AM

Saya dukung  Cheesy

BTW, saya termasuk korban ICO XLTH, untungnya saya cuma investasi sedikit (sekitar 5 dollar), mau komplain juga kemana (dulu belum bikin account bitcointalk).


Saya tau rasaya begitu gan, invest kita kena scam.
Tetapi kalau agan termasuk salah satu korban dari XLTH, kenapa agan bisa invest ke mereka sebelum agan belum buat akun di forum ini? Apa dulu agan hanya baca-baca kemudian tertarik untuk invest di mereka? Atau teman agan yang nyaranin agan untuk invest dengan mereka?
3094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which dice site to use for huge bet? (100BTC+) on: February 03, 2017, 01:31:50 AM
Hey.

So I want to bet 105 BTC to end up with 130 BTC, which would be a 1,24x multiplier. I love PrimeDice, but sadly their maximum payout is 50 BTC.
I think SatoshiDice would accept that much, but I just read that apparently they are a scam site now? What?
So my question is. What site would accept this large bet, that will actually pay me out?
SatoshiDice isn't reliable that's for sure, I wouldn't be throwing anything that big in a site like that.
Justdice clam's is an issue, even if you try it there the risk of the coin is bigger than the multiplier lol
Maybe PD and on 2 rolls?

Note: Don't do it! I seen plenty of x1.25 and it wasn't pretty mostly.
Look at this, there was a guy who betting on Primedice at 1.25x. What an easy money, isn't it? (But too bad he is on negative now)
blablalbla solid bets 40btc amazing guy.. max bet keep it up all go max 50btc  Wink


What do you mean justdice clam's is an issue? About clam's rate is not too bad, their rate is stable right now, You can cash out immediately your clam and exchange it to BTC on poloniex when you done with it.
3095  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Cara memperoleh bitcoin di bitcointalk on: February 02, 2017, 08:51:27 AM
setau ane sih klo dari bitcointalk itu cuman dari signature campaign dan ngejual akun bitcointalk ente

kalau ikut Signature Campaign minimal harus JrMember ya gan, apa newbie bisa ikut
Iya gan, ane nunggu jadi Jr Member dulu untuk join sigcamp, dari pada kena red trust
kalau akun newbie, kata kawan ane gitu. Apa cuma diforum ini yang ada di bagi2 bitcoin ya teman2 ?

cuman forum ini saya kira, ada bitcoingarden cuman di sana bagi2 giftway aja coin2 yg baru2 biasanya
dlu saya berburu di sana tpi skrang sudah gk lagi

Hebat dong kalau gitu forum ini, terus yang jadi pengelola atau admin di forum
bitcointalk ini siapa gan ?
Sepertinya pengelola atau admin forum bitcointalk ini gak ada gan, yang ada hanya beberapa
Moderator yang menjaga atau mengelola Thread nya masing-masing.
Agan sudah berapa lama disini? Kalau akun agan sudah full member seharusna agan sudah lebih dari 4,5 bulan disini, Kalau sudah selama itu, agak mustahil rasanya kalau agan belum tau tentang ini.
Admin di forum ini ada 3, Theymos, Badbear, dan Cyrus. Cyrus baru diangkat menjadi salah satu admin disini dari jabatan sebelumnya, yaitu Global Moderator. Tetapi pemilik/founder dari forum ini bukanlah mereka, tetapi Sirius (Kalau gak salah namanya itu).
3096  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: February 02, 2017, 06:36:09 AM
what's the latest from this freebitcoin.com
Could you explain more what do you mean "Latest from freebitcoin.com"? (It is not freebitcoin.com, but freebitco.in). Is lastest winner on their lottery? or is lastest how much their faucet amount? Which one?
3097  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Signature Campaign | Last Update : 31 Januari 2017 on: February 02, 2017, 01:22:50 AM

info terbaru gan ada Signature campaign dari DuckDice.io lumayan bayaran nya dan rule nya gak terlalu susah untuk ratenya  langsung aja ke Tread nya https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1774477.0

meski rate nya cukup tinggi dan lumayan tapi kalau dari rule nya signature campaign ini ga berjalan lama
alias bisa di stop kapan saja, seminggu atau 2 minggu juga bisa di stop

"We reserve the right to discontinue this campaign at any time, but we commit to make all necessary payments"
Pelaksanaan signature campaign mereka terlalu terburu-buru. Belum ada spreadsheet yang menunjukkan siapa-siapa saja yang diterima, dan juga manager campaign mereka juga belum aktif. Site mereka juga masih tergolong sangat baru di dunia judi, baru jalan sekitar 3 bulan, sepertinya campaign mereka tidak akan berjalan lama ditambah dengan bayaran yang tinggi kemudian ada rules yang diatas itu.
3098  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Signature Campaign | Last Update : 31 Januari 2017 on: February 01, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
Manajer Qtum mendapat teguran dari pihak bitcointalk, di karenakan banyaknya orang yang melakukan spam, dan semenjak terguran tersebut datang, manajer mulai lebih teliti dalam menilai post yang sah atau tidak.
Ia saya baca di thread Qtum signature campaign bagian depannya, itu mungkin salah satu sebab kenapa akhirnya managernya menghitung postnya setiap minggu tidak lagi perhari,...
Bukan karena itu alasannya manager tidak menghitung postingan dalam perhari lagi, tetapi ini alasannya
About the daily post count instead of counting it daily I will do it weekly. Because some of the post has been delete by the moderators.

Best regards
Yang dengan kata lain si blackmamba cuman mau ngitung postingan dalam seminggu untuk menghindari terjadinya kesalahan hitung dikarenakan ada beberapa post dari peserta yang didelete oleh moderator, ehingga dikhawatirkan akan menimbulkan kesalahan pembayaran.


kasus signature campaign dapat perigatan keras dari moderator sudah pernah terjadi, tapi bukan di baned, hanya di suruh berbenah , yaitu fortune jack, dan menyuruh membuat signature campaign baru, dengan aturan posting baru juga
Bisa tunjukkan ke saya kapan dan siapa yang menyuruh fortunejack untuk membuat thread campaign baru dan aturan yang baru?
Setau saya itu murni dilakukan oleh pihak fortunejack sendiri setelah ditemukannya orang yang mengendalikan 10 akun di fortunejack dan untuk aturan barunya (min 15 post di gambling dari 25 post) itu atas saran dari user-user lain.
3099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: February 01, 2017, 01:18:39 AM
I easily believe the tricks that are shared to a website, group or forum and I spend a lot of money to try these tricks and don't get profit
Don't be easily believe with those lying and fake "tricks". There is none "tricks" will working in gambling, if they are really found that, they won't selling it to other people, they will use it for themselves and become rich men. And then, don't be easily believe with any bots in youtube, because they could stealing your money (except seunjti's bot)
3100  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Signature Campaign | Last Update : 31 Januari 2017 on: January 31, 2017, 10:37:15 PM
Signature camapign baru purevidz, ratenya cukup bagus tapi perhitungannya perbulan kalau tidak salah dan untuk full member ke bawah pembayaran setengah BTC setengah lagi coin purevidz, ini linkny semoga bermanfaat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1771609.0

ratenya terlalu kecil kecil keknya soalnya itu minimal post 60x perbulan dan menurut ane itu mah terlalu kecil dibandingkan dengan signature lain yang bayarannya perbulan juga tuh
Hampir sama ratenya dengan rollin.io kalau ane lihat-lihat. Udahlah bayarannya kecil, banyak sekali pula aturannya, gak boleh post di lokal, gambling discussion, dan lain lain. Ane tebak bakalan sepi peminat bagi campaign ini, kecuali kalau mereka mau naikkin rate seperti yang qtum lakukan

benar banget seperti rollin.io, tapi anehnya rollin.io, meski bayaran nya kecil aturan nya super ketat, dan di bayar pun tiap bulan bukan per minggu, tapi peminat nya kok banyak ya, setiap ada yang di kick dari campaign nya(di kick artinya tidak di bayar setelah berlelah2 hampir 1bulan) selalu banyak peminat nya yang mau ngisi slot yang kosong
sebenarnya sih aturannya kaya di campaign yang berbasis english semua, dan bayarannya terbilang cukup standar
apalagi dia selain ngepost ada dari avatar buat nambah lebih. daripada tidak dapat signcamp sama sekali mending ambil rollin.io menurut saya daripada dibawah dari rollin
Kalau menurut saya rate mereka sangatlah kecil, tetapi masih lebih kecil di secondstrade.
Bukannya daripada tidak dapat signcamp gan, perlu diingat jika tidak semua orang bisa masuk ke rollin.io meskipun rate nya kecil karna manager mereka juga ketat,bahkan sampai sekarang tidak ada 1 komplain pun dari moderator untuk anggota yang gabung di rollin tentang spam. Manager mereka pun mendapat positif trust dari global moderator karena bisa menghandle camp dengan sangat baik.
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